now, by the way, here is this terrorist attack, it was really organized by people who want to achieve something, is it organized by the russian special services, or yes, even more interestingly, and this terrorist attack, which is organized by those people who want to achieve something, was it generally known to the russian special services, they specifically allowed it to take place, or did they not know about something, or you can ask the question like this: or maybe some part. did not know something, but some part knew and decided that with this act of terrorism, in this way, she could call into question the competence of her competitors, let's say how eternal this competition between the federal security service and the main intelligence agency is, and when there were terrorist attacks during the chechen war, i always had to meet with some of my sources who explained to me that this could be a real terrorist attack , and this is a part. of the struggle between the main intelligence

directorate of the general staff and the federal security service, because the main intelligence directorate wants to put the federal security service in an awkward position in front of the leadership, because here are these people who this they planned and carried out the terrorist attack, they are connected to the fsb, and these people are connected to gru, these people are controlled here, and these people are controlled there, and when you begin to understand all this, study biographies, i specifically sat then, studied for months all the biographies of all the participants in the events that... you understand, where did they come from, why did they suddenly appear, who was a field commander, who was some kind of minister, and from this side, connections, all of this should sit down and draw these connections diagrams on your hands, and then eventually something becomes clear to you, but not completely, and it's the same here too the situation itself, because we really don't really understand what happened, basically, if they get a message from the americans, they can't... don't understand, they're not

idiots, at least not putin himself, huh, but at least the people a little lower, that it can happen, if they are told that this is an imminent terrorist attack, they can, in principle, create conditions under which there will be no mass measures of any kind, uh, for a certain time, they are able to invent something, blow something up somewhere without victims, and here's how now sobyanin has announced... that there will be no concerts and so on, that's how to do it, but without a real terrorist attack, well, yes, that is, you understand that they can do anything, organize some attack by some group of fictional militants on some object, some shootout, no one died, or someone died there, it does not matter meaning, these are five people of some kind, and in connection with this, we are canceling mass events there until april 1 or may 1 and higher education, and during this time we are conducting prevention. well, they didn't do it,

so they were basically interested in this terrorist action, that's why now it will be necessary to understand why we will only understand this sometimes, what they will do after this terrorist act, how they want to act in new conditions, this is the second such moment, the third moment, they may be interested in creating an appropriate atmosphere in society, i remember i agree with... always the atmosphere after terrorist acts in moscow, it changed the mood of society very much, it is not even about the political consequences, which were also always significant, it is about how, in principle, people began to react outside of what they had political ones looks, i remember nordost, such a feeling of absoluteness. helplessness, this is specifically

so, a person cannot even control himself, here you cover this story, here you are standing, here is a street, here is a theater center, people are sitting there, well, in principle, the same as you, they cannot get out of there, their they could kill you, you could be in their place, you could go to a concert, ugh, well, it's a hard feeling, people start to want it all to end sooner, so that they don't live in this feeling, or the explosions of houses, the feeling of danger... absolutely terrible how much you you don't convince yourself logically, but do you remember , we talked with colleagues there, i told you , listen, well, this is happening in sleeping areas, we understand who is doing it, it cannot be done without the control of the fsb, they will blow it up precisely the sleeping areas of moscow, not the center, in principle we are completely safe here, but you convince yourself, and you think , it is not enough, we cannot be sure, we are not members of the fsb board there, to be sure that our the house will not be blown up, and that, and i want all this... to end, because you

you go to bed, you don't know if you'll wake up, it's hard to live that long, and they speculate on this, they know this, because this is essentially what they work with the psychologists of these mass on... it's not just like that, they get a report a note with an analysis of moods as a result of certain actions. the second such moment, the third moment, which is connected with the fact that they always rely on historical experience in principle, it is not their inventions, here in the russian empire, the security department, it worked with terrorists, well, we are with you in principle . we live in a city that was one of the capitals of russian terror, but it was not just terror, it was controlled terror, they watched most of the people, they had agents in the militant organizations, after all yevnoazev, the head of the militant organization the party of sirs, he was an agent of the third department, one of

