wear it may even agree, because it is really impossible to sink the peninsula directly, but if such an aircraft carrier is left without everything necessary for its life, for its life, life support, then these aircraft carriers, as the russians say , will turn into a flying dutchman, that is, it will , as it were, not sunk, but no , well, it will not be able to function, how will it affect the course of hostilities, well, i am sure that, well, any hostilities in... the east, he is unlikely to be able to, even an almost sunken aircraft carrier, is unlikely to be able to do, those troops, which are there the russian ones are concentrated, and the logistics that exist there will still remain, but here there is more, well, what will be the importance of the military, we will liberate a very large part of our territory, and then we will be able to build some of our strategic objects, tactical objects. maybe

it will be there, we can use our aviation, we hope that it will be in the 16th, it will affect, but not like that, not directly, on the entire front line, well , that means such questions, they are so unobvious, but they are so voluminous that on what exactly, well, it will affect everything, it will affect everything at once, this is a hybrid war, it consists of political, economic, ideological, informational and so on, and all these components, they will work, and so on besides, this is our territory and here is yours, mr. ulsun, i think that here are you, your brothers, our friends, the crimeans, the crimean tatars whom you represent, they are also their own, god forbid, and by the way, the ukrainian political leadership sent a signal that the crimeans mobilized by the occupiers will not be brought to justice in... the country

under certain conditions, it is said that if they were forcibly mobilized, and this is a sign that ukraine clearly understands who its enemies are, that the enemies are not the crimeans, the direct residents of crimea, but the occupiers who seized crimea, and if it so happened that the crimeans could not avoid mobilization, then they can count on the fact that they will not be judged for this, if they did not take part in some... radical actions against the ukrainian armed forces, is this an important signal, well, purely psychological , isn't it time to talk at all about, it's important, it's important, it's a very important signal, the fact is that when the preparations for the so-called elections of president putin began in the temporarily occupied territories, including in crimea, while preparing , as it were, lists of voters, they once again checked where and who is located, where people are of conscription age, and after these elections

were held on march 15, they began to mobilize people in their entirety according to those supposedly electoral lists, lists, to avoid mobilization, well, it was extremely difficult, because there could be a very harsh responsibility up to prison, up to execution, there the russians already used such and such a means of punishment both within their troops and around, we heard about it, so i don't... think it makes sense to somehow blame these people, there is traitors, well, there are traitors in any country during any war, so those people who went with weapons in their hands to fight against ukraine voluntarily, or very actively, being mobilized , performed their supposedly official duties, well, these are their official duties ties, but it is a crime to carry out a criminal order, it is also a crime, therefore, with these people, there will be certain certain things. from our law enforcement agencies, all

other people, they should not be condemned for this, on the contrary, i am sure that they will form the base, the foundation of those people around whom the government in crimea will be formed, around whom the ukrainian government in crimea, the ukrainian the tatar government in crimea will be formed, they will argue about these people, we already remember how many cases when people disappeared in crimea, especially of tatar nationality, how many false accusations were made against them, so i think what's going on, let's remember that our underground people work there, our partisans, who help us a lot in certain data, in certain actions related to intelligence, those missiles that arrive at airfields, other things, they are not only we use, when we plan these, prepare these combat deployments and plan these combat measures, that we rely only on intelligence data or areo-reconnaissance, space intelligence, this is... but they help our

armed forces to free this peninsula of occupation faster, so that is, there is an internal support. heard from our headquarters about developments, you know, well, when they arrived on the same p44, then they said that the underground helped us a lot, well, it was just yours , yours, maybe yours, even your acquaintances, mr. volsun, so maybe it may be, but i am not sure, the russian occupiers, at the same time, are spreading information that they can shoot down atakams missiles, that... the russian military should not be afraid of them, and the united states of america says that this is not true, so they can shoot them down or not can no, knocking down there is big trouble, but they, they, you know, the russians are improving, they also see

what kind of weapons we use, during the war, every type of equipment is being improved very quickly, taking into account, well, their capabilities and capabilities. how to defend against them, uh, there is, yes, there is information that, using electronic warfare, they degrade the gps signals that guide the missiles, and the accuracy of such missiles, all the missiles, well, that we use, that use external management, control, their accuracy deteriorates and efficiency is falling, well, we expected it too, we understand perfectly well that the russians will improve, and we also have to improve our means of attack. with which we attack a russian military object, well, it does not happen that some weapon used by any of the parties becomes impossible to impress the other party, the other party draws conclusions and prepares very quickly, and the russians do this too , so to say

