watch the house appropriations subcommittee hearing live at 2:30 p.m. on c-span three. c-span and now are freed mobile video app or online at c-span.org. unfiltered view of government that we are funded by these television companies and more including comcast. comcast is partnering with 1000 committee centers to create wi-fi enabled so students from low income families can get the tools they need to be ready for anything. comcast support c-span as a service. giving a pharisee to democracy. >> house oversight committee continued its impeachment inquiry into president biden by hearing testimony from two of hunter biden's former they spoke about the prior interaction with the family alleged connection to russian business dealings. a former associate of rudy giuliani also testified at the

request of democrats. he was tasked by m and damaging on joe biden ahead but ahead of the 2020 election. help then present donald trump's reelection chances. was also invited to testify but did not appear at the hearing. [background noises] [background noises] [inaudible convers oversightthe command

oversight and accountability will come to order. i want to welcome everyone here this morning. without objection the chair may declare a time. without objection chairman of the ways and means committee mr. jason smith of missouri, representative matt gaetz of florida representative eric swallow of california are our weight onto the committee for the quest witnesses at today's committee hearing. today's hearing opening segments will be open to 10 minutes for the chairranking member. the chair notes points of order pertaining to the engaging of personalities against the president will not be in order for the duration of today's hearing. given this is a hearing regarding this committee's

impeachment inquiry must be allowed to speak frankly. the chair that recognizes himself for an opening statement. >> the committee on oversight we are hear from witnesses who previously provided information during our deposition interview phase regarding the biden family business practices in china ukraine, russia, and other places around the world. at the start of this congress oversight committee investigated what products or service the biden family and their justify over $24 million in payments. we reviewed e-mails bank records, text messages, suspicious activity reports at treasury, and other evidence normally compiled during an expansive investigation such as this. the oversight committees found no credible evidence of the biden's provi any work products.

the committee has identified no legitimate value or document or one single hour of work the biden's have provided their business partners. nothing. what is apparent after over a year of investigation the biden's do not work in any traditional sense of the word. they do not w or lawyers. or advisors. the biden's do not sell a product or service a set of skills. the biden's cell joe biden. that is their business. for months we have heard democrats desperately proclaiming witnesses of told this committee joe biden had no involvement his family's business dealings. but where are those witnesses today? it is tellingted one of these witnesses to today's hearing. that is because they the other testimonies would not withstand public scrutiny. have relied on these

witnesses opening statements have willfully turned a blind eye to the facts that have come out in these questioned about our record of evidence are democrats now must rely who can talk about the facts but today's witnesses who work with the biden's. president biden cannot control his adult son. he cannot control his brother his sister-in-law or his nine family members who have received money from these transactions. all president biden can do is control was known actions that it's what we are heray witnesses. because in the course of this investigation we have learned joe biden has taken action after action to further his family's plans to get rich. hengs, gets on phone calls shakes hands and

tells people to quote look after my family. he goes to dinners with foreignoligarchs on executive pay paying to send millions of dollars. he gets paid with money from chinese businessmen has some tells other business associates hope to see what he can do to help the situation. write the letters of recommendation for a bit scam a simple promises they can make foreign partners go away by engaging the u.s. government the problems can be anything. we craning corruption investigation, moving rush at money to the united states ever mining criminal prosecution access for china to energy sources for job shows up shakes a few hands in front of his son" take car my boy or something similar. in the money flows to the tune of tens of million's of dollars. over again the biden family promises joe's power, joe biden shows up billions of dollars come to the biden's pockets.

joe biden is a families closer. how could he not be? the biden's are not doing any other work for the foreign mp billions of dollars. there are only two explanations for this the first is joe biden knows exactly what he is doing and a handshake a wink and a smile as jim biden calls a plausible deniability. or joe biden is being led around by his family and has no idea who he is leading with what message she is and is trulyn elderly man with a poor memory. either joe biden is complicit or joe biden is incompetent. since becoming chairman of the news committee generate 2023 a promise investigation by family influence peddling will be based on bank records witness testimony verifiable facts. after years of democrats is this committee is to help bees every conspiracy day they could find like the russian collision

hoax under my leadership its return to real investigation. democrats want to spend a ruianx answer one question. to earn them $24 million. what did they do for the money? democrats had the same bank records as weighty of bank records d not lie. the witnesses today are here to talk about joe biden but republicans are here to talk about joe biden democrats wish to spend their time protecting prison biden they can do so. i wouldn't invited hunter biden here today to sit alongside his business associates a story. hunter biden demanded a public hearing i have given him one. maybe he will show up. he said he isn't but he loves and one thing and doing another at some point hunter biden is saying one thing and doing another begins to reflect poorly on his ability to tell the all. but just think it's not about hunter biden. is this investigation is not

about hunter biden's joe biden the legac lacey continues to tell the american people. with that failed to rank members members. >> thank you and ranking member raskin from the beginning of this investigation we have made clear will fall the follow the facts wherever they lead. the facts of have led uso;r conclusions. one the biden family has for years traded under biden's name in order to rake in millions of often doing so with his direct knowledge and clear involvement. two, president biden has been the american people about his knowledge of his family's business dealings. we have testimony from multiple witnesses joeen was the brand. he knew what his son and brother were doing and did nothing to stop it. that alone makes him complicit to make money off of his public service. he was not just complicit. it was one of today's witnesses

have testified an enabler of this activity. the evidence of the two irs whistleblowers who came to the ways and means committee has been affirmed by volumes of material provided to congress the testimony of@: and even by the department of justice to finally brought charges against hunter biden that mirrors those investigators. the evidence obtained shows one joe biden met with his sons of business partnersn multiple occasions. he used an alias to exchange and dozens of e-mails with his sons and bookkeeper.r@ook official government action suspiciously coincided with those meetings and correspondence. the connections between joe biden intices extended even to the biden 2020 campaign. at the height of the democrat primary kevin morris a hollywood met hunter biden at a joe biden campaign fundraiser paid off. tax liabilities because

was in his words a risk personally and politically. if that was not met or swept matter swept under the rug. investigators were told to stand down. the biden family relied on the biden brand is so much evidence rebuilt hunter biden believed quote all of this stuff meeting legal troubles wou all go away when his dad became president. why did he believe that? for years the biden family has personally benefited fromden's position of power. joe biden knew this. he did nothing to stop it and he lied about it. i yield to timdan chairman jordan. >> i think the gentleman. plants of the pipe bombs and generally six? nobody seeo who leaked the dobbs draft opinion? you know the leak that led to an assassination attempt on justice, part about this one who left cocaine at the white house

questioned by the administration does not have time to answer these questions they are too busy inves meetings, labeling catholic extremist retaliating its whistleblowers they're too busy putting together a sweetheart biden. a deal that got laughed out of court. the guy put together the deal the got left out of court is thehe counsel. that time for us going after president trump they have been doing it for eight years. they spied on his campaign then it was the mueller investigation lawyers 40 agents $30 million and for then it was impeachment it was rate his home then special counsel. then it was the 14th amendment. the party of democracy said we can keep the guy off the ballot is leading it in every single pole. the ranking member said even running for office. thank goodness we have a supreme court disagreed with the ranking member and the democrat.

