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members of congress have not read. unfortunately, there were a few stumbling blocks as we sought to change the process. for example, the administration's budget request was more than a month late. it then took months for the president to come to the table on the debt ceiling negotiations. but even before the debt sealing agreement spending framework was in place, the appropriations committee got to work. in fact, this year we held more than 70 hearings. we reviewed roughly 80,000 requests for members. we listened and then we acted. we began markups in may five months ago and then made adjustments to reflect changes in the law that set spending caps for the year. the appropriations bill moved through the subcommittee, committee, and then the floor.
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even though a few bills have more steps to take in the process, i'm proud of the work we've done. as of today, we've sent four appropriation bills to the senate totaling roughly 70% of funding needed for this year. the senate has not sent us any bills yet. the house has now laid down a marker on what i believe are our highest priorities. it should be crystal clear to the american people that house republicans support what is in our national security. most importantly, we are focused on our rooms and veterans as well as defending our homeland and interests abroad. at the same time the bill we have drafted demonstrates we must stop government overreach and the out of control spending of the last few years.
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these are the most conservative appropriation bills in history and simply need more time to get our important work done. while a continuing resolution is not ideal, it prevents a harmful government shutdown and gives us more time to pass the appropriations bills on the floor of the house and allows us to start negotiations, final full year bills with the senate. yesterday i voted for a different version after short term funding bill that had keyboarder issues and i strongly will support these efforts and continue to fight for them as this process moves along. but today, the most important priority is keeping government open while we work on full year appropriation bills that reflect conservative priorities. passing this bill is the best way for us to move the process forward. i urge my colleagues to support
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this bill and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time is reserved. the gentlelady from connecticut is recognized. ms. delauro: mr. speaker, we have had 15 minutes to review a 71-page document, a document that was filed before midnight last night. there hasn't there hasn't been any time for staff to review a 71-page document on such an important issue that we are facing. it demonstrates a lack of responsibility, a lack of a willingness to have a bipartisan
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agreement on the continuing resolution. i rise in strong opposition to the bill. the day before the government shuts down and the majority is still throwing anything that they can at the wall to see if anything sticks, house republicans have already proven that they cannot and they will not pass a continuing resolution on their own. even one with outlandish spending cuts that could never pass the senate or be signed into law. a bipartisan, a bicameral solution is the only way forward. i worked on these efforts. last december. and house republicans at that time decided not to participate. but what the senate republican,
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senator shelby and senator leahy, we hammered out a budget for 2023. the speaker knows the bipartisan senate continuing resolution would easily garner a majority in this house of representatives. yet he refuses to let it go to the floor of the house. what is he afraid of? so what are we trying instead? well, yesterday republicans voted to defund our support for our allies in the middle east. including a billion-dollar cut to israel, a further cut to jordan. that did not work. so today the target is ukraine. and despite the fact that it is the majority's will demonstrated several times this week to provide support for ukraine's self-defense, the biggs
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amendment that would strike all ukraine security assistance initiative funds from the defense bill failed 104-330. the gaetz amendment that would have prohibited all funding for ukraine in the defense bill failed 93-339. a greene amendment to prohibit assistance to ukraine in the state and foreign operations bill failed 90-342. and this body voted to separately fund ukraine after it was stripped from the defense bill in the darkness of night. and that was 311-117. mr. speaker, the appeasement strategy of the far right does not have majority support in this body. standing with our allies does have support here, which is
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tried and true american patriotism, american justice, maybe views and their values for freedom -- america's views and their values for freedom and their fight for democracy. that's who we are and that's what we are about and those who would do otherwise, shameful, shameful in bringing down the united states of america and its support for those people who seek freedom in our world today. the department of defense officials recently sent letters to the four corners of the congress, undersecretary mccord writes, and i quote, without additional funding now we would have to delay or curtail assistance to meet ukraine's urgent requirements, including for air defense and ammunition that are critical and urgent now as russia prepares to conduct a
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winter offensive and continues its bombardment of ukrainian cities, end quote. but then he continues, delays to additional funding would also be perceived by ukraine as a sign of wavering u.s. support and likely a betrayal of our previous commitments. allies and partners are also unlikely to sustain their increased level of support without clear continuing u.s. leadership. as you know, secretary austin successfully engages over 50 nations every month to press for sustained support. it is crucial that the united states continues to lead this global coalition, lead. the united states should lead. and we need the resources to
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underwrite our leadership role, end quote. house republicans have shown that they are unwilling and they are unable to govern. some have shown they are willing and they are able to abandon our allies. it is time for this body, for my republican colleagues to abandon the gaetz strategy or the greene strategy and try as we have in the past for a bipartisan strategy that we all know will ultimately conclude the shutdown and fully fund the united states government. a shutdown will hurt families and farmers, children and service members at a time when families are living paycheck to paycheck. let us keep the u.s. government
