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here, here or anywhere you should have access to fast and reliable internet. >> mediacom supports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. >> title 42 is a policy put in place at the u.s. southern border to help prevent the spread of covid-19 during the pandemic. the policy is set to expire may 11. senators lindsey graham, and ted cruz call on the biden administration to expand the policy. title 30 -- title 42 gives border agents the ability to turn away asylum-seekers. the senator's news conference is about 30 minute.
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-- 30 minutes. >> thank you. did morning, everyone senator cruise will be along in a little bit. this is a nightmare date for the american people and particularly people in mexico and texas. what is going to happen is the biden administration is going to repeal the use of title 42 authority to expel people. this is not deportation. this is expelling. it is the ability to tell people that you have to go back home because of title 42 concerns, that goes away on may 11. where are we?
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in the past 90 days there have been 600 36,000 -- 6300 and day, where are we headed, if you repeal title 42 there will be a surgeon -- surge, as dhs says, in the next 90 days it will be between 900,000 to 1.1 million. that is what is coming. if you repeal title 42 on may 11. you are basically doubling the problem. it is just not republicans concerned about this. these are news outlets reporting what is to come after may 11. every news organization in the country sees this this same,
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that there will be a dramatic increase in illegal crossings because people are sitting in mexico waiting until may 11. they are amassing by thousands, knowing that when may 11 comes it will be much easier to get into the country. these are democratic mirrors, -- mayors who are overwhelmed. these are mayors of washington, chicago and new york, egging the biden administration to change course and change policy. this impacts the entire country not just border state. -- border states. but if you are in texas, you are on the tip of the spear. el paso and -- have declared
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states of emergency because they know what is coming may 11. these cities are being overrun and having more capacity than they can handle. crime is up, and it is out of control. i will turn it over to john here and a second, and he can talk about texas. with the biden administration, what the hell has to happen for you to change policy. at what point are you going to take this seriously? americans are under siege here, you are sitting all everyone is burning in america. what we hope to do, is to beg and plead with this administration. i've asked it -- i've asked democrats to join the effort to not repeal title 42 may 11. it's been used 2.2 million times to expel people who came here illegally. that authority comes -- goes away three. it's not like it doesn't matter,
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it's been used by the administration probably more than any tool in the toolbox. and they are taking out of the toolbox one of the most effective tools that they have to deter illegal immigration and coming next week all hell will break loose across the border and eventually will flow into the interior of the united states. about stopping illegal immigration, don and i have sat down with democrats for over one decade try to solve this problem. this is a self-inflicted wound by the biden administration. they have the power to continue this policy. they have the power by executive action to keep people out of the country when they want to claim asylum. they repealed the trump policies that lead to the lowest illegal crossings in 2020 in recent history. it was a choice that they made. it has nothing to do with congress acting or not acting. this is a conscious decision by the biden administration to take
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a tool out of the toolbox that has been very effective and it's going to lead to a holy hell. it's going to lead to a crushing of border cities that are already under siege, and democratic mirrors are asking the biden administration to change course -- democratic mayors to change course -- democratic mayors are asking bided to change course. >> i appreciate my friend senator graham for raising this press conference, he is exactly right. what is currently a flood of humanity coming across the border is that are already under siege and democratic mayors are begging the biden administration to change course. we are begging them to change course and i am hoping our message will get through, but time will tell. senator cornyn knows this better
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than most. sen. cornyn: i appreciate my friend, senator graham, for arranging this press conference. he is exactly right. what is currently a flood of humanity coming across the border is getting ready to become a tsunami, and because a tool the biden administration has used, title 42, the pandemic, public health law will expire. unless they put something else in its place to plug that hole, you will see more people encouraged by the prospect of being able to successfully make it across the border into the interior of the u.s. it is astonishing to me how many people in the biden administration will lie about the severity of this problem who will try to down claimant -- downplay it. if the border is secure, why is
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president biden sending 1500 active duty military to the border? they can't enforce immigration law. all they can do is change diapers and push paper. according to the law, they can only perform administrative functions, but this disaster has so many different effects. just think for a minute about the 1.2 one million got aways, people did not turn them in and claim assignment. if you claim asylum, you will be allowed to go to the interior of the country but perhaps never to be heard from again. that is why people keep coming and say the word state have been coached to say that they need to cite to make their way into the interior of the country. some places like new york, it is a 10-year wait before you can begin immigration proceedings in front of an immigration judge. then there is the drugs, 108,000 american citizens died of drug overdoses last year, 71,000 of
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those were -- i was at carrollton/farmers branch last week listening to parents who said my child thought they were taking something like a percocet or xanax only to find out it was contaminated with fentanyl, basically the tip of a pencil lead that fentanyl will take your life. that is why the drug enforcement administration and others are trying to socialize the idea that one pill can kill. and the last thing i will mention, the unaccompanied children. because of the weight unaccompanied children are treated under our system can effectively place with sponsors in the interior of the united states, we know for a fact that health and human services in charge of that has lost touch with tens of thousands of minor children.
