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is what you are liberating our country from the enemy , the film tretiy zemlya kharkiv counteroffensive watch tomorrow, march 22 at 9:15 p.m. do you know that when there were two friends gathering in the kitchen two rules we talk about politics and religion talk about politics and religion at this hour and about politics and about religion with us today is special we will not talk for a minute and we will actively communicate and i will involve him valentin glynykh political analyst p valentin good night good evening we really haven't seen each other for a long time and i know what i wanted to ask about. here is the number one news for you during this last period. what has impressed you the most recently and you are thinking about it and it is difficult to say. well, i think that the biggest

news is, once again, another victory negotiations in the rammstein format, the strengthening of military-technical assistance to ukraine well, everything else is the same well, we understand that there is a war , well, in fact, the amount of information is very large , er, its mixture with disinformation is also large enough, therefore, in principle, well, how about the decision regarding the future arrest putin is on this list of e-e orders. well, how can you say this is a very important milestone on the way to restoring justice and the inevitability of punishing vinna . that is, it is clear, but to say that it came as a surprise to me that it it jumped out at me. you know, it was out of the blue, but not if you say that it caused me some kind of exaltation. well, also not because , unfortunately, he is still outside the boundaries of justice, but already in a different

status, that is, the status of a person when they can be arrested for life, and religious issues you are encouraged by the religious question, as a religion, i knew that it is very encouraging. but again, they do not surprise me and, well, they do not shock me, because this hypocrisy began with the security measures of the security service of ukraine - this was at the end of last year. that is, i do not i was surprised by that. everything went well, but, well, silly performances are arranged, yes, well, we will talk about it now. so you think that this is exactly him, a performance. because i consider it a person and me. well, when people come, we want to meet, so what are we talking about so that not thought that the three of us invented something here, and people do not understand what it is about. members of the holy synod of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate came to the president's office, why was the purpose of this visit called a meeting with the president of ukraine

, volodymyr zelensky, the metropolitan said antony of boryspil and brovarsky also published a video on his facebook where members of the synod clarify that they are not demanding, but very much asking for a meeting with the ukrainian leader. later , a representative of the president's office came to the clergy and offered to convey the appeal by the president. onufriy noted that the hierarchs hope to do this during a personal meeting. with zelensky , considering the published video, the reason for the visiting representatives of the uoc of the moscow patriarchate is the situation around the kyiv-pechersk lavra as if everything was explained now let's deal with it like this. and i watched a video of something, and this thought came to my mind: well, it's possible, in my opinion , if the clergy came on foot or came in less modest cars , some dialogues would get in the way, but no, hmm, i think

that no, well, it was a performance. there was a performance well, without a luntik performance that is, i am emphasizing it not about that, there simply was not a two-minute performance, uh, because well, if you have any appeal, well, you can pass it there , it turns out that you didn’t even have it in the text version, i didn’t i think they are cherished the existing illusions well, unless god's intervention really had to happen yes , and they should have been accepted and so we understand that there is a protocol, there are a lot of services that plan the president's working day , especially at the present time, i think he has something to do to hold unscheduled meetings. well, this is a huge luxury. and the main thing is, why did they come to the president ? we have article 35 of the constitution of ukraine. in our country , the church is separated from the state. well , state interference in the church in the city of relations is generally prohibited. they broke up with us two years ago. yes, you can't interfere, why do you come, it's one moment, the second moment, eh

, even if he accepted them as president, what he said, he should now recruit a minister of eh, there, eh, culture of information to say. maybe they brought some arguments, so let them carry it. well, what will they transfer to him, let them take it to court, that is, we have the president of ukraine , it seems that article 106 of the constitution of ukraine contains an exhaustive list of the powers of the president of ukraine. e in rent or continued use of objects of cultural and historical heritage. that is, it is not within the authority of the president of ukraine. if these people believe that their rights there, the rights of their religious organization are violated, then we have a single body that determines the legality and illegality of certain decisions, this is called nope, not zelensky, after all, the tsar’s man is, well, by the way, i commented on this today on another channel and said that they must have been incorrectly

