ah, ah ah, this is dw news lie from berlin, nato had yen stoughton burg says that ukraine will become a member of but it needs to when the war against russia. first, ukraine, thoughtful price is in a natal outs, olives, half agreed up. but also that the main focus now is to ensure that ukraine pervades because if your credit doesn't prevail, as a sovereign in pension and motion in europe, there's no meaning in discussing membership of

ah, i'm sorry, kelly. welcome to the program. nato secretary general young stilton berg says that the alliances members all agree that ukraine will become a member. stilton burg made the statement ahead of a meeting of the ukraine defense contact group at ramstein air base in germany. but he's added that nato's priority is supporting ukraine's war effort. a sudden key of yesterday i got the ukraine soup future is in your account, the family, an all new dollars have agreed that the ukraine will become a member of. but the main focus now is of course on, on how to ensure that you create a place. and jack parrot and dw correspondent has more now from brussels. jack, how big a deal was that statement?

it's a pretty big deal is pulling that is, you know, it's causing some, some headlines all over the world because what his expression is, is that all he understands that all of the 31 they 2 members are in agreement that ukraine should be a member. this isn't necessarily a new position. we've heard from nato and from many major countries that they believe that ukraine should join the military alliance. but this isn't, and i think it's important to state this isn't signing on the dotted line. this isn't the fact that nato and this extra general yen stoughton berg have been given the permission to invite them formally to become a nato member. it is a significant expression that he's made though that he understands. this is what we have to read from this. the, from his negotiations with the leadership in the governments, in all of the 31 countries that there is a collective agreement that ukraine should eventually be invited. but what does it actually mean in practical application jazz? because as we understand it, ukraine cannot become

a member before the war is over. no, that's right. so under nato agreements and, and also, you know, on the demand of the nato countries, they will not accept a country into the military alliance. if that country is in a conflict, and the reason is because in under article 5, it's called of the nato treaties. there's a one for all clause which means that if one country is attacked, that they can call on all of the other countries to come to their defense and come and support them. and so if a country is at war i, when they join, than all of the other countries will immediately be dragged or could immediately be dragged militarily into that war. not just in the support that the many of the nato countries have been giving to ukraine already, but they would be required, potentially to send their own militaries in to support that war efforts. that's just simply not going to happen at the moment. stilton burke statement?

oh, it does suggest that nato members are indeed pulling together when it comes to ukraine . is that your impression as well? i think we've seen a lot of support the ukraine as far as you know, trying to support them in the war effort to fight off the russian invasion. i don't know if my impression is that that, that all of the countries are entirely in favor of ukraine becoming a nato member. we saw at the nato summit in madrid in the summer of last year at finland and sweden were formally invite join. finland has now joined, but sweden hasn't. and that's because turkeys put a block on it because they accuse sweden of supporting and harboring kurdish what they see is terrorist. and that means essentially that there's a, a, you know, a block on sweden hungry is also putting a block on, and there is a potential that other countries could put a block on ukraine as well. but many other issues, important to remember as well as a turkish election coming up next month,

a u. s. election next year, as well for big nato military powers. who could also change their position on this, despite what you installed and bogus me saying that all countries are now in favor of ukraine joining didn't. you corresponded jack, paris, and brussels. thank you. and that's bringing the that he has met his building or who has the view now from keep. so matea suttonberg statement will surely be welcomed in ukraine. of course it will. ukraine has said you crazy government has said that they wanted to join nato. ukraine is also saying that the war should not be an obstacle to this membership process, and that this should be started. now. stoughton berg has not said anything, as we've just heard on that. and he has not or announced any specific measures. and it's certainly welcome as a gesture, but if, if you look at it, it will not change the situation here for the key of government on the ground.

right now. mathias bellinger and keith. thank you. and for the kremlin reaction last spring, and d, debbie is former muscularity theory of a shadow. he joins us from reagan now. as d. w is banned from reporting in russia. europe. what is the kremlin likely reaction to this? what is their position? so thought they are, and so far we haven't had any official reactions from moscow. and what is clear is that the kremlin will regard these rewards by nato secretary general stilton book as a new level of escalation. in other red line, which moscow has been talking about for over a year, and which at least until recently has made the west act cautiously in military support to ukraine. because we remember that put in was already talking about the red lines before the war. the russian, a foreign ministry sent in december 2021 proposals to the years with a security guarantees for russia. and there was, among other things,

the demand not to admit you, great, intimate. and even then there was talk on overhead lines for a long time. this was seen as the reason why some west, your personal european countries, including germany, were hesitant to supply ukraine with heavy weapons. you're a, how might we expect russia in the kremlin to react if ukraine would become a member of nato? at some point in the future. well yeah, various scenarios are possible from ignoring, but i don't think so us who rhetorically heating back to the at least theoretical use of the nuclear nuclear weapons with we trasha is constantly threatening. we only heard from ex president midvale if last night that even the military jets, that western countries would supply to grain in the future if they are sort serviced, for example, in poland, this would be a direct entry of naval into the war against the russian federation. and the same time, any one who makes such decisions would have to be considered as

