rudy giuliani and others have been exposed as they continue to traffic in russian disinformation that not only props up donald trump but it props up vladimir putin himself and his goals back in russia and in ukraine. so i just want to point out here that once again as i said when we had a false impeachment hearing a few months ago that once again -- >> time is expired. time is expired. >> donald trump all over this hearing. >> i just want to state you made a mistake and said that mr. parnas is a republican witness. he is very much your witness. >> i was republican for donald trump. >> pursuant to the previous order, the chair declares the committee and recess due to votes. subject to the account of the chair, we will reconvene 10 minutes after the three votes. >> all right. and the warden with the help of

facilitating access to my attorney. hunter biden did

not appear. he testified privately last >> all right. committee will reconvene. the chair now recognizes mr. . perry from pennsylvania for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i will turn my question to you. i hope i can see you on the screen there shortly. are you there? if we can jump right into another biden chinese deal made while joe biden was in office, a deal i think you described in your interview as a print "where the chinese spent millions in exchange for a post bp job for president biden. can you tell us what was

burnham? >> burnham was an 85-year-old financial company in new york and a securities dealer. are relative to the chinese, it was an unimportant and small player. i think it was a scale of 1.5 billion dollars versus a 100 million billion hunter biden's interest in chinese company. >> what was g the situation? >> i think hunter biden was already working with them when he created the bhr harvest and according to hunter palace email, he described activity with bhr. activity as one of his only focuses, and his other focus would be the focus between harvest directly and burn him.

so in writing, it was to be his only focus in on the priority with the chinese on a go-forth basis. >> did you also say the interest in working with burnham was to make billions instead of millions. is that correct? >> i was on the basis of looking to become a much larger company were his equity interest would be worth a lot of money. billions. not millions. >> you said it was a $300 million chinese financial services company. was a connected closely to the chinese communist party and the chinese government? >> that is my understanding. >> okay. and who is henry's out? ri bed to >> he has been described to me as the chairman. but he is essentially the head

of harvest and i think he has had a couple of different roles over the years but chairman and decision-maker for that entity. >> right. so he is the chairman of the $300 billion chinese entity connected to the chinese government to the chinese government party and he is based where? where was his base of operations? >> in china. prc. >> you heard him referred to occasionally as chairman zhao. >> yes. out of respect for the chairman. >> okay. and there came a point where they wanted to bring henry zhao into business with burnham. is that correct? and why would he do that? >> it was financial. the chinese wanted money and he offered political access in

exchange. >> fair enough. it is pretty obvious what harvest brings. $300 million. but why would harvest be interested in burnham versus other financial institutions? i am sure there are other was out there. is fairly small to the $300 billion. why would they care about this small burnham? >> i mean, the self-evident answer is that political access. and the underscoring to that is that there are at least two emails produced that talk about exactly that. the influence of what henry zhao and hunter had characterized as interest in the access vehicle. so that was explicit and in writing. >> okay. so joe biden was going to sit on the board of a chinese company connected to the

chinese communist party and stepping back from your dealings with hunter, what was the value that hunter brought to the table? >> it was the inducement of -- to induce companies like this harvest group to participate in burnham. we will call it relationship capital that he brought to the table. not financial capital. >> relationship capital. relationship capital that you described as the biden lift. what was the biden lift? >> it was definitely hunter's access to his father, and his father's power of prestige in influencing the growth of financial services businesses that relied on his reputation and that ability to attract other clients. >> i am running out of time here but it sounds like a print quote quote to me. sir, harvested in fact invest money

in burnham? you called it a material inducement. can you explain what that means and how much the chinese paid? >> i believe that it was out of the picture towards the end of 2014. i believe they ended up paying $4 million into burnham. i believe you all the legal entanglements that i encounter that the transactions did not happen the way people expected or that they had written about in terms of what the chinese were expected to do. >> okay. mr. galanis, one more question. i will show you a draft email that you provided to the committee. now, mr. chairman, i yield. >> good job. the chair now recognizes mr. crockett for one minute or five minutes. >> one minute. all right. first of all, mr. bobulinski,

do you know who elections llc is? yeah. >> well it is not a who. >> do you know what it is? >> yes. it is an llc. >> is at the llc that your attorney works for? >> i believe so. >> you believe so? okay. i would ask for unanimous consent that that law firm representing tony bobulinski was paid $10,000 as recently as january of this year by the save america pact which you may recognize as donald trump's pact. >> without objection. >> thank you. now, so far in this hearing it has felt like the worst episode of "the apprentice." i am sure you are familiar with that show. it seems like you and some others are trying to become the next vice president of the united states of america. your addition or something like that because mr. bobulinski, i know you take exception to the

fact that your credibility has been called into question over and over but when someone comes to testify under oath whether it is before this committee, behind closed doors, or in person, then we have to evaluate someone's credibility and, sir, i definitely have always had issues with your credibility as i know you are very well aware of. so let me remind you what happened behind closed doors. i am asking a question. okay? >> you are? >> when i ask you a question, that is when you answer and otherwise i am talking. >> excuse me? >> with my time, i want to be clear that when we are behind closed doors you caught a number of people liars. you called cassidy hutchinson a liar. you called the fbi a when we were behind closed doors, you called a number of people liars here you called the wall street journal liars. you called cassidy hutchinson a liar. you called the fbi a liar. you called hunter biden a liar.

you called jim biden a liar and today you added to your list, you called my colleague, mr. goldman, a liar as well. it seems according to you the only person telling the truth is you and everyone else is lying. but i want to move on to something else. >> is that a question? >> it is not a question. you will know when i ask you a question, i promise. the other thing i want to talk about is the fact my colleague from the other side of the aisle talked about the company that we keep and she wanted to go through a list of people that she felt like were bad im company because right now the majority has been relying upon the testimony of someone who is currently sitting in federal prison and we know that your company is the company of somebody who has been found liable of fraud, as well as defamation, as well as sexual

assault, and for whatever reason, can't pay his bills at this point in time, but i am going to ask, are you aware if trump had any associates that have been found guilty of anything? >> yes, lots of them. me included. >> lots of them? you included? okay, so when you are called here to testify, you aren't called here to testify for any reason than to tell the truth. correct? >> yes, congresswoman. >> we started this whole sham >> because of the 1023 and that was debunked by you. was it not? >> yes, congresswoman. >> way before we started this impeachment inquiry and you mentioned a man by the name of rudy giuliani. >> yes.