nine -- zero. not 54, not 63, 78 not 819 -- zero dnow democrats say how dare republicans investigate joe biden. how dare the money, the business and the brand? millions of dollars as a charm and said millions of dollars in foreign entities run from different companies for what? twenty different companies for what? what it was for access to the brand the brand was joe biden. the brand that played rounds of golf attendant biden and his business partners for the brand that said that conditioned $1 billion of american tax money on the firing of the prosecutor pressuring the company hunter biden set in by the weight was getting paid ali a year. today we will learn more about that brand plausible deniability

that talk mr. wu heard about the statement, the rule say it, forget it, write it, regret it. i want to thank our witnesses for coming here today but they, like the whistleblowers to come to the ways and means committee symbol because he want people to have the truth and i yield back. >> the chart recognize the ranking member or 12 minutes for his opening segment. >> thank you very kindly. with any luck today marks the end of the perhaps the most failure the effort to find a "high crimes and misdemeanors"mp for it. in episodes of this long-running madcap series in america a

one comment nearly 20 fact witnesses could not identify a single act of wrongdoing by president biden much less a "high crimes and misdemeanors" and overwhelmingly testified biden was not involved in any of his family business adventures. two, three expert witnesses called by the majority itself who said nothing they had seen in the tens of thousands of page documents produced by the majority even remotely approach the level of a "high crimes and misdemeanors."how exactly what all of the witnesses told us that joe biden was not involved in his family members businesses repeated displays of pornographic images by the majority completely irrelevant or investigative purpose. a star witness turned out to be a chinese agent in an illegal arms a trafficker from america justice. the key piece of evidence which launched the entire zany goose chase at the 1023 form in which

the fbi duly recorded a completely fictional tip about a $5 million bribe petal by alex smirnoff by a trump appointed u.s. attorney, special for felony counts of systematically lying to the fbi and constructing a false record and now it sits in jail in california as a flight risk while the world studies his long-standing and extensive ties to russian intelligence. today, the good chairman and his a's maga detectives is finally jumped the shark. the comedy of errors comes crashing to an end as house republicans and more than a dozen biden districts begged for mercy. the committee throws a flabby hail mary passed after the super bowl is over but to date we revisit the fruitless testimony of two more fading star witnesses have failed to testify

to any presidential wrongdoing. much less evidence of high crimesnd misdemeanors. both of the majority witnesses are frustrated would be business partners of hunter biden who tried to leverage the biden n with the biden brand as they keep calling it. but they never got any business off the ground for reasons that will become painfully obvious to anyone watching the proceedings today. even hunter biden laboring at the time under serious substance abuse addiction could tell these were not the type of people who should be doing business with. so rather than presenting the biden brand they now show us today as loyal servants of trump world each of them probably represented by their very own house attorney. the first the bitterly disappointed one to be hunter business partner famously at litigious history includes unsuccessfully suing his own and dying father's charity for

nearly a million dollars. just last month suing cas atchinson for $10 million after she recorded he was wearing a ski mask met with mark meadows means backed up with actual documentary photographic evidence. allegations public on a press conference choreographed by the trump for president campaign which provided him a venue and even a dress shirt they went out and bought for him to wear to the event. hours later he joined the second 2020 presidentialersonal guest he was seated with kid rock and mark meadows. the other star witness who i believe the pairing by zoom today is a serial fraudster convicted conman a term i would

charitably not use on a witness except it was explicitly bestowed upon him by not one but two different u.s. federal court judges incluhe one who sent him to over 15 years and prison for defrauding union pension funds a native american investors. to pay restitution of over $8 million to his victims. that is a lot of money. what donald trump was sent into pay a net civil litigation. the very first record of its the biden family appeared check this out in the clemency petition to president but the key point is this. even if we were to believe every single word offered by these utterly compromised unbiased witnesses their allegations do not identify any wrongdoing.

the impeachment bus running on empty our geo preparing to save face with criminal referrals.íf crimes. doing crimes we have seen like russian asset devon archer, jason glamis. cast a piercing lights on what is really taking place here. on has reason to know. too used to be peddling lies and disinformation smear joe biden. today he joins a long line of self exiled from trump world who could no longer >> all corruption. people like cassidy hutchinson. people like michael cohen. sarah matthews,

mattis the chair of the joint chiefs ofchiefs of staff mark milley general jon kelly now vice president mike pence he refuses to endorse for president the man president the men he served with. but we do have loyal still in the room and one day i look forward to hearing their testimony about how they got sunk into this religious cult. he wrote chairman comber and me a remarkable letter on july 23 2023. this is the first time i meeting him today. he was rudy giuliani's right-hand man. his globetrotting business partner and language manufacture ukraine and burisma related dirt and smears against joe biden. 20,182,019. he spent all this time traveling around the world trying to's stage evidence against joe biden. the desperate search to find

evidence of any kind of biden was a complete and total bust. is no evidence inne that joe biden did anything improper but more darkly search for smoking gun against biden to invent and concoct evidence out of thin air with the active help of russian intelligence assets agents. i'm getting to rush you have not heard anything at mr. chairman. amanda reckoneith this own moral dissent into trump world he is ashamed to serve the interests of russian propaganda and putin's lies. he wants america to know the truth. i was to explain how the conspiracy theories and lies promoted with rudy giuliani the tires and fabrication spread by alex and now repeated by the

committee. at every turn might colleagues krait rush a hoax. even in the face of repeated warnings from donald trump's own treasury secretary and secretary of state from the intelligence community from robert mueller and most recently from special counsel weiss name to office by donabutdonald trump is a secretary stated quote russian disinformation campaigns targeting american citizens are a threat to our democracy. someone you guys usually defend my gop colleagues can krait e cult member selling flowers at the airport. our colleagues are the ones amplifying russian hoax. the one giuliani and trump and smirnoff have eagerly adoptedutin and his agents but they participate in this hoax they shamefully block $60 billion in military

assistance to president zelensky the besieged ukrainian people five years after trump and giuliani tried to shake a president zelensky down for t on joe biden. they continue to parrot these transparent russian lies, war on ukraine fueled with atrocities like the mass kidnapping of children the rape and slaughter of civilians for the maga right wholesale adoption of this russian hoax and the sellout of the ukrainian people by the maga right is a historic betrayal of democracy freedom, the rule of law but the defense of democracy begins with fidelity to theop and the oversight democrats america's troop squad against disinformation is here today to set the record straight. i yield back to you mr. chairman. clock said now like to introduce our witnesses mr. tony bobulinaki. he was a business partner of hunter biden in a joint venture