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open, let us proceed with a bipartisan, bicameral agreement and, as has been proposed by the united states senate, and let us continue to support ukraine's fight for freedom. mr. speaker, let's get to work. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time is reserved. the gentlelady from texas. ms. granger: i yield to the gentleman from new york, mr. lawler, for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for two minutes. mr. lawler: thank you. would the gentlelady from connecticut yield for a question? ms. delauro: yes. be happy to. mr. lawler: thank you. do you support the senate version of a c.r.? ms. delauro: yes, i do. strongly sport senate version. mr. lawler: ok. so, the difference between the senate version and this version is that this version does not include ukraine funding. so are you telling me that you
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would shut down the government if there's not ukraine funding? ms. delauro: i just say to you that -- maybe you have a chance -- have had the chance to read 71 pages. this bill doesn't extend the authority to help ukrainian refugees -- mr. lawler: reclaiming my time. ms. delauro: of course you're reclaiming your time. mr. lawler: reclaiming my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york has the floor. mr. lawler: thank you. today on the last day before a potential government shutdown, speaker mccarthy will be putting a 45-day clean c.r. with disaster relief on the floor. i will vote in support of this legislation so that we can keep the united states government funded and open while we finish our appropriations bills. anyone, anyone, democrats or republicans, who vote against a clean c.r. with disaster relief is voting to shut the government down. when it is ukraine funding, securing the border or reducing spending, all of which i support, it will have to be
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negotiated during the appropriations process. all of us have a responsibility to lead and to govern. in a guided government -- divided government, none of us will get everything we want. to shut the government down would be disastrous for the american people, our military and our economy. the time has come for everyone to put the american people above all interests and continue to do our work as responsible, reasonable and serious legislators. for anyone to vote no on this bill, they are voting to shut the government down and if you're saying that you support the senate c.r. but you don't support this one, the only difference is ukraine. and if you're telling the american people with a straight face that you will shut the american government down over ukraine, shame on you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. members are advised to direct their comments to the chair. the gentlelady from connecticut. ms. delauro: i find it very
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strange indeed that there is no mention of several things, at least preliminarily, which we have looked at in this bill. there are many changes between this bill, as the gentleman asked me, and the senate bill. there are many changes. the gentleman from new york should understand that there are many changes between this bill and the senate bill. here is one that i believe the majority will not mention. they amend the senate bill to give themselves a pay raise. a pay raise. it's there. yeah. you can look at me, you can smile, but what you did was you amended the senate bill to give yourselves a pay raise.
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while you have threatened day in and day out service members, you have threatened workers across this country and you've said to them, we don't really care about you and whether or not you can support your family. we don't care about that. no. we mainly care about ourselves and our pay raise. and you know, it is pretty true to form with what the american people thinks about members. but they should know which members are willing to give them up in their own self-interest for a pay raise. it is despicable. you are about to shut the government down, but hours before you do so you give yourself a pay raise. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady will suspend.
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the gentlelady will suspend. ms. delauro: it's pathetic. yes. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will remind the members in this chamber, as a matter of decorum, direct your comments to the chair. ms. delauro: will do. the speaker pro tempore: and heed the gavel. the gentlelady may resume. the gentlelady reserves. ms. delauro: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from texas. ms. granger: i yield to the gentleman from new york, mr. molinaro, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. mr. moolenaar: with hours to go before the potential shutdown of this federal government, we are posed with a single question. vote yes to continue to provide services and support to our military, to our defense, to our communities, to law enforcement, or vote no and shut the government down. that's the question. and being told, by the way, for
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years that during the pandemic with the government shut down that somehow people should just sort of fend for themselves, being told for years how great that was, we have an opportunity in this very moment to confront what is a real crisis for real peep. keep the government -- people. keep the government functioning. continue to focus on appropriations. drive down federal spending. but meet the needs and the expectations of the american people today. vote yes to keep the government open. vote no to shut the government down. i, on behalf of my constituents, will be voting yes to keep this government functioning. and with that, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from connecticut. ms. delauro: if i might, i'd like to read a letter that was sent by the undersecretary of defense, michael mccord. and the letter was sent to the speaker of the house, as well as to the senate majority and
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minority leaders. and it is just -- addressed to leader jeffries. i write to express the department of defense's deep concern with the absence of security assistance funding for ukraine in the continuing resolution. being considered in the house. or any similar continuing resolution that might be proposed. the department of defense is anxious to avoid a lapse in appropriations, but it is important that a c.r. protect our security interests and uphold our commitments and our values. as you know, the department has been providing vital security assistance to ukraine since russia's unprovoked invasion in february, 2022. thanks to the bipartisan support of the congress, it is just as vital today that we continue that support. today d.o.d. has exhausted nearly all available security assistance funding for ukraine. we are already out of funding for the ukraine security assistance initiative, one of the two security assistance tools we have.