>> everyone is surprised hunter and here today, but hunter can't testify behind closed doors for six hours and they were limited to five minutes. there is a full transcript of his testimony so i don't know what else they wanted to do besides put on a show, but let me tell you something. this is based on something rudy giuliani came up with. and we try to subpoena him. that is what i remember. we asked. we said, hey, we should subpoena giuliani but when we tried to get his cell phone, they shut it down because they didn't want the facts. you would agree with me that considering you're working under rudy giuliani at the time you went to ukraine, that he has maybe some valuable information that he could offer this committee asked whether or not there is anything we should be investigating in the first place. >> absolutely, congresswoman. i wish this committee would put him under oath, alongside me, to get to the bottom of the

truth of what actually happened in ukraine. as a manipulation trump and the team want to do. >> i agree with you, but somehow it doesn't look like we will get there. >> time has expired. >> mr. big seam arizona? >> mr. galanis, on may 9th, 2014 , you received in the mail -- or you wrote any mail confirming that ms. was investing $15-$20 million. is that true? >> yes. >> let's talk about the predicate for that. she's the richest woman in russia and you knew her. were you invited to a party she attended? >> yes, in brooklyn. >> let's have the invitation, please. is this a copy of the invitation

you received? is that right? >> i can't see it, congressman. i received an email invitation. >> yes, an email invitation and did you go to the party? >> yes. >> was hunter biden at that party? >> yes, he was. >> we know he was because we have confirmation on his calendar, the next exhibit. it was noted and he showed up there and so all of that is true. i will verify it right there. and then yelena baturina and her husband were at the party . >> correct? >> with devon archer as well? >> correct. >> hunter pulled them away from where the party is and you go to a separate area where it is quieter because there were over. 100 people at that party.

is that true? >> yes. >> hunter says, okay, i am going to make a phone call. he makes a phone call, does he not? >> he does. >> to whom? >> his father. >> what was said on the call, please? wait a second. the reason you know is because he put it on speakerphone, right? >> he did. after he said hello, he put it on speakerphone. i heard it and -- >> summit up. >> i'm sorry. >> please sum up that phone call for us, mr. galanis. >> it was -- our friends have come in from out-of-town that then the exchange was related to -- things are going to proceed

and he said that the vice president had said, "look after my boy." >> it was five days after that party that you received word from devon that miss baturina was in for 15 to $20 million with you guys, right? >> correct. >> let's go to a different issue, the harvest issue. refresh everyone's recollection. when devon archer was there , at that time -- we had this great conversation and i said hey, did hunter ever say he might join the company with one of the companies advisors? mr. archer said, did he intimate that? and i said, diddy indicates that to you? he said i don't recall, but potentially.

potentially. you don't recall but it is not new to you? the concept is not new to you? is that what you're saying? why wasn't it new to him? why wasn't it new to him? go ahead. >> it wasn't explicit amongst us that that was an inducement to the chinese to invest in the burnham business. the vp's position is the official position. >> on the board of advisors? >> of the chinese company, harvest. yes. >> when you say us, who was the us? >> what i was referring to in ab making that comment was hunter, devon, and myself. >> let's go do something else. >> it was a broader circulation reflecting in an email from the thorton group who circulated a

draft email that indicated he had a conversation and drafted a letter based on that understanding. >> how long have you been incarcerated, mr. galanis? >> about eight years . >> and you offered to tell the ncc about hunter biden's company and they rejected your offer, didn't they? >> that's correct. >> why do you think they rejected that offer? >> your time has expired, but please answer the question, mr. galanis. >> all i can tell you is what counsel said to me . counselor indicated to me he had never seen a prosecution reject information, particularly information that could have corroborated my verbal statements. >> thank you. my time has expired. >> very good.

>> thank you, mr. chairman. i am here today once again to focus on the real issues in our community instead of this partisan circus. let me say that influence peddling is absolutely a very serious issue. full stop. but we all know the truth. donald trump is the and essential influence peddler in chief. despite this, for well over a year now, house republicans have spent dozens of hours of committee time hearing testimony from nearly 20 witnesses on their baseless, increasingly embarrassing attempts to link president biden to actions of his family members and implicate him by association. even after all of this time and effort, they haven't been able to muster up any credible link between the wi president and his son's business dealings. all they have proven is due whatever it takes including using their razor thin majority

ships and charities to waste everyone's time. let this be the final nail in the coffin of this sham impeachment investigation. admit that their quest to impeach the president has completely collapsed. they have fallen short and with each passing deal they are losing votes and credibility even within their own conference. it is time for them to move on, but that is not likely to happen because my colleagues don't care about responsible government or making people's lives better. they don't have in a formative event -- agenda. they would rather have accusations against the president so it is no coincidence under republican leadership 2023 marked the most unproductive year in modern history for congress. aside from a failed impeachment investigation, three-week stint without a speaker, bringing our country to the brink of a catastrophic government shutdown multiple times, republicans have done absolutely nothing to

demonstrate why they deserve to control any chamber of commerce , let alone the white house foru which their coleader, a twice impeached, for time indicted former president is running to d gain influence and control again. they are just grasping at straws. it would be comical if it weren't leading to real harm and real hurt in our communities. the people in our countries are paying the price for their failure to actually govern. instead of wasting our time, our hours and hours going down fake rabbit holes and baseless conspiracies, we could focus on actual policy. we could focus on substance and on saving and improving the lives of our constituents, not wasting precious time and resources. i would rather focus on the people who don't have the money to buy influence, the millions harmed by the ongoing refusal of the federal government to take responsibility for the manhattan project waste and who

are still getting sick from exposure to toxic, radioactive waste their own government created. it lingers in communities across the country, like in st. louis, missouri, where proper cleanup remains undone. i am the ranking member on the growth and energy policy regulatory affairs and i have requested a hearing on waste and its countless victims. i'm still waiting. we could focus on any of the crises of nonviolence. everyday 327 people are shot in the united states. every year, 42,654 people die from gun violence. more children die from guns than anything else in this country. why are we not acting to protect them? how are we not treating us like the public health emergency that it is? we could focus on improving thea lives of incarcerated individuals and the state. currently an incarcerated individual is our witness today.

i applied your inclusivity. if folks convicted of crimes can testify before congress, they should be allowed to vote. why not enfranchise them? what about reproductive rights of freedom? we have a public health crisis where millions of reproductive age can't get the care they need. people are forced to give birth against their well. republicans need and use abortion care like the rest of us. why not meaningfully address this issue? we need to focus on ending the atrocities in gaza and israel. since january, malnutrition has nearly doubled. famine is a minute for 1.1 million people. half the population due to catastrophic food insecurity. why are we not trying to prevent famine and the spread of disease and ending the slaughter of palestinians? we do not have infinite time and resources. i will stop there. thank you and i yield. >> thank you so much.

