larry: all right. save america, passes the bill. we may be closer than you think to solving the debt ceiling. buy the stock market back and, for heaven sakes, watch lizzie macdonald. very important. elizabeth: you're best, larry. thank you so much. i appreciate you. that was a great show, thank you. breaking news, house oversight chairman james comer says he will hold fbi director christopher wray in contempt of congress if chris -- christopher

wray does not turn over the document that an fbi whistleblower says details president biden's alleged involvement in a bribery scheme with a foreign national. we're going to the talk to chairman comer in just a second. we've got in this to deal with first, this is going to happen in less than an hour elon musk sits down with florida governor ron desantis to talk about his 2024 run for the white house, and now elon musk says he is open to sitting down with former president trump, rfk jr. and president biden on twitter. let's bring back to the show 2024 candidate vivek ramaswamy and marc lotter. vivek, democrats, the media, they're in an uproar over desantis bypassing the media to go on twitter. but we had the view, msnbc, jen psaki downplaying this, but twitter has nearly 397 million followers. do you think this is a good or bad thing, that desantis is going on twitter?

>> i think it's great. i think we need more open dialogue in the country. i do think that it's the interesting that the host who's moderating the debate or the discussion between him and elon is david sacks, one of his own donors, but i think we actually need more open discourse in the country that disintermediates traditional media, goes to the people directly. that's a big part of how we've been running in this campaign as well. i think it breeds strength, and i hope that that helps this campaign, entire 2024 cycle be about the what and the why. what do the we stand for and why do we stand for it rather than personal attacks based on the who. i think that'll make our party and country better off. elizabeth: what vivek just said, marc, desantis the has been battling the media and democrats twist thing his policies on the pandemic, on, you know, what he's doing with education in florida, and he's -- it looks like he's got upwards of a $200 million voter outreach push, $100 million to start with, 2600 workers to knock on every door at least four times in new

hampshire, nevada and south carolina, five times in iowa. so, you know, he's got a lot of firepower here. is it going to work with desantis going, you know, around the media to get his message out? >> well, and that's the best way, and that's really how many republicans have to run these days because you can't count on getting a fair shake from the mainstream media. this is very innovative in terms of his announcement, but in terms of his ground game that's how primaries are won. you have to be organized on the ground in iowa, in new hampshire, in the early states. and so since he has such a huge war chest, it's good to see him actually doing those things. too many candidates just rely on attacks and thinking if i just attack the my opponent when actually it's getting people to the polls, to the caucus sites. that's how you win primaries and caucuses. elizabeth: yeah, so what marc just said. we also have this, vivek. former president trump is opening up a string of attacks hammering desantis on social

media. are you thinking they could bloody each other so badly they leave each other damaged, or will voters just say, ah, this is just politics. >> i think that's exactly what this race is on track to do it's part of why i was called into this race. i think this needs to be about what we stand for as a movement, what does it mean to be american. to put america first. we need to rediscover what america is, and we're not going to get there with two people boasting about their own accomplishments and attacking the other guy. this needs to be about the country and the people who are actually running to represent. and i also think that though i communicate plenty via twitter, i think it's actually very important to go to left-wing media as well to be able to say that if i'm going to the sit across the table from xi jinping, i better be willing to sit across the table from media that's hostile to me or other republican candidates on the debate stage. too long as a party we have been running from something. we've got to start running to to

something. our vision of what it means to be american: that's why i'm in this race and, frankly, that's our bet for why we're going to succeed over the course of the next year. this isn't about me, trump or desantis, it's about the people of this country, it's about what america actually stands for. that's why i'm in this race -- elizabeth: so, vivek, marc, hang on just one second. vivek, we've seen you go on cnn, msnbc, we think you've been to -- on there too, where you've been hammered and pounded by the anchors. do you think it's working because, you know, is it getting your message out? because we've seen anchors twist your policies and what you stand for. >> they will certainly twist and lie and deceive. that's okay. it's the playing field that's not even, we still show up. and i'm not just doing that on media, i went to the south side of chicago last week, all black community, not exactly a place where traditional republican politicians go. i go to college campuses. i think it's a winning strategy for us, because the facts are on

