or of a lesson of only and in october 2021. when i ask, why don't i put in directly about this sort of only and i challenged him as to why he kept putting on with his political arrivals in prison. he seemed at that time pretty content to let mister and of only stay there in your mind was this tragedy of his death. i show weakness on the part of present to him, or is this just another example of what he feels as impunity? first i'm really depressed, having heard about the death of nevada, even though we don't have every proof now, it seems to be the case that business really that's really happened. and i remember my talk to nobody as when he was here in berlin. far recovering from the 1st attempt to kill him. and i'd spoke with his wife and his little son at this time and was really impressed by degrades,

as the coverage he has going back. knowing that this might be a very difficult time for him and also a situation that might cost is that because of the way of dictatorship putting developed? is it assigning all $5.00 of off of weakness? is it something that is just along the side to what he's always, or he always did, or did quite often during his reign, i would say both. this is the truth. you mentioned spending. and so when we talk about financing defense and financing wars, it costs a lot of money. and right now in germany as of last year, was the worst performing among major economies. even just last year of growth forecasts are sitting at 22 percent for 2024. and how is it possible to project strength in the face of siding recruitment? when you are essentially once again the segment of your, of we are not. this is why it is easier to say this and looking

at the strengths of germany calling me, i think we can assure everyone that we will be able to do all the task. just to give you this a view on economic developments on germany, we have the highest number of employed people ever in history of germany, a very, very low unemployment rate. we have a question of getting enough people for work for us and not the other way around, which we had 2030 years ago, as many other european countries. but this is completely not a problem for the next 2030 years. we have a lot of investments in germany, is it so electric that he could split the united states company investing, especially in germany here, tesla and the lead 100 years in germany font. but nevertheless point 2 percent is a name that race. this is beth 3 investments. this is semi conductor that will be invested in germany. and if i get it right,

the new semi conductor production sites in europe, 8090 percent of this will happen in germany. and this is something which gifts and sign of the strength of the economy economy. yes, germany is the one, the economy that this most exposed to exports. we are, is related to the figure of the number of people living in the country. 84000000 of the strongest ex, pulled nation globally. we are connected to most every country to nearly every country to the world. and yes, if there is something that is difficult and void and growth in the world, we feel it because of being linked to all the rest. but this also change again when things are changing. and just 2 days ago, i was all i was together with one of of one of the managers of microsoft that announced to invest 3000000000 in

germany. and this and the next year. and they are not the only one. so don't be afraid about this. we have, we will have the chance to do what is necessary for the defense, which brings us together here. chancellor, you say don't worry about the economy. we've got to hold on it. what about the possibility that donald trump will once again be in the white house? what is the plan to deal with that? because just a few days ago, he essentially said those who don't make their spending commitments to nato, which as of yet germany does not. he's fine with that if present, putting invades you. i mean, what is the plan to deal with donald trump? so 1st it is the american people that are taking a decision on the next president. and i think it is, it is wise just to wait for the boat, it might be completely different this. sometimes people think when there's too much and these and this a way of understanding politics, it's something that is not about serious things,

but something that is a very nice fietta. so i think we have to understand that that would be a decision. and at the time we are, we can understand also that the united states and germany, united states and europe are having a relation that is the best shape it had for many. yes. and this is re, there is a good reason for this because of the democracy, the rule of law, about our view on schuman kind, which we are sharing and having this in mind, i think it is important for all of us on both sides of the atlantics that we stick to this very successful corporation. and if you look at europe, you will see that you're is doing what it is announced. 18 countries, i guess now announced that they will this year have just 2 percent. the,

the rest of them is on the past to do so, which will really change the whole scenario. because if you come to get to the spending in europe, you will find that this is much more than russia for instance, able to spend. and though they are using all the money they on from gas oil, coal goals, uranium, silver and so on, we have to understand that they will not be able to meet the figures we are able to spend for defense just because of the success of all economies. so you're not worried about the economy, you're not worried about the potential for donald trump to be back in whitehouse, you just signed a historic agreement with presidents lewinski but towards muscles are not a part of it. can you tell us why your government is refusing to give to us most of us here? i think one in question is a bit strange. germany is as you set. and as everyone know now the country that the