informed from moscow. well, poor tsar , this is a somewhat different tradition that was calculated. well i think that in the first place it was planned for the media now. well, we'll see who will disperse it the most. in what interpretations, how should they have acted? they have now left . those people who came to the president's office are so religious and church-like, forgive me. although the predecessors, if they held a holy procession there, they tried, i don’t know, to perform some kind of religious activities, then we said about the religious ones, there’s a circus, and it’s just , well, we could do it like that. by the way , there wouldn’t be a circus either, if they were there already we would watch a bear on a bicycle or a trained one, so that it would lead to him playing balalaikas there, then simply that this is an insurance moment, in fact, we are not preparing on

a religious topic. the title of candidate of philosophical sciences in the specialty 09:00 11 i can also tell you as a person who worked for eight years in the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on culture and spirituality and precisely dealt with the issue of state church and interfaith relations, er, we can say with all responsibility that what we saw has nothing to do with anya's religion, anya 's state-church relations, and what about interfaith relations? that is, they didn't say that. i was a student at a lecture listening to the teacher, we used to say the classics. a person is simple but not simpler well, therefore, in principle , i can afford, you know, there may be some irony and even sarcasm, but how can you react seriously when they go there, well, they also have specialists who can approximately to tell them what is appropriate and what is inappropriate, and if they still take such steps, it means that their expediency and their rationality are somewhat different

. that you cannot, for example, persecute some religious figures there, listen, there is the constitution of ukraine, all citizens of ukraine are equal before the law, including the clergy of the moscow patriarchate, well, the ukrainian orthodox church, as they call themselves and their faithful, and the fact that the security service of ukraine visited them not without reason is evidenced by the fact that, first of all, it seems that 55 of their priests are involved in criminal cases, and against some of them, court verdicts have already acquired legal force , the idea of ​​which has already been exchanged by the russian federation. during the exchange, when ukrainian prisoners were returned , they asked for representatives of the church, which means that they perceived these people as saboteurs, as combatants, relatively speaking , because they exchanged them for combatants on ukrainian prisoners of war, so i think that this is the best thing that can be done. the best thing that could be done is if

the moscow orthodox church stood up for the ukrainian orthodox church and put a final cross on the rhetoric of the ukrainian orthodox church that does not take into account any relationship with moscow. and here is such a question in your opinion, if the uoc mp gets rid of these lowly toxic hierarchs of its own, it can get a second wind like you. well, i do not exclude ukraine, a secular state, we have all religious organizations are equal before the law. well, if they carry out their activities within the limits of the current legislation. well, why not? i am not at all a supporter of having some kind of state church like the rpc in russia. everything in ukraine, where in ukraine, the church has always been an institution of civil society, with the exception of of a short period when in the russian empire we had priests who were

officials , by the way, who created the synod in the russian empire? the organization professed various points with the rest it is guaranteed by the constitution of ukraine words don't throw out i want to literally quote part of the statement of the synod of the moscow patriarchate of the uoc duties, and after the start of the russian invasion on the territory of ukraine, they were the first among the churches to condemn this military aggression and called on their believers to stand up for the defense of their native land if we let's recall, in particular, journalists came to the lavra and asked the churchmen what is happening now in ukraine , they avoided a direct answer, let's recall the church services when the priests performed the liturgy for the russian military, they did it openly in the church on the territory of ukraine, so where is this about

love and justice and recognizing war as war? i don't remember some of this. well, i'll tell you more. i even remember boyko's statement, well , to the leader of the pz, who said there on the second or third day, yes, why should we stand up for the defense of the homeland? and he called on all his fellow party members, well, join the defense of ukraine, and to be honest, from mr. anufry, well, such statements did not resonate with such critical, categorical, i would say yes, formulations, well, i understand that you cannot demand from religious people the kind of categoricalness that we can demand from politics. well, that's right, yes this is just an adjustment, that is, it seems to me that they are now, uh, well, they are also demonstrating their inconsistency, well, but it is from the order of the pope, well, we just know that there are different coordinate systems, we are trying to evaluate their system coordinates from our point of view and for them something is different, yes for them well, there are really christian people there, for them there are really orthodox people