that these missiles will also do the same damage as at the beginning of how we they started to receive them, it’s not worth it, of course they ... efficiency, well, that’s what they say in the pentagon, their efficiency is decreasing, that is, fewer missiles hit the target precisely thanks to some possibilities for interception in the anti-aircraft missile complex and by means of radio-electronic warfare, but this does not mean that they have become useless and they cannot cause significant damage to the enemy, they cannot, the only thing that will be necessary, well, unfortunately, is to use a few percent more missiles in order to achieve the same goal as six months ago. thank you very much, mr. oleksiy, chokhsaglana, who found the time and joined our broadcast. oleksiy getsman was in direct contact with us. reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. and we have a short break, right andrii? yes, 5 minutes for advertising, and we will meet you again in

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focus on humanitarian issues. the first block was more about military issues, and i have you, let's talk about pensions the verkhovna rada of ukraine, crimea, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted a law that simplifies the restoration of pensions for crimeans, for ukrainians who move from crimea to sub-control. kyiv territory, do you know about these simplifications, why they are important or unimportant for crimeans, and now, as far as i understand, not so many crimeans are moving, this is already preparation for the liberation of crimea, when it will be necessary to integrate crimeans into crimea into ukrainian society, can this signal be considered in this way? yes, this is an important issue, just for pensions. since this one bill, it was expected for a long time, the issue of pension payments for residents of the temporarily

occupied territory of crimea, it has been standing since the very beginning of the temporary occupation, there have been several attempts to regulate this issue, all this time this situation looked like a person is moving from the territory of crimea, appeal to the branch of the pension fund with an application for renewal of payment, that is, we are talking... only about those pensioners who became such before 2014, those who already received pensions, were registered, and then already started the mechanism when a person had to provide information, confirmation, yes, information that he does not receive a pension there, in the temporarily occupied territories, there was an exchange of pension cases, the law enforcement environment reacted very negatively to this, and the people themselves complained about it, because in fact it was... personal data that moved between

countries that are at war, this bill, i can't say that it will definitely improve the current situation, but we see it as a first step towards lifting restrictions to receive a pension by residents of the temporarily occupied territory of crimea, unfortunately, not many people are actually moving now due to the full-scale invasion and the long-term by the way that must be overcome from the territory of crimea to the territory under the control of ukraine, but there are such people, there are those people who have not been able to receive a pension all this time, because after the large-scale invasion , all diplomatic ties with the russian federation were severed, and people became hostages of the situation, now this bill will unlock this possibility, there is more the preparation of by-laws is expected, i am talking about the government's decision. e, which should prescribe the procedure, where and how and in what way a person should

apply. well, really, this is what i wanted to ask, and when and where to come, and if before the large-scale invasion, citizens of ukraine came to kherson, the kherson region, and where the office of the permanent representation of the president of ukraine in crimea worked, and now there is simply no way, that is, where people to people to come to... kyiv, directly to the office, pension representative offices, no, we are not a pension fund, these will be designated pension administrations, i think that the pension fund takes care of this very issue, as far as i know, it will be possible to apply to any pension, territorial pension department, but we are waiting for the development of a solution to the government, it should be written right there, the main thing is that... restrictions have been removed and this system should work, the legislation simply specifies that

a mechanism should be developed within a certain period, so we are waiting for it. ugh. let's talk about the crimean people, who are forced to be under occupation, now , how is life in crimea, i read such information that during the 10 years of occupation of crimea , russia condemned 320 residents due to political motives and are condemned, including for such things. for example, performed a ukrainian song in public, or wrote something wrong in social networks, or elements of the colors of the ukrainian flag in water. he was seen and someone wrote a denunciation, is everything so surreal in crimea now, what facts do you record and how can you fight it? yes, unfortunately, we do record such facts, er, here i think it is also worth paying attention to the fact that there are several types of liability to which the aggressor state in the temporarily occupied territory is held, what you are talking about