>> i want to point to a photo here. mr. bobulinski, you said you met mark meadows, then chief of staff for donald trump, at a rally in georgia behind secret service cars. >> your time has expired. >> sir, you went over a minute late with mr. perry. we can have a little extra time. at the trump rally -- >> your time has expired. >> mr. chairman, could we have basic equity? >> if someone else wants to yield, she had eight seconds. he's already been up here with a speech and he has abused his privilege about making a motion. >> the chair has rolled. the chair has rolled. >> what are you afraid of, mr. chairman? >> the chair recognizes the gentle man from -- oh, what purpose do you seek re recognition, mr. biggs? >> introduce the records -- documents into the record. >> without objection. >> one was the invitation

mentioned end of the other was hunter biden's calendar. another is the email mentioned confirming that yelena baturina would invest $20 million. the other was paid 180 of the galanis interview, and pages 41 and 42 of the galanis interview . >> so ordered into the record. >> what purpose do you seek recognition? >> proceed. >> i would like to enter into the record the portion of the devon archer transcript, where he says yelena baturina never had any business dealings with hunter biden and money went into their joint account was done by mistake. >> by mistake. >> mr. chairman, it's embarrassing republicans worry they have zero accomplishments to run on elections. >> without objection, so

ordered. the chair recognizes the gentleman from texas for five minutes. >> thank you so much. i would like to enter into the record 302's done with mr. bobulinski in exhibit 400a. >> mr. bobulinski, thank you for being here and to those of you appearing extraneous leak on our screen. mr. bobulinski, tell me quickly about the professionalism of the organization that you work for in terms of paychecks, getting paychecks, providing the irs with documentation of people who are paid out of the organization. >> i'm not sure i am following your question. >> were you ever paid? >> i was not. >> so you are never paid by

this organization? >> i was not. >> did you receive enumeration? >> we were in the process of trying to shut down llc, i was compensatedum. it wasn't a compensation, it was a reimbursement of $50,000 that had come out of pocket traveling around paying for hotels and stuff like that, so -- >> in other words, people do not get paid, or you didn't get paid that you are aware of. were you aware other people were being paid? >> the biden family was paid. hunter was paid millions of dollars. >> how would you think that information would be transmitted about them receiving that payment and going to the irs? >> i'm not sure of the specifics. i'm just aware they received those millions of dollars obviously based on the brave testimony of zigler who came public with a bunch of

information and a senator johnson and grassley's report. i never saw -- the only bank on account i saw was the one i set up at j.p. morgan for holdings llc. j.p. morgan was well aware the biden family were owners. they authorized it and approved it. >> what social security number was used to set up the account? >> we used -- we had to re represent the owners of the underlying entity so they were aware hudson was 450% and provided their information on the oneida side we represented each of us owned 20% and i would have to go back and look here i, as the ceo, provided my social security number. i'm not sure if we provided social security numbers for all members. excuse me, tax i.d.s for their llcs. >> yet you never received money except reimbursement for out-of- pocket expenses related to the

business. >> correct and imagine that $50,000 i was paid was from the legal side of holdings when receiving millions of dollars into their own pockets. >> were you aware they were receiving millions of dollars at the time? >> i was not. >> did you spend time with the department of justice on this matter? >> i did. i had a voluntary interview with the fbi on october 23rd, i believe, of 2020. >> they approached you, or you approached them? >> my lawyers coordinated me. this was public knowledge. i flew to d.c. with the intent of sitting in front of senator johnson, grassley, and the committee. my lawyers decided it was a better focus of my time to walk there and how -- voluntarily

into the fbi in washington, d.c. >> maine fbi, or the field office? >> i believe it was the main field office. they didn't want to do it in main justice for whatever reason. >> did he tell you at the time your provided information that if you provided information that was not true and correct, you couldn't be held liable for that under criminal statute? >> yes, of course. i appreciate you asking that question. pr i was represented i misstated or lied which i take seriously based on the fact i was willing to die for this country. to correct ms. crockett's statement earlier, i didn't accuse the fbi of lying. i stated the fbi made mistakes in their 300 to. my lawyers never saw that document after my interview until it was made public to the world. >> and you attempted to correct

that 300 and? >> >> i did. >> is that the same 302 in the record? the >> i did. >> is there any other dispute? >> well, there are numerous mistakes. >> did you have reason to believe all of the reports that have come out of banks were all fraud? >> your time has expired, but he asked the question about the report. >> just the number of reports should give every american pause. the average american in this country will never receive a single star in their life so for an individual to have over 150 of them is dressed extraordinary. -- just extraordinary. >> i would like to thank all of the witnesses. >> your time has expired. the chair recognizes mr. frost. >> thank you, mr. chairman.

if i could have my full five minutes, i'd appreciate that. >> reset the time to five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. while we clearly disagree, i hope, chairman, we can come to an agreement on the basics. i believe you and i can agree that presidents and white house officials should not be influenced by foreign powers. chairman, i would be happy to yield to you briefly for a yes or no, can we all agree that white house officials should not be bribed or unduly influenced by foreign actors? >> it is your time. we have witnesses here. we have witnesses, if you want to ask a witness the question or if you want to waste time with me. >> i'm not wasting time. we have been disagreeing all day and i hope to come to an agreement white house officials should not be bribed or influenced by foreign powers.

i see you nodding your head, so i will assume that is a yes. i'm glad we can work as an oversight committee on investigations, doing the work we need to do, and making sure no one in the white house has betrayed the public trust. we have spent countless hours talking about hunter biden, investigating every single person it seems he has ever shaken hands with. we have not found a shred of evidence that connects it to the president of the united states or anyone with any say over u.s. policy but someone who has worked in the white house did accept money from a foreign power. donald trump son-in-law, jared kushner, received a staggering $2 billion from saudi arabia for his brand-new private equity firm and while hunter biden never had any say over u.s. policy, mr. kushner got to this $2 billion six months after working in the white house as a senior advisor on middle east policy. mr. kushner had no experience

in private equity. in fact, he was so inexperienced, saudi officials tried to block the transfer of money until the crown prince overruled them. while working at the white house, mr. kushner pushed through a $110 billion -- >> gentlemen, yield. >> i am finishing my point and then i'm happy to talk about it. he defended the deal in the wake of the murder of a journalist and while this may be a coincidence, there are many questions, like with any of the money passed along to trump? was the saudi money a thank you for a job well done in the white house? was jared given this money in exchange for something else? did someone with no experience have a lucky payday? these are questions we should have answers to and things the oversight committee should look into. >> what was the role that jared kushner played in covering up the assassination and dismemberment? >> gentlemen, yield.