, well, we have to realize that if before god there is no jew and elina well, then probably a russian, well, besides also does not exist well, that is you have to understand, that is, this is a slightly different problem, the problem lies in the fact that they start to abuse it and they pretend that they do not distinguish between the victim and the rapist and the aggressor. well, one day the heavenly elder may forgive each other, but in the end, for the first time we got to the kingdom of heaven robbers, well, it's probably somewhere in the blood of this believer, again, well, to each his own, that is, i 'm not drawing any far-reaching conclusions, i just want to say that i understand why the pope of rome takes such a position... but such a position cannot be an excuse. zelenskyi correctly said in this regard, speaking before the israeli people and the parliament, i will not say that you cannot be equidistant between good and evil. equidistant is possible only

when there are two subjects who have the same to this aspect, there is axiological and status, yes, that is, valuable. and when we have a situation where it is clear where there is good and where there is evil . well, where is the criminal and where is the victim of the crime ? that modern society is becoming more and more humane towards criminals and less and less humane towards the victims of crimes, i.e. more humane towards criminals and less humane towards heinous crimes, so if we go back to the statements of the ukrainian orthodox church in moscow churches really exist, first of all, our subjects are religious organizations, specifically , that is, their associations, that is, the fact that in the ranks of their organizations there are separatists, criminal elements, pedophiles , homosexuals, well, this is also theirs, so as they say, it is an internal church matter if this does not violate the legislation of ukraine, but i will repeat myself if

only it is proven that this entire organization yes and its activities are aimed at achieving certain political goals, and in an unconstitutional way, and the overthrow of power by force there is a way to support the enemy, if they are not acting in the interests of a very salutary yes, that is, to save sinners from fire hygiene , but to promote russian peace here listen, i don't remember that jesus yosypovich christ said anything about putin, russian peace, well, the war that is currently going on in ukraine or changed she is the views of believers. i understand that during the war it is difficult to conduct any sociological research, but the believers who went to this church continue to go, they realized who really is and who was hiding under the skin of the wolf, who is really not here, again now i want to appear overly categorical on the one hand, and on the other hand, later they said

that i was excessively condescending to this fifth column, but there is a cool saying from the time of religious vii well, on the edge of a new age, am i the land of that and faith is one moment and another moment uh, what kind of pip is this and the parish when but it is fair and others what is the parish and pip that is, you have to understand that in fact if we look, well, there are uh yes religious maps of ukraine, that is, in fact , the so-called moscow patriarchate is the most widespread not in donetsk and luhansk region, as many people think, well, that is, it goes exactly how to say it, desacralized territories , yes. that is, non-religions, charismatic cults were most represented there . well, because there are atheists, atheist propaganda of the soviet union, well, an urban area , that is, well, destroyed traditions. that is, in fact, the atmosphere there is much more atheistic - it was atheistic, yes, or homely, what can you say, and they have their productive activity

there, not very active and not very successful send-offs . look, they had the greatest spread there charismatic cults and neo-religions, there are a lot of them, well, they come so little , but we remember how when kirill came to donetsk , they showed a special, supposedly large crowd of people there to greet him, in fact, they took him there by bus, and it was still small, and their core is just right for central ukraine, well, central south, er, north, and further there to the west, and if we then superimpose on this electoral map, that is, what er political forces won in these or other regions, well, with the exception of one single region, we will not see the king, this is the pochaiv lavra, so it is very telling that everything around us votes for one political force, and there, where the pochaiv lavra is somehow strange, why do we vote for other political forces in all other regions of ukraine

if we impose there is no such clear self-evident correlation between one electoral map and a religious map, so here i am not ready to say that they are all priests of the moscow patriarchate, they all acted in the interests of moscow , well, it was unfair yes, and unfair to many people, well, what power religious beliefs yes that is, i do not want to touch on the issue of canonicity now, not canonicity, these are their internal church issues, yes, there were issues well, at least before the ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine was created, but eh well, nevertheless, it has little meaning for me as a secular person it does not matter for them it has because this is followed by the sacraments and many other things , the same can be said about their believers, one must be aware of one simple truth that for the majority of people it is stupid, if you asked who is orthodox, most of them are absolutely not thought about that well, to which one specifically yes where is their orthodox patriarch there, roughly speaking - that's half the trouble, usually