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we are supposed to be protecting their safety. we are supposed to be looking after them. the new york times has run a couple of investigative stories pointing out that many of these children are being put into forced labor in violation of our child labor laws. who knows how many of the children that the biden administration has laws are in abusive family situations, been sexually assaulted, recruited into gangs? all of this comes down to the biden border crisis in the administration's conscious decision not to enforce current laws and refusing to work with reasonable people to come up with solutions. about a year, maybe two years ago now, senator sinema and tony gonzales and henry cuellar introduced the bipartisan order solutions back, another bill --
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we thought if this got bad enough, the biden administration would look for a lifeline to grab a hold of, and we wanted to provide them with a bipartisan, bicameral bill to begin that discussion, but they refused even that, so i appreciate senator graham taking the lead on this issue. this is a bad situation that is about to get much, much worse, and the answer is not 1500 active duty service members. they didn't join the military to go to the border to push paper and change diapers, but under the law that is all they can do is perform administrative functions. they can't even actually enforce the immigration law, that this is a symbolic move that has zero meaning when it comes to changing the status quo. and we are here to cite, if you think things -- say, if you think things are bad now, they are going to get worse come may
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11. what is now a flood will turn into a tsunami. sen. graham: will go ahead and take questions. yeah go ahead. >> [indiscernible voices] the other times um -- uh, this morning, incoming chicago mayor brendan johnson said there are governors not willing to collaborate when it comes to the migrant issue, cities like chicago. what is your reaction? sen. cornyn: well, i would ask the question, what are the governors of border states like texas supposed to do, and these border communities that are being overwhelmed? uh, i think governor abbott and governor desantis who have bused migrants have basically facilitated their travel to
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cities like new york and washington, in chicago, they have done so in desperation, trying to gain the president's attention, thinking well, he won't listen to republicans. maybe he will listen to democrats and listen to mayors of these large cities? senator graham and i were having the conversation, we are just completely baffled about what it will take to get the biden administration's attention. if it is not the death of 108,000 americans due to drug overdoses, forced labor for unaccompanied children placed in the interior, if it is not women, children, girls getting sexually assaulted traveling from their home country to the u.s. and the tender care that the cartel's and transnational criminal organizations, what would it take to get joe biden's attention? we are just completely
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bamboozled by their lack of attention to this. and maybe that will be something that will get somebody's attention someday. they run out of room and may be joe biden will pick up the phone and call president biden. >> can i ask specifically what you're asking the president to do? may 11 is it is said to end. so are you asking the administration to put a new executive order in place that gives them the same authority title 42 has? sen. graham: yes. i'm asking them to find an acceptable substitute for title 42. this is like being hit by a slow moving truck in kansas. this has been going on for like, a year. here we are next week and they have no adequate substitute, so you are going to take off the table a tool that allows expelling 2.3 one million illegal immigrants under title
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42, you don't have an adequate substitute. that is the point. when -- the covid emergency comes to an end like trump, there are things you can do. they have built policies to work because the left has forced them to make political decisions on the border that is putting our country at risk. the quality of life in the border communities in this country is being destroyed, and interior governors complained about reducing the quality of life in their states, what is texas, these other states, what are they going to do? so yeah, our plea is do something to deter illegal immigration. just repealing title 42 without an adequate substitute makes the problem worse. sen. cornyn: one of the things -- one of the things that president biden could do is use a law that was signed by president clinton to provide for
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expedited removal. of course, that doesn't fix the broken asylum system, which is another big component of this, but would provide that adequate substitute that senator graham has mentioned, but i think none of us have confidence in the biden administration's commitment to enforce the immigration laws and prevent this disaster from getting any worse. sen. cruz: joe biden and connelly harris have presided over the worst disaster at our southern border in our nations history. this was not an accident. it was deliberate. it was the consequence of deliberate political decisions that have created this chaos. this crisis was caused by three political decisions made in the first week of the presidency. number one joe biden immediate we hope construction of the border wall. number two, biden reinstated the disastrous policy of catch and
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release. number three, biden pulled out of the incredibly successful remain in mexico agreement. the consequence of those political decisions was catastrophic. we went from the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years, which is what joe biden inherited and what we had under donald trump and 2020, success, and bided and harris came in and turned success into failure, not just failure, abysmal failure. they didn't just go back to obama-but illegal immigration but they produce the worst illegal immigration our nation has seen, over 6 million people have crossed illegally under joe biden. last year, over 100,000 people died of drug overdoses, the vast majority of which was chinese fentanyl streaming across the border under joe biden. and we saw just this week in texas the horrific consequences.