>> i want to know if hunter biden had accepted $2 billion from the saudi government i'm sure we would be looking into that today. mr. chairman, i believe we can agree there should not be undue influence in the white house and i believe we should be able to agree we should look into these questions about mr. kushner. in fact, mr. chairman, you were on cnn and said, quote, i have been very vocal that what kushner did crossed the line of ethics. then in our deposition of hunter biden the other day , when we were discussing mr. kushner, you said, mr. chairman, and i quote, when we deal with influence peddling, we will ask about jared kushner. well, today's hearing is called influence peddling. we are here. i would love to hear from you. can we fulfill our responsibility as the oversight committee and determine if saudi arabia bribed or influenced jared kushner or

other white house officials? >> we've already had a conversation with ms. porter. i pledge to work on legislation and we will take up all of the people accused of influence peddling and determine whether jared kushner has real business. we haven't been able to find real business with the bidens just yet. >> could we expect to subpoena mr. kushner's correspondence with the saudi government, or financial records, or financial transactions between mr. kushner and his father-in-law? l is that something we would consider doing as part of the hearing you just discussed? >> what was the question? >> if we are serious about looking into foreign money -- i saw her recently a poster board here $100,000 to a car dealership. will we be serious about the $2 billion from the saudi government to mr. kushner? will we be subpoenaing jared's

correspondence and financial records? >> it is important to see if there were real, legitimate businesses. let me ask you a question. what business was hunter biden and? >> we heard explicitly from mr. biden. we heard explicitly about his extensive business records. mr. kushner on the other hand -- >> your time has expired. >> before i start my questions, i would like to submit to the record an article from the kyiv post and a second article from the kyiv post, general resigns. it is updated. >> without objection. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i sat in on the entire deposition hunter biden gave to this committee and one of the things that stood out to me were his assertions with flair of his business experience and

his impeccable qualifications. he claimed with quite some vigor that he was a brilliant, accomplished, highly sought after business commodity and had an unparalleled resume he recited to us chapter and verse to prove it. that was at least to face his lawyers, house democrats wanted him to where. of course, there is another possibility, this thing called reality, that he was a spoiled, entitled, east coast with senator and vp daddy who squandered his life advantages and spiraled into a decadent behavioral pattern of narcissistic access and criminal addiction. to feed his large appetite, he acted as his family's bad men in an influence peddling scheme that got the biden tribe $24 million in illicit, foreign cash. lots of money, little effort, in a

get rich quick scheme. if he was such a skilled and gifted businessman, as he claims, his services would be fought over. to your knowledge, how many fortune 500 companies retain hunter biden on their board of directors? >> now? >> ever. >> i can't confirm any. >> because there aren't any. zero. how many energy companies -- american energy companies retain hunter biden on their board of directors? >> zero. >> zero. correct. there was one company on the board of directors. >> yes, in ukraine. >> really? he was hired for no saul -- small some. i apologize for laughing, but he said his corporate governance to the table. he brought something far more valuable than his corporate governance in his fictitious is

nice. he brought his daddy with him. u joe biden happened to have been given the company of ukraine to oversee by the obama administration, so let's go over some facts. the ceo had been investigated for corruption. in 2015, then u.s. ambassador to ukraine specifically mentioned charisma. fact. was paying the son of a vice president of the united states to serve on the board. fact, joe biden visited ukraine. the general of ukraine investigating burisma, his son's boss, is fired. february second, 2016, kyiv post reports viktor shokin seized assets of burisma . two weeks later, fact, he resigns. the president called him into

resign and he resigned. he was essentially fired. fact. 2016, in february just two weeks later, here is an email sent from co of burisma, an executive of burisma to hunter biden asking, hey, hunter, will you help us out getting the u.s. embassy in ukraine to say we are a good company? the ambassador said they were corrupt a few months prior to that end low and behold with the seal of the united states embassy, they say we have no negative information or feelings about burisma. so, what changed in those six months? it was magic. the power of the vice president's visit when he demands his son's boss -- the prosecutor, who is investigating his son's boss -- be fired and he will withhold $1 billion worth of aid if he's

not fired? then he is fired, the embassy says burisma is a great company . our democratic colleagues, mr. chairman, would like us to believe that is all magic and there is no coincidence here. with that, i yield the balance y of my time to mr. jordan. >> i appreciate the gentleman yielding. i wanted to point out that jared kushner was one of the key officials in the abraham accords. if you want to talk about influencing foreign, how about the president of the united states and what he said in the state of the union regarding israel? how about what the leader of the senate said last week, that israel should change its prime minister? that is a concern. kushner was doing good work with the abraham accords. of course, the democrats don't want to admit that. >> the chair now recognizes -- >> mr. chairman, i move pursuant to rule 11 that the committee issue a subpoena to jared kushner to compel

testimony related to $2 billion collected from saudi arabia after his service within the white house. >> second. >> motion and second for what purpose? >> move to table the motion. >> there has been a motion. the mate -- motion to table is not debatable. as many are in favor of tabling, signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> anyone opposed, say no. >> no. >> the tran25s have it. the chair recognizes -- ms. whitty? who is next? >> republicans are relying on mr. bobulinski as their star witness . the only fact witness they have brought in in person before this committee, so i think we would all expect mr.

bobulinski would have extensive inside knowledge about the involvement , alleged, that president biden and in hunter's business ventures. previous impeachment inquiries relied on whistleblowers with intimate details of what went on. you know, firsthand accounts of high crimes and misdemeanors. you could point to exactly what the allegations were and understand exactly what was going on. wh there were laid out chains of events, lying under oath, obstruction of justice, incitement of insurrection, yet we are left with zero direction, zero real evidence as we watch this court struggle to continue on. today we have mr. bobulinski, whose biggest contribution was he had multiple meetings with joe biden. but let's be clear, he spoke with joe biden a grand total of two times in the span of less than 24 hours in 2017 and each was short. one, in public in the bar of the hotel, and backstage at a

conference after biden spoke about the efforts to fight cancer, which took the life of his son. we need to clarify that while mr. bobulinski is all of a sudden today claiming they talked business , at no point did he mentioned that this during his deposition under oath with this committee. when asked about what was said in these conversations, mr. bobulinski's account made clear he had zero substantive business discussions with joe biden and described this twice during his transcribed interview , both times providing the same account. i will read from a transcript of your interview, mr. bobulinski. you said you and joe biden discussed her family background in detail as well as the biden family's background and joe biden's appreciation for the military, 48 through 62 of the transcript. based on your own account, you had zero discussion of the chinese energy company. zero discussion on shares of equity or capitalization of

this failed business venture. based on your own account, you simply exchanged has entries about your families and shared values, the kind of small talk any person would make if they had the opportunity to meet the former vice president of the united states, and moved on. yet today when my republican colleagues are desperate for actual evidence, magically the story changes and that is at the heart of everything we are discussing today. mr. bobulinski has been pushing his record as proof the wall street journal found none of it showed any role for joe biden and even fox news reported there was zero evidence of business dealings involving joe biden. mr. bobulinski would have us be believe everyone is a liar , except him. except for when he is under oath , that everyone is remembers, except for him, and except for when he is under oath. fbi, washington journal, his business associations are all liars. fox news keep saying look at

