greetings, i'm andrii yanitskyi and gulsum khalilova, today i'm in the bereber program, which in ukrainian means together, we tell the main news of crimea together, this is a joint project of the crimean tatar tv channel atr and the espresso tv channel. silyam aleykum, congratulations and on the air of the atr tv channel, on the air of the tv channel. joint project, as my colleague andrii told me, it really is a name, it was chosen for a reason, because we know and history knows, history shows that only together, only beraber can be defeated and overcome the enemy, and today all of ukraine is doing it, today, all citizens of ukraine, and really, first of all, our military, the armed forces of ukraine, in particular. the 48th osh named after

noman chilibikhan is currently overcoming and defeating the russian invaders in the southern direction, so support them, you can always by the qr code that you will see on your screens, and our directors will show, now our guys need drones for the fpf, so you you can support really now using the qr code you see on your screens, and we are part of this program. we keep talking about crimea, we continue to tell about the most relevant events that happened this week on the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula and indeed about the actions of the armed forces of ukraine on the territory of crimea and against russian military strategic objects, because this week we know that the ukrainian armed forces attacked russian military facilities at the airfield in... jankoi also heard

explosions in the sak region, in the yevpatoria region, that is, in kezlev, and in the terkhankut region. yes, gulsom khanum said on the air that she was not ready to say much, but she immediately stopped the initiative we, after all, are not the main characters in this program, we invite experts who know more than us, and traditionally the first block is devoted to military actions, oleksiy hetman. of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, is in touch with us. mr. oleksiy, congratulations. salam aleikum. i welcome you to the family, especially you gulsun. we haven't seen you for a long time, we already saw you once on the crimean channel. it is very good that you are now with us on the express channel. thank you very much, mr. oleksia , with you on the express channel. mr. oleksii, the occupiers intensified. the construction of defense

structures in crimea, does it mean that they are waiting for something, or is it just money laundering, corruption, as is customary in russia? well, first of all, they steal in russia, yes, we know in one word, if we describe what is happening there, some of the buildings they build there, they cause, well, what is less surprising when they started on the southern coast a year ago , to build some fortifications right somewhere near the beach. well, i think it was money laundering and in order to somehow create tension inside crimea to support, in the sense that their readiness to repulse our offensive was at the maximum level. to hope that these fortifications will somehow be able to influence the actions that we are going to take there, well , it is not worth it, i think that we all understand this very well, and if crimea ... we will still

make a decision to release , well, i would like the beginning of the liberation this year, then in order for the crimea to be liberated, forgive me for being a little toftologically, we need to destroy the kerch bridge, one of logistics routes of the russians, and of course the isthmus through which the road goes, well, through dozhinkoya, through melitopol, through volnovakha through. well, from the russian federation, and the patch that we have near krynyk, it is not actively expanding yet, but we have been holding it for more than six months, and i am sure that the knowledge we have acquired is more accurate experience, how it should be done, like our special units of the main intelligence agency, which, well, it’s called a team, who know how to do... from the water, they

trained in great britain for at least six months, they were already experienced people, not those who were newly mobilized, but nevertheless they underwent additional training. preparation, so we expect that after krynyk we will be able to move towards skidovskyi, the armenian side, well, the main thing is to cut off crimea from external supplies, turn it into a conditional island, destroy the air defense equipment located there, the means of communication that we are actively we are doing, to destroy airfields, jinkoi saka, about that too, you just said, then and any fortifications that will be built there, they will not matter. then that military group, which will be left without anything and any supply from the bateryuk part of the russian federation , will be largely doomed. the patients understand this very well, they were preparing for it, but they did not want to do anything significant, nor did they even want

to convert large landing ships into transports to bring something, realizing that the logistics arteries could be blocked, but i think that our and the main intelligence management and service security of ukraine, especially the general staff... well the supreme commander-in-chief clearly understands what needs to be done and is gradually taking these actions. you know, mr. oleksiy, i really like reading the russian occupying, crimean telegram channels, well , i like it, because they are panicking there, especially after the strikes of the armed forces of ukraine with weapons attacks in crimea and on russian military facilities, and you know, they write about , that ukraine's tactics are now such that it destroys russia and weakens russia. air defense in order to during the inauguration of the russian leader putin, and simply hit the kerch bridge, how do you like this story, can we really expect such a gift

for vatashka from the russians, well, not many showed up, the inauguration is planned for this may, which is not quite legitimate, according to the european union. the president, well, it would be very good, you know, for the russians, the russians like to adjust some actions to certain dates, it is their nature, well, it is not quite right from a military point of view, but sometimes for that, well, war is a continuation of politics, in others means, and she has including necessarily a political component, if on october 7, just in time for the inauguration , the kerch bridge is hit, i think that the effect will be very, very serious, you can imagine, this is a holiday, when it is a holiday for us, when a message will come on the day of putin's inauguration in all russian publications that the kerch bridge has already been destroyed, although i think that if we do it on this very day, then the russian