a legitimate military target. min video said these words from the former president have to be taken with a pinch of salt because he's in recent months, extremely harshly criticized to the best. and that is because mid video is clearly working for the political internal market, so to speak. he w 0, a shadow reporting from rica. thank you. now, yen stockton, burges remarks on ukraine joining nato come as western military leaders gather in ramstein air base and germany to discuss supporting ukraine's defense against russia's invasion. ukraine has been demanding fighter jets for months and is finally starting to get some poland. and so lakia are handing over their soviet era . meg 29th. let's find out more about these aircraft. this is a slovak in mig 29. the model that was once the pride of the soviet union's air force on its way to ukraine last month. the meg 29 came into service in

1983. at the time arrival to us built f sixteens, a product of the race to rule the skies during the cold war. ukrainian pilots are already trained to fly the plains. so in theory, they're ready to go. on paper, the mig $29.00 looks impressive. it can max out at 2400 kilometers per hour. it's ranges over 2000 kilometers, and it can fly up to 18 kilometers altitude. ukrainian president followed me as lansky says he's thankful, but that ukraine needs much more to ship. i'm grateful to poland and i'm grateful to slovakia for their decisions on megs for ukraine re this will significantly strengthen the defense of our sky, but we need modern aircraft. i understand exactly what we've been saying, or is there a rational motivation for the delay in providing modern aircraft?

just if you take the word modern is the key here. russia has been using a range of attack aircraft and ukraine, some developed decades after the big 29 to top that off, many of the polish and slovak planes headed to ukraine now are in bad condition. they may end up being used to provide part to repair ukraine's existing air force. he has previously called for a fighter jet coalition for ukraine, which would use newer planes made by different nato countries that may still come. but for now, the mig 20 nines will have to do the world health organization is reporting that 413 people have been killed and more than 3500 injured in, suzanne sudan. since the violence broke out 6 days ago. there is no sign of an end to the conflict despite repeated calls for

a cease fire from the un. the regular army as fighting a key paramilitary group called the r s f. the military says that it is committed to a promise to transition to civilian rule, but will only accept the surrender of the r s f. the law gunfire and call to me as fighting goes on despite hopes for a cease fire. awe in a pre recorded message released to the end of the muslim holy month of ramadan. sedans, top general said the military still back to return to civilian rule subway. in an icicle, you are confident that we will overcome this ordeal with our training, wisdom and strength for preserving the security and unity of the state or loving us to be entrusted with the safe transition to civilian rule. one mother. still,

many residents are making last minute attempts to leave sedans, capital city, people at this bus station, a trying to get on one of the few buses, still offering their services. oh my wonder what our mom, i'm praying for safety and that god in the bloodshed. we're praying, they reached an agreement and god ends bloodshed of all muslims are going on with hopes for a sci fi were high on wednesday, but a low in fighting never came about. sedans, army says it will not negotiate with the countries. rival paramilitary rapid support falls group, it means more suffering for the civilians trapped in the conflict. on behalf of was added to suffolk, it brought assuring, according to the health ministry 20 hospitals have had to shut down because of attacks and lack of supplies about a little lock beside the dock. a block

o 8 more health centers are at risk of closure because of work overload and a lack of medical personnel. brofy that we call on all parties to commit to a sustained humanitarian pause and fighting as soon as possible. suddenly molest washington says it's sending more troops to its naval base in the nearby southeast african country of djibouti to prepare for a possible evacuation of u. s embassy employees. other nations are also planning to get their people out. people have been really kind and helpful to us at the same time feeling also getting more and more desperate went down to foreclose, had to buy food and it was a huge flight breaking out into, you know, as people get more and more desperate than things get more and more tense, so people's access to resources is dwindling. and you know, that's been it things start turning for the worst out. a virtual meeting with

african and arab leaders. un chief antonio gutierrez, called for a 3 day truce starting from friday. the paramilitaries have said they have agreed to a cease fire, but with fighting still going on many a packing their belongings and leaving while they still can. twitter has begun to remove blue texts which were used to verify the identities of high profile users. on the platform. famous figures including the pope and donald trump, have lost their verified status. twitter owner, ellen mosque said that the blue check mark would be removed from accounts that didn't pay a monthly fee mosque said that he is paying personally for some subscriptions, including those of author, stephen king, an m b, a star lebron james of next sunday, debbie or the documentary shattering the glass ceiling. women in architecture. do stay with us if you can for that. i'm sarah kelly and berlin. thank you so much for watching. take care. ah.

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