gas lit by this administration and media. i think "the new york post" has a good article about the immigrants coming in and the bermuda trial of money, $10,000 to illegal immigrants. we are flooding the country with illegal immigrants. already some of these people from africa have been criminals, murderers coming in. anyway, $10,000 to illegal immigrants in debit cards? are we living in the matrix? this is insanity. trump is not perfect but at this point, we have no choice. that last guy on was a clown. that lady from new york also -- >> good afternoon, cpac.

what an honor to be with you today. it is so great to be with you. thank you for being true patriots and loving america. you had met me before and you know my background and history. i am a farmer, ranger from south dakota who is blessed to be the 33rd governor of the great state of south dakota. [applause] i was raised by a family who worked very hard. they solved problems, believed in personal responsibility and not waiting for the government to be the answer. i love the outdoors. most of the time working in the dirt and being comfortable in my jeans and wearing of all caps. as governor, my hours are often filled with something different. i am here today to let you know 2024 should not be a year where we get hung up on dirty politics. where one disagreement were picking our leaders on how long they've been in the senate or how many speeches they give each

year. the choice is clear. two kinds of people in this country right now. there are people who love america and there are those who hate america. [applause] those who hate america working every day to destroy it. joe biden is destroying america and taking away your freedom. we can't just sit around complaining about it anymore. we need to do more. i was recently asked an interesting question by group at a chance to speak to cut a leadership class and they asked me a question from the audience is said, governor, how do you make your hard decisions? i thought, you know what? it is not hard. it is easy because i know the foundation i need to start from with every single decision i make as governor. i told them a little how when i first started to run for governor of our state it was clear it was going to be a

different race than i had ever run before. it was showing up in my pole and it was going to be an issue i was a woman. south dakota has seen women lead before a business and state legislature and congress that we had never had a female governor before. we never had a woman as a ceo of our state. i had spent my entire life in a man's world. my dad was my best friend. i was usually one of the very few women driving semis hauling grain, serving and leadership in our state legislature, even during my time in congress i was one of just a couple of women on the leadership team making decisions on policy. it was normal for me to be one of the few women in the world -- in the room and nothing out of the ordinary. i remember the day i was being sworn in to office as the first female governor of south dakota.

much of that ceremony that day was dedicated to the historical nature of that event. i was being sworn in to office on the 100th anniversary of women getting the right to vote in our state for the first time. [applause] as the ceremony went on and the speakers continued to point out the significance of this anniversary and me taking the oath of office, started to hit me. for the first time i thought, wow, this is kind of a big deal. i looked around the capitol rotunda and saw it filled with hundreds of people. for the first time i started to notice all of the little girls and the women. i realized this was going to be a part of history. they were getting to see someone who looked like them take on a different role. for the first time i started to get nervous. i thought, i better not screw this up. as i sat to be sworn in by our

chief justice, placed my hand on my dad's bible and raised my right hand, i realized i was only making two promises. i was promising to uphold the constitution of the great state of south dakota and uphold the constitution of the united states of america. two promises. i can do that. from that moment on, every decision i make starts with asking the question, is this constitutional? do i have the authority as governor? what authority do i not have? what is the responsibility of the people? i think you all know little bit about the decisions i've made. the last several years we saw government leaders in other states use fear to control people, promote their agenda of socialism and control. that has not been our story in south dakota. they took away in other places people's freedom of assembly. they took away their freedom of religion and freedom of speech. but now they are threatening our

states right to protect our people. i was only governor in this country that never once closed a single business. [applause] i never mandated anything from my people, never told anyone they could not go to church. we were the only stager turned on the elevated unemployment benefits because our people wanted to work. we trusted each other and got three challenges together. we are stronger because of it. today south dakota is thriving. because of the decisions we have made, we broke the record for the lowest state unemployment rate in the history of america at 1.8 percent. [applause] we have unprecedented population growth, historic revenues, aaa credit rating, fully funded pension system, and paid off debt. we were the first state to

eliminate fees for concealed carry permits and we will even pay for your federal background check. [applause] when the federal government tried to push the central bank digital currency, we were the first state in the nation to veto that and say no way, not here. [applause] we have built roads, bridges, dams, and even a railroad. who built railroads anymore? we do. we put high state internet across the entire state. we have the highest birthrate rate in the nation. people are having babies. i love it. we do not have an income tax. we have no personal property tax. last year we pass the largest tax cut in our state's history by lowering our sales tax to 4.2%. we are one of the few states

with mental health challenges going down. we have the lowest drop in overdoses the last couple of years as well. what does this say? this says our people are happier. they are happier because they are free. leadership matters. i'm just going to say it, joe biden and kamala harris, they suck. [applause] to be honest with you, we should not look to congress for the answers, either. the gridlock on capitol hill is not going to break in time to save america's. we need a president who will. 5-0 is believed in support affect our next president needs to be president trump.

