larry: i'll just say i think it's going to be a pocketbook, kitchen table economic kind of election, and i don't think joe biden stands a chance of winning it. that's my thought. anyway, you want to see a real winner, liz macdonald, up next on her fabulous show. elizabeth: you're the best. thank you so much, we appreciate it. it's good to see you. okay, we will kick off tonight with investigations now bearing down on allegations of corruption involving the

president and biden panel wily deal making overseas. house gop oversight, they're going to to have a presser this wednesday morning at 9 a.m. showing more evidence alleging this is wider and deeper than realized. we're also dilling into the biden -- digging into what the biden family was doing with those shell companies. also white house preparing for justice department charge against hunter biden as the president tells msnbc hunter did nothing wrong. david spunt has the story. >> reporter: several different tracks involving hunter biden on the hill and also the federal investigation here at doj. this is what president biden, as you referenced, talked about in that interview that aired on msnbc late friday. let's take a look. >> first of all, my son's done nothing wrong. i trust him, i have faith in the him, and it impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him. >> reporter: fox news told the probing into hunter's finances

and taxes, overseas business dealings specifically, began in at least 2018, potentially earlier. "the washington post" reporting federal prosecutors getting very close to the making a decision about potential charges but, of course, that timeline could slide. the second probe on capitol hill where house republicans i calling on can doj officials to the hold off on quieting biden, but there's a catch. listen. >> my message ott department of justice is very loud and clear, do not indict hunter biden before wednesdayn you have the opportunity to see the evidence that the house oversight committee will produce with respect to the web of llcs, with respect to the number of adversarial countries that this family influence peddled in. this is the not just about the president's son. >> reporter: also this week, a closed door interview with former cia director john brennan, one of the signers of the controversial 2020 the letter dismissing the hunter

biden laptop story as potential russian kiss information. it reads in part, quote, we do not have evidence of russian involvement, just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the russian government played a significant role in this case. house republicans want answers to a recent report citing the fact in the report that this was used as a talking point on the biden campaign. former director of national intelligence james clapper is scheduled to the appear before a behind the scenes, closed door interview a week from this wednesday, about a week after john brennan does the same. busy weekend. elizabeth: you'll be busy, thank you so much. it's good to see you, david. let's welcome back to the show from house oversightman russell fry and former congressional investigator sam dewey, congressman and sam, it's good to see you. congressman, what more information will house oversight release on wednesday in the way of more evidence of pay to play schemes involving the president, the president's family? >> i think more transactions. i mean, obviously, your viewers

know full well the well documented payment from the chinese communist party or energy company to a biden family associate. so the chairman intends to release more of that, more countries -- [inaudible] really show this. elizabeth: more biden family members involved? we're counting up to 15 now. is that true? >> i think it could be, it could be there. i think we're at 9 right now but chairman -- people have alleged 12. what we do know is that it's very deep. it's not just hunter biden or joe biden, it's multiple biden family members. and some of those, quite frankly, including hunter himself you have to wonder what nexus do you have to an energy company in china. so for people -- this doesn't pass the smellest the, and a lot of people -- smell test, and a lot of people are concerned about a pay the play scheme potentially involving the president and his family. and so some of this stuff will be outlined. there's a lot that we've uncovered in the oversight committing, and there's a rot

more to come. elizabeth: sam, what's fallout of all that? we've got with irs whistleblowers meeting with house ways and means to give a peek at what a supervisor special agent will show congress on allegations of justice department officials stonewalling the doj probe of hunter biden. hen you have a separate fbi whistleblower saying there is an fbi confidential human source report in the summer of 2020 saying, yes, joe biden was involved in a pay to the play bribery scheme. what do you make of everything? >> well, i think the question is, is this all being looked at. and this is arising in the context of a very limited doj investigation into hunter biden. and if you define the investigation narrowly, you can avoid looking into stuff that you don't want to. here the question is, how broad should the inquiry be. and i think it's very clear from all the sources that you just went through that there appears

