russian terror in the sumy region, 200 guided aerial bombs in three weeks, which the enemy is preparing for our troops in the northern direction. bet on repression. did putin call on the fsb to fight more actively against external and internal enemies? does the dictator lose confidence in his own army? we will talk about this and other things for the next hour with our guests, a diplomat and a former minister. of foreign affairs of ukraine volodymyr ogrysk, military expert mykhailo samus and oleg rybachuk, former head of the presidential administration. however, before how to start our big conversation, i suggest you watch a video of how fighters of the 47th separate mechanized brigade repelled another attack by russian invaders, to destroy the enemy, ukrainian defenders skillfully used drones. let's see.

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so, mr. vladimir, vladimir putin once again elected, shamelessly elected the leadership, the leadership in the russian federation, on march 17 , the so-called elections were held, and vladimir putin and his team won more than 87% of the trust of russians in these elections, does this mean that this trust trust in the benches. will encourage putin to loosen his hand even more in the war against ukraine, against the west, and in general, will we see a completely different putin, given the percentage he refers to in his trust and in his trust in himself, well, i think that we will not see anything new, mr. serhiy, to him and before these pseudo-elections , no one tied their hands, now, even more so... that is

, he will, well, he actually said about it at this so -called press conference after the announcement of these numbers, uh, that he will continue war, that the whole of the so-called special operation, he is going to carry out, that he is already there agreed to some ee sanitary zone on the territory of ukraine, well, you know, this traditional delusion that is heard. i don't think it surprises anyone and doesn't need any analysis, it's just a continuation of that absolutely catastrophic, by the way for russia , course, er, on which he ee ee ee by starting this full-scale aggression against ukraine. he will pay for it, it will also be his personal tragedy, because he will either end his life in the hague prison, or he will simply

not physically reach it, but it is his choice, he he made it, that is why he should bear responsibility, regarding... support , you know, he was really bullied there, painted and so on, but at the same time it is equally important to emphasize that the vast majority of the russian population supports him, and let's not deceive ourselves that there is some opposition, that there are some people who protest, who do not agree, we looked at these protests, the green party is in the ballot. there is a firecracker and some totally inadequate standing at 12 o'clock in front of the ballot boxes, this is what is called the russian opposition, therefore, in

fact, the vast, vast majority of russians are chauvinists, and we must talk about it, we must repeatedly remind and explain it to our western partners, who for some reason, after this next show, start talking about , that there will be some kind of beautiful russia of the future, it will not exist, because there is no one to create it, and another fairy tale of the west for itself about new new leaders in the person of yulia navalny there or something and so on, it will also undergo another collapse, therefore ... they should finally move on to realities, and they are very sad for russia, this country has no prospects for its development. that is, i understand correctly, mr. volodymyr, that by voting for putin in the majority,

russians voted for war. absolutely, well actually they support this war. well, well, even look at these, as you can say now, detachments, which. they even film there on the streets of russian cities, they are truly warlike, and these are not only, by the way , older people, these are people who see russia as so imperial, aggressive, whose borders do not end anywhere, that is, they believe that all this political frenzy that putin is producing, well, they will have to pay for it. to pay the price of the unity of this super-empire that still exists. during the last few weeks, mr. volodymyr, both europe and the world have been discussing the statements of emmanuel macron, the president of france, regarding the possible expedition or the possible sending

of french troops to the territory of ukraine. minister of foreign affairs of ukraine dmytro kuleba explained what macron meant, he. said that ee macron meant ee only training, i will quote mr. kuleba when macron spoke about the introduction of troops into ukraine, european leaders panicked, macron only wanted to say that there is an opportunity to train the ukrainian military directly in ukraine, and not outside it, as is happening now. at the same time , the ministry of defense of france, by the way, denied the statement of the director of the russian foreign intelligence service serhiy. naryshkin, who started talking about france preparing to send 200 of its troops to ukraine, and france declared that naryshkin's message was another example of systematic russia's use of mass disinformation. why, mr. volodymyr, is the west so afraid