the main ones, or roman malinovskyi, one of the deputies of the state duma of the bolshevik party, who was also involved in some of their military operations there, was an agent of the third security department, they all cooperated, huh. and they could specially them to dictate certain acts of terrorism against certain persons or against certain structures, which in turn provoked the reaction of the population, it was an internal struggle at the court of nicholas ii, then the soviet regime, well they who, first of all, they controlled all this, in all, this whole flywheel of repression, then already in the new conditions they used accusations of terrorism to fight against competitors, but we understand in principle that... in soviet times, in the 1930s, in fact, all these opposition movements and even in the bolshevik parties were overcome, but here every time there were trials of the trotskyist terrorist center, the law of the trotskyist terrorist center, terrorists everywhere, saboteurs everywhere, they created

a sense of panic in the population, because well , imagine, well, you live here, you live in some house there, so to speak, you have neighbors all the time they take away, they come at night as terrorists, it's not... they just take away enemies, they're terrorists, they planned to blow something up, maybe your own apartment, they live here and live here and there, and there, my god, comrade stalin, protect if not me will be arrested, then i just have to dream before my arrest to be protected, there is also such a situation that we live in this house, we want to be protected, in the end we may turn out to be the ones who need to be arrested in order to protect others, wonderful the atmosphere, putin, well... paranoia , things like that, they create paranoia, because if we are at a distance from moscow, and we live with these anxieties and problems of war, but imagine that you are now in moscow, here you are in this step, all

these halls were 10 times, went to concerts, you you understand that now everything has become dangerous, you do not know if it will happen next time, you see how the special services operate. ugh, no way, you understand that no one will save you, and you don’t know how you can, or do you need to, change your lifestyle, who are these people who walk next to you on the streets, this is still a ukrainian trace, so they may be slavs, everything was so simple for you before, this wrong-looking caucasian, he is most likely a terrorist, you have to go the other way, and how to protect yourself if here ukrainians, this could be your neighbor here. may be an agent of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, horror, well, that is , an atmosphere of unhealthy paranoia and mistrust of each other is created in society, that is, it is no longer just an external enemy, it is total mistrust, that is what someone already said

, it seems, the head of this committee on the defense of the state duma, or someone else, that there is nothing wrong if you talk about the suspicious actions of your neighbors, it was already heard on the screens today, you see, you actually... reconstruct their intentions, so in fact they are saying, how can it be, be used, principles, like the murder of sergei kirov by joseph stalin, well, before the murder of kirov, stalin did not even think about such possibilities that opened up before him, about mass repressions, about the fact that several former members of the party's politburo can be shot there at once, these people were political opponents, but they were for the country, well, how can i tell you. well, they were people from whom it was impossible to destroy, because they were symbols of the revolution, well, yes, they were wrong, they lost power, but you cannot raise a hand against them after the 34th year,

there were no problems anymore, you could kill anyone, stalin killed the relatives of his own members of the politburo, imprisoned their wives, these people came, then continued to work as there is a wife chairman of the presidium of the verkhovna rada of the soviet union kalinin was in prison, he continues to perform the duties of the nominal head of the state, well, this is the same as the law of the minister's wife after the war. affairs of the soviet union molotev, she sat in prison, in a camp, he continued to work, to have a sitting politburo come , as if nothing is happening, this is absolutely special, you know, the taste of power, this is something that few people can afford, well, even dictators, not every dictator can put the wife of his deputy in prison, and without any risk to himself, he will still say: oh, thank you, well, she must have been wrong, so, well, here is the gist... of this whole situation, and this is of course a huge problem for our

understanding of the consequences of this whole process, it is really a serious problem, i would like to clarifying the question, it is interesting that you suggested that if, let's say, the united states and partners warned, but warned a certain part of the fsb there, let's say, someone was not warned, and all this may actually demonstrate to us that different, no, no, no , they could, it doesn’t work like that, they warned by instance, they warned absolutely specifically, i can even imagine how this warning happens at the level of contacts between the central intelligence agency of the united states of america and the foreign intelligence service of russia naryshkin owes this information to the federation . to bring to the secretary of the security council of the russian federation mykola patroshev, and mykola patroshev is obliged