to be a credible basis for a much broader inquiry that you need to look into all of this, that disposing of some, you know, tax issue that hunter had and maybe lying on his gun isn't going to change that. and that's how i took the remarks from chairman comer, that this needed to be looked into holistically. elizabeth: so let's listen to the president, let's listen the more from the james comer. and you're going to watch the president in that msnbc interview. watch this. >> we're going to the produce an additional 5 biden family members, more countries, more ll lcs, more bank accounts. i mean, this thing is much bigger than anyone would have ever predicted, and it all points towards joe biden. obviously, joe biden was involved in all these things despite the tact that he's lied to the american people, despite the fact that his press secretary continues to lie about it. elizabeth: okay. so, congressman, this use of

shell companies, the treasury and bank records, the senate also details millions of collars went to the biden family through shell companies. we're finding they set up shells to avoid registering as foreign lobbyists. that was number one. and also to hide the money flows so they were acting as a go-between to help china bid on federal and state infrastructure projects and also to help china get stakes many infrastructure and technology -- in infrastructure and technology companies. is that what you guys are findingsome. >> i think the biggest question in my mind is why use middlemen? why use rob walker? why use these llcs? you know, if you have -- if you're performing a service or providing a good, the person would just pay you for the service or the good directly. but you see here in some of these transactions money flowing from these foreign companies to an associate and then through a series of transactions goes to members of the biden family and their companies. i think it raises a lot of questions. and, again, the chairman is

right and to the other an panelist, casting a wide net here is important because this is a complicate web that we see. and again, i've said this before, this seems to be the tip of the iceberg. elizabeth: sam, the interview with president biden, it was said there's something personal that's affecting you with no ties to you. the biden family has been inaccused of raw influence peddling. hunter biden's been getting help from his father since he got a job at a bank in delaware and then on the board of amtrak, and we found dozens and dozens and dozens of e-mails that hunter biden and his team were sending to then-vice president's office starting in 2009 after hunter launched one of his advisories in order to get his power's help. why is the media continuing to downplay this, sam? >> i can't tell you. i mean, influence peddling is one of the oldest games in town, so maybe they're thinking

everybody does it, but this is just more extreme than anything we've ever seen. it makes everything else that's gone before just pale in comparison. so there is no logical explanation for what they are doing. elizabeth: got it. >> if the shoe were on the other boot, there would be outrage. elizabeth: thanks for joining us tonight. joining us now, economics and finance editor for breitbart, the one and only john carney. john, the polls are bad for biden, but no one saw how dire it was. this new abc/washington post poll, what really jumps out is a majority say trump did a better job on the economy, two-thirds say biden is not mentally sharp, and trump beats biden by more than 30 points. voters say trump is more physically fit, biden has less mental acuity. did that jump out to youing, john? >> it did. look, trump obviously did a better job on the economy. we had unemployment about right where it ises the right now, and

we had no inflation at all. so now here we are with, yes, very low unemployment, but 40-year high inflation. so, you know, it's obvious to me that that's just the truth. people are seeing that. and hen they keep hearing biden say the economy's doing great, that makes people say, huh, is his brain not focusing quite right? because doesn't make any sense. i can't afford to, you know, buy groceries for my family, and this guy's telling me everything's great. elizabeth breath yeah. i mean, he's been saying that for twoer years. we've got a record low 36% job approval for biden. two-thirds say he's not mentally sharp. six in ten democrats don't want him to run again according to that watch, watch. >> this poll was just brutal for president biden. >> record low approval rating, actually 6 points down just since february. >> his approval rating's at 36%, a career low. more americans now say donald trump did a better job handling

economy, and trump is leading biden in a 2024 matchup. >> and the skepticism extends keep inside his own party, only 36% of democrats hi their party should nominate joe biden for a second term. elizabeth: he just announced his 2024 run last week. the trump white house was part of the longest recovery and expansion ever recorded and now we've got biden overspending, fueling record inflation, 14.6 all in. inflation is the decline in the value of the currency. that's what's going on. >> that's right. look, when they came into office, they passed what hay called american rescue plan even hoe the economy was already on the mend concern even though economy was already on mend. $the 2 trillion that you just -- we're probably facing inflation anyway, but nothing like what we got. it's that extra spending. the promise of spending to come forever more or less that really

