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[000:00:00;00] did it come as a surprise for them, because my mother was very sick and passed out and we had to vacate the room from them. were you comfortable with them or not? in 10 days, we became friends with them . we have two cats. and accepted because already with cats and dogs not very well. at that time, after two months of a full-scale invasion, they accepted us on the territory of switzerland, but actually they found us in that first camp, this same flesh in the family, they are very grateful to them, the turks, but she has been experiencing for several decades the territory is more like switzerland, a very cool family, but it happened again, they liked it, it was very comfortable, it’s true, it’s a little bit higher to drive , because it’s higher in the mountains, but it’s more convenient, of course
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, down here, where the infrastructure is more developed , but they got used to it there, and we were very sorry for them to go nowhere lika we didn't know where we were going and at that time they offered us another option, at that time we didn't have to go to the camp where we stayed for three weeks, it was stressful. third place of residence na that period was and we thought that we would leave quickly and they would provide us with housing. but we were there for three weeks and everything would have been fine. we made friends with our brothers and our compatriots because there were usually ukrainians or residents of ukraine. you all lived in the same hall, and you all had a common kitchen or something. but right there in this is such a big shopping center, we
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called it aushan. well, because it was here at the moment, there were no shops there, no one was there from businessmen or entrepreneurs, it was just empty we know that there are hangars without such things in the second center. we know that there are beds and fences with nets, like banners, and 12 people in each of these cities. we were there with us, there were mostly girls, and there were times when they could in this room there is such a thing in a fenced-off room, girls and boys react, if this is a family, we built a good family, we cooked well, we did not bring food to us in such plastic boxes, and then we could eat it, but if in three weeks , we just got a little tired of it. and my
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market i didn't really want to eat because of that i was already starting to worry about finding an option with a cat, you know, and how many wanted to take with a cat, yes, with a cat. we already had such people who wanted to, and at the moment there were not so many swiss people who could be your cat . by the way, i know that there she lived separately, she was not they let you and me in the same room in this hangar in which we lived. we were not allowed with animals. because people are different, maybe someone has an allergy or someone doesn't like animals. you know , it's so small, too, it's like that. well , a shed is like that. iron, such a building is enough . good conditions but they were in cages, all the domestic animals that lived in the apartment are simply terrible. i just can't imagine my dog ​​tiffany there. that's right, let's imagine , well, if they were cats separately, there are some dogs separately, but no, there are cages, and here is
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a cat, and here once. and they brought a dog such a big or some kind of labrador, they must have already turned gray these animals, she was so sucked in by us, i apologize for the word, but she was so tired and alina and her lay down there right in the cage and cried when it was over when we had already eaten, but for us i i think i think i'm lucky, because i'll tell you where we got to . well, let's tell you, we'll see. finally , these beautiful landscapes of montreux, that's how the city is called the pearl of switzerland before that. i have been to yalta many times. i love yalta. crimea is also here before
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the war . we often went there. the atmosphere is so very, very similar in these towns. it is such a resort town . to us we were offered a hostel in which there are currently 130 people, but it is designed for 160 ukrainian refugees, so we live here in a separate room with a mother, daughter and a cat, which is small, but there is light , so this is our kitchen, the girls cook food on each floor, live there are about 30-40 people, families with children. there are even now. one family, one room. you and your family live in one room properly. yes, we live in the whole room with my mother, er, with my daughter and with a cat. finally, the cat was allowed to live. with
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the hosts, and i see a lot of supplies , they provided you with pans and dishes and everything new and towels were visible on the video, i know from the stories of my friends that the swiss, well , they were just extremely generous, brought things and everything new and toys for children to all these centers for ukrainian refugees and almost there are bicycles, scooters, all the equipment is necessary. tell me how you are with this, your experience, and my experience at the moment . when we ourselves came here to the hostel , of course we were worried about what we would sleep on, what we would cover ourselves with, where we would be to cook, because we already knew what we were going to cook. and why would we have to buy stoves or dishes, but it was such a surprise when we arrived, they let us into the rooms , and new dishes and new
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, new hygiene products and toiletries were waiting for us. paper and toothpaste and soap for a certain period, such a supply, and it was a lot of bedding, even i see well, everything down to the smallest details, so they see it all, that somehow they count, and everything is allocated to them in the budget for this, and this is also a big thank you to them, is it the state or is it from volunteers there from the swiss, that's what we got when we entered our room, it's all from the state , video, we can go get clothes there, there are new ones, but more often, of course, not new ones, but at that time, we came with three suitcases , of course we needed a lot of things even though it was already summer. there is more to such light clothes. but it is still needed , and now my child is a teenager, so she
