as well then progress as top calls to everyone who wants to know more about this topic. that concerned about this story is beyond the headline world in progress. the w talk costs the this is the deputy news that protect coming up on the program. why europe's effort to cub migration from africa is failing. thousands of migraines from steps are in africa have recently arrived in it's any closing tensions between european governments over who will take them. one express will tell us why europe's approach to migration from africa is not working. people will, regardless of the restrictions, the question is which pos ways that we use based on what is available. and

one month off to the parents, death of the flag, and then either you have any promotion we offer if and how the groups operations have changed. and the central african republic also on the show is done. got on kate, destined to protect the realm of 9 and spirit, the african superheroes you need to know about we will hear the stories from they created the hello. i'm christine one day. it's good to have your company. also, story begins in the north african country. it's initially a way will force ease, have intensified and operations into safe migrants will planning to reach you by crossing the mediterranean sea. as soon as a national guard says it is arrested smugglers and stopped in 2000 people. it is

coastal cities most step in health, back in the city of the specs to this, it has become a t launching pad and the crack down comes off to a record number of crossings to your i've just returned from a reporting trip in it's any way the migrants are arriving, i spoke to some of them and sold for myself. what the situation on the ground has been. i will be told him so migration policy expos off to this report that i filed from lump producer. hello from the italian island of lump a do so we're in the middle of the mediterranean and north africa. it's just $300.00 columbus is a way. and that is the reason why this is the 1st entry points for many migraines seeking to reach europe. in fact, that monuments over there is called the door to europe, while migrant frequency pos through land produced. so authority is here, were forced to declare a state of emergency when thousands of people arrived on the island in just 24

hours. the migrants are coming from tennessee and they are arriving in small boats like the ones you see behind me made out of iron. and if you look of a day, you'll see a group of people that have just landed on the island. some of the migrants that i've spoken to have told me that they've spent up to 2 days, etc. and they've paid between $5800.00 heroes for the trip. it's had and it's always, he's believed. the reason for the influx is that bad weather conditions, the seas will rest and that had created a backlog in tennessee, and as soon as the weather improves smugglers st. quotes out into the c 5 hundreds . this behind me is the only migrant reception center on the island. it is built to accommodate $400.00 people. but at the peak of the arrivals,

there were about 7000 people behind this fence. most of the migrants all from sub, for an african countries. i've made people from nigeria scenario. and that can be a guinea, ivory coast kind of rude. they're mostly young men. but they are awesome women and children suit to spend more than see this is what say say it was, i wish i totally via to this. i'm go to a better place because i still felt it looked, envision a, had to somebody off. i mean, you have to walk. oh, nice. yeah. so do you want to make off? i'm really proud when i make everything easier for them, for creating editors and all you go to success. are they, are you, i'm a products are they are. these are hard for them, while they're all, some refugees, most of the people who has arrived sales coming from countries that are considered safe. so they don't qualify for asylum. european government wants to make sure that those on to and, and get asylum. i'll send back to the countries that they've come from as soon as

possible. at least that is what the chief of the european union said when she visited here. those who cannot qualify for silent sign them cannot stay in the european union. we will reach out to the countries of origin. to facilitate this process, we will decide who comes to the european union and under what circumstances we must set up our efforts to fight this marvelous. we have to join forces with the countries of origin and the countries of transit to crack down on this brutal business. but that personal business is thriving on demand poverty and insecurity on the rise in many parts of africa, rubbing people off prospects and leading them to seek security and renal policies in europe. and now joined by all to the amount guy needs a from the institute of security studies c as in boy and analysts. the portfolio

covers international human rights, little as well as the patient trends and policy. welcome to dw, use africa, or tenure. we're seeing more and more people leave africa to reach your by crossing them. it's raining, you money. so migration trends on the content. what have you observed about the volumes in which people are leaving and the faxes that are pushing them to do so. it's now just as europe is finishing its summer season into, into autumn, we are seeing an increase in the number of people that are attempting to cross from africa to europe. you regularly. there's a number of reasons why people are on the move. most of them coming from countries out of west africa across the somehow into the horn. and the primary motivation is really all the things that are pushing them out include a conflict climate impact or challenges in terms of governance. but moving towards