between a chinese entity he sat the committee on february 13 a business associate of the biden family. mr. parnas is an entrepreneur political activists and author. mr. jason gallant us. it was a business partner of hunter biden. he sat for transcribed on the 23rd 2012 for we asked the bureau of prisons to make them available in person today. they would only provide him for for brief virtual testimony. notably he applied for terrorist acts, home confinement and after lengthy approval process was approved for home confinement june 9 2023. day 2023 his approval was reversed as a result of the department of so he has remained at a federal

prison facility he is currently in montgomery alabama can you please estate for telse is in the room with you? >> my counsel and nicholas. >> thank you. pursuant to committee rule 9g the witnesses will please stand and raise your right hand use wear or affirm the testament you're about to give is the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth so help you god? let the wrecks all answered in the affirmative. thank you you will may be seated. we appreciate you all being here today look forward to your testimony. let me remind the witnesses we have read your written statements they will appear in full in the hearing record. please make your oral statements to five minutes as a reminder please press the button on the

microphone in front of you it is on and members can hear you. ht in front of you it will turn green after four minutes will turn yellow on the red light comes on your time has expired we would as quickly as possible. i now recognize mr. bobulinaki for his opening statement. >> should i allow hunter to give his opening statement first? >> does not appear mr. biden showed up firstshut ulic hearing will recognize you. >> think you mr. chairman. chairman ranking members and members of congress, good morning. thank you for this opportunity to speak with you truthful testimony to the american people. i sit here today under oath for one reason one reason only, the american people deserve to hear the truth. the truth involved in the deep corruption of the biden family including the malfeasance of the sitting president of the united states might be raw and the american people must hear it. you are presented here today to narratives in this investigation. the false coming pushed by joe a serial liar and fabulist

known as impeachment investigation for public corruption his brother jim biden 75 your old man who cannot k under oath and including a son son chronic drug addict facing anindictment2 count you have the truth confirmed by multiple biden family business partners over many years and backed up by mountains of irrefutable evence of link text messages, e-mails, documents recordings, i am the only biden family business partner with an impeccable military record. i am grateful this countries give me the freedom to be successful. i worked would charge you become independently wealthy. i've taken several businesses public. sold multiple businesses and some world best private equity firms affect my business success is why they sought me out. this done is repugnant to me i'm here today because i'm a patriot and i'm a truth teller. we keep hear from certain corners our democracy is at risk democracies on the about and 24 the

same people preaching no better. they continue to the american people without hesitation and remorse. both lawyers former prosecutor from new york continue to lie and go straight to the media to tell more lies. hunter biden's dense attorney weaponize as letters to congress to try to smear my name. >> mr. chairman? mr. chairman attempt to save his powerfully connected clients and his father. i challenge him to make those claims on national television so accountable for his lies. prior to my successful business career i was an as an officer in the nine states navy elite served as a chief technology officer. >> i apologize for the disruption. >> am i supposed to say it's my time? >> please come to order.

mr. bobulinaki please proceed i apologize for this disruption from the minority. >> mr. chairman save his time. he called members of this committee liars i just want to know whether the order in and the quorum requirements of house rule 11 apply to witnesses appearing before the committee. does it apply or does it? >> should i adjust? [inaudible] there is decorum for that member'smembers we've asked for that. there is no language i am aware potential witness. makee did not waste any of his time is opening statement. mr. bobulinkski i'm sorry for this disruption please continue opening statement. we'll make sur >> okay.

i want to restate. make sure the american people hear these facts. weaponize letters to congress to try to smear my name mistake the cold hard facts and attempt to save power for collected client and father. i challenge mr. lowell to make those claims on national television so he can be held accountable for his lies. prior to my suc person officer for over six years the night states navy the elite naval nuclear power training command decorated master training specialist. he lat served for the department of endocrine nsa. when i left in the entire commander i jumped into the business world in public but i've made a few contributions over the years to democrats such as a representative i do not see him but i hope he shows up today. i sits on the democratic side of the oversight committee i'm not

a political person to cover a family with a long history i including my father, both of my grandfathers and my brother who are willing to sacrifice their country my sister serves the military vets for two decades at the veterans administration we have lived our lives as a family in and service to this greatry. i hope the american people will pay close attention i also hope they will understand some members of this committee gauge in absurd attacks and efforts to try to deflect attention from the facts i will present today by questioning m integrity and my patriotic duty. you may see me speak passionately at this hearing but for good reason. not only was i1q willing to die for this country every single mail member of my immediate family was willing to die for this country. i want to be crystal clear my direct personal explains what i've subsequently come to learn it is clear to me joe biden was the brand being sold by the biden family his or her

influence peddling operation from china to ukraine and elsewhere sold out the foreign actors who are seeking to gain influence and access to joe in the nicest governor. joe biden was more than a participant in a beneficiary of his family's business he was an met with business associates such as myself to further the business despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability. i asked this big question if there isthereis no evidence of corruption here today joe's or fully legal and proper then why are they so dishonest about it? not just a slight misrepresentation of untruths about the entire corrupt enterprise. hunter biden gave transcribed interview on february 28 light throughout his testimony. here's one egregious example of hunter's perjury. he lied to the committee on important det his many demands and threats and text messages on july 30 he

leverages in the infamous text to pay hunter immediately. he also laid extensively throughout his transcribed interview on february 21 and perjured himself. an example of that on page 100 of h he is asked specifically do you recall having a meeting with hunter biden, tony bobulinaki and joe jim'sjim's response, absolutely not too. the committee was so shocked by his perjury they asked in the same question multiple times. each time he denied meeting with me and joe biden. after the committee showed text messages confirming i met with biden hunter biden and jim biden jim was a former u.s. next to him. still denied the meeting took place. hunter biden and his own transcribed interview confirmed that meeting took place. hunter confirmed his uncle

perjured himself in front of this committee. i am here to tell the truth to the american people and i hope each and every one of your congressmen and women give the opportunity to do that a russia or smearing my family's name or focusing on facts that are irrelevant today. i yield back. experimenter inquiry just two points. i believe mr. bobulinkski went ov hope to have the same privilege for cooks are markets are given equal time too. >> secondly i see we have a witness appearing remotely i thought appear in person are the rules adopted by the majority at the beginning of congress. do we have a new practice with know members on our side were denied the ability to participate in hearings that were conducted in florida mississippi, that we wanted to participate by zoom. cooks i'll answer that it requires to build testify at remotely requires a letter from

me and approval from the majority leader which we have. we'll enter that into the record. he same courtesy to members of this committee when they can get to a hearing in mississippi or florida thank you much. >> for an inquiry? >> take your point. >> mr. chairman, mr. bobulinkski referred to text messages i believe he is referring to photos. >> what is your parliamentary amentary inquiry. we have a very important hearing here we do not have time for stunts what is your parliamentary inquiry? >> i am simply asking too. >> the chair out recognizes for his time. >> the chair recognizes dizzy chairman have the text messages? >> mr. chairman twitter have time for games by democrats today. >> of important witnesses here.