is criminal liability, some of these people are those who... "prisoners, we consider them to be people who are illegally deprived of their personal freedom by the aggressor state according to some articles, and this has been happening since the beginning of the temporary occupation, and what is more, what concerns the resistance - this is precisely when a person has already repeatedly committed administrative offenses and was arrested to criminal liability, we have also currently registered about 800 administrative cases of enforcement. fines for the so-called discrediting of the armed forces of the russian federation, before the broadcast, when i was watching, at the moment, somewhere around 21.6 million russian rubles have been collected in the form of fines just for such violations, that is, there is also music here, we know of cases when it was delayed a woman, because she has

a manicure that looks like the ukrainian flag, for listening to music, for... for reposting, for some information or some an image that, according to the occupying authorities, can be regarded as support for the armed forces of ukraine, there is a case just after the pseudo-elections in the temporarily occupied territory of crimea, a woman was detained for writing on a ballot: "we are waiting for the armed forces". that is, for such cases, people are detained, prosecuted to varying degrees, either administratively or criminally. and fines, and, if i am not mistaken, recently there have been a lot of fines against activists of crimean solidarity, and not only of this article regarding the discrediting of the russian army, and it even started to happen that they come with an administrative case, and the discrediting of the rosarmy for the sake of putin, and then

they find in the house of the person who is being searched, some weapons or... some cartridges, artillery or others, and then open a criminal case again, so we recorded about 780 such facts in administrative proceedings for discrediting the armed forces of the russian federation, these are exactly the fines you are talking about, is there any selectivity here, if look at the ethnic, religious origin of the detainees, is there... a bias towards the detention of the crimean tatar muslims, and are the muslim slavs equally detained , including the ukrainians? well, look, i would say that there is no specific selectivity, or there is no logical approach, because the actions that are taken are, as i

said earlier, for anything that they consider a threat to themselves with.. of political prisoners , we count 218 political prisoners, 135 of them are crimean tatars, these are the ones who have been detained and held in places of detention since 2014, if we talk about administrative cases, for example, then here we conducted for ourselves, this is quite such an interesting statistic that about... 40% of those who are brought to administrative responsibility, for example, women, that is, this means that almost every friend detained, or the one with respect to whom an administrative protocol was drawn up, is a woman, regarding some other disagreements there, we did not collect such information, with the general position that detainers can detain

anyone and for anything, well, really the situation now with political prisoners. it is very difficult, because we see how the russian occupiers are phasing out the crimean tatars, not only those detained there under the articles of terrorism and so on, simply to other colonies, for example, yesterday it became known that the russian occupiers transferred rustem sheikhaliyev to the siberian colonies and political prisoners tell us that the conditions of detention there are very difficult, and we know that, for example, in the past. last year, dzhemil gafarov, yes, a crimean tatar political prisoner, simply died in the russian prisons, because of this is not simply an inhuman attitude. russian occupiers, how is the situation with these issues now, for example, is the issue being discussed with the turkish side, regarding the release of our political prisoners, because

we see how the russian occupiers, jailers simply treat our political prisoners, and we can already say that they are simply killed in prison, such as dzhemily gafarov. yes, i think that it is worth explaining here, including why they are... so far, because the russian federation actually follows several goals, the first is the goal severing any ties with relatives or those who can support these political prisoners, since it is very far and you need to get to these places of detention by plane and agree this meeting with the head of this institution in advance, this is the first, secondly those articles for which they detain and then convict these people with... see very long terms, in accordance with the legal reality of the russian federation, people who receive such significant terms,

special places of detention are provided for them, which, as a rule , are very far away, so here if specifically to them and apply such articles to send as far as possible, regarding the changes, i do not know this information at the moment, i think that this is more a matter of those of our bodies that deal with exchanges or take care of these issues, for my part, i can say that we we are constantly conducting an information campaign regarding violations of the rights of residents of the temporarily occupied territory, including these illegal detentions, we are constantly communicating with our international partners and talking about... about including these persons in various resolutions, so that these voices and these people are heard, regarding the places of detention, we constantly communicate with relatives in order to

make such information ee about the terrible conditions of reception, including so that the international community can respond to this , knowing about this, because the situation with gaferov is simply extremely egregious, since this... was a man already in his old age, he had chronic diseases even before his detention, and these are just the conditions of receipt and really led to the fact that he died. ugh. well, it was just you know, the situation with sheriff malkoch and the ombudsman, the turkish ombudsman, who came to kyiv and even he took part in the ivtar with the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky, and then had a meeting with representatives of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people and directly with the permanent. representative of the president, and as you know, there they talked about exactly that, about the possibility of negotiations between the russian shoemaker and