the documents. look at the documents. so, let's look. the reported investigation has received 100,000 pages of documents and not a single one shows evidence of wrongdoing, much like -- less an individual offense. even if he had discussed his business ventures with tony bobulinski, so what? what would be the high crime or misdemeanor? what would be the impeachable offense? we are talking about what private citizen, hunter biden, was doing at the time with at the time his private citizen dad. there is no evidence. it's not about impeachable offenses. it's about keeping the american people distracted while we do nothing to reduce gun violence, to lower healthcare costs, to reform the criminal legal system . this has been the least productive congress in decades. we are just now in march funding the government for this year. that is shameful. his hearing is a waste of our time and resources. i yield with that and i yield

the remainder of my time to representative crockett. >> i wanted to make sure i point out -- and this is not a question -- on page 174 on your transcribed interview, line 9, it says this is an absolute lie in reference to talking about the fbi, what you stated. >> i did not say the fbi agent was lying. i said he was mistaken. >> i am speaking. first of all, it didn't say tony bobulinski told the fbi. this is the summary of two agents that took notes in the interview and apparently what they presented said bobulinski met in person with members of the biden family at a 2017 meeting in miami, florida. this is an absolute lie. that is what it says. the final thing i will say is about this. what we have from ken buck, i don't think the impeachment of

biden is appropriate and so house speaker mike johnson's ability to talk me into staying here is going to be about as successful as his ability talking me into an unconstitutional impeachment. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from tennessee. >> on july 30th, 2017, hunter biden wrote to his chinese business associates, i'm sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. mr. bobulinski, why did raymond zhao work for -- who did he work for? cfc, connected to the child muni he us -- communist party? >> it is. >> from your perspective, what had occur from the end of may or to the july 30th text message? >> well, it is tough to go through all of the details in 20

second clips but at the end of july, it is important to note jim biden was broke. hunter biden was broke. the brave whistleblower. hunter made the conscious decision to basically defraud the partners of holdings because he needed money immediately. they have published pages of text messages he's trying to get money into his bank account and that night for whatever reason on the 30th when he asked why hasn't the commitment been fulfilled, the commitment he is talking about is actually the $10 million funding into cy hawk holdings llc. really key point. the very next day, he decides he is going to defraud oneida, create a new entity -- actually, it had previously been created by the chinese and make himself

a 50% owner in that entity so when the chinese did send money, he would have instant access to its. really important. backed up with tens of pages of communications. he wanted to get access to the money the second it came in. he did not have that power. i just want to address one thing. hunter biden represents he is a governance expert. that's why burisma put them on the board , but he can't do basic math. the board had seven votes. each one of them, hunter, jim biden, walker had a single vote. i had three votes. i have a masters degree in electrical and nuclear engineering. i had three and they had four. they controlled oneida holdings. hunter biden's representations i was trying to take the business from them, i didn't know, it is all a sham and a

misrepresentation. he wanted money in his account and that is why he shook down the chinese and they were willing to send him that $5 million because they viewed it as a bribe to the biden family. they say it in their own communications. >> are you aware if they paid taxes on that? >> i can only go from public testimony. >> the next day on july 31st, hunter says he hopes kevin should know the plan to speak is highly confidential and zhaod responded their willing to cooperate with the families mentioned last night. what family was zhao talking about? >> a biden family and more importantly, what is he talking about is the confidential manner. the confidential matter he is talking about were for sealed indictments. they were about to indict executives of cefc. charles mcgonagle, who is

apparently going to serve 70 months in prison, ran counterintelligence for the fbi in new york city where the chairman was dropping $50 million of cash for penthouses in manhattan. so you should be asking these questions are the department of justice, the fbi because they have troves of evidence that backup what was going on in july of 2017 and august of 2017 . i apologize to be so passionate and to take your time but this is what i need you guys -- the focus has to be of your oversight committee. this involves the chinese communist party. they were doing a transaction with a russian sanctioned, u.s. sanctioned company at the time and the biden family was right front and center in the middle of it. >> let's switch gears. i wish hunter biden were here because i want to ask him about his taxes and i want to know if

he paid his fair share , like his dad asks americans to do. i want to ask him if he is current on his taxes and if not, i want to know when he will pay up. mr. bobulinski, did you pay your taxes? >> i did. >> like the president's son, democrats act like hunter too. joe biden has no right to lecture the american people about their taxes until he gets his own house in order. >> mr. moscowitz? >> mr. chairman, thank you. how are you doing? good? okay. mr. bobulinski -- over here. how are you doing? i have a question. we have been at this for months now in oversight. do you think chairman comber ti has proven that joe biden has committed a high crime and misdemeanor? >> yes, he has proven joe biden has committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

>> i assume you believe joe biden should be impeached? >> that is up to you guys. be >> yes, or no? >> do i personally believe? >> do you, personally, believe he should be impeached? >> i do. >> you believe that because the chairman is proven he has committed a high crime and misdemeanor? >> no, i was involved and saw them happen. >> with all of the evidence, you must believe all of these hearings for 15 months, the chairman has proven that, right? >> re-ask the question. >> i will sum it up. i assume you believe he should be impeached. a point is the chairman has not yet moved for that and so, look , chairman, we've got like 3 1/2 minutes. let's just do the miimpeachment why continue to waste millions s of dollars of the taxpayers money if we are going to impeach because you believe you have shown he has committed a

high crime and misdemeanor? what are you waiting on? at let's just do it. we've got chairman jordan here also. double chairman. why aren't you calling for the vote in your committee? when is it going to happen? when can we tell the american people you will stop wasting their money and call for a vote on impeachment? >> we don't s.n.a.p. impeachment like you guys. we check the facts and do oversight. >> you are never going to call for it. >> you can predict the future? how do you know? >> you only have six more months in power before the election. will you do it within two months? three months? >> does the constitution put a time limit on oversight? >> if you believe you can't call for the impeachment now, you have admitted you haven't proven he has committed a high crime or misdemeanor. >> we are doing our work. >> so they haven't proven it, ar

right? they haven't proven it, otherwise we would call for impeachment. look, the chairman knows me well and i am here to help him,i right? i think we should do it today. i will make the motion, mr. chairman. you can second it, right? make the motion to impeach president biden. go ahead. your turn. second it. know? nothing? okay, we got nothing. with my last couple of minutes i want to show the american people they will never impeach joe biden. it is never going to happen because they don't have the evidence. this is a show. it is fake. they just want to do these hearings. they are lying to their face on news. on fox, leading people to believe they will eventually impeach the president. it is not going to happen at all , ever. period. they don't even have the votes, even if they had it in committee. they don't have the votes on the floor. they've got members resigning

rather than take a vote on the fake, faux impeachment. just asked ken buck who said the speaker won't get me to take an unconstitutional impeachment vote. i mean, boy. look. if these hearings were a success, right? if what we have been doing for the last 15 months had convinced the american people joe biden committed a crime and misdemeanor, you can be sure they would have called the vote by now but they wanted to go on. they don't have the evidence. >> are you asking me a question? >> no, i am just looking at you . i don't think you have read the recent data that show that the american people are well aware of the bidens corruption. >> asked the chairman why he sh hasn't called for impeachment. i will do it. watch. hey, chairman, why haven't you called for impeachment? when will we have the hearing? when will the vote happen? you believe it. he believes it.