a christian and it's a pity to her, there were more funny cases when people said that those who are orthodox wear a christian or the orthodox church or there it's like i'm not telling the truth. it's normal to say that, it's actually the title of the church that it already is, uh, it's the universal catholic orthodox church, well , that is, catholic orthodox, it's actually, well, two. well, orthodox, yes , orthodox, uh, catholic - it's like ecumenical katak sanya is the right orthodox or the one who is right sla that is, italy is catholic by the orthodox church and these are catholic well, but we are just talking there about roman about er orthodox and there is a dogmatic difference, in fact, there is only one yes , against, you wouldn’t be dagman profiles the so-called from whom the holy spirit originates well, but we know that this was also historically conditioned , we are now with an iron such that it has turned on , say the stand-up artists e p valentina e before

moving on to the visit that has already taken place, i wanted to ask another question to the visit that may still to take place and by the way, do you believe that this visit will still take place? i am talking about a possible visit of the pope to kyiv, if i am honest, i doubt it, at least with the demands he is putting forward , it is unlikely well, but i understand his motivation well, why does he want so much, he says that at the same time he wants and to moscow and er to kyiv to moscow, most likely we understand that it is unlikely that he will get into the brain. because we understand that he is unlikely to be there , respectively, and to kyiv, but we must understand that there is such a concept, a phenomenon, which is a communist process yes, in the world, yes that is, roughly speaking, they are the opposite e movement of christianity to unification e well and the rpc is one of those entities that is categorically against this well, that is, it must also be realized in and it is theirs by what it is dictated because there are politicians how many

there are e-e beliefs religions faith teachings well, the question is debatable well, but simply, well, i’m weak i can imagine that under the current political power in russia, under the current leadership of the russian orthodox church, a possible visit of the pope to moscow well, they think that it is there, well, there is a concept of canonical territories yes that is, this well, there are a bunch of conflicting stories out there, who believes who schismatics, and many other things, but even political considerations. to be honest, i doubt that, the main thing is why, well, why did the pope come to ukraine , are there catholics in ukraine, yes, there are catholics in ukraine . well, what's next? well, yes, there is even a ukrainian greek catholic church. things they are orthodox, because many of us believe that if they are greek, so much, then they are catholic, yes, that is, you are not in the game, orthodox is simple, the first is still simple, well, simply, no, well, it is dogmatic, as i said, they profess simply

according to the greek rite, but with the pope's rite roman, they are orthodox, i understand, i have a lot of friends who are not , no, we are not orthodox, yes, i don't want to upset you , but i will repeat again, these are details that are absolutely secondary, they are important for those who are immersed, but nevertheless they cause lively discussions in society and for us. well, the 30-year war lasted one third of the population died just because of such dogmatic disagreements in the field, yes , there is still such a big task ahead of us, how to get society to understand dates and christmas and easter means that the work that will already be after our victory. and we will reach a compromise on some issues, i think so. the main thing is that i did not even see a special need for that , well, that is. even before there was article 62 , it seems that the code of labor laws has an opportunity. well, for people

of a different religion, to transfer the celebration from one day to another, well, conditionally speaking, if you do not celebrate christmas there on the 25th or the seventh. no date. and when i missed it, i am a secular person, that is, i don't care when they celebrate there, how is it calculated , but you have to understand that there are some things that have religious significance, that is, for them, it is fundamental, but i will repeat the calendar, well, that is, two styles, relatively speaking, when catholic christmas is remembered viktor fedorovych was the president and i remember how he was forgotten. i'm just reminding you how once i was sitting and watching him talk about the fact that today catholics are celebrating christmas, i'm sitting like that thinking well, it's not sad that viktor fedorovych man