made inflation go wild. the fed underestimated it, the biden administration underestimated it, and now we're dealing with it. and it's still theremeure underg inflation, they actually tell us that inflation has barely come down at all. yes, the headline number has come down, but for the last four or five months what i look at is called median cpi. it's the exact average of inflation, and that tells you inflation is sticky and isn't really coming down very much at all. elizabeth: wow, that's amazing. so now we've got 43 republicans saying -- senate republicans saying, yeah, they'll support speaker mccarthy, but joe biden is counseling down. -- doubling down. what do you make of that fight? kjp is using analogy of buying a car, you're supposed to make the monthly payments, but bide withing's trying to get everybody's student lobes forgiven. what -- loans forgiven.

>> i would just say we could absolutely pay our debt no matter what. even if they don't raise the debt ceiling, u.s. government treasury bonds can be paid out of current revenue. we will come nowhere close to to defaulting on those treasury bonds. we may have to el some government contractors, hey, we're hot going to the pay you to for a little while million we get this worked out with congress and the biden administration. but current revenue is more than enough to pay all of the interest and principal on treasury bonds that come due. so when they say we're going to default, that's just a scare tactic, and it's the, frankly, not working. the republicans already passed a bill that would raise the debt ceiling. all they need to do is get biden administration to agree to what are not even real cuts. elizabeth: yeah. >> larry kudlow said this other day, and it was the perfect. he said it's not even a cut, it's a speed limit. breathe elizabeth a speed bump. that's right. to slow the rate of growth.

john carney, thanks for joining us. reports that democrats in d.c. reportedly in an uproar that former president trump beats both president biden and governor ron desantis in that new washington post/abc poll. people liking trump's policies. california deep in the red are. taxpayers and businesses fleeing. fitch is saying this is the only state in the union that is collecting less money but now. reparations panel is saying, yeah, pay $800 billion in reparations. plus, we're going to dig deeper into why house oversight chair comer now says the doj should hold off on indicting hunter biden, that they've got new evidence there might be an even bigger case there. and the president about to veto a new house gop bill to crack down on the border crisis that critics say biden created and is not fixing. former doj official francey

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security caucus. what do you make of president biden saying he will veto the house gop's border security legislation that would keep trump's remain in mexico, keep building the border wall, but he's going to veto it? >> it just shows how out of touch president biden is not only from the our border communities, but our american communities and from our law enforcement and border patrol. we know that that there is a crisis down there of epic proportions. we have close to 50,000 immigrants waiting across the border between mcallen and brownsville. e when title 42 the is lifted, we will see human aaron crisis like never seen -- humanitarian crisis like never seen before. elizabeth: we have the white house press secretary, karine jean pier, criticizing this border legislation that would try to fix the crisis that the president created, critics say. watch this. >> the bill, h.r. 2, would be a cast the for border security and

a christmas morning gift for human smugglers. and instead of providing the needed resources for more border security technology and asylum officers and judges, it would waste taxpayer dollars on an ineffective wall, again, an ineffective wall that can't even withstand heavy winds let alone sophisticated criminal smuggling networks. elizabeth: congresswoman, your reaction. >> well, what's a true disaster is the biden administration's lack of policies at the border. we have seen an unprecedented amount of illegal immigration cross through our borders, fentanyl that is killing our children. we've seen humanitarian crisis like never seen before. this is coming from a border czar that's been to the southern border once in 50 years? nobody takes her seriously just like we don't the take the biden administration seriously. when the gop puts h.r. 2 the on the floor, we are going to the