i just don't know when we will have the vote. let's just go! >> are you asking me? >> no, i just like looking at you. we can save the taxpayers millions of dollars. look, i used all of my time to show this vote is never going to happen because they have no evidence on joe biden. i yield back. >> the chair recognizes burleson from missouri for five minutes. >> switch back and restart the clock. a felony. keep talking. >> we will get you. do you want

to go to that one? >> apologies. >> all right. are we good? >> now we are. >> galanis . mr. galanis, you've heard the expression, say it, forget it. right it, regret it. have you heard that expression, mr. galanis? >> yes, i am here. >> have you heard the expression, say it, forget it, write it, regret it? >> yes. it was used in business with hunter biden and devon archer. >> okay, let me ask you a question. who is harris yousef? >> a ukrainian investor from syria, a longtime colleague of

dimitri. >> he was mentioned earlier this hearing. who is demetrio? >> he is very close to the kremlin who would make his fortune primarily in trading gas for a russia state gas company. >> very connected to vladimir putin? >> very much so. >> he justified his role -- i think you'll find this comical. he justified his role on the ukrainian burisma board by saying it was his patriotic duty that he was serving freedom because there were -- this is his quote, there were two gas companies inside ukraine, one of which was state owned, highly corrupt, and connected going directly into a vladimir putin's pocket. the only independent company was burisma . end quote.

my question to you based on this, he is disparaging mr. frottage, yet are you aware that mr. biden, hunter biden, did business with him? >> yes, i am. >> let me ask you, what kind of financial transactions occurred between them? >> it was described it to me by devon and hunter that a $5 million payment was made and handled through hunter biden's law firm. that was to quash an indictment in the united states. >> if putin wired over $5 million to hunter biden's law firm for what activity? what was hunter supposed to do for that $5.5 million? >> he was supposed to form --

he was quashing an indictment that led to an arrest warrant. >> charged in united states? charged in the united states, in indiana. he used his political influence to do so. my question is, of that money, the $5 million, $3 million made its way to a company set up with devon archer called emblem, correct? >> that is correct. >> and finally there was a transfer made -- and i've got a copy of that bank record to prove that. $275,000. do you recall that transfer? >> i do. yes. >> and went to which account? >> rosemont. >> despite what hunter biden said, was here connected to rosemont seneca ballhype? was

he owner? >> he had direction and control and was a beneficiary of the account. there are emails that he had monies dispersed including to himself. >> it sounds like despite what he is saying, despite what he told the committee, this guy was bad. this guy connected to putin and therefore he had to get on ukraine, yet he had no problem doing business for this corrupt russian oligarch connected it to putin and had no problem taking $5 million in a transfer $275,000. would you agree? >> i would agree with that, yes. >> okay. mr. bobulinski, i've got just a little bit of time left. i want to ask you, for god sake, hunter biden is doing all of these transactions,

doing all of this business and yet, his father is vice president and we are to believe his father isn't aware of all of these -- he's been on phone calls and in the meetings, yet he is not aware his son is doing business with people connected to vladimir putin? are we to believe that? >> it is an absurd expectation. >> thank you. my time has expired. >> thank you. the chair recognizes mr. frost for five minutes. >> the claims made against the president of the united states have been proven to be lies. even house republicans are admitting it is time to close the case. i have a few questions for you in my limited time, so want to get through these. i want everyone to know that you are one of the most credible witnesses that we have had throughout this entire impeachment inquiry. first off, i want folks to know , for folks who are not

familiar, tell me who you're working for between 2018 and 2019. >> rudy giuliani and donald j. trump. >> and to be clear, you answer to rudy giuliani and donald trump directly? >> directly to rudy giuliani. >> when former president trump and rudy giuliani flew you to ukraine to look for corruption on the part of joe biden did you find any? >> no. >> following your ukraine trip, senator grassley and johnson released their report which was unproven allegations that echo an active russian disinformation campaign. are the unproven allegations that are at the heart of the republican report the same fabricated claims donald trump and rudy giuliani sent you to ukraine to dig up? >> yes. >> last summer you wrote a letter to congress that when the media gets tired of the smoke screens, one of the authors of the republican report would be your, "die in

the senate to push all of the information." what did you mean by that? >> johnson was our guy in the senate, the one who would push the information into the halls of congress. >> so when the media was getting skeptical about pushing this information after proving it wrong time and time again, the plan was to have a u.s. senator, ron johnson, to push that information even further? period correct. senator ron johnson jumped on board. >> this congress, both chairman, have this entire impeachment hearing on an fbi tip sheet. this tip sheet made wild claims about bribery that didn't even come close to being backed up and in fact has been proved to be one big lie. is the allegation in the tip sheet based on the same fabricated claims that donald trump and rudy giuliani flew you to

ukraine to dig up? >> yes. >> i want to make it clear the informant behind the tip sheet is facing criminal charges for lying about the biden family and was a known fraud for years before that. the same fabricated claim kept popping up and getting smacked down over and over again. back, our colleagues did an investigation and found this lie dates back to december, 2015. that's almost 10 years ago. do you happen to know the article that i am referring to? >> i don't know the exact article but i know it started back in 2015. >> about 10 years ago called the ukrainian scam of the biden family and it was posted to a russian language media site in crania. do you have any doubt that this fabrication claim, the claim donald trump and rudy giuliani send you to ukraine, as part of

russian propaganda in an effort to destabilize ukraine and undermine our democracy? >> as i have said here today, i have zero doubt that russia is involved. this is a russian campaign to interfere in our elections. >> thank you. i appreciate it as someone with firsthand experience. to recap, there is no support that president biden engaged in ukraine. we know this. mr. parnas has made it clear we should have no doubt the claims of corruption are lies and conspiracy theories rooted in a russian effort to undermine our democracy, posted to a russian language website over a decade ago. this is exactly what putin wants.