mass media will report about it, well, not earlier, somewhere after may 10-11, because for them the ninth sacred date, the seventh is also almost sacred. give and to tell such news these days, well, it will be almost impossible for them, well, as far as i remember, the first attack on the kerch bridge was also connected with the date, it seems that putin's birthday was there, there was plus or minus one day, and this birthday on october 6, if or on the seventh, wait, on the seventh, regularly, regularly greetings are given to the front by our armed forces, and there are many such interesting dates, you are right that if... not may 7, then maybe may 9, not 9 , so in the summer, but there are already signals that the crimean bridge, the kerch bridge will be destroyed, not only the armed forces of ukraine are sent, we saw, for example, how the lithuanian ambassador to sweden published a post on

the internet with the hint that it is better to take pictures near the bridge now, because in the future such an opportunity may not present itself, that is , western partners in... countries support such developments and know about such plans and will no longer object. lithuania is our reliable partner, they are our friends, and when they make such statements, well, you know, well , after all, yes, we repeat that war is also politics by other means, but pressure, emotional there must be pressure, political pressure on the enemy, especially if it comes from our partners, from those countries. members, this is very good, and we are now seeing this on the screen of another publication, the ukrainian diplomat already hinted that the kerch bridge may disappear, and depicted various forms of bridges that exist in the world, where kerch is written, there

is no bridge, therefore, the signals are more than transparent, but the question is how it will be done, the russian newspaper kommersant published the details. about how kerchensky was blown up i realized for the first time that it was solid fuel, solid explosives, or solid rocket fuel, which was transported by truck, wrapped in polyethylene, and the second attack was already carried out by sea drones, which would be more profitable now, some kind of sabotage technique with trucks, with transport or drones or missiles? well, you know, there are only three options, how it can be done, it is an air attack, a sea attack and a sabotage attack, obviously one of them, if... say that there will be one of all three, then we will guess 100%, because there will be no others may. most likely,

a combined attack will be used, because it will be the most difficult for the russians to prevent it. and, i am sure that it will be some kind of sabotage, and of course, we are all waiting for the missiles that we have, but you can destroy the canvas on the bridge with rockets, but sometimes you have to destroy it with explosives from the water, well, although maybe if the rocket. it will definitely hit the support and it will be some kind of powerful rocket, then it is quite possible, well, two or three more rockets, then the main thing is not to cover the canvas, but not what lies on top, simply put, what it rests on must be destroyed, i am sure that when it is destroyed, it will be extremely difficult to rebuild it, especially since these, well, russians will most likely try to start some repair work. but, but destroying these repair works is easier than destroying the city,

that's why the russians understand it perfectly, well , let's see, i'm sure that the attack will be combined after all, and all three components must work at the same time, then there will be very little chance for the russians to protect . and mr. oleksiy, and what consequences will these have for the russians occupiers, well, it is clear from a political point of view that this is both for the fsb and for... ah putin, a very powerful image blow, yes, when they say that crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, and now such a blow as this was, for example, last time, it was really very powerful, but if we talk about the military point of view, what consequences will this have for the russian occupiers and how it can radically change the situation on the battlefield, both from the point of view of crimea and the southern direction , well, you know, let's not sink the aircraft carrier, it's... even possible agree, because it is really impossible to sink the peninsula directly, but if

such an aircraft carrier is left without everything necessary for its life and life support, then this aircraft carrier, as the russians say, will turn into a flying dutchman, that is, it will not be sunk, as it were, but no, he won't be able to function, how will it affect the course of hostilities, well, i'm sure that there will be some hostilities in the east... he's unlikely to be able to, even an almost sunken aircraft carrier, he's unlikely to be able to do it, the troops that are concentrated there russian and that the logistics that exist there will still remain, but there is more here, well, what will be the significance of the military, we will free a very large part of our territory, and then we will be able to build some of our strategic objects, tactical objects there objects, it may be there... we can use our aviation, we hope that it will be in the 16th, it will have an effect, but not like that, no, directly,

indirectly, on the entire front line, well , that means such the question is, they are so, well , it is not obvious, they are so voluminous, what for exactly, everything will be affected, everything will be affected at once, this is also a hybrid war, it consists of political, economic, ideological, informational and so on, all these components... and by the way, the ukrainian political leadership sent a signal, that the crimeans mobilized by the occupiers will not be brought to justice in ukraine under... these conditions, it is said that if they were forcibly mobilized, and this is a sign that ukraine clearly