we have incredible cash two years ago, i was at the southern border. i was the first governor to deploy national guard troops down to the southern border to protect our country. other states are following our lead and sending their national guard as well. innovation of our country is happening. our border is a -- an invasion in our country is happening. our border is a war zone. i was alarmed recently to hear democrats encouraging biden to federalize the national guard under title x to take them away from the control of governors and take away my ability to be their commander-in-chief of the national guard. i recognized them easily the danger in the threat. if the president took that action to remove me as commander-in-chief of my south dakota national guard, it would be the first time in american history that a president paid soldiers to stand down, to not protect our country. i went to the board at the next

day. i offered to bring razor wire so texas would know south dakota stands with them and i would and i wanted them to know we will defend our states rights to protect our people, protect them from a corrupt federal government. when i came home, i gave a joint address to my legislative session and that very day, our state legislature passed a resolution in support of securing our border and standing with texas. south dakota was the very first state legislature in this nation to take such an aggressive action and i am so proud of them for doing that. [applause] this week, i announced we will deploy national guard soldiers to the border for the fifth time. this time they will be constructing a wall, a barrier [applause] a barrier to keep those who want to come to this country

illegally out and to stop them from trafficking drugs, from proliferating sex trafficking over women and children and stop the human -- the inhumanity of joe biden for policy. my people are affected by the open border every day. i will do all i can in south dakota to bring back peace and stability where joe biden has brought destruction and death. we note that china is taking advantage of the situation. they are funneling men and women enter our country and many dangerous criminals and terrorism other countries who hate us are making their way here, too. some countries are renting out their prisons and mental health institutions to send their responsibility to us to handle. these countries are infiltrating us to destroy us and they are doing it from the inside. i saw this coming. i was the first governor in the country to ban tiktok for state government devices. [applause]

> i know how china is using that to collect our data, spy and manipulate our opinions and our ideas. since then, dozens of states and even the federal government followed my lead and took action. apparently, joe biden gets a pass for his campaign but whatever, joe. we need to face the fact -- joe biden is not fit to be president and kamala is no backup plan. they have facilitated communist policies, socialist programs into our american democracy. it is not the government's job to simply do everything for people. it is the job of the government to empower people to do things for themselves. [applause] >> we have a clear choice -- i was one of the first people to endorse donald j. trump to be our next president. last year, when everyone was

asking me if i was going to consider running for president, i said no, why would you run for president if you can't win? [laughter] >> i didn't say that to be nice. i said it because it was a fact. no one we knew could be donald j. trump. we've known that for over a year that he's the only person who has the support to be the republican nominee. [applause] >> why did all these other people in -- and candidates get into the race? for themselves? for personal benefit? for a spotlight for a period of time? it did not and it does not strengthen her country if conservatives are not united enough to recognize we need to win. we need a fighter. we need someone who doesn't give up, who has never quit on us so don't you quit on him. president trump [applause]

>> president trump, he broke politics in 2016. he just did. i think that's a good thing. because he is real. he is not perfect, none of us are but he cares about you. what i love about him the most is he doesn't think he's better than you. luckily, we are not going back to the good old days of the romney's and the cheney's [applause] >> the republican party is much bigger than that now. we are filled with blue-collar workers, many cultures, perspectives and viewpoints. but most importantly, we all love america and we realize what a gift this country is. this country is the greatest experiment in humankind. if we lose it on our watch, where will we go? where is there another country that is better or offers us more opportunity? it just doesn't exist. for me, there is no going back.