our side, the logic and arguments are on our side. we need to show up and actually deliver that message especially to younger americans who are hungry for purpose. hungry for meaning and direction. and the more we're providing it, the more successful we're going to be. i think we can win in a land are slide election next year like reagan did in 1980. i'm running in this race to the actually deliver it. and like most things, we're still very early. elizabeth: so, marc lotter, we've got the judge and the manhattan d.a.'s business records case, it's a civil case, it should be a misdemeanor with a penalty. he ramped it up to a criminal case. that hearing's going to come, coming up pretty quickly in the middle -- rather, let me back up. it's going to to come up during the republican primaries, the hearingings for this. how are these probes going to the hit trump in the race? we've got trump sending a letter to attorney general merrick garland asking for a meeting,

saying the special counsel, jack smith, unfairly mistreating the former president in the classified documents probe. how's that going to hurt trump or affect trump in the races? >> welsh you know, i think one thing donald trump has shown since 2015, 2016 is everything that you think you know about politics, throw the book right out the door because, you know, once he got indicted, his popularity increased. he doubled his lead in the republican primary field. so literally, if he's spending his days in a missouri courtroom and his evenings -- in a new york courtroom and his evenings on twitter or truth social or on it's the talking about how i'd love on in super tiewz straits or wherever he may be but i can't be, that's just going to fire up base that knows that every single day liberal media and the radical democrats are targeting this man, and he will use that to his advantage. we've already seen him do it in the primary process. we'll see him do it again -- from the indictment, we'll see him dow do that right through

the trial. elizabeth: vivek, now we've got governor desantis targeted over, you know, his night with disney, over disney -- his fight with disney, disney officials opposing, excuse me, the former -- excuse me, governor desantis' position on education policies many florida. and then you have senator rick scott issuing a travel advisory for socialists to florida, warning florida is openly hostile to socialists. vivek, this is after the naacp's own travel warning saying black americans shouldn't go to florida. and the chair of the n a aacp lives in panel that -- tampa and, you know, thousands of black-owned immigrants, black -- black-owned businesses, black immigrants, that population more than six other states combined. you see the attacks pointing now at desantis. >> yeah, look, i think these are two very different sets of attacks. on clear, i think it is downright wrong to use the power of the police state to arrest one's political opponents. whether you're democrat or

republican,s that is chilling. that is wrong, and i've said if i'm elected president, i would pardon if trump. not just trump, but anyone who is a victim of a politically motivated persecution through prosecution. the rest of it gets back to what all of us face. liz, i've faced a lot of this. look at the way the media covers ron desantis, the new yorker writes about me. on that level i say if you can't handle the heat, you stay out of the kitchen. i'm in this because i can handle the heat. i think we win based on our arguments, based on facts, and so uma big believer, i preach about the end of victimhood culture in america. mostly i'm preaching to the left, but i like to the practice what we preach too. hardship isn't victimhood, that teaches us who we are. elizabeth: which party is more united? rfk jr.'s polling up to 20% among democrats, splitting the democrat party. hillary clinton just said president biden's age is a legitimate issue. marc, let's get you to watch this. watch president biden here. >> nancy leading the way, you

never had to worry about whether the bill would pass. she said she had votes, she had the votes every time. [cheers and applause] she had the votes so many life-changing pieces of legislation. helped rescue the party in the great compression. elizabeth: the president said nancy pelosi helped us get out of the great depression which occurred in the '30s. biden is an unpopular incumbent. a majority of democrats say they don't want him to run again. your final word, marc. >> it's not because of his age, it's not because of his blunders, it's because of his policy failures. and that is opening door for rfk jr. and i think to others, possibly a gavin newsom. if they're going to do it, they've gotted to do it now. this president is weakened not because of his age or his stumbles, just because how bad he is. and so if they're going to do it, heavy got to do it now. it's the only chance they've got to take him out.

elizabeth: thank you both so much. now with the news coming in, house oversight chair james comer. congressman, so you are going to hold fbi director wray in contempt of congress if he refuses to produce the fbi document you subpoenaed alleginn fbi whistleblower says president biden engaged in an illegal bribery scheme with a foreign national? what more can you tell us about this? >> well, you're correct, liz. we're very concerned about this allegation and very frustrate that the fbi has been stonewalling us. this is a very serious accusation. this accusation fits a pattern that we uncovered especially in romania where then-vice president biden visits the country, talks about foreign policy and foreign aid and hen two weeks later his family starts getting bank wires from foreign nationals in this country to the different biden family members. so what this allegation says is

that joe biden did this exact same thing in another country, and pretty clearly details exactly how the payments were made. so we want to know not just what the form 102 the 3 says -- 1023 says, but what exactly the fbi did to investigate this very serious allegation. elizabeth: chairman comer, what does the if fbi whistleblower say9 that the fbi form contains? what are the details about it? what do we know? >> well, basically what you just reported, the that when joe biden was vice president, he was involved in a pay for play scheme with a foreign country pertaining to foreign aid and foreign policy. again, this fits a pattern that we're seeing with countries all over the world where when joe biden was at the end of his vice presidency, he traveled to different countries, in some instances took family members and met with former associates of his son.