>> and asking a question. >> you asked for a parliamentary inquiry. you will you tells me it is your time to speak. the chair recognizes you for equal which was seven minutes. >> thank you hello. members of c ranking member at raskin and members of the oversight committee. i am humbled and thankful before you today. i came to the united states from up ukraine in 1976 it was still the former soviet union. my mother, father, sister had left the soviet union escaping anti-semitism and persecution. whilst inwhile in rome in route to his or my sister and i had the most important opportunities we've ever been given. we went u.s. green card lottery. i family came here with literally no more than shorts on our backs in the hopes of rebuilding our lives in the land of i say this to you because i love this country. shortly after my arrest on october 9, 2019 until i've

been trying to share the irrefutable truth with you. american people have been lied to by donald trump rudy various cohorts of individuals and in government, media positions. they create falsehoods to serve their own interest with undermined the strength ofur nation. from november 2019 until october 2019 as a key participant and a witness to numerous efforts t prove joe and hunter biden who were linked to corruption in ukraine. rudy giuliani present donald trump task with mission to travel the globe fighting dirt on the biden's they could spread misinformation about them. ironically when i was arrested my original like me too an individual the unindicted co-conspirator one. we know this individual to be congress repeat sessions are sits on this very committee today. today i ask you to consider the following break nearly a year traveling the world in different countries i found precisely zero

evidence of the the biting corruption in ukraine. of of activity. not thethe fbi cia or nsa. no respectable ukraine officials ever said the biden sit anything said anything illegal including former president bush and go and former prosecutor was offered a deal by rudy giuliani in exchange for information on the biden's he none because there is none. only information push on the biden ukraine has come from one source and one source only. russia and russian agents. the proceedings that bring us here predicated on false information spread by the kremlin. everyone involved knew they were sharing lies. from trump and giuliani shattered diplomacy commission's ukraine and elsewhere to members of a team a group convened for the sole purpose of investigating and damaging the

biden's. everything was for the ultimate benefit of donald trump and thereby vladimir putin. because teams investigations were centered around biden ukraine i was just a point person in every matter they pursue. that is how i know with certainty these biden stories are untrue then and are untrue now. congress and pete sessions and devon, senator ron johnson at many other thirds under said they're pushing a false narrative. the same goes for sean hannity and media personnel particularly at fox news who use this narrative to meet up like the public ahead of the 2020 election. sadly they are still d we approach the 2024 elections. we cannot separate the conspiracy from the russian ukraine or no intention to keep aiding ukraine. without the support of the united states and nato, millions in ukraine will suffer and" l reach american

shores. today, i admit my own wrongdoings. on surface engines. we don't hide that from reality because as part of my ii will be sounds no longer i thank you to the i looked forward to answer your question for. >> correct ranking members biden and among others during the years 2015. the one half billion dollar division our objective was to private equity platform be anchored by globally bran together with a political name.

our goal hunter biden devon archer and me was to make the entire with his family name vice president joeiden. in 2014 we believe the enterprise submitted had pa management 300 early in and dollar chinese financial service company connected to the chinese communist party. hunter. this fellowship because game changing of the family. he was a member of the team. the. [inaudible] august 23 cap 2014 that reflects this understanding. and i quote. miael, please better conversation for certain relation of mind.t that relation earlier

this week. we discussed this very idea. and as always he remained very, very keenn t opportunity. a certain relation of mine had this conversation shortly after it happens. ultimately hunter had a jump rule of thumb say it, forget it, write it, regret it. hunter biden and devon archer what hunter took a call from his father and told him things were going well and they might need a little help getting across the finish line. it is not the only hunter called his father may 4 2014 put them on speaker mode to say hello to

a russian oligarch and investor. and not all w also there. i am here with our friends i told him you were coming to town we wanted to say hello. said hello and hope you have safe travels and ed was okay. hunter responded by saying everything is good. something about being helpful his father later. before this call on day one i heard him speaking of business matters is generally. a few days after this and e-mail provided the committee showed it devon had confirmed was committe to a million dollars in banking. [inaudible] in the financial platform i engage companies interested but

$11 million of money whose trust. eight year. [inaudible] i'm sorry for committing these crimes. i deserve what i received. nevertheless my full statement i believe it did not on the same deals for political reasons. we are involved in decision making and all of us had financially benefited from these and in fact biden and received $50 million to be invested in the group. all of this information hunter biden times but they are not interested. and i felt the d.o.j. december december 2022.

the d.o.j. has retaliate against me for the cares act. [inaudible] on february 4, 2023ve june 9 june 12 a subpoena for devon archer reversed my approval responding objective. this was personal. [inaudible] during this period generate 2023 he persisted in sexually harassing me many months after. which removing from danger. not being able to prevent the attack. the bureau of prisons on these matters leaving disclosure would have made things worse fore.

unfortunately it contained until early august when where the officers caught and became morethreatening. i feared for my safety and sock to seat seek counseling on 1020, with events and asked quickly opened antigation. the elimination to act. i was immediately to a vehicle and driven by staff hours to montgomery to a separate facility. i am grateful investigation into these matters and i appreciate center jordan and subcommittee chairman. i believe retribution i believe i'm putting myself at great risk for providing information onnd his son. i've been treated professionally at montgomery. i want to thank to help

facilitate. [inaudible] mr. galanis i want to thank all the witnesses again for being here today. we will now begin the question. i wan remind members on both sides of the aisle each member has a five minutes. i'm going to adhere to that and hit the gavel of the question has been asked we will allow the witnesses time to respond. but we are going to try to get in a lot of questions from a lot of members. and i will begin the questioning followed by ranking member raskin. you for your service. your military service i appreciate being here. during the 118 congresses one or 18 congress' committees and messenger's involvement in influence peddling schemes around the world. so let's start with that. mr. bobulinkski was joe biden involved with any of your business deali biden?