to bring this situation to putin, but the question of what is the accompanying text, ugh, on ryshkin to patrushev and patrushev to putin, ugh, and what is the accompanying text of those people , which this or that warning is transmitted to ryshkin from the americans, the americans do not necessarily meet in order to give a cross. narichin himself needs to meet with him william beers, uh, so it's just a document that goes through instances, and each of those documents is accompanied by a comment from the person responsible for a particular line of work. we do not know which document putin got acquainted with as a result. you need to read not the american document, but what was signed by patryshev and the accompanying documents to patryshev's letter, just like that. how should you read what naryshkin wrote and the accompanying documents to naryshkin's letter, it is not one

page, it is you there document, all of this, all of this matter, it can be 50-60 files, if we assume that this terrorist attack happened because , again, the competition of the institution, is it good for us or bad, well, of course, listen, this is good, because it shows that this system is like this, i would say important. who cares, but on the other hand it is bad , because it prompts him to make inadequate decisions, you understand, if you putin brings some documentation that does not allow him to make adequate decisions, he himself is not a very adequate person, to be honest , his worldview is not very adequate, this must be understood, we see it, on the other hand, if he works with documents that are more or less realistic, he has no way out, when you are the president of the state, you work with the documents that are given to you, you can't... afford to sit down and get on the internet and read and google what to do in

such a situation, because it's a matter of trust, and you're unlikely to order yourself an alternative examination, especially if you're a person who is arranged in such a way that like volodymyr putin, or like volodymyr zelensky, you know it is also very important that we can have such a situation that our president is working with this documentation, which is available to him, he cannot afford the luxury and say, and i read that... still and always the question is , to the extent that the president appoints to certain positions competent people capable of creating documentation that will create an adequate picture of reality for him, if he is not capable, then he is actually a hostage of his own inability to select personnel whom he can trust, but who are not capable of competently assessing reality, and it's ukrainian, here it is in in principle , the ukrainian state management model is currently the worst model in russia. because there really is a struggle between these ambitions, and the issue there is not only in

competence, in a conscious desire to distort reality, so that the first person sees the reality that, let's say, is beneficial to patroshev, and that this reality, relatively speaking, is cut off from the decision-making of the conditional on ryshkin, well, this is a difficult gambit, and when you are putin, and you study these documents on... you have to think that putin received a file about the possibility of a terrorist act in moscow and said: "go to hell, it's all an american fiction." no, he was sitting, he is generally a person who... works with documents, this is his life in general, what does he do all his life, he works with documents, he doesn’t know anything else, so he studied it and on the basis of that , who studied, concluded, by the way, on february 20-24, 2022, he sat and worked with documents before making all these decisions, long and carefully, more than one

day and more than one night, but all this the information has been selected in such a way that you like, so that the people... who wrote to her would not be afraid that he would not like her, and exactly the same . here, you understand, what is the state security committee of the soviet union in general, so that we clearly understand, on the one hand, it is a special service, on the other hand, it is a special service that was beaten on the head by communist cadres throughout the history of its existence, that is, i am yezhov there, i people's commissar, i am like this, suddenly they took me and shot me, i am a beria, i generally manage the whole country, i was taken and shot, and in the end they shot one other, there they call everything the head of the state security committee, they say to him: comrade sirov, you must work in such a way as to be useful to the party, because otherwise you will go where your beloved comrades izhovi went, you know where they all are, and so every head of the kgb, or deputies who were in general by sub-party workers, and this is a structure, that is, which

means that we have all the information, but we have to inform the superiors so that the superiors ugh. was delighted with us, so that it does not growl at us, the superiors should not see this reality, which the superiors do not will like it, because the guilty will not be these little people, but we, we, that means we will give him what we need, and it is also a huge problem that putin reads what he wants to read, they have learned all the years of their existence write only documents that the superiors like to write, it is strange that there is no longer a communist party in... and they continue to work like this because they do not know how to do otherwise, this is such an organization, and they are their own traps, they themselves run the state and themselves they write to themselves what should not annoy them, and i have always been interested in i was interested when i worked in moscow, when putin was already the president, i asked some questions to some people who worked with him, i