and then soon afterwards, payments started flowing into different shell companies that would then flow down to different biden family members. i mean, this is one of the most serious charges, accusations that's ever been made against any public official in the history of the united states. and the fact that the fbi just keeps brushing us off and saying, oh, just trust us, i mean, it's not going to cut it. so we've a had to to go to extreme measures. i already subpoenaed director wray for this information, and they turned their nose up there. so now we're going to the next step. elizabeth: so what is your reaction to irs commissioner danny werfel sending a letter to house ways and means saying it wasn't the irs, it was biden's justice department who retaliated against an irs whistleblower? the doj removed the entire team probing hunter biden. now we've got two urs whistleblowers -- irs whistle whistleblowers saying the biden administration is stonewalling in potential criminal charges against hunter biden. >> we're starting to have the

good quality career employees at department the of justice, at the irs and at the fbi come forward and say, look, this is bad, what's taken place. we don't support it. there's been ab an active cover-up for many years, and we're hot going to take it anymore. we're going to to stand up and do the right thing, and we're going to talk to congressional investigators, and we're going to shine a light on this wrongdoing. i think that what we're seeing play out is a very positive development, the it's a positive development for transparency, it's a positive development in my quest to squash public corruption. so i'm excited about all the new whistleblowers that are coming forward, and i applaud the irs for quickly laying blame where it should be, and that is with the department of justice. elizabeth: the washington examiner's byron york points this out, democrats in the first trump impeachment said whistleblowers must be protected, but now they're silent when whistleblowers in the government are talking about what's going on with president biden and hunter biden.

what did the grandchildren of joe biden manufacture or make that warranted them getting paid by foreign overseas players who are working with the biden family on business deals? what were they doing? >> the same thing that the in-laws were doing, the same thing that the nieces and nephews were doing, and that's absolutely nothing. so no rational american thinks that it's, that there's nothing to see here when you see the fact that biden family members were receiving money -- elizabeth: $10 million, right? >> $10 million and we're just getting started. it'll be more than that. but, yeah, right now we've produced $10 million. maine elizabeth and you're finding 20 shell companies, off-balance sheet llcs, stuff like that that they set up, that web, which which delaware is famous for -- known for being famous to launch. sources that we audiocassette to in d.c. and former fbi officials, they don't like what's going on. they feel like the upper echelon

of the fbi should be gone because of this politicization. >> that's right. elizabeth: and when you look at the history of what's went on, president biden was the chair of foreign relations, he was reportedly a negative net worth, you know, in the early 2000s. the obama, you know, campaign said we don't want him on the campaign trail, he makes too many mistakes, so they pushed him aside, and then you could see the psychology of it. he says, you know what? i'm just going to make money. that's what some fbi officials have talked to us about. so, you know -- former fbi officials, we should i say. so there's a psychology here. and when you look at it as a whole in context, it kind of falls into place. >> it does. and i've always felt like you go back to 2015 is and 2016 when then-vice president biden set up his family to profit from influence peddling, at that point his political career was more than likely over, so he was trying to make money. and, unfortunately, he did it while he was in office, and he did it in a a way through those shell companies that's very

illegal. elizabeth: chairman comer, thanks for bringing that news to us. okay, we're staying on this news as well, a house hearing erupts. the white house doesn't does an end run around congress, forcing everyone -- middle class, the poor -- to the buy new green energy i appliances. and energy department officials call out as cowards for boycotting this hearing. and who is winning, who's losing in the debt ceiling battle and what the president will veto in this debt ceiling battle. and a war of words over the border collapse, who won that fight? voters who were ininjured and sick isenned by can covid vaccines sue president biden, white house officials. we're going to explain why. and we've got this growing backlash nationwide to get rid of social justice dei programs in colleges, schools and businesses. do they have the constitutional fight? experts say, yeah, this is unconstitutional, indoctrinated, compelled speech. tonight, congressman greg