spending the most for defense in europe to support you, king, it's more than 7000000000 this year and we will continue to spend a lot. but on the go as well. these are all the things in it which are necessary for defending ukraine and for giving to create the chance to defend the own country . and i think of this absolute important that we take the right decisions on the scenario we know here. and this is, we have to increase the production of munitions of, of fall, fall for weapons. so we have to make the feasible that all the maintenance could be done with the weapons that are at the war and which i used. and we are doing all these things simple, this kind of things which are necessary for a really strong ukraine, being able to defend the own country and step by step,

we always deciding what this the right thing to do at the right moment. and this is what we did so far, and we agreed with did you can government to continue? was this big support we are already organizing so you're not ruling out the possibility that at some point your government can okay towards the muscles that think we are. we are ruling out the truth that we will do enough and we will be strong and supporting. you create a politician. the sir. i have to open up for questions in just a moment. but i think who i would be remiss if i didn't mention the other conflict that so many of us are deeply concerned about an out, as of course, what's happening today in gaza. germany, the country that understands the gravity of war crimes. and when we look at what's happening on the ground and gaza, whether it's human rights groups telling us that every day these are were crimes

being committed. or if it's ox damn saying that more people are dying every single day in gaza than in any other conflict in the 21st century. how is it that a government like germany can answer those who say this is just simply half popular, say on the part of the west to ok and defend ukraine in terms of the invasion environment, put us in the illegal invasion. but at the same time, to continue to allow the atrocities that are being committed in gaza to find you answer those challenges. how do you answer that challenge and of hypocrisy? the 1st, we should not forget what this war is about. it weren't started with a very brutal aggression against it's really people buy from us and what they did that's up in october or so really something that was as brutal as you may not the mention. it was against humanity and to what all the pictures, all the firms before about the situation is,

are really something that is not the outcome of a tech just it was really against the people and it was against the old things that are important for us when we discuss about coming values. so you sort of has the right to defend the own country. and this is what the united states and we'll germany and many of us just stating that the sort of has this right and can count on us. and why is saying this and really supporting is right and it's doing well also very clear on the things that are important to be set. so 1st that she committed to reading a test to get together and more as we see today. second, that the way the war is handled is according to international law. and that we discuss about the prospective for

a peaceful relation between israel and the palestinian states to be found it. and to be built on this to state solution and thinking about what would be the future to get out of the conflict and to have a good relationship between israel and it's a rhetoric neighbors is i think key. and so i'm discussing with many of the leaders all around and enjoy the, in your, in the guitar in the united already became rates and saudi arabia and turkey and so on. and we are also giving a lot of the views we're showering. i've used also with the sort of the government, for instance, going against hapless violence, which i think is a problem. for instance, and being very clear, recommending that there should be nothing new from shooting the noise. and the old, what we are doing should be strategically clear, making it impossible that the ring iran is taking this advantage for being more

info and should in the whole region on this or is the scenario in which we are acting and old is as part of a strategy of the way how we support is right, but are also clear and the things we are asking and the monday the at the end of the day. so the message to the people over gaza is that we are very much very clear. and what i said here, so we are discussing about 2 minutes here in a we are discussing a about about the questions of how this war is going on and how it is done by the israeli defense forces. and, and we also giving them the clear view that they can count on us the union,

united states and many others. saying that we are looking for a peaceful future for them where they can live in the safe route state. and that's what we are proposing when we are supporting the idea of a 2 state solution. but tests are, you know, honestly think that they are abiding by international law and their bombardment of gaza. what evidence do you have that the israelis are biding by international law? we're asking that they do so and we are constantly discussing this question and this is, there is good reason for doing so. and it is something which is so important for all of us that we are very clear in this that all being international law. and the roots is something which is not just something we do because we subscribe some agreements globally. it is something which is coming out