keep our commitment to to america which is to secure our border and to streamline the asylum process. elizabeth: how is the white house press secretary saying that the gop if bill would create human smuggling and drug smuggling when that went into overdrive because the president did away with a lot of border security policies, but they're making that claim now. texas senator john cornyn said the biden team can stop all of this, they can use title 8, and they're even releasing people before they're even making asylum claims. now this new, aggressive rhetoric out of the white house is trying to flip the script on gop. is it working? >> not working at all. the american people are seeing it right through, these games and these continued lies. we see it true the border and the concern through the border and the unprecedented amount of illegal immigration, the drugs that are coming through our border that's killing children in america, and that's why the

gop is going to put down h.r. 2 the on the house floor, because we are going to keep the commitment that we made to america and stop the crisis that the border administration has self-inflicted to americans. elizabeth: let's watch arizona senator kyrsten sinema on how the white house is basically handling its policy of getting rid of trump's border policies. you're also going to listen to a voter in chicago. watch this. >> the biden administration had two years to prepare for this and did not do so, and our state is going to bear the brunt. and migrants will be in crisis as soon as next week. it will be a humanitarian crisis, because we are not prepared. >> it is a slap in the face that we as citizens of the united states of america do not have the resources and support, but you're going to bring people who are not citizens here in our community, in our buildings that we pay taxes for that you took away from us. that is completely unacceptable. the black people in chicago are

bleeding on streets. elizabeth: what do you say, congresswoman? you see, you know, that's in chicago. they're saying the same thing in border communities up and down from california through texas. what's going on there, you know, hospitals, prisons swamped and overloaded. taxpayers not getting what they pay for in those communities. >> the biden administration does the not care about border communities, and what she said was exactly and is exactly what the gop has been saying for two years. we have a crisis on our hands. the biden administration, by threatening a veto where his colleagues on the senate, democrats are saying we need good policy, the gop this week will put to the house floor h.r. 2 the which will solve the crisis that the biden administration has failed to acknowledge. they continue again and again to fail americans when it comes to

the border. elizabeth: how dangerous is it, what's going on? >> well, i live on the border in mcallen, texas. we are simply a pass-through area. in other words, immigrants come through our area, and then they are spread all over the nation. in places like chicago. so in my area, the stresses with the law enforcement and with the health care system along with our border e patrol agents, the resources are scarce. but what is scary is that these people are taken to cities all across america, and that's why it is a national security threat with the open border policy that the biden administration has. elizabeth: okay. congresswoman de la cruz, thanks for joining us tonight. it's good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: okay. california is turning upside down, it's it's deep in the red, taxpayers and businesses reeve leaving.

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elizabeth: okay, there's a lot going on. abc/washington post poll, trump beats both biden and desantis. we've got a border in a state of

chaos and collapse. probes bearing down on the biden family cashing in on the president's government job, but the white house is now focused on new rules for the airlines. lydia hu in new york city with more. >> reporter: good evening, liz. the biden administration announcing today it will propose new rules mandating airlines compensate passengers when the airline is responsible for a they or cancellation. the proposal is similar to rules already in place in europe and canada where airlines pay travelers cash when at fault for disruptions. >> the faa and department of transportation are doing our part, but airlines need to accept their fundamental responsibility to better serve passengers. >> they matter most to middle class families and people struggling to get the cost in the first place. >> reporter: but the airline industry questions how this proposal will improve flight performance. airlines for america is a trade association representing delta, united, american and others. it points out most disruptions

are caused by weather, and they say these mandates would make airline tickets more expensive. >> be careful what you wish for. the one thing you can be sure of is that costs go up and there will be less flights. and the people most impacted will be consumers at the lower end of the scale. it's going to have precisely the impact that the administration saysst trying to solve to. >> reporter: this plan follows months of finger pointing between the federal government and airlines, issues like shortages in air traffic controllers, lack of preparation for bad weather and overbooked flight schedules all being blame for poor performances. it's unclear now how much or under what circumstances travelers will be compensate. there's also no clear timeline on when the rule could take effect as a rulemaking process is just getting started and could take months. liz, back to you. elizabeth: lydia hu, thank you so much. look who's here, former utah congressman jason chaffetz. jason, it's great to see you. more and more we're hearing the