fest, i don't know that on this day christmas is celebrated not only by catholics, but also by protestants and the lion's share of orthodox churches , the problem is that the problem is not even that there was no person in his administration who advised so, the problem is that most of the spectators who sat listened to this, mishnu, they also don’t understand it and still most ukrainians when they greet each other, but they congratulate you with a catholic christmas, man , really, if you don’t know, better don’t say. well, you are referring to too many other holidays, yes there are two calendars, this is not a question of religion, this is a question of two different calendars, the gregorian and julian calendars, and according to this, they then calculate other dates. i suggest somehow inventing another religious program because it is actually very interesting and i think that in fact it is much better what kind of transport better than me, because i still specialize more in housewives, i am closer in this aspect, i

really wrote about lators, so let’s get to this topic, because it is urgent, it is the present that decides our future and that we we watched we will watch putin is desperately trying to get closer to potential partners amid the issuance of a warrant for his arrest by the international criminal court the president of russia urgently needs the support of someone influential in this regard he invited a dynpinim to moscow to appease the chinese leader the head of the kremlin was not shy about not turning away sycophancy, so on the way of the motorcade of the ringer from the vnukovo airport , billboards were installed with greetings in chinese, we warmly congratulate the head of the people's republic of china, sit down in russia was mentioned in those inscriptions. i don't understand chinese, so believe it. yes, we have hope . or maybe we don't. it's not written there . hot soup, as usual. valentine

. as far as you know, as they say, there is nothing more important than the little things. how much did this little thing play ? its role. what do you think for a pragmatic sisinpin because we were maybe nice but not only what is written there i think for more than 10 seconds yes well, yes , it was possible to place some kind of advertisement there that this object is flying, 10 million people see it there people there in a month well, seriously, i don't think that it's so fundamentally a secret and i think that the leader of china well, he didn't come for that, i think that these are hieroglyphs he can read even in a picnic there's no need to go to moscow near the gangway not putin. do you think he will remember? well, there is a protocol. i think that in fact , if this issue was not agreed upon, then it would be possible to put an end to this visit, it is guaranteed to be a failure, that is, you know confucius once said well, what

are the rituals for? well because rituals are just that the road with instructions, are we moving correctly, so there is enough careful attention is paid to purely procedural ritual things, that is, even where it may seem like an unimportant trifle for them, it is fundamentally important, therefore, if the previous protocol was not agreed upon, who meets whom, who meets which hymn is he playing there, is there an uh honor guard or is there no honor guard, well, all these little things are actually discussed and it's not a little thing that they called each other friends this is an absolutely important little thing, well, it's as simple as saying gestures of courtesy, well, friends, well, a friend, my friend, valdemar, well, well, they called me friends well, i don't think that they are actually friends, well , considering how he drove in his time, congratulations , do you remember putin? well, i don't think that there is anything between

them there are some warm personal relationships. well, if we look at the relationship between zelenskyi and the president of poland, relatively speaking, or even zelenskyi and mokron, well, and zelenskyi, and what is this, we understand that all these signs met zelenskyi there or, relatively speaking, with zelenskyi with the same jo- jonsanyukom yes, so-called well, we can immediately say that with some of them they have uh, well, very close interpersonal relationships and sympathies , yes, that is, they contact uh, not only as formal persons, but with someone more restrained, yes , that is, that they all - they still communicate because it is the leaders of the states to harm the entire jinping because the friend is not very clean and reliable, and especially after the warrant for his arrest, well, somehow it is not good to get along with criminals, he is not so sentimental, and i think that they are just in this way time

demonstrated well, what is the concept of so-called responsible sovereignty? yes, because there is external legitimation. well, whether we like it or not, but we still pay attention to the attitude of other states to our behavior on the international arena, and china will use this case to demonstrate that in principle , by and large, they don't care what someone decides in the world, and they will do as they see fit. by the way , another very interesting aspect is that, on the one hand, he talks the fact that the decision of the court to issue the order is allegedly political, but on the other hand it says that china's foreign policy and international relations in general should be centric, well, on the one hand, it seems that he is spying on international law and the institutions of international law, again before that international law itself and, well, one of the cornerstone institutions. therefore, this is also a very important nuance, but i understand why he says this, because he has a certain status in the un, and here