of our perspective of human kind and how we want to be and how we want to see our thoughts. i'd like to open it up for questions. whoever can get to a mike 1st, since we don't have much time. i'm sorry, thank you very much, alexis country, member of the fall, them into a few great dish. oh, so the question about the nature of having ukraine is a buffer, doesn't work that they put and showed it to everybody. so ukraine should become member of nato, will germany support data in washington? sonya, and please don't answer that. we will think about a tough to the work because in put in sandwich, it means don't stop the war. don't stop it, destroy ukraine now. so please, we need these decision as soon as possible. thank you very much. thank you for your question and i would just give sent you is to say to you, but i set to all the agreements. so courageous of defending the own country. we are

really impressed by the way the ukrainian soldiers are doing their activities and the way how they defend their own country. i'm sure the putting did not expect this to happen, and he was so sure that he will be successful to conquer the whole country in 2 or 4 weeks, something like this. and so he phased with to strategy. we should never forget. got this in the beginning of my speech, i said, for this reason the queen was able to get back to the of the conquered territory. and this is a success of ukraine and to follow solidarity and not as successful for us. so the, the phase with its attempts and the question of need to, i think we are very clear, we have to decision. so we made the news, they are a clear statement about the way how we will handle things. and so it makes no

sense to go more to the details, but just say they are, we put this words down sincerely, which we mean what we've set there. so you can count on this. this is something which i think is the message which is important to you. unfortunately, chancellor, thank you so much. we have run out of time. thank you. the ladies and gentlemen, please remain c to the main program will continue in battle. now here i kind of you with dw you watching dw live coverage of the munich security conference, here in the studio with me as a dw chief political correspondent, nina hossa. we were just listening to the address of the german johnson, the law schultz. and i'm given that address is one thing,

but after that he also sat down for a very interesting interview with the se. and i would like to start with that for us, nina. because how do you think she handled those times? tough questions mentioning of the german economy, the fact of what quote the germany is, the statement that you're under, again, of course mentioning good trump. uh, add to that a europe's a still sort of showing weakness when it comes to being able to defend itself, which is something that he actually addressed in, in his speech. and of course then the taurus missiles, which i'm missing in this agreement with us, the landscapes today what, what stuck out for you there. so, so, i mean, we're dealing with a generation of deadman politicians who are beginning to learn how to speak english in discussions and in public. and i think we shouldn't forget that this is

something where some of them i'm not that the visibly struggling to get the messages across and in english compared to how they're trying to do that and in the native governments. and so this is something you still have to recognize the fact that they're trying to do that because they know that the world is watching germany, right. and they, they are with that, it is best for them to talk to people directly. i mean, said little of that love shows also in his native dumb and is somebody who will stick to was a you know, he is a lawyer by trade. you can clearly tell it is not somebody to use big ones because he, he is somebody who says i will deliver what i promise. and so he is not going to say something that hasn't been agreed with other people. he's not going to make sudden announcements is a very much sticking to what's in writing and the security agreement with your

crane. if you just want to pick out lots example. the security agreement is about security corporation, long term support for ukraine in the future by germany. so essentially it's formalizing, what's germany, what deputies already doing, but also looking at what happens in the postwar scenario. if you came, was to be attacked again by russia. so essentially laying out the fact that germany has decided to stand by ukraine side for the next 10 years. now, this is not legally binding, it doesn't contain any specific weapon systems. and of course, this is extremely frustrating for over your cravings. so having to defend their own country every day. but at this point in time to the sides doesn't see this for him to be the one where he's suddenly making a tourist announcement, taurus, missile, and delivery announcement. and he is laying out the principles of why gemini is defending, and that's something that stuck out to me. and if i can just finish this thought

a that he has of a clear message to your trans partners. he says, to me is delivery. right? and it says, we will find out now, you know, of course, how the speech by the soul is going down the drain. because between the president of unloading, mr. lensky is next now. so let's listen to is this the