understands who its enemies are, that the enemies are not the crimeans, but the residents themselves there is crimea the occupiers who seized crimea, and if it happened that crimeans could not avoid mobilization, then they can count on the fact that they will not be judged for this, if they did not take part in some... radical actions against the ukrainian armed forces , is this an important signal, well, purely psychologically, is it not time to talk about what is important at all, this is a very important signal, the fact is that when preparations for the so-called elections of president putin began in the temporarily occupied territories, including crimea , then cooking like voter lists, they once again checked where everyone is, where people of conscription age are, and after these elections were held on march 15-17, they began to mobilize people in full force according to those supposedly voter lists,

lists, to avoid mobilization, well, it was extremely hard. because there could be a very strict responsibility up to prison, up to execution, there the russians used such and such a means of punishment both within their troops and around, we heard about it, so i don't think there is a point to these people somehow to blame, there are traitors, well there are traitors in any country during any war, so those people who went with weapons in their hands to fight against. of ukraine, voluntarily or very actively being mobilized , carried out their so-called official duty, well, it is their official duty, but it is a crime to carry out a criminal order, it is also a crime, so with these people i am sure certain certain actions will be taken by our law enforcement agencies , all other people, they should not be condemned for this, on the contrary, i am sure that they

will form that base, that basis of those people, around whom the power in crimea will be formed, around whom the ukrainian power in crimea will be formed, the ukrainian-tatar power in crimea will be formed, they argue about these people, we already remember how many cases when people disappeared in crimea, especially of tatar nationality , how many different trumped-up accusations were against them, so i think that it goes, let's remember that there are our underground workers, our partisans, who help us a lot with certain data in certain... actions related to intelligence, those missiles which fly in front of roma, other things, they are not only used by us when we plan these, prepare these combat orders and plan these combat measures, that we rely only on intelligence data, or air intelligence, space intelligence, that is, on intelligence data, in including the provided intelligence of people who are very risky in different ways, but help our armed forces to free this

occupation peninsula faster, so there is internal support from the side. yes , we heard about it many times from our main intelligence department, you know, well, when you flew in the same s400 missiles, and then they said that the underground helped us a lot, well, it was just yours, maybe yours, even your acquaintances, mr. volsun, so it is possible, it can be any, but i am not sure, the russian occupiers are spreading information at the same time , that they can shoot down atakams missiles, that they shouldn't... er, the russian military is afraid of them, and the united states of america says that this is not true, so can they shoot them down or not ? no, knocking down there is a big problem, but they, they, you know, they are improving, the russians, they too they see what kind of weapons we use during the war, well, the improvement

of each and every type of equipment is very fast, taking into account, well , their capabilities and capabilities, as they should. to defend themselves, there is, yes, there is information that by using means of electronic warfare, they degrade the gps signals that guide the missiles, and the accuracy of such missiles, all the missiles, well, that we use, that use external guidance for guidance, their accuracy deteriorates and efficiency drops, well, we also expected it, we russians understand it perfectly will improve, and we also have to improve our means of attacks, which... we attack russian military facilities, well, it does not happen that some weapon used by either side becomes impossible to impress the other side, the other side jumps to conclusions and prepares very quickly, and the russians do it that way too, so to say that these missiles will also cause

the same damage as at the beginning of when we started getting them is not worth it, of course they are efficiency, well, that's... they also say in the pentagon, their effectiveness decreases, er, that is, fewer missiles hit the target precisely due to some interception capabilities in the anti-aircraft missile complex and electronic warfare means, but this does not mean that they have become unnecessary and they cannot cause significant damage to the enemy , they can, the only thing that will be needed, well, unfortunately, is to use a few percent more missiles in order to achieve the same goal as six months ago. thank you thank you, mr. oleksiy choksagl, for taking the time to join our broadcast. oleksiy getsman was in direct contact with us. reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, russian-ukrainian veteran. war, and we have a short break, yes, andriy, yes, 5 minutes for advertising, and we will meet you again in the beraber together program, this is the main news of crimea, a joint