i am all in. and you need to be, too. [applause] >> we need to look for our leaders outside of the swamp. nobody turns to d.c. for the solutions. nothing meaningful gets accomplished here. governors have had to leave and i have seen governors make bad decisions in devon eight their states and we have governors that did the right thing. for me personally, i put my foot on the gas and promoted freedom, personal responsibility and our constitution. today, south dakota and are happy. they are making decisions for the jones education and pursuing the american dream. there is a famous quote from margaret thatcher where she said god needs no faint hearts for his investors. with your help, we can always do more. if america wants to be great again, i suggest you take a look

at south dakota and see all that we have achieved and then vote for president trump. [applause] i want to thank you for your dedication to freedom. you are inspirational. i want you to leave here and go be hopeful and be happy. may god bless you and may god bless the united states of america. [applause] >> thank you. ♪ ♪

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>> ladies and gentlemen, this is what you are talking about, willis. please welcome the chairman of the u.s. house committee, jim jordan and cpac chairman matt schlab. ♪ >> hey guys. i get to ask chairman jim jordan questions. he's usually the one. let's start off with what's on a lot of people's minds. does he not understand we can still be friends? but the love is over? does nikki haley not get what we are saying? [laughter]

>> i didn't know that was going to be a question. president trump will be our nominee and i think he will win. he is the one per person in my lifetime who did more of what he said he would do than any president have ever seen. i love the line -- we talk about the weapon they sent government but look at president trump and the escalation that the left and the government have taken going after this guy. it started with his campaign and it was the muller investigation and then impeachment and then a raid on his home and then it the 14th amendment. he has two state cases and two federal cases and all the indictments, it's gotten ridiculous but he has a great line -- he says they are coming after me because inviting for you and that is so true. that's why i appreciate president trump. >> let's get behind president trump. [applause] >> he actually changed it. when we were in iowa, we had this nice rally which was -20

degrees but he change the line and said they are coming after my freedom because i'm fighting for yours. i told him i said i like that even better because it is so true and so accurate, what we see with the federal government and these agencies are what they are doing to we the people and he is fighting for us. let's get behind him and make sure he wins in november. >> i'm not sure of jimmy kimmel live understood what the title of this conversation is. what are you talking about, willis? did she get back to you today? >> not yet. >> is she supposed to get back to you today? did you hear from her boyfriend? [laughter] >> i said, fani willis and nathan wade. we haven't heard back from her yet we will see what we get from her but there is a whistleblower in her office who we have talked to on her committee staff. [applause]

>> the whistleblower i think she is like four foot 11 but bonnie willis had police escort her out when she fired his lady because this lady raise the concern that ms. willis was not spending federal funds, not following the rules of the grant dollars in the appropriate manner. she raised this concern and is now talking with our office. we will see where that goes and that's why we subpoenaed for records and documents related to this. we will see what we get. she was also interesting. instead of accepting service on the subpoena, she met us at the u.s. marshals. we had correspondence back and forth and she made the u.s. marshals take the subpoena there. go figure, this is fani willis and we also her at it -- and we also her attitude on display. >> i thought it was a skit but an act we was real-life. >> it was real. >> we sent out a tweet that said we didn't invite fani willis to

cpac but there is a bonnie sandwich with a chaser of grey goose vodka. >> if you have enough cash in your pocket. the comedy routine from this coming out today, that's awesome. [laughter] >> it's been a long year. >> we appreciate what you do them we appreciate what cpac is meant for conservative principles for a long, long time. [applause] >> thanks a lot. you are a hero to a lot of us for a lot of reasons. you have 100% rating in our scorecard, you've had positions of importance and big titles and you always do the right thing and you always vote right. how come you don't wander off and get potomac fever like everone else gets? because you're not a senator? because >> there is lots of good senators. i appreciate that. i say this all the time, i think

we make the job too complicated. you're in public office and it's really your objective which is basic. what did you tell the voters you were going to do when you ran for the office? if they elect you, do what you said. go fight for the things you told them. that's how this compact works between the elected officials and the people we get the privilege of representing. i try to remember that when i think about the people in north central ohio in the fourth district. >> anybody here from ohio? there we go. the room is pretty full. i wonder why. i think you are like. d. >> mercy and i work for president trump and the white house and we worked in the bush white house which is another story to the white house counsel is one of the most important jobs in that white house. whenever you are the white house counsel come if you work for a republican, everyone knows who you are in their stories constantly about the legal turmoil about every republican