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the other funding tool we need are those funds provided to replenish our military's inventories for the weapons and supplies we provided to support ukraine in their fight via drawdown. we have only $1.6 billion remaining of the $25.9 billion that the congress has provided. we have already been forced to slow down the replenishment of our own forces to hedge against an uncertain funding future, our own forces.. failure to replenish your military forces could harm our military readiness. without additional funding now we'd have to delay or curtail assistance to meet ukraine's urgent requirements including for air defense and ammunition that is critical and urgent. now as russia prepares to conduct a winter offensive and continuities bombardment of ukrainian cities. for example, a lack of usai funding now will delay contract funding actions that could
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negatively impact the department's ability to purchase essential additional 150 millimeter artillery and critical munitions that are successful for ukraine's armed forces. this is critical to sustaining ukraine's armed forces including for their ongoing counteroffensive. an inability to assure timely procurement and deliveries could undermine essential ukrainian operations to retake additional territory or defend against potential future russian offenses. it would also affect our ability to support ukraine's land forces including obstacle breaching equipment, sustainment of previously provided small unmanned aerial systems, systems to detect, analyze, and locate adversary signals and democrat mission equipment. it would affect equipment and maintenance we previously
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provided, affordability equipment, spare parts and other or other activities to sustain ukraine at a full capacity. a cutoff would send a mixed signal to our industrial base which we've asked to step up munitions production across the country resulting in increased capacity and higher employment. we cannot afford to throw that progress away. in fact we are counting on it to implement our national defense strategy and important to note from workers supporting stinger, a manufacturing actor in arizona that produces patriot interceptors and g.l.r.s. in arkansas, this funding is strengthening the american economy and creating hundreds of new american jobs. some have suggested the department could still execute the mission and support ukraine's needs if it were given permission to transfer funds from inside a short-term c.r. from our own needs to fund more
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security assistance. i want to be clear, the department does not support that approach that would create unacceptable risk to us. under a c.r., the department will be operating at a level approximate $25 billion below our budget request for fiscal year 2024 which is consistent with the fiscal responsibility act of funding levels. the bottom line is we cannot sustain adequate levels of ukraine assistance with transfer authority only. delays to additional funding would also be perceived by ukraine as a sign of waiverring u.s. support and likely as a betrayal of our previous commitments, allies, and partners are also unlikely to sustain their increased level of support without clear continuing u.s. leadership. as you know, secretary austin successfully engages over 50 nations every month to press for sustained support.
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it is crucial that the united states continues to lead this global coalition and we need the resources to underwrite our leadership role. the department appreciates your leadership on this vital matter, and i sent an identical letter to the speaker of the house as well as senate majority and minority leaders, michael mccourt, the undersecretary for defense. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: gentlel ady reserves her time. the gentlelady from texas. ms. granger: i yield to the gentleman from new york, mr. de espisito. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. >> while i appreciate the eloquent remarks from my colleague from connecticut, i am
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from new york and today we ask ourselves a very basic question, are we voting and supporting to keep the united states of america open to make sure our government moves forward, or are we drawing a line in the sand putting ukraine over the greatest country in the world, the united states of america? my colleague from connecticut also mentioned there was only 15 minutes given to her conference. i find it startling that you need more than just seconds to make a vote in support of keeping this government and supporting the united states of america. this is not today a democrat issue. it is not a republican issue.
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this is an american issue. and today we should all stand on this floor and support this continuing resolution in keeping this government open. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from connecticut. [ms. delauro: i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from texas. ms. granger: i yield two minutes to the gentleman from georgia, mr. scott. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. scott: before i speak to the issue of ukraine, i thought i'd read the 27th amendment to the constitution. no law varying the compensation for the services of the senators and representatives shall take effect until an election of representatives shall have intervened. now, if you're watching this, i'm sorry you don't have something better to do on a saturday, but you need to know who is telling you the truth and who is not telling you the truth. recently you heard my colleague from connecticut tell you that the republican bill has a pay raise for members of congress.