thank you very much. ok. february 20 force could have marked the end of the world. as we all know, it's a world of rules rules that amounts to protect life. ours is with us and for the while i'm glad this has put on hold the destruction on the system. aerospace mall daughter 2024 must become a time for a clean restoration, overalls based walls, older lattice st. john's mom. it is not the rules that define the rules. lives should remain in deposits, but brought the site structure of that doesn't respect the rules should remain in the past. and we can ensure this,

not just by doing something by doing advertising, advertising necessary. nicole and sir, as to the rivers as different parts of the world and, and of course spanish shows and on us, there is no one to whom the ongoing war in europe does not pause us right before defiance more than just just the place of you green or the entire, you're in the world. this is ross, us war against any rules at all. but how long the that's how long will it will lead rush? i'd be like these. this is the main question to be the longer these raj and aggression against the rules based hold all the continues, the grades are,

are the changes it promotes, babs, babs, people will have to leave in a world where a local mores will not remain local to any outbreak of war or is 20 into the level catastrophe, as they have they have is the zation of, of food or migration will break existing original balances and undermine many political systems. not only, and you are a, but also in the middle east, in africa, in the americas. the haps, your is facing times when the question of invoking article 5 of need to 3 to you will not be a question for watching don't a tool, but rather for europe and capitals. the around hundreds of sites all sides of the haps. on february 23 in 2022,

none of them existed now the part a part of reality and, and what we liked in the screen led to secure to him neither for the largest nor for the smaller states. we must make security every ality and again, i'm glad to send you out to them. are you ready to leave behind ever so you value your lives in the world of yesterday? ukrainians will not do it. this is our response for the year of 2020, for the months, your score as far as from everyone in the world. if we do not know fortune, we'll manage to make the next years catastrophic, catastrophic, for all the nations as well. intelligence community are aware of this

ukraine has already seated mis, with least ross, to try to try to cloud reality and which the world unfortunately believes they miss the prosecutor capture. and all that concert in a few days or weeks whenever it was, your brain is, hadn't been holding for 724 days. the $724.00 days. what do you have believed? 725 days ago. the days that the swaps even possible, we have demolished it on the in seen raj them is about the brain as supposedly not at a real country and it was in rush or that

a message if you to the began leading to the capture of seed has internal fights and then um to march on most go, this is, this is a typical sign off and not the real estate. we have room in the midst, the garage and weapons, supposedly have some advantage over what was in reality, russia is worse in all respects. that's why, for the 1st time in russian history bout to air on and north korea to help that was a mis did. yours is too weak to defend itself. instead sort of has become a global force all becoming dependencies on the right side. you're now do months, raise the dollar community divorce to be gold, euro atlantic. they are to goes nearly 80

yourself preventing the continental war. and you are relied on the stress of the american coast. and now we see that the european goals can also be be the force that prevents kaos. every defense coalition we have created through these every security agreements we have signed implements. it's, we already have such an agreement with the you guys, and i am grateful for the security agreements with germany that we sign in with all of embedding a before. and we decided to secure the agreement between ukraine then from there we have the model in pairs. and this is just and this is just the beginning of implementing agreements based on the g 7th security. the galleries we've had sold for a long time go to bu jim, so that he, he would allow the restoration of car lo move

a man in the black sea in our black sea. but we did it without putting more than $23000000.00 tons of card what happens was forwarded through the black sea and the ukraine and export cords or seeing the beginning of this year. there is already the normal shipment of goods to china, spain easy to can easily install the netherlands to nisha live and others, some clams that there is no effective defense against harassing me, silas. and we know for sure all of us with bad threats and some of the western air defense systems. and you're awesome is all going to be shut down. and you, there are enough air defense systems in your green. we will be able to bring home millions, millions of few craniums, millions of our people, millions of our refugees,

and thank you. thank you for your attitude is all your content is for your to do to our people. thank you so much. the whole day they will come back, we will do everything for this, and of course our economy will be able to regain independence from external support . your brain is have proven that we can force russia towards read and then we are capable of restoring the rules. and with these, we live with absolutely nothing of the key. roger missed the missed. that's ukraine, supposedly cannot. we, in this war we can get our land back and forth. you can lose. and these has already happened more than once on the battlefields. our edges are