to say that if hostilities escalate further in ukraine, european countries will be forced to... react to this and will be forced to defend themselves, because it is not about sending french troops to the first line of the russian-ukrainian front, and that europe must also defend itself from the russians, so that putin hears it, and putin constantly sees some kind of stratification, some clarification of the fact that they did not quite understand that we will to teach ukrainians that we don't really think about it, why are they so... kidding, you know, i'll say first of all that i really like the change in the french president's rhetoric, it means that he understands that now his time is coming, the time when he can claim the role of political leader

of europe, hardly an economic one, because here germany continues to lead, but it refuses to combine its... political power with or rather economic power with political power, so you know, the holy place is not empty, france, as a member of the nuclear the club may well... take on this leading political role in europe, and i think that will happen, is it good for ukraine? i think it's good, because you see , from the fact that macaron answered putin that france also has nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons, well , it follows, a very simple conclusion follows: you can not intimidate us, because we have something to answer for, and it's a brilliant... uh, uh, macron's move to put this nuclear blackmailer in his place, uh, and i

think that these statements by macron and not only him, about the possibility that these or other armed formations of nato countries can be on the territory of ukraine, is also a very important and useful step, but in the end it is not about a joint decision. members of the alliance, but about the decision of each individual member of nato. look, some, well , lost consciousness from fear, others, began to bury their heads in the sand, saying that no, we meant neither this nor that. others said it was a good idea. i believe that the main thing here, at this stage, at least, is that this idea has begun to be discussed. yes, first there will be one, then there will be a second one, after that there will be a third one, but the taboo was removed from this topic, it became a topic

to be talked about, once the taboo topic was hymers, once the taboo topic was the patriots, once the taboo topic was the f-16, so what , well, there were, and then they didn’t become, well, it will be the same here, because everyone understands very well that talks... about the training of ukrainian specialists somewhere on the western borders will not be enough, so i think that this is all with a correct, thought-out, reasonable plan of action, let the kremlin finally understand that his dreams that the west will stand aside, they disappear like the morning mist, and if there is a need for... western partners to get involved, then there is no need for a nato decision, each country will decide for itself and

will work as as she sees fit, and i somehow think it's not just france. well, by the way, we have emmanuel macron's synchronicity, where he explains in an interview for tf-1 what he meant and about the understanding and fears that france has about putin's possible aggression. let's listen to what macron said. these fears are a necessary signal to wake up i think it is important that our youth understand what the war in ukraine is like. it takes place 1,500 km from our borders. this is very little. if ukraine falls, if we decide to abandon it, the consequences will be direct for us. because where will the imperialists stop.

ramstein format of our western partners who support us and secretary of defense lloyd austin. said that the world will not allow ukraine to be defeated, why, can you explain to us, mr. volodymyr, why the west does not say that they will not allow of our defeat, why don't they say that they don't, that they support ukraine in its victory, that is, not to be defeated and to win, after all, there is probably a nuance in this, well, mr. serhiy, i think that here... gosno's emphasis now is not on wording , but

on the fact that we will in the coming weeks, but there is still hope that crete will be the month when american aid and ammunition, which the honorable president of the czech republic, found for us, general pavel is in the past, and this... means that april should become very a serious month of changes, because if we will have what we need, then plus we do not forget that... june is like the month when the first f-16 aircraft will already arrive in ukraine, so believe me, the combination of all these factors, it is not will simply put the topic on the agenda so that ukraine does not lose, and it will already without discussion become the topic of how to make

russia lose, and this already without, so to speak, permission. in one or another of our western partners, if we have enough weapons, then believe me, i think that no one will ask whether we should advance in the south or the east, and no matter how far, we must liberate our territory, for this we must destroy everything that is within the reach of our armed forces on the territory of the russian federation, although we are now being told that. .. f-16s should not hit russian objects, well, well, let them talk, if these objects are the points from which shelling and destruction of ukraine are prepared and carried out, then these are legitimate military targets, and they will be destroyed by the same the f-16s themselves. therefore, i think, here