president. i don't know what people realize that joe biden has white house counsel and his pre-much anonymous. i've never read stories about him and i'm reading that his office is coordinating a meeting with fani willis, her then boyfriend, meeting with the folks going after trump and president trump in new york. shouldn't we know who this is and why is he getting away with what i view as an american citizen? it looks like there's a lot of coordination from the white house on running cover on hunter biden and biden incorporated in the attack and the persecution president trump. >> nathan wade is supposedly in contact with the white house counsel's office on the white house and the justice department and january 6 committee. >> shouldn't they be running an independent investigation? >> you would think. >> i'm sure he's entitled to that information but we want to know how this has played out

when you think about they are going after their political opponent that started clear back in 15 and 16 when they started to finalize the campaign. based on a confidential human source, nothing seems to happen to christopher steele. now we have this human source that christopher wray filled out this form. he said we can't give you the 1023 form. he's been a 14 year informant and we paid him. they arrest the guy twice. maybe the guy did live. it's quite a contrast for christopher steele giving false information about president trump and he continues to get paid. this mr. smirnov can give false information and he gets arrested. >> i might be slow on the go but i don't think i will fall for the next russian collusion without proof. >> 2016, it was trump and muller told us that didn't happen.

in 2020, it was the laptop of russian information. it turned out to be baloney and here we go again come around three. maybe it's a case but is still seems strange to me. >> what will happen with hunter? >> he will testify next week in our deposition. we will have some questions for him. we continue to dig into our work. one thing i would say for sure is there are four facts that will never change. fact number one, hunter biden gets put on the board he gets paid $1 million per year. >> the is an energy expert, you have to give them that. he has a lot of energy. >> fact number two, he's not qualified. he said so himself in an interview with abc news. fact number three, hunter biden meeting with the ceos of burisma, they asked him can you weigh in and help relieve the pressure we are under from the prosecutor in ukraine? he calls d.c. and his father according to his business

partner. fact number four, after that phone call, joe biden go to ukraine and conditions the release of our tax dollars, your tax dollars on the firing of that prosecutor. those four facts, joe biden reg about the last thing. those four facts go against what the state department said they needed to happen. they sent a letter to the press care is saying you're a good job. they sent in inner agency policy committee that ukraine is one billion thousand joe biden changed it. could it have been the phone call from his son? joe biden gets his guy fired and applied pressure to the company that higher -- that hunter biden sits on the board of making $1 million per year. that's not how things should operate but those facts are fundamental. despite what the democrats say, those facts don't change. >> i want to go back to the previous question. the white house counsel is ed siskel. i'm not accusing him of doing anything wrong but i think there is a lot of wrongdoing

associated with the attempt to imprison joe biden's general election opponent. i think we ought to know who the man is. i think he should answer some questions. i want to know why the biden administration and the biden white house doesn't recuse itself from questions concerning their own campaign. it seems like a very basic thing. i think the people of cpac, let's start acting questions, do you agree? [applause] >> you have all these victims, you went back through russia gate, russian collusion, what went on during the 2016 campaign. mercy and i know this, we've had a lot of calls over the last several years from dear friends who are quietly bankrupted and quietly investigated, quietly having their lives destroyed, quietly having their professional lives destroyed. it's all because they want to

wear a red hat. that's the reason. i have an interesting question for you to consider. until all those people get their legal fees back answering basic questions, until these victims, thesej6 victims in the crowd on until they are made whole financially by our government wronged them and by the doj in particular, what the wrongdoing keep going on and on? >> there is some positives. we focused on the weaponization of these agencies that are supposed to serve the people that have been turned against us. >> is more than one or two? >> right, there has been some positives. we pointed out a year or so ago that homeland security has set up the disinformation governance board. they tell you what you are allowed to say and what you are not allowed to say. they were attempting to do this and we made such a big issue of

this and can serve as around the country helps to get rid of that board. sometimes bite drawing attention to the ridiculous things, you can make a difference. the irs announced they would no longer be making unannounced visits to american citizens homes. that's a good thing. the commissioner at the irs said we are doing this because we are concerned about the safety of our agents. baloney. [laughter] >> they are doing it because we caught them knocking on matt tai bi's door when he was testifying on the weaponization of government. he's testifying and democrats are asking him to reveal his sources. they are attacking his free press rights and he explaining why you can't do that and he didn't have to divulge his sources. it turned out they owed him money it wasn't the other way around. sometimes, just by highlighting these things, you can have an impact. we just have to keep it up.