europe in the hope perhaps to get a better life. but one of the main reasons that we find more and more people's opportune for the regular channels is that the regular legal channels to get to your are increasing the increasing the restrictive. so more and more people still wanting to move to your find themselves opting for very dangerous routes, right? as we have seen in recent days. but i'm sure as we'll continue to see throughout the parts of fulton. right. and i do want to pick up on that points in a short moment, but i want to begin by asking you about your strategy, which appears to be sensitive on stopping the flow of people. and that involves agreements with countries. action is yet way we will see the european union pay. hundreds of millions of yours sits and is here in exchange for the 2000000 government holding people back incident as a you have been critical of that agreement. in particular. can you tell us why?

says it's a cost be strategy, and it's not a new strategy. so which countries are now being involved? for example, in the african continent, the recent deals with 2 lives. yet that may be part of the difference, but these are, this is a strategy rhonda that the european union has been trying to get results from since at the very least 2014. so it's over 9 years of the strategy to push back you regular migration. but what we know is that this is not actually reduce the numbers, but it just only made people take more dangerous routes. oh, today i was recently in a lump of just the and some of the migraines that i met told me that it's, it's almost impossible to get a visa to come to europe and to the point that you were making 10 years. well perhaps, how can you do best uh, uh,

in the way of offering more legal pathways for people to migrate. this is inevitable. people wants to move. uh uh, and i think you've used to hit the nail right on the head. the people not really wants to move, but the people will move regardless of the restrictions. the question is, which pos, ways they will use based on what is available at the moment, not only is in a financial cost, but it's the, the, the, the, the scope of the requirements to get a visa. and i'm not talking just about a visitor's visa into your but perhaps of the work to study. i a to stay is extremely, extremely high. this is not to say the people that are all crossing you regularly on not spending hundreds of dollars in order to do so. but then they have the assurance, so to speak, that they may reach the shows of your where is through the visa process using the

to easier deal as an example. one of the tradeoffs so to speak was do i located just over a 1000 of these is annually to, to this end. but what we know is, you know, you're out of north africa to news. you have the highest number of people that seek to migrate to ones you're switching it about 40000 applicants. so 1300 a visa is being provided with over 40000 want to move mean that the remaining at 39000 or so people will look at the channels. and unfortunately, that channel, as we've seen, and not only those that actually make it across, but the many people that have lost their lives on that journey, the people will still wants to move at what cost. right now it's a human cost, not just the financial cost. i would say that when you listen to some governments

in europe as they they, they, they say that the migration flows from africa are a challenge. they refer to this as a crisis. in fact, some of the visuals in the government and easily called the reason to rivals on the island of num, a lot produced, the war and europe. that kind of language is it exaggerates, its considering the actual numbers of migration from africa to europe, and the fact that for the most part, migrants in africa, i'm more likely to migrate within the continent. then they are to lead the content . it is so over 80 percent of people from africa migrate with in the african continent, choosing countries that are closest to them. so neighboring countries, the remaining percentage go elsewhere in the world of which europe is only one of those destinations. so when i hear some of the rich trick but seems to suggest um whether it's the language around waves of move, mental or on on here. if i'm not,

if it is change with the fact that these are people coming from africa, the people that are moving from eastern europe, for example, towards a year, it's been out of the african continent there, increasing the more people that are coming out of the middle east and further in asia towards um, towards europe and africa. and so the question is, why is it only a crisis when it's africans losing? and we've touched on some of the reasons project because of course, the barriers to entry legally. they put it in that way. the 2nd is perhaps the lack of interest fiction on the project here. and that is part of the current deals that are being negotiated, but not at the level that it could be. which is that you're, it is an agent confident in need incidental meet off a lot of workers, whether it's on funds or whether it's in other industries. and it is simply not growing at the rate that would allow for rates to have that made the force. so