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elizabeth: okay, stocks ending in the red. market jitters over debt ceiling fight. we had white house press secretary kjp, the far left, they're attacking house gop negotiators. they're threatening riots can chaos in the streets. the house gop just wants to cap spending at 2022 levels. that's more than 20% higher since the pandemic. but market talk is growing worldwide that the u.s. government overspending is now risking the global dominance of the u.s. dollar. we've got edward lawrence at the white house with with the story. >> reporter: yeah. and throw into the mix that policymakers and critics are concerned about china undermining the u.s., special specifically the u.s. dollar. and one glaring example of that is the agreement that brazil's president signed with the chinese to move away from the u.s. dollar for raid thing of goods between those two -- trading of goods between those

two countries. president biden and president lula did not have an official meeting at g7 last week, they were in joint meetings, but president biden never brought up the agreement with china. treasury secretary janet yellen also met with her brazilian counterpart this month but never mentioned it, instead highlighting the $1.5 billion the u.s. is giving to brazil for climate goals. republicans say the president's climate policies only further enrich china as it undermines the u.s. which republicans want to stop. >> the commerce department, treasury and the dok to coordinate mate across the -- dod to to coordinate across the various lists that we have, these various sanctions lists so that there is a coordinated strategy by the u.s. government to prevent these capital flows from fueling the rise of china. >> reporter: economic experts say that the u.s.' current fiscal policy increases the risk for the u.s.' stature around the globe. minneapolis federal reserve

president neel kashkari believes fiscal policy is unsustainable. >> we always have clinical challenges here at home. if i compare our challenges to those of other major economies, especially europe or china, i think we're in a very strong -- we have very strong things going for us. we need to deal with some of the near term challenges that we have, we need to get our fiscal house in order, but these are things that are within our control to address, and i'm cautiously optimistic we will address them. >> reporter: so in the share of the global market that is using the u.s. dollar has now decreased by 20% over the last 20 years. liz? elizabeth: edward lawrence, hang for that news. that's good information, thank you. joining us now from house ways and means, congressman greg steube. congressman, good to see you again. so you heard edward lawrence's report. the u.s. dollar is an issue right now. but the white house says they want to keep biden's student loan forgiveness plan, that they would threaten any house gop ban on that, and the supreme court has been taking on that fight. plus, the hill is reporting

house democrats are furious the president isn't pushing harder for tax hikes on the wealthy. do they get the bigger picture about the u.s. dollar. >> no, they absolutely don't. that's why we've gotten where we were. four years since i've been in congress with nancy pelosi at the helm where we spend and spend and spend is and that's their plan. they don't want to cut any spending, they don't want to have work requirements for those on welfare programs, and that's a sticking point for republicans, obviously, that feel like we need to get our fiscal house in order. we've already passed a bill right here in the house of representatives, sent a bill to the senate. we've cone our job and now we're waiting for the white house to come to the negotiating table and actually come to us with some real issues that we can negotiate on. elizabeth: and, you know, congressman, polls show voters are siding with the gop. they're basically saying it's not maga, it's not extreme to bring spending levels back to 20 to 22. that was up 21% since the pandemic. okay, let's watch this, what cnn is reporting about a poll

showing voters do want spending cuts. watch this. >> our brand new poll conducted by ssrs showed that a majority of americans, 6 in 10 americans, want to raise debt ceiling only if spending cuts are included as well. so this is the mccarthy point that he's been making all along. remember, months ago the white house was in this position of no negotiations. a majority of americans say, no, you should reduce spending as well as raise the debt ceiling. elizabeth: okay. here's the thing, congressman, the odds of a recession over the next 12 months, 99%. ten straight fed rate hikes to stop inflation from government overspending two. -thirds of the american population thinks we're on the wrong track. >> and that's shocking to see even interviewers are saying over 60% support the very plan that we passed in this house to to reduce the deficit, to cut spending. when i first got elected to congress five short years ago, the deficit was $21 trillion,

it's now $31 trillion. we've put over $10 trillion just many five short years on the deficit. we have to get spending under control. that's what the republicans in the house are trying to do, and the white house is stopping us in order to do that. elizabeth: listen, the imf chair says the u.s. dollar will not lose its global reserve status, our capital markets are too vast and liquid and deep and transparent. but, you know, it is, it's disunthing to see it weakened and not used -- disturbing to the see it weakened. the weak border security under this white house, now the debt ceiling bill. congressman, we want your reaction to this fight between congressman jim jordan and pramila jayapal and also watch arizona senator kyrsten sinema go after the president on the border collapse. watch. >> fear mongering about the border, let me be clear, empowers the smugglers and cartels when our republican colleagues claim that the border is open. >> ranking member started her statement by saying the border is secure.