limited only by the efficiency and lens of the range of the range of all sands but, but what does not depends on us and of div cuz the diesel bruce, these exact lamp the or france. unfortunately, i'm keeping you grainy and artificial deputies or weapons, but you've learned in damages of our tutor at long range capabilities allows booting to adapt to the current the intensity of the war, the south self weakening of democracy over time undermines our joint results. roger is only $11.00 specific military advantage at this time. namely, the complete devaluation of human life. constant russian meets as souls prove these international dollar as of the lack of rule of law in roger

of to 1991 and food is policy of controlled power to have led to the effect that human life is what's last for the rest of the state. in addition to these food use years, years of self isolation and he's in community have that to the he's complete d so absolutely. he and he now openly just defies. he blew it slowly, him over responsibility for the world war 2. and he has made the genocide of our people just an ordinary part of his policy put into use as like he wants beads and a position a laser or anyone else who seems at the target. exactly. to him. of the mother of alexi,

nevada name. it's as sort to perceive boynton as a supposedly legs intimate, had offer us est, and he is a sob. who maintains power through corruptions and violence come into he's so called in a duration, shaking his hand, considering him. and they called means to his dean, the wary nature of political power, 1 may have a difference, and it is towards international institutions by the international criminal course for on, for which is, are asked for kidnapping and for stupid asian of children from ukraine. clearly do most res, we are, which is so called gary here soon. and she has only 2 options. this has to be in the dog in the hague or to be killed

by one of his accomplices, or now killing for him. the throwing the source of wars and civilizations in our task. it is fam. feel us as we all must do not do not something but ever seem possible to defeat the dresser. please everyone, remember that dictators do not go on vacation. the pays are a no snow pause. enemy, artillery does not fall silence due to procedural issues. morals standing again, the dresser mean so free, so stress. second, we said not to yeah, we'll just defeat, but didn't you this thread, toll free nations and yes,

for those whose to add them short, put him in the most or who invaded ukraine and kill thousands and thousands of people and kidnapped and deported at least tens of thousands of your brain and children, but that's not oh, which in books your chance and serials innovated yours. yeah. for the, the execution of these open is both outside the walls of the kremlin and in the, in the heart of london. and darling and yes, yes, just yesterday he tried to send us full, a clear message at the munich security conference opened. woodson murder and other position later. so please, let's not see of who does defeats and the destruction of his regime. but that's instead work together to destroy what he stands for. it is his feet too loose.

not the fates of the rose bass was older to vanish. if we don't defeats boots and now it wants immense ugly mother who's, who's the president of russia. because every new russian teacher will remember how to maintain power by mixing the lens of the people's doing openings and destroying the world holder. if this happens, you are a central agent and the whole world will be a very dark place. swords, we must close all the calls in these things just against russia, and there should be no source of the russian economy involved in these aggressive aggression. there are still free for sanctions. these particular release to the nuclear sector. also,

russian acids that that already frozen should be confiscated. and we need to go to the find fries and to securely specify every dollar accumulated by points and he's friends, force evil will never prevail if the forces of good are united and act together. history has proven it many, many times when imply so feeble bands. tyranny which seemed to internal cromwell drives in front of our eyes, and these increased the space of freedom in the world. and the bolder, bolder, and more active america was at all with the oddest on the right side of history. the more successful freedom was, the world would have long been divided among the dreams of a few dictatorships. it was not the american dream which all was left and of space

for people dreams. major decisions happening in unity of the whole world. with the united states. and finally, famous, put in must be to deprives of any ability to manipulate, to manipulate anyone in the world to constrain the security over the us. the world has a document that defines the basic needs of co existence of nations. the charter of the un, russia. these regards it's, you brand as off of the walls, it piece formula based on the principles and norms of the un charter. we have managed to united representatives of old parts of the world to war on the piece formula and to develop the deals regarding the organization of the floors global