>> asked was he involved in his family's attempt to sell their access to him? you sent out a form -- to form a legitimate business with thed you come to find out that the biden family had no interest in doing real business? what i did.nis are you aware of any time hunter biden using joe biden with joe biden's knowledge to benefit their business associates? >> yes. >> which business associates? >> the russian oligarch russian chinese the chinese manager henry. [inaudible] and nikolai from ukrainian oligarch. >> that we have established joe biden was involved in his family business dealings productive turn to financial records we

have subpoenaed. one major point democrat colleagues downplay is how much money the biden's accumulated from form business features in such a short period of time. weon a biden family and their business associates from 2014, will joe biden was vice president to mr. bobulinkski there is a time or attempting to raise $10 million in the chinese to pursue an actual business deal a real deal. it would not be correct to say this was a 10 million-dollar deal would it? what did the bidens conceive of business with the chinese becoming? committing to deploying a billions of dollars in infrastructure projects here in the united states as well as around the world.

are you aware joe biden met with rob walker and devon archer >> i'm generally aware of it. >> as you discussed earlier the russian oligarch, you were present for hunter his vice president father with the russian oligarch was present correct? >> yes he was. >> you also were present for his father about a board seat on a chinese board is that correct? [inaudible] >> so mr. galanis isn't true joe biden said he did not interact with his family's b

associates that is untrue, is it? >> i believe [inaudible] >> out to touch on the fact the absence in the middle part hunter biden has chosen i've given mr. biden exactly what he asked for. it is clear hunter biden knows his testimony w withstand public scrutiny. joe biden has not been truthful about schemes to sell access and influence. today's witnesses will people side of the story that the president and his allies on the site of the aisle are eager to hide. mr. bobulinkski can you tell us about your meeting at the beverly hilton with mr. biden kuester. >> the short version of the long version questio >> long version within a minute. [laughter] >> hunter biden jim biden and joe biden were in los angelesf business discussions for joe was there to speak at the conference in may of 2017.

i had lunch with hunterand he had asked to meet with his father that night. he set up a meeting at the beverly hilton where they hold the cfere there early and sat with jim biden hunter biden we're just talk about what were doing with the chinese illegal documents i was working through. they had coached me before joe showed up say listen were going to keep things go into a lot of details in this meeting and i remember because was odd joe was not in the white house then. they were framing it that way. joe showed up, walked to thep to shake his hand we sat down spent 45 minutes within our going through my >> you most in that long kuester. >> yes yes this was not a handshake to second is 45 minute long meeting to an hour we talked about a lot of stuff.

>> and chair recognizes mr. rankin for his questions. >> are going to mr. garcia to begin too. >> thank you very much for the e has provided zero evidence zero evidence of any link hunter biden and the president once again back to hearing any wrong doing by the president. it's my time sir. mr. bobulinkski want to go back to the private deposition that i had to i was one of a handful of democrats and that the record under oath conversation we had. during that deposition i asked you a question of which you gave a false answer to know what toed you specifically who got you into the presidential debate that was attended by you and others. and a huge moment in that campaign and you could not recall. youyou said quote i do notrecall who got me into the

debate. you member who is telling me that? what's your playing semantics to asked me as if someone call me ticket. >> or let me i want to reclaim my time so i'm going to reclaim my time. let's as\ed me a question for. >> i'm reclaiming my time thank you sir. who got you into the presidential debate? i do not recall who got me into the debate you do not remember who got you into the debate between president biden joe not a true statement. you quoted i don't recall who got me into the debate it's the transcript too. >> you did not ask that question. >> i will reclaim my time i'm not asking question right now thank you very much sir. here as was shown by ranking member raskin we know you were in the debate sitting adjacent and next to trump officials. when we were confronted again on this same question mr. mr. bobulinkski if you are a guest of mr. trump's at the debate you responded and you

quoted once the wall street journal called you out is the wall street journal god or something you act as if its encyclopedia of facts. he refused to guest of donald trump are going to ask you one more time are you a guest of donald trump at the presidential debate? >> mr. garcia those are all the questions you asked me my erview. >> answer the questions question sir you a guest? of donald trump at the debate. it's obvious to everyone in the world. you are asking semantics because you are guest? you answeranswer the question at the time you said i don't recall who got into the debates are just to be clear i want to keep going.

i do very clearly. >> do you know who jason is? >> i do know of him. >> a trump campaign staffer? >> mr. garcia, you keep asking semantical questions had three lawyers around me coordinated my travel, where i was going. >> i will it's interesting you show up to

a pre- debate press conference and presidential debate by the pers running for the presidency of the united states yet you have no idea how you got to the press conference or remember how to the debate and here you are speaking at a press conference on which the national media -- so how did you bet get to conference? >> i flew on a plane. >> who invited you to the press conference? >> my lawyers told me i was to come to tennessee. at that point i was trying to get the truth infects out to the american people. at that moment in time if i eating million people watched the debate and that was probably -- >> i reclaim my time. i think it is clear for someone who can't remember how he got to be trump press conference or debate, you are in on credible witness. thank you and i yield back. >> the chair recognizes the chairman of the house ways and means committee jason smith for five minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. we've previouslyo

irs whistleblowers that joe biden was the brand being sold by family members. one such be seen in a june 6th, 2017 whatsapp message where hunter biden told a business associate that he was not willing to, quote, sign over my families brand, unquote. or give them the keys to my family is only asset. can you confirm that president biden is the brand being sold by his family members? >> [inaudible] >> thank you. during his deposition, hunter bide repeatedly tedtifi not involved in his business in any capacity and that there wasn't even a connection b father and businesses. here is just one example. quote, i stayed for the record one more time under oath and under penalty father has never been involved in my business. i have never asked my father to be involved in my business.

my father has never benefited from my business, and i've never asked anyone or my father to do anything for the benefit of anyone i've ever done business for unquote. yes them ways and means committee released a message provided by the irs whistleblowers showing that hunter biden wrote on my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. i'm sitting here waiting for the call with my father. moreover you testified that hunter was not shy to get his father on the phone. devon archer testified that there were multiple instances in which hunter placed his dad on speakerphone. was hunter biden telling the truth when he testified under oath that his father was involved in any of his business

dealings? >> no he's not those are blatant lies. >> we continue to hear claims that not involved in his family his business dealings and that he did not benefit from illicit business deals. however, irs special agent joe zigler provided documents to the ways and means committee 327 e-mails, many of which involved hunter biden and hunter biden's business do you have any personal experience that leads you to believe that joe biden was involved with hunter business associates and business dealings? >> yes, i do. >> you want to say a few? >> to outline how joe was invoked? >> yes. >> different congressmen and women keep trying to say that there is no evidence and use the word "involved." if joe biden was not involved in

his son's business dealings, why after flying all the way across the country to the conference, where there is next to davo's the biggest conference in the world, why would he take 45 minutes out of his night flex it wasn't a 10 a.m. meeting. it was 10:40 in the evening. he's an elderly man. flew across e couny with me 45 minutes to an hour to discuss my background the business we are doing with the chinese, his family background. >> speaking of the business with the chinese in october 2020, joe biden asserted that his family hadn't earned money rough business dealings in china however whistleblowers shared evidence that the biden family made at least 1.1 million from their business with china including $100,000 in payments from cfc, china energy and a one million-do services that were never provided to an official. do you know the biden