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always wants to change into something, well, she is growing. and rina is 11 years old, of course, such a young body is just growing. please tell me how you have here the schedule of the day, you said, the girls all take turns cooking. do you have any schedule , cooking or cleaning, or who , as you can see , lives somewhere on the floor now? we have our own kitchen with 5 hotplates, three microwaves, a microwave oven, ovens, we also have washing machines, handbags for those washing machines, we have everything in a friendly way here. yes, it's me, i'm waiting, but that's how we
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live here in a friendly way, and of course they are different nuances because there are different moods, especially this is how uh, a year after the authorization of a large-scale invasion on february 24, everyone was uh, uh, upset , everyone already hoped that there would be a victory and we still all want to go home. most want units, some don't want to go home. yes, you didn't say how you cook in turn, we each cook for ourselves when needed, because there is a sufficient number of stoves, 5 stoves, 4 hotplates, ovens , there is no special schedule, we have no cleaning , the girls clean who lives here, and they are compensated for this by a small fee for theirs, this is for by desire, those who wanted were paid and cleaned. i just saw such banyaks with borscht, they were huge. i thought that everyone is prepared, each family prepares for themselves, of course, we treat each other on holidays, we can even
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sit at the common table there, but for every day everyone cooks for themselves separately, well, the pots haven't been beaten among themselves yet. have you ever not beaten the pots? well, everything happens according to the mood, you know, and it's like that, something global, eh . taking into account the fact that such a large number of people live here in a division in one place, then everything in us calm down uhu please tell me about the child's experience at school i know that in switzerland education is generally free even for foreigners however, in public schools there are private schools where you need to pay 25,000 francs a year and 25,000 francs ana wait is it not year 25,000 francs is it for a month now i am for a year 25,000 francs it is about 25,000 euros there almost one to
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one well it is very expensive tell me how arina is at school what language does she study and arina likes the language at school at the moment she studies french before that she hers too the condition is not easy to say the least, because i also study her and she communicates with the children in ukrainian mainly because her class is an integration one but the teacher is francophone . that is, there are mostly ukrainian children or a mixture. no, only ukrainian children are ukrainian , and now such a one is coming the period that some children are already starting to be transferred to a general french school, but our children study in an integration class, and she
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went to such a class, in which she studied in ukraine or to the next next class very cool, yes, the question is, because i was also surprised why yes. well, for some reason , they rush to the project in these classes. and i already know that in switzerland, children go to school from the age of four. how did they put it all together? i don't understand the level of ukrainian schoolchildren and to learn swiss, but something is being skipped over here, which i don’t even know, he answered this question because i don’t know him. i don’t know . i was interested in the answers to him. why is the child 11 years old? now the woman is in the seventh grade , although in kyiv we study in the sixth. by the way alina studies at family education of this type of education in ukraine, she submits independent test papers in the main subjects for once every three months
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so that she is credited with the ukrainian education. what was she? at the same time, they study in the first half of the day lutsk school and the ukrainian one comes out and that's it. i chose this type of education for family education. i can't imagine how a child learns french. well, she probably studied english and something at school in ukraine can still understand at some basic level, but in which language you do not know how you can understand some er-e algebra, geometry . they have it in this class, even er, they have mathematics only twice a week and there are some basic rules like that, they don’t delve into it. the integration class in which my daughter studies is done
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in french to study the french language . like, they have mathematics, a little bit of history , most physical education, there is work , they swim in the pool, and they mostly have a lot hours study the french language. i will note here for our viewers that there are different cantons in switzerland, just like we have regions in ukraine, and there each canton has its own main language . here is svitlana with her family in french. and there are german cantons, there are italian cantons, and everywhere has its own language you speak french as the main language, but in switzerland there are four official languages, the first is german, somewhere over 80% of the locals know german and use it first, but you see, if you live in a french canton, you will be