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it's simply not true. and if it did, it would be unconstitutional. and if the senate bill changes the compensation for members of congress, then it, too, is unconstitutional. again, the 27th amendment, word for word, no law varying the compensation for the services of the senators and representatives shall take effect until an elected representative shall have intervened. they're grasping at straws and intended to shut down the government from the start. with regard to ukraine funding. i am on the armed services committee and the intelligence committee and i support the mission on ukraine but it's not a u.s. led mission. it's a mission the united states is participating in and this continuing resolution will not do anything to hinder what the united states is doing with regard to ukraine. we need to vote for this continuing resolution. we need to keep the united states government open. we need to keep the d.o.d. funded and our soldiers funded and disregard totally what
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you're hearing from the other side. they are gasping at straws, making excuses and telling flat-out lies about member compensation as an excuse to vote against this piece of legislation. let's keep the government open. vote for this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from connecticut. ms. delauro: i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: she continues to reserve. the gentlelady from texas. the gentleman from has 10 minutes remaining. ms. granger: i yield to the gentleman from florida, mr. diaz-balart, two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized for two minutes. mr. diaz-balart: thank you, mr. chairman. we deal with a lot of complicated issues in this house. this is not one of them. let's be very clear. 12 hours from now the federal government shuts down if we don't act. this bill will fund the federal government for 45 days with a clean continuing resolution with just the addition of disaster funding. that's all this is.
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let's not get too complicated. we are out of time. we either vote yes to keep the federal government open or we will shut the government down. again, this is not very complicated. we either vote to keep the government open by voting yes or vote no and take responsibility for shutting down the federal government. this cannot be simpler. this could not be easier. the american people are wise and they get it. it's hard to believe that some members of congress would be confused on something so easy. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman from connecticut. ms. delauro: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady reserves her time. the gentlelady from texas.
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ms. granger: i yield to mrs. miller meeks for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from iowa is recognized. mrs. miller meeks: i rise to respond to keeping the government open 45 days. shutting down the government should be a last resort. my priority has always been to protect and represent my constituents to the best of my ability and i cannot justify shutting down our entire government over obscure policy decisions. government shutdowns have real consequences on american lives. you know, my dad was an enlisted master sergeant in the air force. my mom had a g.e.d. they both worked. my dad obvious did extra jobs on the weekend. i grew up watching my dad at the kitchen table calculate how long it would take to mail a bill so the bill would get there after his one single paycheck a month came in. every single month i watched that. he knew exactly how many days it
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took. a lapse in pay for these individuals means going without food. these are real people. they would be affected by the political games both sides are playing. to our 10,000 hard-working iowans in our district who work for the federal government and will be out of work from law enforcement officers to cafeteria workers and to the iowa national guard protecting our southern border, i want to assure you i will remain steadfastly committed to keeping the government open because at the end of the day, i know your bills are still due. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: gentlel ady yields back her time. the gentlelady from connecticut. ms. delauro: i continue to reserve. ms. granger: mr. chair, i yield two minutes to the gentleman from nevada. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from nevada is
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recognized for two minutes. >> thank you, mr. speaker. as the chairman of the legislative graunch subcommittee and appropriations which has very specific jurisdiction over member pay, i just want to say plainly and unambiguously, in the 70 pages in this thing directly or indirectly, there is nothing, there is nothing that will lead to a member pay raise. mr. amodei: that will be next week where it is appropriately considered on the floor in terms of cost of living or other things on the floor. ms. delauro: will the gentleman yield? mr. amodei: yes, i will. ms. delauro: i would make reference to page 7 of the 71-page document, and in the senate bill they include a line that says -- the senate bill includes the blocking or the prohibition on a member pay raise. that has been dropped from the bill that has just been proposed.
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ms. amodei: reclaiming my time, with all due respect, the definition of a c.r. is you go forward. there is nothing to block in going forward with last year's -- that language still applies. thank you, good morning, and god bless america. the speaker pro tempore: i think the gentleman yielded back his time. the gentlelady from connecticut. ms. delauro: i'm proud to yield three minutes to the democratic whip, congressman clark. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for two minutes. ms. clarke: we just received a 71-page bill that is about keeping open our federal government, something democrats have been pushing for months. we are asking for 90 minutes to be able to read this bill and come to the floor with an informed vote. that has been denied.

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