[000:00:00;00] ships will continue because here is the corridor between 60 and there for 120 days i was going through exactly with it with a clear understanding that the possibilities of shipment will be accelerated that is why today we lack the type of power on which we are shipping to bring out all ukrainian products a clearer period thank you serhiy lavayuk people's deputy of ukraine, a member of the verkhovna rada committee on agrarian and land policy was in touch with us. further, for your attention, the draft verdict with serhiy rudenko, and we with antin burkovskyi they did it, but we say goodbye to you. glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to everyone. today, march 28, 200-398th is the day of the heroic struggle of the ukrainian people against the russian

occupiers. at night, the russian military launched 15 attack drones on the territory of ukraine. shahed 136, 14 of them were destroyed by the defense forces . russia again dropped an aerial bomb on the city of bilopylla, sumy region . one man meanwhile russian forces continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of march 28 russia has lost 171,730 people in ukraine in the last day alone the armed forces have not destroyed 570 orks since the beginning of the great war russians have already lost in ukraine and lost in ukraine 3 6,002 tanks 6,966 armored combat vehicles

2,653 artillery systems 525 rocket salvo systems 277 air defense equipment 305 aircraft 291 helicopters 5,502 units of motor vehicles 18 boats boats 911 cruise missiles 2,2235 drones, 287 units of special equipment, about the night attack of drones on ukraine, the situation on the eastern and southern fronts, the nuclear loophole for lukashenka and simonian reparations , we will talk about all this for the next hour , i want to introduce today's first guest - this is yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics , political scientist, historian, mr. yevgeny good day good health to you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast congratulations mr. serhiy glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let's start with the topic that is

being discussed in the world and the world's media and international security organizations - this is putin's statement about the placement of nuclear tactical weapons on the territory of the republic of belarus. the un security council is meeting this week to discuss president putin's statement, and it is obvious that the ukrainian side will raise questions about responsibility, including at the level of the un security council of russia, but at the same time, we know that on april 1, russia will take over the presidency of the un security council and will preside over this highest body of the united nations . what do you think about what putin is doing now and

in fact, for the menacing, together with lukashenko, threatening the world with nuclear tactical weapons, will there be an adequate reaction of the world community to this, taking into account the fact that from july 1 of this year, these storage facilities for tactical nuclear weapons will already be built on the territory of the republic of belarus, the first in the format of the un security council of adequate decisions it won't happen because russia, as a permanent member of the un security council, has the right of veto and, accordingly, it is supported by china . china has a position that the use of nuclear weapons is not what the modern world needs, but i don't think it's worth expecting condemnation from russia. well, it's just not worth it

. i think we've witnessed the nuclear anschluss of belarus, which i mean, belarus is now completely subordinated interests of the russian federation and all the myths that lukashenko can be independent somewhere, somewhere he can play his game, somewhere he can somehow maneuver, they no longer correspond to reality, because lukashenko can talk as much as he wants to supporters that we do not send our boys to ukraine and they will not die there, but the decision to place tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus actually exposes a significant part of its own citizens to a potential retaliatory strike , there is another important moment of the placement of nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus poses

a threat not only and not exclusively to ukraine, it is a threat primarily to poland, lithuania and latvia , nato countries, countries of the european union that also border belarus and the thesis of the belarusian western balcony for russia, it is quite noticeable because, accordingly, russian nuclear warheads have been moved several hundred kilometers to the west and actually moved deep into the e-e region of central europe if we remember the presence of iskanders in the territory of the kaliningrad region, which can also be carriers of tactical nuclear weapons we understand that russia is trying to raise rates and take lithuania as a kind of vice, but let's not

forget that in october of last year , the president of poland, angie duda, expressed that place nuclear weapons on the territory of poland, american nuclear weapons, and i think that in the context of the upcoming parliamentary elections, this proposal will be heard more than once. by the way, lukashenko does not flaunt the fact that he will ask putin for nuclear weapons, which he will send to the kidney, saying that the premises for storing such he has weapons, and let's hear what he says about it. we , the proclaimed president of the republic of belarus , oleksandr recently, the agent of nato and genstoteltenberg, announced that if

germany refuses, uh, that's american. will be transported to poland, they will be transported to the east, but it is clear where to poland, and then i will propose to putin to return nuclear weapons to belarus , what nuclear weapons will we agree on, what nuclear weapons will be the most effective, and with such contact, we are not treasonous we are on the territory of belarus , i am ready for this as much as possible. excuse me, the owner, we will not destroy anything, all the sheds are standing still, you see, mr. yevgeny, all the sheds are standing still.

he is just a dictator and so will a dictator with nuclear weapons even in the russian federation, will it help him, you know, frankly speaking, i am surprised by the level of education and the horizons of thinking separately in modern politicians , for example, in putin, he says that there are nuclear weapons located on the territory of belarus on the one hand, the reaction to the supply of depleted uranium shells to ukraine, and britain, on the other hand, the americans say that in relation to west germany, they always do and have done this, but the americans do and have done this since the cold war, when there was a confrontation and this confrontation, as you know, the soviet union lost cleanly , connecting tactical nuclear weapons with depleted uranium is, well, you know how to knit bones for a compote with cherries, which

is a garden cherry circle, so what is the point, these are things that are connected with each other, well, very and very indirectly, there is another interesting point that lukashenko talks about, saying that we will have everything there, we can use nuclear weapons. well, first of all, i don't even think that putin will allow him to use nuclear weapons tactically, even though they are in service belarus recently has a division of boats that can become rocket launchers for tactical nuclear missiles