family made any money from china? >> they did. millions of dollars i think approximately eight to 9 million. >> t biden family has made millions from china correct? you said at least 9 million? >> i think it is over 10 million and i will leave the details up to you guys. >> the gentleman yields back and recognizes the ranking member. mr. chairman for being here today. your involvement with the real russian hoax about joe biden began in 2018 when as a big donor and supporter donald trump's you rudy giuliani and began working to dig up dirt on joe biden in ukraine. if you could tell us how quickly you got >> yes i was a donor at the time. i began doing business with giuliani he got involved in the business and the minute we started spending time together until november of 2018, he

approached me andut my connections. after telling him about people, add to that point he wanted me to go to ukraine to find the prosecutor general. >> and basically he wanted to go from his fraud guaranteed to guaranteeing of fraud on the american people. but after turning over every stone and going after every rabbit hole including interviewing victor, did you ever find the smoking gun or any evidence that donald trump was looking for paste on j >> on the contrary, representative. not only do we keep hitting that wall and not finding the smoking gun but we kept running it to sources of information coming out of russia. >> in fact joe biden was part of a global campaign including by united states to oppose corruption and go after the corrupt forces in ukraine is that right? >> yes sir. dig up

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level. you observed back in 2023 and a letter you sent to the chairman that there were examples of giuliani interfering in ukrainian politics. why would a giuliani the interfering in another countries politics? >> humor to do whatever he needed for the purpose of getting the information he wanted to secure donald trump for the 2020 election, so a prime example of one of the things he did he h a close relationship with vladimir who was then the mayor in ukraine when the new president came over there was rumors about staying in office in ukraine. they met with rudy giuliani and then on a meeting that we hadas relevant and had

to do with announcing an investigation into joann hunter biden at that meeting he also brought up the basically told that president trump and of the american people would be ver love him and he needs to be in their. >> so was he just doing this on his own because he was a patriotic ameridonald trump or how to somebody encouraged him to engage in this interference in another country? donald trump. >> personally? that's your testimony? thank you. in your letter said that mr. giuliani was quote to deliver a precise mes strict words. with respect to the administration what did you understand a very strict message or very strict words construed

and what was that message that you delivered thought was in very strict words? >> yes congressman. he told me not to be nice, to be very stern and we had a message that unless he had an this was on sunday, there would be no cooperation or aid andhe vice president that was scheduled to appear for the inauguration would not appear to the inauguration. >> that would seem to corroborate that very famous and beautiful telephone conversation between president trump and zelenskyy basically saying that i ne a favor and hinting the withholding of military aid until the favor was delivered. is that fair? >> absolutely. i was part of setting up that phone. your testimony is important and under oath.

thank you and i yield back.rgia for five minutes about his role in his families businesses. in 2020 he stood up on stage of a presidential debate and told the american people that his family didn't take any money from china. that was a lie. not only was it a lie he knew it was a lie. he knew it becau with his friend hunter biden chinese business associates. i want to talk about cfc which fund committee. who is chairman he? >> the chairman. >> gym biden told the fbi and irs that he was the protége and the chinese communist party. rob walker told the committee joe biden met you aware of that yes

or no? >> i am now. i wasn't at the time. >> joe biden also met with you is that right? >> yes twice. >> who was the director? >> the number two at cfc. >> the executive director? >> the number two executive butt person i worked with and the biden family worked with and the individual hunter biden was shaking down at the end of july, 2017 demanding that they fund thehunter biden's account. >> thank you. i want to show you a text message that hunter biden sent to you and his other businessing it right here. i have an idea in light of the fact we are at an impasse of sorts most employer and my chairman gave an emphatic no i think we should all meet in romania.

he is speaking about my when hunter biden came in for his deposition, he said he was referring to the chairman and that the rest of the group referred to him as a different chairman. does this make any sense to you? >> that is a lie. i never heard in your reference and i directed communications with the director over we chat, met him in romania met him in moscow around the world trying to develop this business and he was never referred to as the chairman. first of all. the second of all that makes absolutely no sense of the message because we are discussing the holdings. >> so he wasn't the chairman, just to clarify. i want to show you another text when he said his chairman, this is from wall rob walker. he said this to you when hunter was talking about his chairman,

he was talking about his dad. when rob walker came into give the transcribed interview to thecommittee, he basically said while hunter was high or confused or mad and he said he was just tryings down between you and hunter but that doesn't answer the question about who he's talking about. hunter biden lied to the committee. he says he's talking about his dad. i want to be clear we have established th the chairman obviously is that correct? >> correct. let me show you another message. this message doesn't call him the chairman, does it? it says the chinese want to do business with of the biden's as a matter of factbe my partner to be partners with the bidens, he h one has made it clear and available. who is the number one? the numbethe president of

china, yes or no. of the leaderthe leader of the communist party, the ccp is the number one? >> that is the number one hunter was referencing in that message. >> let's be ver clear this was in 2017, but i would like to make it known for the committee joe biden told the press in 2016 as a matter of fact, i quote yes, i am, i'm going to run in 2020. he was running for president of the united states in 2020. so here is the bidens doing business in china when everybody knows he was planning to be president of the united states. do you see tha to be a serious problem? >> i wish the committee would thoroughly investigate it and talk about the evidence that

they have on cfc. they have fisa warrants so they were including and i wish they would disclose that to the committee. >> thank i yield. >> the chair recognizes mr. krishnamurthy. >> rudy giuliani tasked you with a mission to travel the globe to find dirt to damage the biden's reputation and the 2018 timeframe. this was on the effort to secure trumps. evidence of wrongdoing or criminality? in your travels you found criminality, right? is it true you've looked for dirt around the world in the same way joe biden in particular all failed the evidence of criminal wrongdoing? not only that but the former

ukrainian president stated there's not a single word of truth to the allegations about joe biden >> yes. >> now there is a guy that's the former prosecutor general of ukraine and he also confirmed that nothing ties the bidens to criminal activity in ukraine right? >> correct. >> and there's another prosecutor general who also said he had no evidence that either joe or hunter bidenred with ukrainian law and the reason you know this is because you talked to each of these people. and it your jobr job was to try to dig up dirt and manufacture but we've conducted months ofhere's no evidence of wrongdoing, you called this whole inquiry a wild goose chase. interestingly, we've heard from

the other side of that the real quid pro quo wasn't donald trump. it was joe biden when he tried to hold up foreign aid when he was vice president in exchange for firing the prosecutor in ñx ukraine that was investigated and the corruption from his son. now again you looked for evidence to support this claim. there is no evidence, correct? >> firing the prosecutor would make it more likely that theywould go after the company in question not less, right? >> the reason why the administration wanted to get rid of him is because he was corrupt, not because he was investigating but he was stalling investigation looking into a $23 million they wanted to get out from and theythat investigation. >> the logic is just the opposite of what the majority claims to be the case.