say, well, he knows all this, he wrote all this himself. so all his life, how can it be that he became prime minister and president, these people with whom he worked all his life write to him what he himself always wrote, why does he trust this, and why should he be trusted, if he does not trust anyone but them, what should he do, if you are a colonel of the state security committee of the soviet union, you know for sure that people generally divide life into three categories. these are officers of special services, these are people recruited by special services and people who will be recruited by special services, there is no one else, and people who are not officers, who are recruited or will be recruited, they are fools, because only a fool is not an officer of the state security committee of the soviet union , that normal people,

normal with normal thinking, with normal values, men, they are officers of the state security committee, and... but where can a man be, that's still different, that or or just some kind of thing that cannot be analyzed, some of them are just civilians, it’s just that we don’t consider them to be people, they go there, they say something, that they are some kind of bandits, well, it doesn’t matter, you are more, when i’m still a part of the criminal world in uniform, or are they patient, military, whom we generally despise, because they have weapons, they are in uniforms, but they can’t even, we can tell them as simply as these dogs, let’s go, uh, let’s go give me a lick, and it will be done by a person who knows how to drive a tank or, i don't know, a missile installation, and if i were, i would launch this missile installation at the kremlin, and it simply obeys, and they still have incredible contempt for the army, ugh, which

means contempt for the army, so there are problems with this main intelligence officers of the general staff, who are real intelligence officers, and they are analysts. they are also military, and what is that, what are jackets, these are not people, a real man, he must be not just a scout, he must be able to shoot, kill, ugh, and here there is a problem between the main the intelligence department of the general staff and the federal security service, this is also an eternal problem, another problem when we talk about terrorist attacks, it is the relationship of all these two organizations with the ministry of internal affairs of the russian federation, from the point of view and yes. sb and the main clearinghouse, policemen are not people at all, because they are just something, i don't know how to call it. intelligently on the air, well, it's clear there that it, which walks the earth collecting this money from idiots, well , it's good, when it's shared, it's good, but what is it?

but this policeman, he feels like a white bone compared to these people, because he thinks that he leads the people, they sneak among the people, he is actually the master of the people, remember, there were cases when the policemen just shot people there in supermarkets, it is possible , it’s just like that... because i can do anything, you’ve never seen it, but i saw how this precinct officer comes to your apartment in moscow, like the owner, like the owner of your apartment, he sits down opposite you, what’s the matter , documents, come on, show what you're doing here, i'm here live, i'm registered here, this is my property, come on, i'll follow, i don't like your place of birth, your date of birth... people who are in these, and he and you are not, that is, you don't really understand how to fight with this, ugh, i was at one time, when i

was just living, well, i had accreditation from the ministry of foreign affairs and that's it, i thought that i was completely protected, nothing happened until the moment i applied according to some authorities, he called the press service of the moscow police station or the press service of the ministry of internal affairs and said: "listen, i'm a journalist, i'm being terrorized by your district inspector, is it possible somehow to make him go to someone else, here and not to me, and they, but these, well, but i can, being a journalist, do it , and if you can't, you know for sure that this is how they feel, why should they respect some incomprehensible people there who are involved in some organizations, and they also have a department at the ministry of internal affairs, and they believe that the department that deals with this prevention of terrorism and of all this, he is more important than the fsb. so each of these gangs are gangs in uniform, thugs, real, she might want to put her foot down, the other one, so that someone falls and

the master understands how important we are, uh, we, and it's an eternal struggle, and so when something real is starting, here i am, these are not arriving, these are not arriving, these are not you. everyone says, how could they drive 40 minutes, when crocus city hall is specifically adjacent to the complex of buildings of the government, the moscow region and judicial institutions, which is protected by the first, i would say, there, right on the territory, there is all this, a police unit, with a special purpose, because it is the government of the moscow region, it is a serious organization, which is according to moscow standards. should be seriously guarded, where all these people were, there is a special police unit nearby, they didn't come either, that is, they didn't

come because they were just drinking on friday, i don't believe, they didn't come because they wanted the fsb officers to come first, uh, to put them first under all of this, it's absolutely, because it's their jurisdiction of terrorist attacks, and we'll see let them come, let them not do it, let them die, and then we will come and... demo order rosgvardiya, and they, each of them, when he sits and hears this, he thinks not how to send an outfit, but how to do so that a competitor appeared first at a difficult moment, and i arrived when i could look good, well, there are many such moments, and every time you analyze these things, who, what, who heads the staff, what kind of it. has, when nordost was, well, the headquarters of the ministry of internal affairs, which ultimately organized this terrible