>> we have been laughing a lot about this. i want to bring up that this is really serious. we have members of congress at this committee using russian propaganda to undermine our democracy and it is not just theater or laughable, it is a betrayal of our democracy. newly the chair recognizes -- from colorado. >> i guess hiding does run in the biden family. in your testimony, joe biden is

the brand being sold by the biden family. what is the value in helping his family collect millions from foreign adversaries? >> what is the value to joe biden specifically? >> his children were enriched. violating the corruption statutes, and other statutes. >> you would agree that the biden family was involved in this corruption? selling access to the federal government? >> i do. >> in your experience, did president biden play a more active or passive role in his business dealings? in his son business dealings? in his son >> i quantified it previously as him acting sort of like a chairman. he shored -- >> he is a chairman. he shook hands, the ukrainians and russians. russians, whoever that is what they need. whoever

>> i am going to switch to mr. galanis. then candidate for president joe biden said his son did not make any money >> joe biden did not make any money from china, did joe biden lie? yes or no? >> yes. >> you are welcome of the funding that happened with that company. rosemont, the biden entity. correct? you are aware that hunter biden held a 10% of the chinese entity. what it surprise you, if you weren't aware, that hunter biden held 10% of this entity well into the father's presidency? >> it was founded as a business that he owned.

>> what it surprise you that the attorney has testified that he now holds that interest? >> i do not have any knowledge about that. not much of that would surprise me. >> in your testimony, you stated the chinese communist party wanted to compromise the white house during 2015 and continued when joe biden left office, would you agree that compromising the white house is a serious threat to the nation's national security? joe biden has leveraged his election position to allow the biden family to receive $24 million from foreign nationals and their companies. biden is compromised and is a threat to our national security. after today, it is clear that he is a bigger ccc asset.

will we ever get to the agreement that it is far time that congress holds the resident of the white house responsible for selling out the american people? a highly coveted made in china product. i healed of the remainder my balance to my friend from florida. matt gates. >> how much time did you spend in prison? >> four months. and then you spent 50 years in prison, right? you went to trial and you were convicted, right? >> the crime was that you were trying to acquire marijuana licenses and you took money from a russian oligarch and you tried to get political licenses. is that right?

>> the only one working for the russian oligarch is you. right? >> it is public information. i got paid $200,000. >> if you are really worried about our democracy, you were working for a russian oligarch. the fraud you committed against the russian oligarch was instead you spend the money on yourself. instead of spending 50 years in prison you got four months, as this continues, i'm interested to hear how he was treated for speaking the truth. >> the question that mr. gates had -- >> the truth was taking money

from russians to buy marijuana businesses and in coming to lie here about drum. >> the gentleman's time has now expired. >> thank you so much. this is so exhausting. this is really incredibly exhausting. i can imagine residents sitting at home. every time i look up and i see the former chairman, elijah cummings, our first-ever hearing in this room was about the high cost of insulin and the first witness was a mother of twins that had to ration her insulin and lost a child because she could not afford it. i remember a previous chairwoman who really did a phenomenal job continuing to talk about the opiate crisis

and how they were part of a criminal scheme to increase addiction. losing family members because of profit and folks that were drug dealers in suits. all of that to say, the house oversight committee, from committee hearings, the service that matters to the constituents, housing issues, the number of struggles and challenges of everyday americans, i say this sincerely. because what a waste of time. just even some of the colleagues of my folks here continue to say that this is a waste of time. representative meals said that we do not have the will to impeach joe biden. impeachment is not something you have the will to do. it's something you have to have evidence to do.

with don bacon, when the staff tells you they cannot identify a particular crime, there is a problem. you can go on and on. top republicans will admit that there is no top evidence showing that he acted improperly in office to enrich his family members. it goes on and on. the former oversight chair said there is no clear sense of where the impeachment inquiry is going. look, this is incredibly important for the committee. we could be doing phenomenal things and holding the biden administration to a number of issues. i want to know about the american rescue dollars and where that money is being used towards public health or the crisis with families being

impacted by long covid symptoms. these are things we could be doing right now in this chamber and we are not. we are doing this over and over again and it is a waste of time. every time i talk to my constituents about this, they say, when will this be over with? i told him, my colleagues do not know how to lead the campaigning at the steps of the capitol. when we come in here, we have to put that aside and work for our constituents. and getting some kind of understanding where we can prioritize making sure that they have access to clean water. talking about what we continue to see in the healthcare system, all of that, we can hold the biden administration together. things we can see eye to eye on, we need to use this committee. open it up to be the watchdog committee that we are. we are wasting the time of the

american people doing this. to see is going back and forth like this, it is disenchanting for them. you wonder why the numbers out there for the favorability towards congress are so low. they have no faith in us. because of this, this is the kind of stuff that we do, folks are fighting for the right to afford asthma inhalers. we are wasting the people's time. mr. chair, i say this as someone who is a social worker at heart, we can do so many things in bipartisan in this committee. i know it. right now, we are missing out on an opportunity to do that. >> a question i want to ask you, you have had tremendous success in trying to clean up dirty water across america.

we can actually get things done, right? >> absolutely. my colleagues on the other side, you know the clean water crisis. we can bring folks of the epa. where is the biden administration on the development of the lead abatement initiative? what can we do as members of congress to have transparency on where the priorities are. i say this sincerely to all of you, we can do better. i remember chairman cummings reminding me that we can be better. >> before i recognize -- for what purpose does councilmember mclean seek recognition? >> my friends on the other side of the aisle are trying to deflect from the biden family. by attacking president trump. i would like to enter into the

record, jared kushner and hunter biden are nothing alike. thank you. >> thank you, mr. chair, one of the inconsistencies that i have seen is on a text message with raymond tsao and what hunter biden testified to in his own deposition. we talked about this a lot. please have director kony, not james or jim or you, call them in tonight, i'm sitting here with my father, we have talked about this a lot. and in response, he says, i will call you on what's up. on hunter biden's testimony, he says that who he sent this to was not who was connected to

ccfc. >> what he is saying, he made a mistake. it was meant for. maybe he texted it to the wrong person. i do know that based on the communications, he got on the phone with raymond zou. they snapped to and said, we will cooperate with the family. why were they not willing to cooperate with the family? they were bribing the biden family to help them with the unsealed indictments which is the only thing that mattered. >> raymond zou was an interpreter, he was a little bit more.