really? more than 5.5, million illegal aliens have been encountered since joe biden took office. 2 million of these illegal aliens have been released into american communities, and more than 1.5 million known illegal gotaways have successfully crossed the southwest border undetect the #. these include criminal gang members, drug dealers and individuals on the terrorist watch list. has not a secure border. >> this, again, notes the fact that the administration was not prepared for the end of title 42, and we as congress must take action to change the asylum system in our country to stop it from exploitation by international criminal cartels like sinaloa. elizabeth: what do you think, congressman? >> even democrats now are recognizing the crisis at the southern border, completely created by this biden administration. over 5 million illegals have come in since he's been president, and republicans are passed a bill to stop that very thing. elizabeth: congressman steube, come back soon.

>> thank you. elizabeth: the backlash is growing nationwide to get rid of social justice dei programs in colleges, schools and businesses. people say it's the unconstitutional that this is indoctrinated, compelled speech. plus, we've got the house hearing erupting over the white house forcing you to pay more for its green energy push. energy department officials boycotted the hearing. they're doing an end run, the white house, around congress on this. you want the hear this on "the evening edit" next. ♪

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elizabeth: okay, there were fireworks odd to at that house oversight hearing on the white house push to ban appliances they say are not green enough, limiting consumer choice. this is an end run around congress. how come congress doesn't have any say in this? grady trimble is live on capitol hill with the story. grady. >> reporter: hey, liz are. officials with the department of energy were invited to the odd the's gas stove hearing --

today's gas stove hearing, but they chose not to the attended. they wouldn't tell the us why, but congressman byron donalds had a few ideas. take a listen. >> because they suck and they're cowards. they tonight have the ability to come and answer questions. unfortunate, it's -- unfortunately, it's indicative of this white house. who gave them the authority to the say an american can buy or not buy? >> reporter: the congressman is referring to new doe-proposed regulations that were the subject of odd today's hearing. if those proposals go into place, about half of all gas stoves on market right now could be out of compliance meaning they might have to be pulled from the market. some republican lawmakers estimate that number could actually be as high as 96% of all gas stoves. here's the top democrat on the subcommittee at today's hearing. >> i wish my republican colleagues were as concerned about black and brown communities on the front lines of our climate crisis as they are about an appliance.

this proposedded rule is not a ban on gas stoves. >> reporter: she says it's not a ban but, rather, regulation of indoor air pollution. the witnesses who did show up to today's hearing, liz, they spoke about americans' right to choose what type of sows they want to buy and defended that. elizabeth: grady trimble, thank you so much for the story. it's good to see you. let's welcome back from house oversight congressman pat fallon. okay, congressman, you were at the hearing. congresswoman cori bush says this is not a ban with on gas stoves, you know? it looks like the regulations say, yeah, it's s and wouldn't the hurt or black and brown, poor communities and middle class communities and minority communities, all of those communities across the mission? because -- the nation? because they would have to buy new appliances. >> yeah. liz, last congress the democrats taught us that the weather and pollution and covid was racist, but today ranking member bush on

my subcommittee taught us that, apparently, gas stoves are racist. i was unaware. and, yes, hay kept saying isn't a ban on gas sows. yes, it's. it's regulating them out of existence which is a de facto ban. and 96% of current shoves wouldn't even be compliant. elizabeth: how can congress not weigh this in here? the white house can just do this and force everyone to buy an electric car, how can congress has no say in this radical change to the economy? >> because it's an over, it's overreaching, the executive branch is now overreaching again. and aren't we a rule of law country? are we going to have a a law of the rule, basically it's a dictatorship by an unelected bureaucracy. we have to the push back with, and that's why we had this hearing today. elizabeth: you poke at the hearing today. let's watch the fireworks. watch this. >> celebrity chefs are suing. they like their gas stoves. they get exemptions for their