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addressed primarily in french. and if not you don't speak french, then german, they also have italian there, closer to the border with italy, and that language is romanska somehow, it's called interestingly, it 's of romanic origin, but they speak it very little here. percent, according to e-e data that currently exist there in open sources, less than 1% of the population communicates with this manx language, but mostly they use german, french, italian , and all as far as i know english, that’s how you can tell me from your experience. i think that english is a language you understand better than french, which you have not studied. so you can communicate freely with the locals, or do they all
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only want to answer in french? in our canton in cantonigo i live so really french language and even if er swiss residents of our canton speak english they still want us to communicate with them in french priority and therefore social the services that guide us to every refugee, they persistently provide us with various courses to learn this language, here i am currently. a week ago, i received a certificate of study in this language , classification a2, but i understand , i have already begun to understand. they speak, the words get tangled up, so now i understand, but speaking at this level well, a2 is what i was given
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. i still can't buy a ticket at the ticket office to go where i need to go, because by the way, the travel is free, but not throughout switzerland, but only in that area where are we located in our area tickets where do i need to go if i need to go further i can stock up in the store some elementary things to ask a of course you need to teach her and teach her then in two weeks i'm going to study the language again eh three times a week for 6 months, they are building a new level again. by the way, you said three times a week. and for how many hours? as far as i know, different countries pay different attention to the language issue, but i heard that in germany there are refugees from ukraine almost every day
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they force you to go to courses and practice for several hours, that is, it is important for them to learn the language in austria as well, so they storm you so much, let's say before that, and so , for example, i was surprised that i got an a2 and that's why i probably don't - they will provide free courses. i have already written a cv. i have already monitored websites to get a job, although for me it is very stressful to deal with this issue because i do not know the language perfectly and i do not feel confident. it is necessary to communicate. it is also necessary to communicate for it's really stressful for me, i'm a little bit of course even glad that i'm still given this opportunity to learn this language more perfectly . we hmm regarding your question about the number of lessons, we studied with our group three times a week for 3 hours 9 10 11 and
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four hours each i apologize for four hours three times a week and we were given a lot of homework and i even came here and for whole days, especially at the beginning, even to the point of tears, i tell you how it is because well, it's really hard , it's easier, that's why my child is easier. and for me of course, you need to pay more attention. i even wanted to drink ginkgo biloba to improve memory, children learn more easily, of course, you remembered for work. as far as i know , everywhere in europe, our make-up artists of the mera game are highly valued and considered cool specialists . moreover, in principle, ukrainian women or people there from the post-soviet countries, there are enough in europe, but you say the language barrier is the reason why you are not
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working yet. bet on the language, but i always think about it, of course, i am an active person. i want communication , i long for it, and i, like every person of my age, need to go to work for self-realization, that's why i've put together a resume and cv, they also have them. well, how are you? characteristic, but i don’t have it yet because i don’t have experience here. and what makes me a little sad and even a little angry is that i’m 40 years old, and i had that experience before living in switzerland. in switzerland, they don’t accept it at all, and that’s how a little, well, internally
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internal stations underestimate their self-esteem and it becomes so uncomfortable to begin with, it's strange because well, i understand. if i came there , a specialty such as narrow-profile journalism and a political journalist would be enough, it is necessary to know the legislation, the political state system of this country, so that, uh, i would be able to to work there in the field of make-up. they are in ukraine and in africa . relatively speaking, it is possible in make-up. fashion is a different trend and trends. why can’t you work there? well, because it has to be anyway. experience gained here, yes, they welcome you. when you go, you will work somewhere, you will be a passenger, yes, in our country, many girls in other fields go on internships, it is possible even for free, or there is not too much of a fee in order to give you a description and
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you can already be hired to recommend a more prestigious company or a new one. well, a more prestigious company, in fact , it is not as easy as it seems. you haven't fully integrated yet, and let's be honest, only after the new year, i actually just got over the stress and just started to come to my senses . maybe it 's different for others. in my head there is such a mess, where am i, who am i, why am i here and only now? i have already started to structure and somehow plan my life here, but i want to note that i have been here since my life, well, for some reason, as it is, i do not see it. i really want to