. i.e. in the sky, on the ground , there are nuclear rocket opses. well, what? and what does pasepka have ? conditionally legitimate leader of belarus ahead of time and that's why these his philippics but we are not afraid of anything, well, this is designed for the internal consumer, for the collective pond, who will then broadcast it and say that we will see the song destroyed in warsaw and everything else , but these propaganda exercises are, frankly, far no, yevgeny, you already mentioned

the arrest warrant issued by the international criminal court for the russian president putin. in principle, he can be arrested by the 122 countries of the world that have ratified the rome statute, that no one is going to hold any peace talks with him. well, actually , after this order, putin became a person who, if not outside the law, is to sufficiently dubious partners for negotiations, this does not mean that there will be no one in russia who will conduct these negotiations, this is absolutely obvious, but on the other hand, i think that at

the present moment, in fact, there is no question of such negotiations. i still do not see any real benefits for them prospects because the situation for putin is actually not very good, because the warrant that was issued was issued not only for the arrest of putin, but also for the arrest of lvivova belova, the so-called child smuggler, and it is actually related to the abduction of children, the abduction of children is a crime that finds echoes in the hearts, well, without exaggeration, of billions of inhabitants of the earth , because many people can pass it through themselves and, accordingly, it is even, i would say , a more high-profile crime than mass murders

and other similar things in the world, as cynical as it may be it didn't sound a bit familiar, but here the president of a nuclear state is marked, you know how. well, as in the village before , a victim was marked with tar with tar, he was marked as a kidnapper of children , a kidnapper, and this is for the russian president . well, i would say a very unpleasant characteristic , well, it is clear that in the kremlin now they are trying in some way to devalue or at least downplay the role and importance of the international criminal court. medvedev says that we have the resources to strike directly at this court, but already one of simonyan's propagandists offers to buy ukrainian lands that, according to her, want to be from russia, but on their own

land, well, that is, we are actually talking about reparations, but in such a rather strange way, we will hear from semenyan . those who want to be with us, this is fundamental. we need them. who wants to be with us, we don't need strangers . lviv is not personally needed . at the same time so that it is not offensive to them, they can call it reparations, they have already started writing about it, that is, mr. evgeny, you see, russia is already ready to buy ukrainian land, although no one

is selling it to them, and it is wrong because they are hated not only in lviv, but also in all of ukraine, and these illusions that we will buy land here with serfs and ukraine will calm down, and it should calm down according to your opinion, is there still a window of opportunity for russia to get out of this war in such a way that the process of demilitarization and denazification in russia and depotization according to the organization is so honest saying i was thinking today about what will happen, well, we often say that putin will die. well , some other putin will be fine and in some other version, so i think that russia has already fallen

into this war and there are chances to get out so that putin can save face there his posthumous mask is being handed over, edpn and emmanuel macron are arguing among themselves, they both want to save his face, but how to save the face of a war criminal and abductor of ukrainian children, i don’t know, especially in the system of power that is formed at the moment in the russian empire, if different telephone conversations of people close to this situation and they are talking about relations within the russian and establishment well, let's put it mildly without pity , nothing good awaits them, i can't imagine that russia will decide to return

honestly i say, but on the other hand, i am sure that only the dismantling, let it be relatively peaceful, but the dismantling of russia can protect europe from the repetition of similar movements, the repetition of such aggression is possible not against and not against another weaker state that will not be able give russia in the teeth, you mentioned this recording. we have a fragment of a recording of a music producer from russia and joseph prigozhin and a former member of the federation council and billionaire farhat akhmedov. let's listen to this fragment , because maybe some of our tv viewers have not heard it in its entirety.

and the second lilliput is not more expensive, it is complex , it is not visible. the person from the raw hates well, they just ask that when all this ends , how does it end? жопы сегодня против что процедятся передовшеством is already impossible, this is such a fragment of the recording yosyp prigozhin already said that this was a montage, but i am sure that this recording probably surpassed all the records of his wife valeria, who tried to be a megastar in the russian federation. well, i think that this track will be in the hits, for sure in all the charts in the russian federation and outside the russian federation , this record proves that everyone who is under putin and everyone who licks his ass still

understands that the end is relentless putin and of putin's russia, not even when this dissatisfaction they show in phone conversations, well, so -called kitchen conversations in the traditions of the soviet union, when will they become reality , when these people will start to do something, or at least openly protest against putin , or in the end will create an internal front in the russian federation, you know, we have to admit that we overestimated the mood inside russia , remember that a year ago we assumed that the introduction of sanctions and significant losses would cause some kind of active movement inside there will be enough people in russia who will be ready not to associate with putin , but in reality there is no such thing, and even those hundreds of thousands of potential conscripts who fled in the fall after the decree on limited