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over nazism. poppies of memory. 10 years. salam aleikum. we welcome you to the joint project of the atr tv channel and the tv channel. i am gulsom galil working for you in the studio. and my colleague andrii yanitskyi, congratulations, congratulations to everyone, we are talking about the main crimean news and we are not talking about ourselves, we invite experts, today the second expert in our program is olga koryshka, deputy permanent the representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea, mrs. olga, congratulations, congratulations vaslya malik, congratulations, eh, let's focus on humanitarian issues, the first block was more about military issues, and to you... me, let's talk about pensions, the verkhovna rada of ukraine, crimea, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted a law that simplifies the restoration of pensions for crimeans, for

ukrainians who move from crimea to the territory controlled by kyiv, eh, do you know about these simplifications, why they are important or unimportant for crimeans, well and now, how much i understand that not many crimeans move, this is already preparation for release. crimea, when it will be necessary to integrate crimeans into crimean society, is it possible to consider this signal in this way? yes, this is an important issue precisely regarding pensions, since this draft law, it was expected for a long time, the issue of pension payments for residents of the temporarily occupied territory of crimea, it has been standing since the very beginning of the temporary occupation, there were several attempts to regulate it. this question, all this time this situation looked like a person moves from the territory of crimea apply to the pension fund branch with an application for

renewal of payment, that is, we are talking only about those pensioners who became such before 2014, those who already received pensions, were registered, and then the mechanism was already started when a person had to give information, confirmation, and information that she does not receive a pension. there, in the temporarily occupied territory, there was an exchange of pension cases, and the legal environment reacted very negatively to this, and the people themselves complained about it, since in fact it was a question of personal data that moved between countries that are at war, this draft law, i cannot say that it will definitely improve the current situation, but we are considering it. as the first step towards lifting restrictions on receiving pensions for residents of the temporarily occupied territory of crimea. not many

people are really moving now, unfortunately, due to the full-scale invasion. and it is a long road that must be overcome from the territory of crimea to the territory under the control of ukraine, but there are such people, there are those people who all this time did not have the opportunity to receive a pension, since after the large-scale invasion all diplomatic ties with the russian federation were severed, and people became hostages of the situation, now this draft law will unlock this possibility, there is still waiting for the preparation of subordinate legal acts. i am talking about the decisions of the government, which should prescribe the procedure, where and how and in what way a person should apply, well, this is really what i wanted to ask, and when and where to come and, if before the large-scale invasion, citizens of ukraine came to kherson, the kherson region, and where the office of the permanent representation of the president of ukraine in crimea worked, and now there is simply no such opportunity, that is, where people are with people.

come to kyiv directly to the office of a professional representation? no, we are not a pension fund, these will be designated pension administrations, i think that the pension fund is taking care of this very issue, as far as i am not aware, it will be possible to apply to any pension, territorial pension department, but we are waiting for the development of the government's decision, that's where it should be. the main thing that the restrictions are lifted and this system should work. the legislation simply states that a mechanism must be developed within a certain period, so we are waiting for it. ugh. let's talk about the crimeans, who are forced to be under occupation, now, how life is in crimea. i read such information that during the 10 years of occupation of crimea by russia, 320 residents were convicted for political reasons and are being convicted. including for such

things, for example, performing a ukrainian song in public, or writing something wrong in social networks, or elements of colors the ukrainian flag was seen on clothes and someone wrote a denunciation, is everything so surreal in crimea now, what facts do you record and how can you fight it? yes, unfortunately, we do record such facts, here i think it is worth paying attention to the fact that there are several types of responsibility to which the aggressor state in the temporarily occupied territory is attracted, what you are talking about is criminal liability, some of these people are those who are political prisoners, we consider them people who are deprived of personal illegal of personal freedom by the aggressor state, according to some articles, and this has been happening since the beginning of the temporary occupation, more that

concerns... opposition is precisely when a person has already repeatedly committed administrative offenses and is brought to criminal liability, also at the moment we recorded about 800 administrative cases on the collection of fines for the so-called discrediting of the armed forces of the russian federation, before the broadcast, when i watched, at the moment, somewhere around 21.6 million russian rubles have been collected in kind. tariffs precisely for such violations, that is, there is also music here, we know of cases when a woman was detained because she has a manicure that looks like the ukrainian flag, for listening to music, for liking, for reposting, for some information or some image that in the opinion of the occupying authorities, there is, can be considered as support for the armed forces of ukraine, there is a case just after the pseudo-elections

in the temporarily occupied territories of crimea. a woman was detained for writing "we are waiting for the armed forces" on the bulletin board. that is, for such cases, people are detained and brought to liability to varying degrees, either administrative or criminal. and fines, and, if i am not mistaken, recently there have been a lot of fines against activists of crimean solidarity and not only for this article regarding the discrediting of the russian army, and it even became... it happens that they come with an administrative case, and the discrediting of the russian army putin, and then they find at the home of a person who is being searched, and there are some weapons there, or just some cartridges, artillery or other, and then they open a criminal case again, so we recorded about 780 such facts in administrative proceedings for

discrediting the armed forces. of the russian federation, these are exactly the fines you are talking about.