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to return home so as not to cry while you were there for this year you can't leave the country even a little more at home did you just not have the opportunity you can leave for up to 15 days there was no such popular need and now i think i'll go well, i don't have such an urgent need at the moment, but hm, it's like a child was taken out of the trade wind how does alina say to me that the fire is going to save us? well, i understand that there are many people there, go there in a hurry, you are all there, i miss you so much because of his stress, but i think now she is lucky . well, you know. i there is no possibility of such a doctor, because it all costs so much money. it is really 800 francs to go somewhere - this is the minimum even
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if by bus, now the bus is 190 francs . and if it is a plane, then the same amount is for one person, and there and back if you already go, then for the same she really wants her dad, she misses her classmates. she really wants to. and now , in april, there will be a vacation here, and she didn't directly beg mom. i'm begging you, be sweet, i 'm talking. well, there's no such urgent need, but the war will end, let's just drop everything and go. because of her, they left for her, and now the child is saying let's go back home, i don't understand that the danger is not over here. unfortunately , for now, today we have another massive rocket attack . unfortunately, there are also casualties among the civilian population. by the way, how are you doing with the ukrainian diaspora ? are you going to any events or volunteers? tell me more about this story
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. until then, i didn't study, i didn't go to french courses because the schedule obliges it and you must not miss it, of course i paid more attention to volunteering and we gathered they put so much food in the supermarkets, and the swiss made a donation to us. of course, the amounts are not the same, but everyone will contribute a penny, and already then the help for the armed forces will come out, and the diaspora, we are on various such measures, even now and we support each other, girls, well, this is the majority. of course, these are girls , morally and psychologically, because not everyone
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can, you know, take me out. sides of the state and our girls organize themselves ukrainian women and support each other did not consult a number of psychologists but once there was such a situation when i thought that i would not be able to do it all by myself i will not say morally very difficult free psychological help is provided to ukraine , it is possible to find everything on the internet, so use it, dear ukrainians, who already feels such a need? it is absolutely normal to contact and treat mental health , svitlanka, i have seen many photos, videos that after all, i managed to travel a little. it must have been special when travel for ukrainians in switzerland was free for a certain period
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. yes liko it is and when we crossed the border, which country was it, austria, maybe switzerland, yes, it was a lot , i don't remember and i saw at 5 in the morning alina was still sleeping. on the train, when we first got in, we saw the mountains and these clouds like those hanging above the mountains above these bare mountains, it was an incredible beauty that cannot be described in words and it seemed that it was some kind of dream. moreover, after the basements, after the sirens, it was so beautiful and there was free travel throughout june. well, first of all, a full -scale invasion until the end of june, and we had time for this month. it was a month and a half in a month and a half to travel a little because they had to take advantage of this opportunity they are likely
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beauty and a very charming eye charming eye what impressed you the most let's remember some of the most pleasant moment or place that was so impressive for you the most impressed me was the village a small town with different names is already in my head, but they are all the same names, unusual sarmatians on the border of switzerland and italy, there is such a very famous mountain matron on the territory of italy, but on the territory of switzerland this small mountain materhun, which my girlfriend and i climbed, by the way, is higher for hoverla on foot this was my first hike , i think that's why i have such an impression, this hike is from the rules , it's very beautiful, and this mountain. well, if you're interested
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, google it, look at the incredible lake on the top, these are the mountains of the small mother flora. well, i i got a lot of pleasure, although i needed a lot, i was tired then, but after that, after that hike, how many times have i been to different mountains, here in the alpine ones, because we periodically go on hikes with the girls, so i am still under the impression of that hike , the best, that is, they are really incredible the scenery is simply breath-taking, the country is very beautiful. and svitlano manages to fully enjoy it. are there still opinions in ukraine that many people agree on ? no, it doesn’t work. donbass and we know that feeling when you go on vacation
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. you turn off your brain and enjoy it. but in a new country or a new city on the territory of ukraine , you just get high from life, but here there are of course no such feelings. every morning you wake up, you understand why you are here, and today at four o'clock my mother even started to use her phone to light it, it 's already a holiday, what are they bombing there? i i'm not even asking anymore svitlanochka do you want to go back because you already answered this question what are you waiting for victory and we have an air raid again in lviv oblast so now we will move to the shelter i 'm just about to finish the program svitlanka thank you very much for telling me to us about how do you live in switzerland where we will meet soon

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