rhetoric ramping up on the far left and in the media as trump gains in the polls. we'd like your reaction to outgoing chicago democrat mayor lori lightfoot blaming, quote, right-wing forces for why she lost her re-election bid. >> -- in 2020, part of trump's national strategy was to go after cities and mayors like me. those cog whistles that were blown in 2020 the -- cog whistles are still resonating today, and it was fed by the uncertainty and the anger and then funded by right-wing forces that wanted to take down a big city mayor. unfortunately, the people who were jumping on the band wag gone of a republican posing like a democrat now have got a democratic socialist as their mayor. so careful what you wish for. elizabeth: whoa, whoa, whoa. wait a second. jason, it was democrats who defeated lightfoot, and even more far-left radical progressive brandon johnson beat

lori lightfoot. it was the democrat voters in the democrat primary in chicago, democrats voted lightfoot out, but it's right-wing forces? >> yeah. [laughter] look, the former mayor's got some issues there that she's going to the need to work through. as you point out, she lost in the primary. she didn't even end up in the top two in the primary, so, you know, this is problem with -- look, people want to have their crime solved, look, and i don't agree with the way the people of chicago voted. but they get what they vote for. but it wasn't some vast right-wing conspiracy. that sounds like hillary clinton. length elizabeth when you looked at this washington post/abc poll, former president trump beats both biden and desantis. he beats biden by 18 points, 54-36. more senate republicans now back trump. he is consol dating his support and power in the gop party. what kinding, jason? >> yeah. i think president trump is demonstrating that the four years under trump were markedly better than the who the and a

half, three years under joe biden. the problem is people actually want what trump delivers, a better economy, strong overseas, somebody we can rely on to lock down down the border and fight crime. these are things people care about. they're bread and butter issues, things that americans are actually talking about. instead joe biden's coming up with new rules for the tsa and for the transportation -- i mean, this is not the top of the heap. joe biden is a poor communicator, and when you start to lose young people and even the majority of his party don't believe he has the cognitive capability to the be president, i don't know how you recover from that. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, we know trump still faces multiple investigations and probes -- >> he's always had that. that's always been a problem. elizabeth: right. always since he's been in real estate here in new york city. >> yeah, exactly. elizabeth: trump has doubled his lead over desantis. and you know what's really striking, since manhattan d.a.

alvin bragg indicted trump in late march, trump led desantis by an average of 16 points on march 30, the day he was indicted. that's according to the real clear politics average. by may 1st, trump's lead doubled to 30 points over desantis. i mean, jim mcloughlin said they've never seen trump's numbers like this in the general in either 2006 or 2020, and now the he's way ahead of a lot of folks. people don't understand why trump is as popular as he is. the reason is, is he had a successful presidency and a track record to run on, and voters agree with him on issues. >> yeah. and they don't understand the heartland of america. they look at the bubbles in los angeles, you know, new york and washington, d.c., but if you unin the heartland -- understood in the heartland, donald trump is perceived as a fighter. he's going to the fight for the american people. he doesn't need the job, he doesn't need the title. of course they're always after him, it's because he's out

front. i think the other factor that happened, liz, is east palestine. he went there, he showed the compassion. joe biden fail to show up. that was a big event in this country, and donald trump's the only one that showed up, and people know that around the country. elizabeth: yeah. went to the border, went to east palestine, the toxic rail crash, yeah. jason chaffetz, thanks for joining us. our hot take is coming up. we're going to dig in keeper into why house oversight chair comer now says the doj should hold off, do not indict hunter biden just yet. they say there might be an even bigger case here. also free thinker project c.j. pearson, california deep in the red are. taxpayers, businesses leaving california. it's the only state out of 50 to see a drop in tax revenues, but a panel now recommends the state do reparations. it's coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪now, is here. one of the things that my mother told me