we should feel very calm and work on one topic, this. count, but if we finally get everything that was promised, well , then all other conversations about formulas, they will somehow talk by themselves in my opinion. yesterday, the minister of defense of ukraine, rustem umyerov, after the completion of ramshtein, announced that ukraine would be provided with more ammunition and missiles for air defense, quoting mr. umyerov: the partners announced aid packages, which include artillery shells of 155 mm, 152 mm, 105 mm and others are grateful. partners for everything of the world are looking for and finding the ammunition that is so necessary to repel the ppu aggressor, to protect our cities, to protect our soldiers from the russian aircraft that drop cabs on our positions. today, the european commission allocated to ukraine the first 4.5 billion euros from a special fund for the total amount of 50 billion. this was announced by the high

representative of the european union for foreign policy, jose borel, at a press conference. according to the results of the meeting, or rather, according to the results of the council of the ukraine -eu association, he also proposed to direct to support to ukraine, income from russian assets in europe. let's listen to what borel said. putin has repeatedly spoken messages aimed at the start of the third world war. we heard what he said in his so-called election campaign. he has imperial ambitions to advance further to the west. i am sure that... he would not stop at conducting an exclusively military operation on the territory of ukraine. so, now we have no opportunity to delay the next steps. we must act to put frozen russian assets to good use of ukraine. we are working on it now. mr. volodymyr, the decision on the use of frozen assets of the russian federation in

favor of ukraine has not yet been adopted. all over the world, frozen somewhere close. 300 billion dollars, if european countries and the european union make such a decision regarding the use of these funds, does this mean that other funds located in other countries will also be used for the benefit of ukraine. well, you see, mr. serhiy, this is just an extremely difficult topic for western lawyers, they continue, i think, to play i want to play games that cannot be played. accept russia as a member of the civilized club and are afraid that the aggressor, who has trampled all international law, will sue them using their rules, well, sorry, this is nonsense, this cannot be, a political decision must be made that russia is an aggressor country , that with her the civilized world

will not use civilized rules, and then for this political... decision , legal ones can be found, while our western partners are looking for legal formulas, and they are not find, until now the topic of not only freezing , but also the confiscation of these funds will hang in the air, now they have found an interim solution that will give ukraine several billions a year, this is also important, this is also thanks, from the profits, from these frozen funds, but it's... 3 billion, 4 billion, 5 billion, yes, these are also huge amounts, but it's not 280 or 300, however, so it seems to me that our western partners lack political... courage, political will, and so on we wish them to finally have it. thank you sir volodymyr, thank you for the conversation, this was volodymyr ogryzko, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs

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the results of this vote further on , contact us mykhailo samus, military expert , deputy director of the army research center for conversion and disarmament, director of new geopolitics research network mr. mykhailo, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today, i congratulate you, let's start our conversation with today's attack. of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense at the airfield in russian engels, saratov region, so far gur actually reported that this attack was effective, the ukrainian-made kamikat unmanned drone is showing itself very well, but we know that engels is based on many of those planes, by the way, which were in 2000 transferred from ukraine to russia, in particular the tu 95 ms and all these resources with which ukraine is now firing planes and missiles, they were exchanged

for a gas debt, but eh, let's talk about these drones february, which help us strike inside the russian federation, we see as over the last few... weeks there have been quite successful strikes on oil refineries that are more than 800 or 900 km away from ukraine, and we are getting there, what kind of drone is this, tell our viewers, and what are these, what are these drones for us , which the possibilities are revealed, well, in fact , ukraine has several promising drones that can strike deep into russia and... this was actually said by the heads of the ministry of strategic industry , the ministry of digital, and the ministry of defense, that the plan for 2024 provides for the release of at least a thousand

such drones of various types. the advantage of ukraine is that we constantly, our private manufacturers constantly offer new projects, new models, which are improved during use, during combat use and just in progress. tests in the course of combat operations, of course, it is possible to improve and take into account the specific advantages and disadvantages, because in any technique there are disadvantages, especially in combat conditions. 1,000 drones seemed like a huge number last december, but it seems that in fact this year many more long-range drones will be produced and used against russia, in principle , just like ... the same fpv drones, because in in december, 50,000 were produced, now they are already talking about 150,000 per month, and judging by the increasing intensity