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a mass murderer who in cold blood assassinated five people assassinated a family, including an eight-year-old child, we now know that mass murder wasn't illegal alien who had repeatedly entered the country illegally and had been repeatedly deported him and yet -- deported, and yet because of the open border policy, ice is prevented from departing dangerous illegal immigrants, he was here to commit that mass murder. that crime should never have happened. those five people should be alive. the child should be alive, but the open border policies that biden and harris have put in place are causing misery, suffering, and death every day. i spent a lot of time at the southern border. the same is not true for the president. the same is not true for the
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vice president. you come down to the rio grande valley, as john cornyn, lindsey graham have many, many times, and within minutes you see the human suffering that has unfolded. you see texas farmers and ranchers showing you photograph after photograph of dead bodies, of migrants they find that the traffickers have abandoned on their properties. a few weeks ago at a judiciary committee, there was one person testifying and i asked, how me migrants died crossing the border illegally last year? he said, i don't know. i have no idea. remember that the next time he tells you how compassionate he is. he doesn't even bother to know how many people his policies are killing. the answer is 853. when we were down there, john brought 18 senators to the border and we were on the rio
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grande and we saw a dead body, a man in the water who had drowned crossing illegally. i have seen women who have been violently raped by the cartels. i have seen children little girls, little boys, horribly, physically assaulted, sexually assaulted. what is happening is people -- evil and it is the result of deliberate political decisions and now the biden administration would lift title 42 and here is their great plan. they will make it worse. they don't intend to fix it. they don't intend stop it. they don't intend to shut the cartels and secure the borders and the intent is -- intend to stop the drug traffickers, they intend to make it worse. they want 6 million to become 10 million to become 12 million to become 15 million, and their
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actions demonstrate they don't give a damn about the lives that will be lost in the process. they don't care about the children assaulted in the process. they don't care about the drugs that are killing our children in this country. nobody who looks at what is happening can defend it. because it is indefensible. sen. graham: yes? reporter: where on the administration sending troops to the border? sen. graham: i think it is ridiculous theater that will not change the outcome. they will not be there as soldiers turning people around. they will not be enforcing laws because of the -- they will allow the border patrol to do more administrative work to process these people. they are not doing anything to deter their entry into the
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country, so it is political theater that does not change the dynamic. senator cruz said there comes a point in time and this is really deliberate. 60,000 people have been granted parole under this administration, a process under u.s. law that is meant to be used judiciously. we have a review. there is a certain situation that would allow the person to appear in court with a family member dying -- i think during the trump years, maybe 10 or 12 people were granted parole? 60,000, so what will i do next? with these gentlemen, senators, we are explaining next week will be a bad weekend you could avoid it if you chose to p, the 1500 soldiers will not do a damn thing, but i intend to disclose and uncover a conscious abuse of the law to allow people in through a process that i don't think the law ever intended. so, i think exhibit a as to whether or not this
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administration once to get as many people in the country as they can is going to be how they use/abuse the parole system. reporter: did you feel it was theater was trump sent troops to the border in 2018? sen. graham: i feel donald trump did the best job in my political lifetime. when donald trump did something, it worked. everything he did, as ted suggested, work. the um triangle agreement with the three northern tranquil countries where they would process asylum claims took the problem off the table. he had the lowest illegal crossings in december of 2020 as senator cruz said in five years, so i suggest if you want to compare the trump performance on the border to biden, it is an easy comparison to make. what, urging the biden administration to do? just because trump did it doesn't mean you can't do
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it. your country is being destroyed by illegal immigration and your democratic cities are being overwhelmed as ted and john have talked about. the human misery is the on one's imagination. you can bitterly repeat what trump did to gain control of the situation if you chose to. now, why can't they do that? because the radical left owns this administration. the parole policies are pushed by people who want everybody in the world to come here. the change in border policy was driven by a group of people on the left of the democratic party that believes we should have open borders and if you do not get that by now, you have missed a lot. sen. cruz: may i add something to that? look, sending troops to the border can have anna norma's positive effect. there is no doubt boots on the ground matter the weather military troops in the national guard, texas dps officers and the weather border control agents. boots on the ground are an
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important part of how you secure the border. however, under joe biden, the 1500 troops he is sending will accomplish nothing to secure the border and they are not designed to come in here is why. the troops on the border are beneficial if you have a policy that when you apprehend someone, you deport them, then the trips are on the border helpful for apprehending people coming across. as long as the biden administration keeps and plays catch and release, he could send 1500, 10,000, 100,000 troops, it would do nothing to secure the border. why? every illegal immigrant they encountered they hand over to the biden administration and the biden administration would them, more than let them go, put them on a plane or bus and take them to whatever city in america they want to go to. joe biden is the last mile of the human trafficking network.