businesses. courts are even ruling in their favor. this is just outrageous logic. why are celebrities getting favored treatment over everyday americans? >> i have a six-burner, double oven range that sits on legs. i mean, i miss her right now. >> think about my colleague says he likes gas stoves. i like gas stove, we all like gas stoves. gas stoves have an enormous impact, a negative impact on the climate and on humans' health. >> i mean, we do have to the fund the department of energy. that's coming up in a couple of months. you can't come in here and answer questions, why would we fund you and. elizabeth: is that a real threat? are you going to go after the funding for the energy department? >> boy, i'd really like to because this is not the first time that they've cone this -- done this. they work for the taxpayers. we are the elected representatives of the taxpayers, and if they can't come to the a hearing for the people that they, by extension the, work for, then what good are they, liz? if their so proud of their new

rule, they should come and defend this rule. i found it interesting that ranking member bush said she likes gas stoves and yet she said heir dangerous and they kill people. which is it? that's not logical. elizabeth: well, what can you guys do about it? well, we could, as my good friend byron donalds said, from florida, we could use the power of the purse. we do fund them. i think we should cut their budget if they continue to ignore the will of congress. elizabeth: congressman pat fallon, thanks for joining us. voters hit with injuries, they were sickened and injured by covid vaccines. heir now suing president biden and white house officials. we're going to the explain why. and we've got the backlash grow requesting nationwide ecoto get rid of social justice dei programs in colleges, schools and businesses. why? people say it's unconstitutional, it's indoctrinated, compelled free speech -- rather, compelled speech. also, black lives matter found to be going into the red, but they're paying out million

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elizabeth: joining us now, "newsweek"'s deputy opinion editor. it's good to the see you. bath ya. this news coming n you know, black lives matter, they were a

force in this nation. social justice riots in 2020 to the and going forward. now they risk going bankrupt? $8.5 million deficit, they're in the hole, they're in the red? but we've got reportedly the cofounder, patrice patrice colors' brother still paid $1.6 million for security services last years and the sister of a board member reportedly earned more than a million bucks for consulting? what is going on with this story? >> thanks so much for having me, liz. it's really great to see you. listen, black lives matter, when it comes to to white progressives, they got what they paid for. they wanted to pay off some sort of indulgence for their white guilt, and this is exactly what they got. you know who believes that black lives matter? basically every american. there's no partisan divide over the worth of black lives in this country. what there is is a deslide over the elites, especially theist elites and the rest of the country who have embraced

dr. king's vision finally, finally. i mean, it took long enough. but they try to convince all of the normal people that they are racist in order to basically consolidate power and raise millions of dollars that then get misappropriated. so there's really no surprise here. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, there's that and there's so many crazy things going on on our college campuses and universitys. there's a major pushback based on free speech rights in florida the, texas, wisconsin, now california. what do you make of this sign i felt the, a former professor at the university of toronto, he's suing the university of california-santa cruz. he's saying they forced him to sign this dei inclusion statement with his job application. he said you're violating my first amendment rights. this is unconstitutional. it's a form of, quote, compelled speech. what do you think of this story? >> you know what, liz? we're in the woke lash. and the woke lash, the backlash to far-left extremist woke policies that do not represent the majority even of democrats,

you're seeing it all over the place. you're seeing it in bud with light, you're seeing it in target, you're seeing it in opposition to to dei. let me just give you some statistics, right? just 17% of americans believe that trans athletes belong on teams with people who are born of that gender, okay? just 17%. that is a woke view that is unrepresentative of where most americans are. 51% of black americans oppose affirmative action. do you ever hear about that on cnn or msnbc? you don't. because these are factors that the left has to hide so it can consol candidate power by convincing normal, regular americans that they're bad people even though heir not. elizabeth: and then there's this story, who the michigan state university students, college students, they filed a lawsuit, they're suing this former professor. she taught dei. she forced around 600 students, of her students to pay $99 to sign up for her activist web

site, but then she reportedly used the money to donate to planned parenthood and buy an rv for her trip around the u.s. she reportedly raised around $60,000. we don't know what the numbers are and what she raised from students, but, you know, this is at black lives matter reportedly there and what this story is about, there's a nasty underbelly to what's really going on, batya. >> yeah, absolutely. no organization can turn you into a good person with a donation. if somebody's canning you for money in order to -- asking you for money in order to the prove you don't have a dark soul, they are the ones with the dark soul, right? [laughter] americans are finally united around the values that this great nation was found thed on, and that is bad news for the left because they get all of their power by telling people who are conservative that they're evil racists. elizabeth: okay. batya, we're going to have you back ons it's good to see you again. >> great to see you. elizabeth: okay. in less than -- it's going to happen in about 10 minutes, we've got governor desantis,