peace assignment. the assignment is planned in switzerland and there are 2 bowls must decide how to restore the full strands of the 3 based world order almost destroyed by russia. please do not ask you grain when the war will and ask yourself, why is food is still able to continue? it's the i thank you very much for invitation. thanks for attention and uh for where instructional support of our stage, of course, of all our people. how long as children and place be grateful

to our morris. and may our worlds based on rules never become the world of yesterday. settled brain, the conference and begin. we will 1st listening to the interview that is going to follow the mr. president. thank you for your speech. i am very pleased to be able to interview you for another 10 minutes, and then we will open it to questions for a small period of time off to that from the distinguished guest present as decided to speak in ukrainian for the q and a section. so everybody,

headphones i saw that everybody decided to listen me in ukraine. now that's why i think that is, but you know what you so good in english. if i can convince you to do this in english, i would be very happy. we'll see that. okay, okay. oh crikey. all right. all right. okay. so now tell me with, is it number one in english? yes, thank you very much. yeah. okay. maybe in a mom or one. yep. but you don't need it, but i don't have the recitation. no, be you don't need it. do it's just me. i don't mean it's no user. yeah. you can take the yeah. signs up with such ok. of the ok. you want these on

whole fine whatever's issue. we'll see what he does on the board was why then? okay, we can start that. okay. okay. all right. all right, 1st name is the president. thank you for being here. and for agreeing to talk to us in front of this audience and for cnn. i want to ask you 1st, do you mentioned of dave. com? and i would like to ask you 1st about the decision of your commanders to pull back . you come on to said in a situation where the enemy is advancing on the corpses of the own. soldiers with a tend to one show advantage on the constant bombardment. this is the only correct solution. what do you expect to happen now? the good as a buying a cutter much for your equations. it's a very logical and

a fair one and a professional decision that to save as many you create a lives ok here and do right now, right. ok. what's the last name? well, it's possible to preserve the lives of our people and for us. ok, thank you. carry on the dentist, it's important for us to see the people that, sorry, not a we can get to where it's saved. our lives are soldiers because that's our defense and we are very grateful to our partners for any weapons. but clearly we weapons can know the help is to bring back just to sort of decent the territory of grand. but 1st and foremost, as we all know, it's the man is the military man who has in his arms the military people and the deliberate territories, they break douglas for the both families. and that's

a correct decision in order and not to be surrounded. the decision has been made to move back to their line and was russia has not ceased. and this thing we have to understand after those 2 years of war, russia has dried in the east of the country to do something. what does it mean to they just destroyed several small villages and towns, but to the most thing that they did, they destroyed our life. and that's why they understand the they are crazy about data or raging the interest and that they can not be successful in their offensive. and since october, they have been at that came to is poor of the of go with all there are moments with all the power that they had with found was so they are soldiers and who died. so then some thousands of thousands of debts with russia is a chief. it's a depletion of the army, and i think that this is the task that our military people are doing every

day. and while saving our lives, i think it's also incorrect decision that i mean, reconstruction would come, we're just waiting for more weapons that we're short off. we are short offer talking, telling you frankly, we don't have long range weapons. russia has it, and we have to literally that that's not true. that's why our main weapons today is our soldiers are people, and we have to have the support for our partners. so senior they to official told the f t that it is a desperate situation. few on the front lines far worse than you are actually admitting. you'll come on to said that one of the reasons that they pulled back was in just the last 24 hours. there was some 20 strikes, a 150 different shows. he said to try to erase of div costs from the face of the from the do you think this will lead to a snowball of other towns and cities on the front lines collapsing?

well, what do you expect for the next months and you just because of a dining cure for that question. you've got to go, 1st of all, this is their tactics. they're destroying complete the houses of the house or some buildings and then very trying to move into certain areas. these are a small villages or very small town. i see. and i let me repeat it again though for wished to seize them. they have adults thinking that it 2 years with we expect we expect to see what has been promised. what we have agreed upon that we would be able to even look at this guy is where the impressions have an advantage. as soon as we can do that, they don't no longer control this, and i think this is what they start to do them. you can conference 2 years ago when i said that leads you to work a little bit faster and to pay attention to the messages of ukraine that has

a lot of.