the operation was led by the deputy minister of internal affairs of the russian federation, volodymyr vasiliev, who was, one might say, the soul of this operation, so he, everyone thought that it was catastrophic. the situation for him, well , i'm sorry, i'm sorry, what is sergey, volodymyr vasiliev, doing now, he leads the faction of the united russia party in the state duma, you understand, he deserves it, well, because if you take part in such a mess, your punishment the era is secured, vasiliev, exactly. because he took part in this operation on dubrovka, which upset putin a lot it is important, because from it the strengthening of authoritarianism began, uh, he secured

an absolutely unsinkable career for himself for... for a decade to come, despite the fact that until this moment, when he was the deputy minister of foreign internal affairs of the russian federation, no one i did not perceive him as a political figure at all, he was just an ordinary, one of the ordinary officials of the ministry of internal affairs, without political ambitions and opportunities, you understand what the head of the united russia faction is like, he is... a serious figure, who, one way or another, may have a huge the trust of the president of russia, vasiliev, by the way , was headed by dagestan, and he arrested half of the leadership there, after all this, this means that the owner trusts you, he succeeded, he succeeded in impersonating others and showing his effectiveness, well, now when we look at crocus will also be sorting

flights now. and also when someone shoots, so to speak, someone will be shot, so it is also necessary to clearly understand this whole situation, that is why it is a very difficult story, i think that it is necessary to sit down, really sit down, analyze everything this, and then we will be able, if we have time to some consequences, to understand what he would want from this terrorist act of putin, even if he was not, let's say , its organizer. or just a person who wanted to take advantage of the consequences, or he may now believe that he was misinformed, so it will also be different, who, who, which of them, this is also a serious conversation, i constantly think about the consequences for us in the first place , they can be both positive if putin begins to understand who could have provided him

inaccurate or distorted information. information, because there is a stereotype, i don't know if you agree with it, the more mess in the russian federation, the better for ukrainians, well, how can i say, i don't think you understand it either, i generally think that it is necessary to deal with a predictable enemy, the mess very often leads to making decisions in an emotional state that no one would make in a predictable state, because if a person is in an emotional state, he does not think about the consequences, whether art state administration, any, even... the state assumes that you are able to calculate the consequences of your act, even when you make a decision to use, say , tactical nuclear weapons, if you are not able to calculate the consequences in a situation of chaos, or do not think at all, that the situation that has developed in your management, the consequences matter, if you start living today, then your decisions are much more dangerous to the outside world than the decisions when you are in a state of predictability, a predictable dictator is better than

an unpredictable one even in war. that's why everyone wants to deal with xijin ping anyway, he looks like a predictable dictator, huh, isn't he, he can't be counted and predicted to the end either, but we count on him calculating the consequences of his actions, yes, when you're opposite he is sitting, and you are biden and so on, you understand that you are talking to a person who calculates the consequences of one or another of his decisions, that this is a working computer. too, and if it's not a working computer, you're on it you hit and you think it's good that it doesn't work, but then it explodes, well, it's about trump now, good, i don't think trump is as unpredictable as we think, but it is, trump god, playing such a game, by the way, trump is a historical place, this crocus city hall, you know, that’s how trump held a beauty contest there, that’s where, it seems, he had contacts with these, these

, who, after which, how they believe that in russia there has been some kind of compromising material on the billionaire, the owner of this complex is agalarov, this is the former trump's business partner, this is exactly the place where you could hang a memorial plaque on crocus city hall, here in such and such a year the world beauty contest was held by donald trump, when russia becomes a democratic state, it will be possible to rename krasnogorsk to trump city and invite trump on... well, it's better than krasnogorsk. let there be trumpogorsk. trumpogorsk it's good too. yes. well, if you invite all these honorable women, citizens, i hope, of the russian federation, in the rank of no less than major general. ugh. who met with trump in that an unhappy evening for him. these women could open this plaque. so. ot. well, if we're talking in general about what

concerns... us and her