the turkish shoemaker regarding the release of our political prisoners, because we already have such experience with akhtem cheygoz and ilmi umerov, and now a lot of questions are coming to our editorial offices from the families of political prisoners regarding these negotiations, i agree. that ms. olga does not take part in these negotiations, so she cannot clarify this story for us, but thank you, ms. gults, for telling me in more detail, ms. olga, if we talk about washing the bowls of crimeans, especially children, crimeans, about how ukrainians are made russians, bearers of the ideas of the russian world, how does it happen, where this propaganda is stitched, we saw some... some absolutely photographs of how children become on his knees and in the shape of a pentagram of some kind, and to

celebrate or mark the day, as the russians are now trying to commit genocide of the russian or soviet people from the german-fascist invaders, well, such, well, this is not the same as a savok, well, straight up some stalinist times, it seems to me that this did not happen even in stalin's times. such propaganda and washing of cities, what innovations in this direction are the russians using? well , actually they're deepening this story, because recently there was a youth event that they were there for tried to attract representatives of international foreign countries, the youth union or whatever it was called, they are trying... to include crimea in the all-russian context, including in communication with those countries that still somehow

communicate with the russian federation. organizing joint events, in fact the situation is stable-bad, here we always talk about the army, about the militarization of education, now a lot of people deal with educational issues - in the government, certain decisions were made in this regard and also researched information that is taught there in the temporarily occupied territories, then all training is permeated with propaganda. in any of its manifestations, these are educational hours, here is precisely the question of memorialization, since memorial plaques are opened for those people who, for example, studied at school in crimea, and then died in wars, the war of russia against ukraine on the territory of ukraine and require that the children go directly to the parade ground and be ceremoniously present at the opening of these boards, that is why

various... methods of influence are used here, unfortunately, it is really children, as a category that is the most can perceive this history, and the russian federation has always bet on children, they are of course very, very influenced by the reality imposed by the russian federation, but on the other hand, it gives us the opportunity to understand what challenges the state will face after. occupation of the territory and what needs to be done now, to communicate, what programs, what projects to implement in order to return young people, to return children from the occupied territories, and here we can actually talk not only about crimea, because crimea was the territory where the russian federation made, implemented its project, and then simply began to spread it to new temporarily occupied territories, because the same story with

passportization... the same story with, for example , forcing you to obtain a passport, and in that case you will be given some kind of medical or social assistance, i.e. all this is repeated, they also began to burn books and throw them away in the newly occupied territories and introduce their program, i.e. they just what they did in crimea, they are now spreading to the newly occupied territories, that is, can we talk about the factor of the lost generation, because the children... who were born in 2014 are already 10 years old, and those who were 10 are already 20, and this constant militarization of children's consciousness, it has very serious consequences, how are we going to fight it, you know, i wouldn't call it a lost generation, i don't know, maybe because of the prism of the fact that i have been working with this topic for a very long time and in general i have been dealing with the topic since 2015, it doesn't seem to me... it's

a lost generation, i just uh uh i have this idea that these groups people, children, they should be, uh, just that group when, where the public policy should be directed, these are the people who need support, and actually, uh, every year i help with the induction campaign, the implementation of the induction company in order to so that crimeans... come, enroll in ukrainian educational institutions, i communicate with these people, and i see that they want, can, and they have the ability to adapt, including this concerns the issue of language, this concerns the issue of in general, life is here, since the child who arrives may not be himself considers a child, but she comes as a young person, she already comes without her parents, and without the possibility to go home

and see her relatives at any moment, she has... she has to adapt here, so they do it quickly, i see their successes , so i cannot conclude that this is a lost generation. ms. olga, thank you, olga koryshka, deputy permanent representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea was with us, we will talk about admission to ukrainian universities for crimeans in our next issues definitely, we are finishing up today, this is the beraber together program, a program that is made jointly by two televisions. the crimean tatar first crimean tatar tv channel atr and the all-ukrainian espresso tv channel, and i , andriy yanitskyi, and gulsum khalilova, my colleague, were in the studio. thank you very much. goodbye.