perhaps what needs to be happening is the present magic conversation between here and africa, but looks at what all the needs of both continents, but also an honest reflection that looks at what all the drivers pushing people out . that requires accountability also on the african end, but also on your side as well. that actually reaches a better agreement, like i said, um, putting hundreds of minutes, even billions of euro and throwing it and what is perceived as the problem. and not addressing some of the key drivers as to why people are moving in to 3, maybe even 10 years time. we will be having the same conversation about this issue . but if it's not addressed properly, it may then be the crisis and at prices that is either a reversible or to the amount that needs

a from the institute of security studies. we really appreciate your insights on the program today. thank you. thank you very much. you're watching data, the news africa still to come. the characters on display at west africa is largest comic arts exhibition. but 1st, it's been one month since the russian mercenary anita, you have any promotion, was reportedly killed in a plane crash in russia days before his death provision had been in the central african republic where he's wagner, group is in charge of president forcing options to adair as security, but since per goes in states, there is division in the country over 5 and his present state w as the quotes are ty, at how many reports from monkey play. so i do have never met

no c. yep. guinea pig machine yet. he's a pro maxima support, i am a strong believer in the groups of presents here in the central african republic di trays all of his friends, i think, to bring to gene a, be some documents that do in the heart of the copy to the one to show their respects to the head of the butler group after he gets in on explicable plane crashing and rushing out on the 23rd of august. under the, if i miss julia, the like can measure the greatness or the added value of what the wagner's have brought to the central african republic. the it'd be, in previous years, we have had peacekeeping missions, didn't emissions that were sent to the central african republic to secure our borders. but what did this achieve in terms of results? yeah. what did we seem to make? what did we know now that we have only known repeated coup? it's because of all we must support russia so that we can never again speak of such a rebellion in the central african republic. grandma women examine and we'll

probably do cuz we don't do the central african republic has been in the midst of cities of c. b was c is 2003, which left 3 quarters of the 33 on the rebel control to be a submitted 1000. in fact i'm, i see nobody's a special needs and they sent a lot to come republic 1st came to the country in 2018 to help the government of president for the rock defeat riddle force east on for you. in a security vacuum left my funds up, we drew it's military forces from the country in 2016. a lot of people in the central african republic think the rack know group together. we did one on troops have done more to quote the countries many rebellions inventive range and the u. n . forces combined, while photo observe us accused the russian problem industry of committing atrocities. the majority of the cdns here, i think the success of these was the price your but while the back to

that group has many support us in the country, it also has its openings. the central african republic opens each on the lead to how much come home was the former prime minister in president company and some buttons as the transitional government and is currently lead of the be a freak out. the quick opposition party, meaning the central african republic for school. he sees the missing. nobody's don't belong in the central african republic and also in law. uh, sam, who can not only is it a group which does not come to help to develop and foster please in africa, this group is made up of people who came for self interest and benefits. and this was whether it's the charter of the african union or the charter of the united nations deactivate the other band. they have come to the wrong cause and the wrong reason. keep on it today. central africans are paying the price for their negative presence. since the voc doesn't came in here on the dement exploring our timber, our minds, trade, etc,

and for matthew have created unfair competition in terms of security. a country like c a r should instead rely on credible partners. we'd precautions debts. the question on many minds is whether the butler group will continue each corporations if the central african republic, but this time on the criminal authority. and if so, what will happen to the country if the rush? so we drove the soldiers due to the pressure of the war in ukraine, and to talk more about this wave in vi. so john, national into the program. he is a jealous and researcher who has worked in the central african republic. he's kind of erasing a book on dividing a group, it's due for publication next to welcome to data, be news africa. it's been almost a month since the head of the volume, the group, if any provision died. how has that impacted volume is, was in the central african republic from thanks for having me. i think the short answer is it doesn't seem like there has been, there has been much of