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and to understand how horrific it is, i encourage you to go back to the testimony before the senate judiciary committee, which all three of us vigorously question him at the time. there was one moment and questioning when i put up a poster board that had a series of pictures of colored wristbands, and i asked him, mr., what are these colored wristbands? his answer, he said, i don't know. i have no idea. i have to admit that answer actually surprised me. very little he said the net hearing surprised me. that answer astonished me. and my response to him, i said mr. secretary you have just told the american people that you are utterly incompetent at your job and you do not even care about doing it. why? because just about every illegal immigrant who crosses the border has one of those colored wristbands around the wrists. if you stand on the banks of the rio grande, as we have come to you will see hundreds, thousands
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of colored wristbands in the grass. for him to say he did not know what they are tells me he has never stood on the banks of the rio grande here he has never bothered to ask the border patrol agents, hey, what is going on here? the colors on the wristband correspond to how many thousands of dollars that illegal immigrants out the cartels -- owe the cartels. virtually all of them come in massive debt to the cartels. the cartels, this is cargo. not human beings. this is how they treat them and you have teenage boys who come in and out $3000, $4000, $5,000 to the cartels with the biden administration sends them to your city and those teenage boys are working for the drug cartels. they have to work for the drug cartels because they will murder their families back home if they don't miss so every city in america is getting an influx of
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criminals working for the drug cartels courtesy of joe biden and kamala harris, and as bad as it is for the boys, the girls have it a lot worse. there are thousands upon thousands of girls in sex slavery right now, in forced prostitution. i look at those wristbands as modern-day leg irons, and for the secretary of homeland security to say, i don't even know what they are tells you that he has not spent one day going into the office saying, tell me what's happening at the border and how do we stop it. he is not trying to stop it. the administration rather, is trying to accelerated, and create even more illegal immigration. sen. graham: one last question. reporter: can i clarify -- [indiscernible voices] the biden administration is reinstating -- [indiscernible voices] why is that insufficient?
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sen. graham: well, you know, all i can tell you is we went from the lowest to the highest illegal crossings on record. they're talking about setting up processing centers inside mexico and other countries, which is a good idea. remaining in mexico worked. people will not pay a cartel $10,000 to sit in mexico for five or 10 years. that is why it went to a trickle. the exceptions they have concern the rule itself. unaccompanied minors do not have to comply with this. the rebuttal for presumption, you can show up the border and be processed was that the bottom line is the processes that we know work were repealed for a political reason. title 42 ends may 11 and we are begging the administration. it is in your power to adequately substitute title 42
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authority. you haven't done nothing from my point of view, and ted knows is better than anybody, to provide an adequate substitute comes that the reason 10,000 people in one city have gathered waiting for may 12 is because they don't see an adequate substitute. people voting with their feet on the ground tell you that they do not see anything replacing title they are concerned about. these surges would not be existing ithey found a way to replace title 42 and communicate it to people that you are sting your time and money, so the fa the surge is coming tells me they've made no corrective action and senator cruz and i would gladly sit down with the administration and give them ideas about what they could do to stop the surge, but there has been no interest on their part. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2023] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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