namely that they say that was held to fire the prosecutor to reduce the chances of a prosecution. butc firing the prosecutor he increased the chances of prosecuting right? >> talk about what some of the other witnesses in this inquiry have said. the constitutional expert, the republicans brought forth said there's no evidence of which he was aware to support impeaching the president. you agree with that? >> 100%. a colleague of ours seen anything that is impeachable no i haven't. do you agree with that statement as well? our republican c who is about to retire said that evidence of wrongdoing by president biden quote doesn't existow and it didn't then. >> that's true. >> how many times have you met donald trump? >> well over ten times. i'd have to count, but lots of

times. >> is there anything you would like to relate about the conversations with donald trump that would bear on the conduct of these proceedings? >> donald trump was aware of everything going on that day in we were white house, after rudy bringing donald trump up to speed and then trump approached me, said thank you for all you're doing, keep up the good work, patted me on the was off to bring him back here to meet with lindsay graham. much. i yield back. >> mr. cloud from texas for five minutes. >> thank you chairman. after time he had no knowledge whatsoever about the business dealings and the change. he never allegedly had any conversation with hunter and they moved the ball to say he didn't have any business dealings. in the financial contributions since

then we've uncovered about 20 show companies and have bank records that bring light to that and all 20 in five minutes i want to focus on one and that ismont it is interesting devon archer testified his testimony that this was used as a common entity on the handshake deal between devon and hunter splitting the chairs. that was your word. do you stand by those words? and devon archer, he said hunter was a corporate secretary and had a handshake to get the ownership deal is that correct? >> primarily the company was set up to initially place to hold equity on the harvest is that

correct? it included money paid from> if this were illegally and illegal and there's no propriety it's concerning because it is setp to compete against america's energy interest at the behest of the ccp. then we others from and we know about the salary providing actual function. we had 1 million going through rosemont to hunter biden and

there's the $300 at the end of the 142,000 that goes into this and then the next day went to a porsche dealership for a car for hunter biden. what's interesting about all of this of course is that each of these not only fluid money through the companies to hunter biden but each of them also involved important meetings with of president biden. so we had coffee with jonathan who was one of the members who harvest and was connected with the ccp. they were having trouble getting licensed to work because of course they had to give permission to that. until hunter flew over with his own air force with vice president joe biden at the they met with jonathan lee hunter introduced them. joe ended up writing a letter of

recommendation to jonathan lee's daughter t college and then we see that this relationship continues. of course in ukraine we know that april 16, 2015, joe biden had dinner with the officials at café milano, seemed to be a popular spot because joe biden also had dinner. all inflow to of course as pointed out several times this all comes down to eventually thene big guy who gets 10% to the big guy. we know this goes through to get to hunter and 10% went to the big guy. ..

congressman outlined the big guy is clearly joe biden. the details of some of those transaction is not involved in. that is excluding how they operated. t answered. and mr. galanis use of the begetting hunter did not provide any propriety asset value or anything of the sort. his entire value was the brand is that correct? how did you state that? >> we did rely on him for any product other than delivering the biden. >> of a question for you mr. galanis. did you offer to provide on hunter biden and devon archer back in 2006 into prosecutors and the sec and what happened there? specifically on that. and also the same thing to the exchange commission.

were told to quash that interest. i understood that to be in order to determine i yield back. >> expired. recognize mr. goldman for five minutes. >> thank you i only have five minutes mr. bobulinkski i'm going to try to move quickly i would appreciate if you answer the you testified joe biden was involved in your business venture and hunter biden.he crux of what your testimony is. the suit business venture you are referring to correct?hat? >> any business to do you do with the biden's. >> might reference are the holdings llc owned 50% of that. >> rachel. but nota knight holding was a 50% that was on the american side of that

deal right? >> 50% the biden side of it. he's not an american. >> click sorry fair enough. it was a joint partnership memorialized incorporating document correct and equal shares divided among five partners is that right? about what that what you are holding up? >> where there equal 20% shares among five partners?he final sign a document is that what you're asking? >> yes very. >> it is not complicated. >> yoare filibustering now. you are filibustering i get it. there were five partners hunter biden, jim bidenmes gilley art and you. each own 20%. >> they did not each of the llc owned it. ther because you see joe biden llc related to joe biden on this? >> i don't know if joe biden owned jim biden llc or hunterfc

biden llc i will leave that up to the committee. >> do you know when this agreement was entered into? >> the posterboard legal document that was signed? what's the agreement sir. >> the agreement was signed may 22 2017. who is the vice president then? >> may 22 you said? i think it was mike pence. >> was the president? >> donald trump a. >> when did you first meet hunter biden? >> it first met hunter biden ea 2017. >> when? one and 2017? >> the day or month? >> the month is good too. >> i believe i briefly met him in new york. the first meeting i had had extensive time with him was early may 2017 brickwork cells from the same time you have the two meetings with the joe biden right? what's prior to that. >> you have said insert comments or can i please reclaim my time

sir as i said we have to move quickly here. unfortunately in your testimony earlier today what if my one of my colleagues asked you about that meeting at the bar at 45 minutes, 60 minutes you were also asked about that in your transcribed interview. and neither of your answers did you mention any discussion that you had at that meeting with joe biden about the chinese business venture. yet in grandiose terms here today you have declared joe biden was involved. and you have the mountains of irrefutable evidence to support so let's look at the mountains of irrefutable evidence. you provide the committee with a screenshot of a text message that is between james gilley art and you dated may 11, 2017. i don't know if you can see it is just you and james right? you remember this text message i am sure products generally yes. >> in it he writes let's get the company set up till families the high stakes

and get joe involved. two days later he s e-mail and hunter biden in which she suggested a division of the company and included a proposal "10% held by h for the big guy? you remember that, right? >> the infamous e-mail with the do. >> it in them and respond to that e-mail? >> yes they did numerous times. you're right. did respond to it. >> you're going to filibustering to replay my time it's running the big guy reference checks thank you for making my point they did not have to respond. they all they do the big guys peroxide reclaim my time please controlled the witness. i would like to get a little extra time mr. chairman i want to read what mr. saidwall street journal. i'd like to clear up any speculation for former vice president was involved with the ial business structure.

i'm unaware of any involvement at any time of the former vice president for the activity in question never delivered project revenue you should print what joe biden biden. [inaudible] peri the chairman's time is expired. recognize mr. higgins thank you e today we appreciate the candor of your response which is reflective of the way you handlers private testimony and deposition thank you truthful to the american people today. i am going to ask about the china energy fund committee. are you familiar with that, sir? >> site m. >> is assigned multibillion dollar company like a fortune 500 company at one time?