we will also be focused on legislation particular where the government is involved in censoring american speech. you have a cause of action. we have legislation that mr. bishop and ms. hagan will introduce in the district committee we think will help address the situation. that is the most important thing. all this other crazy stuff, we can recover from it all but if they take away our first amendment rights -- we have five rights of the first amendment, your right to practice your faith, right to assemble, right to petition your government, free press, free-speech speech, all critical important. but the most important is your right to talk. if you can't speak, you can't practice your faith or share your faith or petition your government and you don't have a free press. that is what they are going after so we are really focused on that more than anything else. [applause] >> god bless you for that. back when i had a little more brown hair. i worked on the hill.

president clinton and hillary, she corruptly fired the travel office because you didn't like what they were doing. the republican majority came back and made those people whole , they gave him a vector pensions and help them with their legal fees. what cpac would like to be his partner with good guys like you to make sure that there is not worth spending the doj has a slush over there and they don't always go to good causes. we should have more funds at the og -- it doj. if united states uses every penny of your savings and you have to hire these expensive lawyers and you get down to the end, i think you deserve to be made whole. >> well said. [applause] >> finally, let's talk about the first amendment freedoms. freedom of the press is not the first one, sorry guys in the back. they always things the first one

but it is important. what is going on? >> we are trying to dig into this. what happened here looks really wrong in my judgment. they have grabbed everything. this is her sources, or information. it does not happen when you are talking about -- cbs fired catherine heritage who has done an amazing job she's an amazing journalist and a fair journalist. [applause] >> they grabbed her stuff. they literally grabbed her stuff. this further encroachment by folks on the left which no unfortunately controls the democratic party is an encroachment on first amendment rights. think back to covid. they told americans, governors and mayors told americans you can't go to church sunday in america? think about that. >> the government closed down the church? >> it's crazy. i gave his feet to the new mexico republican party in

amarillo, texas because their liberal democrat governor wouldn't let them assemble in their own state so they had to go to texas to get the freedom to assemble. on and on it goes. >> i think a lot of them ended up staying because it was a better place. >> may be. it's scary what's happening to catherine. you know what great reporting she done over the years. what cbs has done doesn't make sense and is something we will dig into. >> i think the biggest problem we have despite all the policy and constitutional crises and everything else, the biggest problem we have is our own hearts. a lot of people are giving up. they say we've lost so much ground and we lost the constitution and they cheat in elections, it's too late. we believe at cpac, one of our biggest job is to wake up those people and make them understand that november is the fight for the future of america. what is your inspirational message to those folks who might have given up? >> the left controls big media

and big tech and big corporations and big sports and academia in hollywood and the bureaucracy. it now controls united states senate and the white house but the left doesn't control we the people. [applause] >> that is always what this country is about. that's why you guys are here. we remember that and remember there is a guy at the top of the ticket >> you mean a really big guy? >> i mean president trump will be at the top of the ticket who cares about the first amendment and cares about this great country and is as positive as you can be in spite of everything that's happened to him. i've gotten a chance to know this guy and he is such an amazing guy who loves his country, loves regular people like folks in his room and is willing to go fight for us because he cares about the greatest nation ever. >> are we going to win? >> we are. >> that's a great way to end it. thank you, jim jordan. >> thank you all, god bless.

[applause] ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, who is the white house counsel? welcome from florida, congresswoman kat commack and katie pavlich. ♪ >> all right. we've got a busy friday a busy friday afternoon on her hands.

thank you for joining us here at cpac. i'm with the wonderful congresswoman kat ca mmack. rep. commack: absolutely. this is great. katie: one year ago we were here in the same place on the same stage and you were getting started with your work on the subcommittee for the weaponization of the federal government in the house. i wanted to make sure we gave the audience an update on the work you have been doing over the past year, because the weaponization of the federal government is an assault on constitutional rights. maybe give an overview of what you are doing. rep. commack: how many people here feel the government has gotten way too big? [applause] ok. how many people feel the government has abused its powers against everyday american citizens? [applause] yeah. there is pretty much general

consensus there's a problem happening in the country where these unelected, nameless, faceless bureaucrats think they all of a sudden have the power to take on everyday american citizens and strip them of their constitutional rights. for the last year under the leadership of chairman jim jordan -- wasn't he great? we have been tackling all the various aspects of weaponization of the federal government. everything from the ukrainian intelligence service, which is directing the fbi to take down your social media posts, or a bank giving up your financial information to the fbi to search for key terms that would indicate you are a radical individual. for example, if you shop at bass pro or cabela's. that make me a radical. that is the type of work we have been undertaking.