a visible impact on foreigners operations in the central african republic. we saw the referendum go through uh, pretty much without a hitch in terms of the any opposition from the army, various our groups. we continue to see a wagner presence, especially in the capital as well. and some of the more prominent representatives of faulkner who, who were major figures under you can produce and continue to be in car and been in the as well. and so we've honestly just not seen any, any significant type of personnel changes or, or any real change to the status quad. me and john, we know that brushes priority right now is the goal in ukraine. what does this mean for its presence in africa through the private admitted trees? life devolved in a group tour. i think i or i think africa obviously is not

going to be a priority like ukraine for it, for the kremlin. certainly not any time soon. but at the same time, especially following versus full scale invasion of ukraine last year, i think the narrative that moscow is not geo politically isolated in the narrative that russia is a layer. and in this new wave of the colonization has become increasingly important. and so to the extent to which russia and uh, you can kind of hold that narrative, especially in africa. it is important right now to a lot of folks in the kremlin it's, it's been suggested that the valves in a group could be a model for future russian foreign policy in africa. what are your thoughts on that? i think wagner has played such an interesting role in the sense that we have,

we have to think about russia and the way that russia is governed in a lot of respects, like other countries, things, there are competing individuals and institutions who have either owned foreign policy priorities and specifically to russia, we see that there's often not a lot of guidance from the center from blood ever putting himself in his gifts. sort of outsized freedom to specific individuals to go out and pursue foreign policies that but uh they can frame as kind of a whole day or, or, or further in groceries interest. but also projects that are profitable to their own bottom line. are you feeling pretty goshen involvement or what were at the forefront of that in africa? and i think a lot of respects we can say that wagner was actually key in, in creating what breakfast interest in africa were. we know that russia doesn't have a significant tre figures with the continent, or are they, you know,

certainly not compared to the china, the in the, in the united states. but they have successfully exported essentially this bmc model the security model. and so i think we will continue to see that in the future we're rusher. really focuses on places where it has an advantage. all right, that's john collection of thanks so much for sharing your insights. and we hope to bring you back on to the program with new books been published. thank you so much. and now to nigeria with the largest comic us exhibition in west africa, is opening eyes and hearts to a new way of looking at super hear a c w use a mac. oh koya. went to take a look the these adult super here is something fresh. we seems like

a barbara would you call corey leasing, leasing or russia. these a spirit guardians, a new generation of african coming foot couches re defining stereotypes. some to is one of the creators whose work is being shown in this hollow spirit exhibition. we realize that in every face that of a society, we africa, there's a spirituality to it and we wanted to own it in a put in a time where it was being demonized. and that was really important for us to take it off ours. um, find our pride in its find our loved minutes and make it all home because it truly is so, and that's really the core of us. so it's adding some to on his team one to reintroduce african ms. follow g to young nigerians by incurring his comic books story telling in african identity what telling the story of the um connect most so to where i from which is will be 90 and not being very much i do single. i was looking all

cultures. this always come from all our cultures and traditions, which is fruits fiction. that's what we've done this all around. people necessarily have as much representation in terms of comic arts in general. so this is an opportunity for us to showcase the tenants and the crafts and the creatives that are in the industry and also invite people to come and see the different possibilities that there are something before it goes to that i'll be doing it for . so like it's cool, somebody generally visitors to the exhibition not only gets to see new all to a can talk about it. they also have the options to try out some sketching themselves. some to does not draw or paint. he calls himself a creator because he develops characters and stories, but works with animators to create them. i discovered stumbled on animation by meeting a brilliant artist. um uh, and i had

a lot of stories that i wanted to tell and i realize that that was a perfect way for me to tell them. um, and that's what i still do. i'm, i'm not an artist. i don't, jo, i doing 90 minutes. i don't a whole depends um, but i try my best to be the mind that tells the stories the pen can illustrate. so these are the people who use the pen. all of its electronic was the team creates animation, comics, and cartoons that focus on african style and culture. vx, the vision is an important step in as an african spirit, guardians, to the global tennessee. i'm of comic book characters for adults and the next generation of food is isn't it nice to have a sleepy here that you can relate to? well that is it for the program. and as always, there is more a website that's d, w dot com, forward slash effort can also i'll social media accounts,

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