of use of ukrainian fpv drones , for example, on the battlefield, it can be said that there is an increase, fortunately, the state got involved, already systematically, there is an increase in the production of all types of drones, and they are being improved, for example, if ... talking about fpv drones, mass production of drones with so-called machine vision, that is, the use of artificial intelligence, is already underway, which if we talk about long-range drones, which we are talking about now, then the number, i think, will be far beyond 100 drones, because in the same operation, for example, if we are talking about the strikes on the oil refinery, then why did the effectiveness of such strikes in general increase in... even with the strikes that were in the 23rd year, then there was, for example, strikes one, two, three drones, now we

notice that there may be strikes already... 10 drones on one object, it is obvious that the russian air defense system, the russian reb is not able to protect both military objects and objects critical infrastructure, and objects, for example, such strategic military meaning, as an airfield for basing strategic bomber aviation, so the point here is not even in the type or features of a particular drone, but the point is that it is constant. perfecting and fortunately scaling up, that is, if we reach at least parity with the russians, who use, as we know, about 300-400 shaheeds per month against ukraine, if we also use 300-400 long-range strike drones on the territory of russia , it will already be a great success in annual calculation, if we let's count, for example, 300 drones, then this...

there will already be numbers that go far beyond the plans that we, which we talked about in 2023, and this, the further the russian air defense systems will be loaded more and more, and the more we will succeed in destroying both the economic potential and the military potential of russia. and what concerns the electronic warfare systems from russia, to what extent is russia keeping up with it now, because on the battlefield they... quite actively use rebs, but of course russia has a large enough territory, a lot of enterprises, a lot of different objects of critical infrastructure, as far as they have the opportunity to create these systems around the main objects that they are going to protect there in some way, i heard that the refinery, they want to protect there with armor systems, i don't know if this is true or not, maybe you can clarify it, well, the refinery is interesting. they started

hinting or half-demanding from the owners of the refineries themselves to place orders for the ppo and reb systems from the manufacturers, that is, they are already shifting, for example, the responsibility from the ministry of defense, which is responsible, of course, for air cover, and it is precisely the ministry of defense that is , well, as a rule, in countries the only and unique customer of such... air defense systems, especially anti-aircraft missile systems, i 'm not even talking about rifle systems elementary, on pickup trucks , namely anti-aircraft missile systems that should really be used by specialists, i , for example, well, it is very difficult to imagine, it is necessary for the refinery to create some private military company that will use anti-aircraft missile systems in the country in which civil aviation flies calmly, here it can lead to... very

complex, i would say so, and unpredictable incidents in the air space, the same applies to the means of radio-electronic warfare, the thing is effective, but it is objective, that is, it is very difficult to cover large areas , for example, well, as regards , for example, troops, it is possible to cover combat positions and this is done in a certain range, width, depth and so on, all this is done in accordance with the doctrines and requirements of the statutes, as regards... civilly their ob' objects, here the situation is again difficult, because russia a huge country, even the european part of russia, is a huge territory, over which are scattered eyes, for example, refineries, or military facilities, that is, military units, or the same factories of the defense-industrial complex, and they are not concentrated, which could be systematically closed, for example,

there is one complex of some kind. and these factories, which produce components, are scattered over, for example, the entire european part of russia, and cover all these objects without harming, let's say, a civilian object communications, communications, state management , military management and so on, impossible, or, for example, even by the same token, the movement of civil aviation, because, if you paid attention, there were... messages, including from nato countries, that in the area of ​​kaliningrad , for example, russia is actively using reb systems that are beginning to suppress the gps signal, and civil aviation is already suffering from this, although it is not known whether russian aviation is suffering from this, but the aviation of the baltic countries, well, nato countries, in fact, is suffering , and they it is reported, although it has not yet reached any sanctions or.