he's going to talk on twitter about his 2024 race for the white house with elon musk. reports are coming in, he is going to the take on there trump. he's going to focus on the approach to the covid pandemic and vaccines and more. and we've got c. jeanette they were watt coming up. voters hit with injuries from covid vaccines. five of these voters are suing president biden and white house officials. we've got that story coming in. but we want to check in with our buddies dagen and sean, hear what's coming up next hour on "the bottom line." sean: we have a show that's going to the razzle and debasil -- bedazzle. we are two former presidential candidate, governor mike huckabee and governor rick perry. dagen: together, together, jimmy failla and douglas murray on probably more than one machete-wielding professor educating young people in this nation. he'll talk about that. coming up, top of the hour.ie s,♪ ♪

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weeks, but if you remember that same year, memorial day, people were out and about on their boats barbecuing. it was the specific communities and specific states that decided whether they wanted to stay open or not. of course, they did a lot of them followed the guidelines and the advice of the cdc, but, you know, we can't trust everything that comes out of these government organizations. so i don't think it's fair to point the finger and to point blame. instead what they should be doing is talking about their achievements, talking about the, for example, president trump and operation warp speed and how, you know, we got those vaccines in time to get elderly people protected, to keep them from i doing because if you recall, they were the ones that were most at risk. elizabeth: so let's talk about these vaccines, right? now we have five people who suffered injuries from covid vaccines including a woman reportedly suffered severe nerve damage. they just filed a lawsuit against president biden and white house officials for allegedly violating their first amendment rights claiming hay

pressured social media to the crack down on people who tried to share their claim they have been repeatedly sense soared by the social media platt forms. what do you make of this case? >> you know what? i think someone needs to be held accountable, whether big pharma, whether our government. the fact that all-americans want, honestty, truths trans parry. that is my job as physician, provide the best information for your patients it siziest cult when we see the censorship. what they were doing, what the white house is being blamed for is cracking down, flagging anything that had to do with covid that was against their views that was not in the alignment with their views. i'm not just talking about vaccines. remember, we were told if you get the vaccine, you could not catch covid, you could not spread covid that was not true. they wouldn't acknowledge natural immunity. they were going back and forth with the masks. were they effective, were they not effective?

they would not acknowledge the lab leak theory even though half of this stuff was true so it is a really a blow to our democracy to see our government try to infiltrate social media, especially half of this was real information. it could have made a difference in the lives of some people. i always say to my patients, don't get your information from the internet or from social media. talk to your trusted doctor. liz: doctor, what you're saying coming up in the missouri, louisiana attorney generals lawsuit against the biden white house. they say, they're finding officials pressured facebook, whatsapp, other social media companies to censor users talking about problems with covid vaccinations and severe side effects. u.s. district judge dowdy, he wrote, doctor, he is rejecting the government claim to dismiss the case that the plaintiffs, quote, plausibly alleged, extensive highly effective efforts by government officials to silence or muffle the expression of disfavored

viewpoints. >> yeah. they were silenced. as with anything, whether it's vaccines, medications or antibiotics there will be side effects. it is our duty to make sure we present that information to, you know, patients, to americans. then leave it up to them to decide whether they want that vaccine or not. whether they are high-risk or not, whether they need it or not. for example, if you have natural immunity from previous infection you don't need to get the vaccine t was beneficial for some, and not for others. there is something that we can see coming out of this. we need to have truth again and transparency moving forward. liz: doctor, when we talked about this, when you heard and saw people bullying other people, just really attacking severely other people who had questions, mere questions about this emergency use off-the-shelf vaccine for covid-19, if they raised questions what will it do to my heart, what is the spike

protein going to do to my organs, when you saw the bullying, the serious attacks to shut down people who had questions about it, what was your initial reaction what did you feel? >> it was wrong. quite disheartening, and it should never happen in this country in the united states of america. we should be open to free speech, to thoughts, to ideas. that is what leads to growth and innovation, not stifling debate. so i'm, in a way we're lucky that elon musk purchased twitter so that he can create this platform of free speech and see what becomes of it. liz: thank you. dr. neshewiat we have elon musk talking to ron desantis momentarily. give it over to dagen and sean at the bottom line. thanks for watching "the evening edit.." dagen: thanks, emac. ♪ dagen: goo