>> he was kind of the handler. >> he spoke good english. very good english. >> to the extent that this was the wrong zou. if it is a different russell, i will say, you have got the right guy. >> it was to send it to henry zou. henry zou responded. >> just said, copy that, i will call you on whatsapp. perplexed why you got a random text message. >> that is actually raymond zou. >> that is what i am saying. >> the issue that he brings up, he was confused it was the wrong zou. let me ask you a few questions real quick. i officially began to work for

cefc in 2017? >> hunter biden started working for cefc during the fall of 2015. that was confirmed to me by him, james gilly or, numerous face-to-face conversations on it. >> on page 48 on the transcript, he is asked, he has never interacted with any business associates, is that correct? referring to joe biden, is that true? >> considering his threats, based on this whatsapp message, understates, my father had no awareness of the business i was doing. is that true? >> that is a lie. >> jim biden also lied extensively throughout his own testimony. selling plausible deniability that he could not tell the

truth. jim is asked, do you recall having a meeting with hunter biden and joe biden. his response was absolutely not. jim states that joe biden never met with tony bob linsky. >> a former u.s. attorney allowed him to say that live three different times. >> he continued to double down on this. >> he continued to lie about it. >> on page 124 of the transcript, it was hunter biden, myself, i don't know. everyone was 20% okay. it was never executed and never signed. referring to the contract. of the agreement. is that true? >> that is a lie. >> thank you for your testimony

today. yours has been a consistent testimony throughout this process unlike the other people who have come before this committee. with that, mr. chairman, i yield back. >> ms. presley, for five minutes. >> when elijah cummings was the chairman of the committee, our role was to be in the efficient and effective pursuit of the truth. i will try to do exactly that. this has gone 15 months and 10,000 documents and 11,000 hours too long. we have a lot of ground to cover here. thank you for being here. last year, you wrote a long letter detailing your extensive role in the campaign orchestrated to dig up dirt on biden and spread misinformation about them.

with that campaign that failed to find her, there was no dirt to be found, the former occupant of the white house demanded that ukrainian political officials announce investigations into the biden family in order to smear joe biden ahead of the 2020 election. before the task you to try and find her on the biden's in ukraine, did you ever interact with mr. trump? >> before they asked me, yes, i've had many interactions. >> in 2010 you attended a holiday party at trump's white house as shown in this picture. can you describe your interactions during this party? >> yes, he came to the event, a hanukkah party. rudy giuliani joined us. we were all supposed to go to the residence. rudy said to meet him downstairs he will meet with trump himself and update them on everything going on. we waited at the white house

and then eventually went trump came down to make the speech, the speaker came up to us and said to wait at the red room. we waited at the red room for trump to finish his speech. he approached me and shook my hand and said, rudy tells me great things, thank you. and then we proceeded to take pictures. >> what were you referring to exactly? >> the conversation was about ukraine. this is what i took it as, keep up the good work. >> after the party did you interact with trump again or were you cut off with interacting with trump? >> after we were cut off because the blt team was formed and communication went through

rudy giuliani. >> is it fair to say that you think you were no longer invited to interact with trump to create a buffer with trump and rudy giuliani to create evidence of misconduct? >> i was told that we were going to stop going to the events and stuff like that. >> icee. despite his efforts to insulate himself from interacting with you, you kept contacts in the innermost circle including donald trump jr. >> a leper cannot change their spots, you are a prime example of his examples with welcoming people into the circle and creating distance as he relies on you to commit improper acts.

he has enlisted oversight republicans to do his dirty work in an attempt to win the 2024 presidential election by promoting the same lies about president biden, firmly rooted in misinformation and tropicana efforts to undermine you in a vicious russian invasion. >> thank you very much, ms. presley, i want to get back to this photograph here. that i got cut off from before. you have called a number of people liars, fbi agents. >> i've called six fbi agents liars. >> page 174 of the transcript, you said it is not and i forget. >> i don't have time, be quiet. this is a photo. provided by cassidy hutchinson. after you called her a liar

saying that you met with mark meadows and received an envelope. do you see this photo? you acknowledge that as mark meadows in the red hat? >> didn't you tell me to be quiet? >> i asked the question, doing knowledge that is mark meadows? >> maybe you can walk it closer so i can see it? >> will you indulge? >> you are 15 seconds over. >> is that you and mr. meadows by the secret service cars with you in a mask? >> i'm sitting 20 feet away. >> your time is expired. >> can you answer the question? >> what i see in this question, i secret service agent five feet from me with a full mask

on. sitting in an escalade with all the windows up with a full mask on. >> are you talking to the person in the red hat? >> did i meet mr. meadows at a trump rally in georgia, i did. >> time. >> cassidy hutchinson is a liar. he handed me an envelope. mr. meadows did not give me a single thing. >> chair recognizes -- >> your time is expired. the chair now recognizes the -- from buffalo. >> it so quiet in here. president biden's objective was to bring transparency and truth back to government. to share the truth when it is

hard to hear. that is laughable. as when hunter biden claimed he was trying to avoid wire feeds when he had a one million- dollar payment go through 16 different bank wires. if you're trying to avoid wire feeds, then why send 16 to the same account. it is a joke. his influence peddling in ukraine where he pressured the government to fire the prosecutor general who was investigating. when he was vice president in 2014, he was in a paid position. the committee has sought documents regarding his influence peddling into ukraine. the administration claims that

transparency has failed to produce these documents. i will give you an example. in september of 2015, the united states was steadfast that it was the face of corruption in ukraine. bowing to work with the general to tackle corruption in the country. that all changed after a phone call from hunter biden. a few days later, vice president biden delivered a speech to the ukrainian legislature and pressured the ukrainian president to fire the general. the oversight committee has asked the white house for drafts of his speech to the ukrainian legislature in 2015. to this date, we have not been able to review. we all want to know if there were edits to the speech after hunter called d.c. we want to know whether the vice president changed course to protect his son in the corrupt business

associates. if the biden administration business dealings affected policy towards ukraine. the white house claims to be committed to bringing truth and transparency to government. it is only interesting when it is convenient to the administration. did hunter ever tell you the value of the bereavement income to him? >> i do not recall him mentioning that to me. >> did he say that was his only income at the time? >> i stand corrected. there is a text message, i never discussed it with him. i was in monaco and he was in monaco for the board meeting and set up a meeting with me, he did not show up at that meeting. i was not too happy, he responded to a text of me asking them, what's going on. he states that he is on the back of the yacht fighting for

the only income he has, it was from the deal he was talking about. i never discussed it with him after that, that was a single exchange between him and die. >> corruption and a lack of transparency from the biden administration. when asking for simple drafts, the white house has been anything but transparent. president biden is done and will continue to do everything in his power to cover up the truth when it is hard to hear. i yield back, mr. chairman. >> is there anything that you want to respond to me? is there anything that anyone set appear that you want to take 55 seconds to respond to? >> it is tempting, my biggest thing to everyone in this room,

spend time focusing on the fact that the chinese communist party infiltrated the white house of the united states of america through the biden family, i do not take that lightly, it is not a joke, i was willing to die for this country, this is serious stuff. you should be asking how that happened, take the biden name completely out of it. how did the chinese communist party infiltrate the white house, let's start there and focus on those facts, what they did, how they did it, why they use money and private enterprises instead of military stuff, that is huge to national security. i appreciate you yielding that time to me. >> ms. presley criticized the investigation. most americans care about public corruption. the fbi has