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reparations task force, this weekend they approved the latest draft of that proposal. who would actually get the money is still in flux, eligibility requirements. but for context, those 71 and above would receive up to $1.2 million, less if you're young orer, and those calculated different amounts, those are to compensate black residents for overpolicing, housing discrimination and what they're calling health injustices. and the as thing force, by the way, is calling it a down payment and warning that they would likely see more reparations in the future. many at the meeting praised the task force but agree that $1.2 the million is not nearly enough. >> $1.2 million, that's a crop in the bucket. i'd rath -- a drop in the bucket. i'd rather there be $can 10 millionst not enough when you look at the the atrocities that happened. >> reporter: the task force was charged with determining the price tag but not the plan for funding it. in an estimate going back to march shares it could cost as much as $800 billion, that has many economists questioning how

californiard this when the state's already facinglready a net deficit state in terms of its debt. we owe close to $2 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities for our government workers, for example, and for health care benefits for public workers. we are upside down. >> reporter: so those are just recommendations for now, liz. the legislature will have to vote but, certainly, hundreds of billions of dollars not likely to help with inflation. [laughter] elizabeth: kelly o'grady, thank you so much. great reporting, as always. look who's back with us from prager-u, a top conservative thinker, c.j. pearson. c.j., what do you think of that report? >> it's absolutely insane, and i truly have begun to believe we're living in the upside down. california was never a slave state, so this conversation is absolutely absurd that we're even having to have, but also too if they really want to with give reparations to the black

community, how can the left doesn't just stop destroying the black community in inner cities across the country in places like l.a. and cities like detroit, baltimore? their progressive policies are the reasons reparations are even being talked about, and it's a crazy conversation to even have. elizabeth: cominority voters in california understand their taxes are going to to have to go up to the pay for all of this? >> well, i hope they can do. what's interesting about that clip you paid, $1.2 million is being described as a drop in the bucket. that's absolutely insane. again, when you look at what's happening in california, when you look at the homelessness, the crime, there are far bigger issues on the minds of black and brown americans in this state, and for them to actually trivialize the black community by saying, hey, with we don't care about you enough to come up with an agenda, but we'll give you a few dollars to keep your mouth shut, it should be offensive to every black american across the country.

elizabeth: we're seeing this report coming out, c.j., what was your reaction when you saw happy days' star scott bay owe is leaving california, selling his nearly $4 million mansion in woodland hills, you say rampant crime. it's not just him, mark wahlberg, katherine hagel matt mcconaughey all left too. but social media is shamming scott bay owe now. -- slamming scott baio now. >> it's no surprise that people are flee, and i've got the tell you as someone who is here in l.a., it does remind me of the reason -- it reminds me of the reason i think because i don't want america to have to live the reality we have many california. i'm talking about the crime, i'm talking about the homelessness. this is the left's playbook for all of america if they get their way. and we can't run away from the fight. that's why i think it's so great that prager-u is based here in l.a., in the belly of the beast,

because we're remind of why we fight and why we must win. because if we don't, we'll lose this country. elizabeth: well, it looks like half a million citizens of california left just between april of 2020 and july of 2022 alone, and we're seeing double-digit spikes higher in crime as the tax base gets eroded. they can't pay for the cops if you lose people, right? final word, c.j. >> yeah. and if all these people are leaving, i really am curious how they plan to fund $1.2 the million reparations plan. elizabeth: got it. c.j. pearson, come back soon. our hot take is coming up. former doj official, former federal prosecutor francey hakes, she's fired up. we're going to dig in deeper into why house oversight chair comer says justice department should hold off and not indict hunter biden due to new evidence. what we're finding in reports about the hunter biden shell companies and the biden family

shells and e-mails and texts and all of that coming up on "the evening edit." let's check in with dagen and sean. sean: we're going to talk about the border disaster with the end of title 42 on the horizon. mike huckabee's going to be here as well as joe biden's cratering poll numbers. dagen: joe biden talking about the airlines instead of the border and all the other problems in this country. jimmy failla on fixing this country by making babies. yeah, that's what we're talking about. lee carter also talking about biden's poll numbers so bad the only person willing to defend him is hillary clinton. [laughter] that coming up, top of the hour. sean: 11en minutes away. ♪