mobilization, they are rather a hybrid operation of the russian special services than well how to me than those who simply decided to part with russia forever, therefore i think that the situation when various russians rise from their knees and start protesting against putin is practically unpredictable, it must be some kind of powerful trigger, let's say a very powerful defeat russia on the ukrainian front, which simply cannot be hidden, and then there may be a certain domino effect, but i repeat that there may be a situation when they hang putin's corpse and say well, let's let's negotiate because it was he who forced us to do everything, but

in fact it is the mood inside russian society and this it is also necessary to realize that the russian society, as i understand it, will be aware for a very long time of what is happening on the territory of ukraine, since television in the russian federation is under their control and under their control there is a church that actually came out on the side of vladimir putin and the war well, in fact , all attitudes in russia in one way or another have been formed not only in the last nine years in relation to ukraine, but for centuries in the russians eh . how do you explain this hatred and this anger with which the russians are now coming to our land, killing ukrainians, destroying our

cities, where are the origins of this hatred, when did it appear historically, and the reasons for this , why, why is it taking so long rage and hatred live in russians. i think that there are several components here, on the one hand, you are absolutely right in that there are really limited channels of information delivered to the average russian. he lives in a kind of digital colony where there are not many opportunities to receive alternative information, it is still a possibility , but it is far not everyone wants to use it, but the second component is much more important, because the process of dehumanizing ukrainians, demonstrating that ukrainians are second-class people, has been going on since 2014 as

actively as possible since the crucified boy but he relies on the thesis of the three-unit slavic people, and that is why i say that we , the russians, and the belarusians are not relatives, we are not brothers. there are no chances for good-neighborly relations because the concept of a single slavic nation of ukrainians and belarusians could not be on the same level as russia, and no matter how hard we try, we must do everything to

russia in its current form has been dismantled, it is the direct personification of imperial evil, it is the personification of a hateful ideology, it is the personification of authoritarianism, and that is why we have to fight against it, while emphasizing on becoming like russia. 500 religious buildings in ukraine are a church for them, he said only a hundred religious buildings were destroyed, damaged or looted as a result of the russian invasion of ukraine all religions and denominations were affected, in particular, churches, mosques, synagogues, educational administrative buildings of religious communities of ukraine, at the same time, in ukraine there remains a rather powerful fifth column, a branch of the russian orthodox church, which is called the ukrainian orthodox church, and well , the moscow patriarchate is not added there, but

actually it is quite possible to add the moscow patriarchate tomorrow, march 29, the monks of this moscow church must leave the territory of the kyiv-pechersk lavra. before that, they turned to zelensky and said that they are calling on zelenskyi, this is not what they think is a mistake, because monks have been living there for a long time, from a branch of the russian orthodox church, for them they say it is a shrine, and they are ukrainians in general, and they are representatives of the ukrainian orthodox church, what do you think about this one a component that is quite important for putin in ukraine and, of course, the departure of moscow priests from the kyiv-pechersk lavra. this is another blow to the fact that putin presents the presence of the russian orthodox church in

ukraine and the fact that kyiv is an important city for russian orthodoxy and for the kremlin brothers, and what do you think, will ukraine be able to limit the activity of this church to the status of some sect, a sect, a branch of the russian orthodox church? will putin not use this for internal destabilization in ukraine, considering the number of parishioners and parishes of this church in ukraine, such a threat exists in general here is an interesting point because in russia, in ukraine , the church is separated from the state, as in most civilized countries of the world, but despite this, the factor of religion in the russian-ukrainian war is very powerful because two european countries with the largest orthodox denominations in europe are at war with each other. i think that the end of the russian-ukrainian war

will cause serious changes in world orthodoxy. what the russian orthodox church is doing in ukraine. that they were asked from the kyiv-pechersk lavra, which actually did not belong to the russian orthodox church in ukraine , there is nothing wrong with this, let this complex be used to what extent it will continue to function as a religious building and not as a museum exclusively as a museum, i think it is a topic for a separate professional discussion , but the head of the orthodox church of ukraine, epiphany , offered monks to stay in the kiev-pechersk lavra to become monks

of the orthodox church of ukraine, but i still do not see such a tendency for them to want to stay there. well, what well, here you know not even church but legal relations that are regulated by the church code, not the church code, but the civil code. i'm sorry. the lease term has expired . goodbye, and this is absolutely normal healthy, sober, and there is nothing extraordinary about the extent to which russia will be able to use it in class interests to destabilize society, well, it seems to me that it is more difficult to destabilize and turn ukrainian society against russia than to fire rockets , strike closely at churches and residential buildings, and destroy everything

possible, russia did a lot in this war so that it was recognized as involved in war crimes, and i think that the issue of creating the appropriate tribunal is therefore it remains very relevant, mr. yevgeny. thank you for the conversation. it was yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics, a political scientist and historian. friends, we work on the air of the espresso tv channel, as well as in our social networks. we are on facebook now and on youtube for those who are currently watching us live on on youtube and facebook , please like this video so that it is promoted in the recommended and more viewers will see it. well, subscribe to our e-pages on social networks, you can also become a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel now you will see a qr code by following it you can join our sponsor