one of the areas that has really emerged is this is between ai and censorship. this is where we dig into the industrial censorship complex. that is one way to really encapsulate the work we have done, really defining and digging into this new era of the industrial complex were big government and big tech work hand in glove to take away your constitutional rights. the democrats, they don't think this is happening. every person in this room just said they think government is too big and there's a problem and its weaponized. the democrats say it is not a problem. katie: is it that the democrats don't think it's happening or they are fine with it and they see it as a tool to use for their political purposes to continue their control? democrats in the last government, we have seen through the biden administration and the obama administration before that that they are perfectly fine

using the federal government against their political opponents. it is not that they don't know about it or they deny so they can use it to their advantage? rep. cammack: we know the democratic agenda, the liberal progressive agenda is nothing more than dependency and control. they want to grow the size of government so that we become dependent on all their big government programs so they can then maintain control. when it comes to the weaponization committee, without fail, those on the left, all they want to talk about is how it is a sham, there is no weaponization of government. oh, and donald trump is bad. they are so obsessed with donald trump that they will do anything possible to make sure he's not the nominee or the 47th president of the united states. their obsession is real. it is unbelievable. they are so blind with hate that it is all they can focus on. they can't see that right in front of you, regardless if

you're republican or democrat, this is a real problem where everyday rights are being stripped away. they are doing nothing in stopping it or trying to tackle it. katie: we have a constitution for a reason. people still have rights. as we move into a completely digital society, whether it is online with the information we consume or which bank you use, i shop at bass pro and cabela's. through the coverage of your committee and the work you guys do in the reporting they are flagging things like bibles as extremist sales, a violation of the first amendment. and the search and seizure without a warrant, which is not just limited to bass pro and cabela's. the fbi is giving hundreds of thousands of searches for years now. how do americans fight back against this type of invasion and violation of their rights when it is difficult to see it happening and you have these

federal government agencies like the treasury department and computers you are not seeing action on until much later, years later? how are you working to combat this from happening in the first place? it seems like guilty until proven innocent kind of thing. they do it and you find out later and there's no recourse. rep. cammack: it does feel like you are in a twilight zone. you are guilty until proven innocent. one of the things we're doing and i think chairman jordan alluded to this is the legislative fixes. ensuring your first amendment right is there and protected and you have the right to free speech. one of the very troubling things is you can walk up to an average member of congress and unlikely they could outline the five tenets of the first amendment. that is very scary. these are the people who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution. one thing we have done is the legislative element. one piece of legislation we are

working on in our office is the fencing bill. we know the challenges in the government funding battle. no sooner than a week from now we will probably be looking down the barrel of a government shutdown over a spending battle. until we can get an attitude adjustment -- a very much-needed attitude adjustment in washington we have a more clever way of figuring out how we can hold these unelected swamp creatures accountable. that is by fencing their money. if we can't cut their money we will fence it. what would that do? you start in different apartments and hold their money hostage. two can play this game and i'm so sick and tired of sitting on the sidelines and watching these people run roughshod over our rights with our money. they treated like their money. it is our money. it is crazy. katie: i'm glad you brought up the fencing and the strategy behind holding bureaucrats accountable. that is exactly it.

bureaucrats are faceless, nameless. there is no accountability. they are mostly leftists working in the federal government who think they can violate the rights of americans for whatever cause they are pushing. we have seen the issue of big tech partnering with big government, whether it is the white house, the federal government, other areas, state governments. now we are moving into a new phase. i was in san francisco. rep. cammack: i'm sorry. katie: i was only driving through. rep. cammack: did you download the poop app? katie: it was risky. all the bills were about ai. the weaponization committee came out with this alarming almost 100 page report about how the national institute of science foundation, a federal government funded program, is using taxpayer money to work with academia to censor information online "at scale."