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♪. liz: got our "hot take" for you tonight. look who is back with us tonight, former justice department official, former federal prosecutor francy hakes. this is story coming in. hunter biden is reportedly being

investigated by the doj things like tax evasion and violating foreign lobbying laws including also money laundering. this is key, that they used shell companies purposely to avoid having to register as foreign lobbyists. this is the same charge that was leveled against trump team members like general michael flynn. joe biden knew this under the obama white house, they went after the trump campaign team for farah violations, but at the same time setting up shell companies to take money from overseas deals with nations like china. what do you think? >> i think it is a garbage charge. it was garbage when they tried to use it against the trump team. no one gets prosecuted by fara violations. this steaming pile of evidence dropped on the fbi, in 2019,

given everything we know now, certainly at minimum suggests serious public corrupt -- corruption, yet what we hear doj will come up with a fara violation or lying on tax form buying a gun. really? wonder what all the hlcs what they were doing, not the fact they were not registering what they were doing, who was doing what for the money. liz: stay on that. emails and texts reports we're seeing looking at footnotes in the government documents, they used shell companies to act as a middleman to act as go between with nations like chain, where china wanted to bid on federal and state infrastructure projections. they were trying to get money for china in those deals. they were using shell companies to help china to purchase stakes

in tech and infrastructure companies. that they acted as a go between in all of that. >> well you know, liz, shell companies are really for one thing. ha is to hide what you're doing, to anyone who might be looking specifically the government and law enforcement. i have a consulting company. you know what it is called? francy hakes consulting. i'm not hiding anything. anyone who wants to know what i'm doing can figure it out. i'm not naming my companies rosemont seneca or whatever other crazy things hunter biden was calling the shell corporations to do what seems to me looks very like hiding revenue from the government, at least hiding the source of the revenue from the public. liz: that is interesting. so, you know what is interesting too is, gene hamilton, america first legal, they're getting more and more emails from foia, freedom of information act requests. what they're finding is this started from the get go before joe biden sat down as vice president in the obama white house. watch this.

>> we're seeing from the very earliest days of the then obama-biden administration, back in 2009 the extent to which the biden family was committed to its influence peddling. they carried on throughout, what we suspect to be the duration of the obama presidency. hunter biden, who set up this seneca global advisors organization, which was set up to influence and provide opportunities for expansion into foreign markets, all of sudden you see hunter biden traveling with the vice president going to every country he wants to go to. we all have seen and we all have heard about all of the many business dealings that he has had since then, whether that is with chinese nationals, whether that is involving burisma and the like. what we're seeing from these records, for the first time, the extent to which this dated back to the earliest days of the biden administration. liz: let's stay on this for a

second. hunter sets up seneca global in 2008. sean: right as vice president biden wins his seat in the oval office. so at that point they started going in to start doing deals with the vice president's office help according to these foia emails, francey. dozens and dozens of emails from hunter's team going to obama biden in the obama white house. he got consultant at mbna bank after the bank gave hundreds of thousands of to biden and also got a job at amtrak, hunter biden did. >> very clear to me, liz, that once biden came into vice president they were coming into the big show. this is the where real money is made. fly around on air force one, air force two, go to all the different places and hit the countries up.

whether there is influence peddling we'll do this for that that remains to be seen. hunter biden had zero qualifications. he was a drug addict and a sex addict. what is some one paying him millions of dollars for? that is one thing he had, access to his vice president joe biden. liz: if everything is okay, why is no one talking? why are there no visitor logs to the biden delaware properties? final word? >> i have no idea. seems the deep state is very involved. you have very entrenched liberals in all the agencies protecting the biden family. liz: francy hakes, thank you. tomorrow night house judiciary mike johnson, miranda devine of "new york post." thanks for watching "the evening edit." take it to my buddies dagen and sean at "the bottom line." liz: good to see you. sean: hey, emac. ♪.