talk about this new partnership that has been unveiled. you have been appointed to a new commission to work on ai, a bipartisan commission. talk about the dangers of ai and the way the government is already working through grants, through money to use it to "censor at scale." rep. cammack: it is terrifying what we are seeing. to your point about this new commission formed, we announced the new congressional ai task force. i don't know if you guys have seen in the news in the last week, microsoft rolled out their new ai platform. u.s. get a question, something as simple as paint me a picture of a 16th-century king from england. it gives you a guy in dreads. it's ridiculous. the front page of the new york post had a great front cover that talked about how the pope was a woman. it is riddled with dei bs.

why it that way is because of the language model. what we are doing on the task force is ensuring the line was model comes from a liberty perspective. if you start with garbage in you will get garbage out. there is tremendous potential when it comes to ai. what does an average american do, what do organizations do, what do organizations or municipalities, cities, counties do if there is massive election interference at scale because of ai? there is very little recourse. there has to be some guiding framework put in place. we don't want to overreact like the government typically does and drive the innovation out. i do see a tremendous opportunity for us to do incredible things using ai. we have to be cognizant of the dangers around it. if we don't get this right we could be staring down the barrel

of mass censorship at scale like we saw at stanford, at m.i.t., at the university of michigan. a quick example. the system that was awarded for m.i.t. with their ai initiative, it said and their findings that they were utilizing ai to reprogram veterans, rural americans, and people who had a conservative mindset, because we could not handle truth. they were literally using ai to try to reprogram conversations and mindsets and facts. that is dangerous. that's incredibly dangerous. we have a lot of work to do. we are right at the beginning of where ai will be implement it in every aspect of our lives. we have to make sure we don't stifle innovation. we have to make sure we are protecting our national security and protecting people's constitutional rights. katie: it has to of all. ai is technology that is evolving.

as we have seen through covid and the 2020 election and with hunter's laptop and twitter, facebook censoring well conservative news was accurately reporting over the virus came from. george washington was put into this ai system and microsoft. the real george washington did not come out of that. essentially they erased all white males from the entire system. outside of government, would you encourage private companies to go into this ai space and a higher liberty minded voices? like you said, if you're only hiring in san francisco for this ai, it is garbage in, garbage out, you will not have a different opinion when it comes to the results. rep. cammack: i would encourage people who are in the startup space who tend to shy away from it because you have these massive competitors in google and apple, microsoft, these people playing in this space.

we start talking about a language model that has a philosophical base in freedom and liberty and diversity of thought rather than the traditional ddi check the box mentality -- dei check the box mentality. it's like trying to explain -- some of my history nerds got that. makes me feel better. it is crazy we are not encouraging these startups. there are so many talented voices that need to be in the space. they are getting shut out. you can see the big players getting involved with government because they want to regulate where they can keep competition away. they want to regulate where they can control it and that is what we have to push back against. katie: we have a minute and a half left. going back to the constitutional rights aspect because it is so important and you keep finding new things all the time on what the government is doing to

backdoor these ways they can go around the first amendment, the second amendment, all the amendments. you are in the house. there is a slim margin. the senate is controlled by chuck schumer. how do you get the legislation you were discussing into a form that can be passed where it can hold bureaucrats accountable for what they're doing? rep. cammack: it comes down to what can everyday americans do. getting involved. you guys are here so you are involved. getting more people involved and educated about this and then communicating with your members of congress is critical. the power of the people is unrealized. untapped. there is nothing a career politician fears more than a group of people who are motivated, educated, and activated. they are absolute cowards if you roll into their office and their phone lines are ringing off the hook with something don't vote for this bill or cosponsor this bill. that is the power of the people that has really not been

activated in ways we have seen yet. and getting that across the finish line they are creative strategic things we can do through the appropriations process. i'm all for single issue bills. i with a for us to get back to that point. we are not pulling grants from -- the oversight element, 100% single issue bills we have members of congress on record saying i don't want more oversight. i do want people to know were all their money is going. put these people on the record and expose them for the cowards they are. we need to reassert our authority as the people and in congress. katie: on that note, congresswoman, thank you for your time. [applause] ♪ [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, feature to visit the cpac store located on the lower level in cpac

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