what is even bigger than go back and look at its financials in 2016 and 17 as one of the five largest private companies in china. >> exactly. so this was a major a major operation. a lot of money apparently i'm going to hold up a memo here here. this is a chart from the sink and -- second bank memo. it shows the disbursement of almost $24 million formonds. you have a major chinese company a lot of company on diamonds and apparently diamonds were used as a means of payment for the biden. we know the biden's having to diamonds. we suspect there are many, many

more $23 million worth of diamonds. are you familiar with the exchange of valuable assets pay the biden's other than electronic transfers of money? are you aware of payments in diamonds? payments in cash? payments in board memberships et cetera? >> in my generally aware of i read it jim biden and hunter biden's transcript multiple times. jim biden and the transcript references to biden or to diamonds given to hunter biden. when he implies was in 2015 by an individual who he could not individual's name is scott o who is a surrogate for cfc and apparently a second diamond at a meeting in miami. i really want to set the clock record clear i was not at that physical meeting. i was in miami but i was not at

hysical meeting breed that but that is what i told the fbi in my interview projects are you aware mr. bobulinkski pattern of a bribery of a bribe payments coming from the china energy fund committee? >> i appreciate that question wish everyone on this committee would read testimony. an eight day trial on the actual trial trial was going on that accused numerous executives of corruption bribing. >> exactly brickwork soup political figures of africa. >> so exactly. so mr. bobulinkski for your perch within the biden family operatiot and their interactions with the major businesses in china they exchange millions of dollars are tracked through bank records through suspicious activity reports a. two females toom committee has documented.

there is no debate. millions and millions of dollars accounts. the existence of other forms of payment is fascinating. because diamonds are untraceable. we do not know how many diamonds the biden's received. >> we don't have for some it is0 plus time, hong kong. hundreds of people working one point i never got a dime. i got never got a dime. i shift quickly at gentleman named it's only when you are face to face as a response saying they should be paranoid about things. and then there is a response saying for real.

so what is mentioned by don't mention joe being involved for itsprettily when you're face-to-face. i know that they are paranoid pick brexit up of biden's operate not specifically the cfc you have galanis testifying and numerous other witnesses i'm getting a tremendoust outline these for the create layers of obstruction that's the reason robert walker was getting sent and millions of in millions of biden. those hunter directly. in plausible deniability. race mr. norton from d.c. for five minutes. thank you for peering voluntarilyappearingvoluntarily for this hearing from alabama. i understand you are currently 189 month sentence in

federal prison almost 16 years after being convicted of not one but two.one not to, two but three schemes. victims of your schemes as the judge who presided of your criminal prosecution included in here i quote one of the poorest native american in the country. as well as pension funds held for transit workers workers and the city employees. hard working people every day people among others. the court also noted you personally benefited from these schemes and again i quote using over $8 million. almost 9 million for lavish

pers jewelry expenses so sign your own encounter with exchange commission charge you in 2005 with accounting fraud in connection with your investments, your involvement rather with the penthouse magazine. and in 2010 you were convicted of attempted tax evasion were sentenced to five years probation in order to pay nearly $10 million in restitution. noted you are and i quote an extremely extremely extremely gifted in his interpersonal skills uncommonly so. he is very persuasive.

those were the tools in his tool bag. ensnared his intelligence comes interpersonal skills his charm if you will. this comment referred to as con artists. another judge who presided of case referred to you as your republican colleagues are relying on to carry their water in this sham impeachment after the last star witness the infamous fbi form 1023. this time he put an end thank

you very much for more than a year now leave here innuendo, propaganda no facts no evidence but severtnesses who came together their witnesses agreed with that. nothing remotely approached the level o proof needed to support a finding of high crimes and misdemeanors. we come back again today the majority is to witnesses. the designated conman to charm determined by two different courts. someone who deployst exploiting native american indian tribes

mr. bobulinkski a lot of rhetoric and hot air but no facts of high crimes and misdemeanors impeachable offenses against the republic. the kinds of offenses james are great attacks on the republican celt great affronts to our republican form of government. andell us what is the impeachable high crime and "high crimes and misdemeanors" which suggests they are moving in the direction of criminal referrals and start byooking at their own witnesses arch get back to you. >> i like to remind the witness was partner with biden. that is why he is here. we have their partners they could have invited partners but you invited this guy per. >> donald trump's partner. mr. parnas per. >> a chair recognizes per. >> in a variety things like to go through. but first mr. lynch compare

complaint about testifying from prison so i would likimous consent to enter into the record department of justice own press release announcing the sentencing of democrats that led parnas to prison. >> the objection. thank mr. chairman we had originally hoped we'd see if you want witnesses here today. they areot hike to run a brief dictate because i showed up today hoping i'll be asking these witnesses a little bit more about this tap i know there is some mystery or some people feel it is still ambiguous as to how this prosecutor was fired in ukraine and at thi bit more to shed light on why the prosecutor was fired and why we want hunter biden and mr. archer? >> got ukraine. i remembe our team that we should be

providing time and i was supposed to announce there's not a billion-dollar loan guaranteed. the commitment that they would take action against a statethe state prosecutor and they didn't. they said were not going to give the billion dollars. the president said i said. i'm telling you you're not getting a billion dollars. the prosecutors not fired and he got fired. and put in place someone. >> i just wanted to put that up there. i do eventually want further efforts made to get hunter biden mr. archer we have joe biden

himself bragging they got rid of a prosecutor who would have provided his son's business dealings. with more observation. i'll put it that way. now mr. b interviews with this committee you said joe biden not only knew about the family business dealings but enabled them and participated with them. you went so far as to say it's clear to me joe biden was the brand sold by the biden family. could youborate why he felt that way? >> corrected. that's where the challenging things i've had to deal with over the last four years with the focus of simply telling the . around these facts are just beyond insane. i'll use a meeting at the four seasons hotel in washington d.c. i was not at but apparently eight -- 10 chinese executives were at with the chairman and director.

interacted with extensively. and james was in that room. rob walker, hunter biden my understanding based on rob walker's testimony is joe biden walked into that room. sat down, shook hands of people spent five or 10 minutes talking about his family i guess. i was not in the room. joe biden was walking in there to ask about the weather. robert walker said the chinese did not even know joe biden was a former vice president of the united states which is beyond absurd. the power at those 10 chinese individuals had to go back to mainland china and say they w biden is the value of what they were giving. to give plausible deniability. >> i would j the different text messages and communications they call him the big guy. i was not involved or mr. archer

they're giving numerous data points they did not use his name you weren't supposed to talk about it. >> you personally met with the vice president. >> i did twice. did he say anything him to help us on that sort of thing? >> he thanked me for helping a son and his brother and asked me too keep an eye on them as i speech on the second meeting. >> i just went to follow up this may be a big question but i'd like to know but one of the things that disturbs me about that is the interaction with the chinese or that's were dealing with today that obviously other countries asl. that apparently in their own mind the way you deal with the united states is the way you deal with a corrupt city council or something. you give them money and you get what you want too. do.do you want to comment on that or hear the stories about that? do you hear stories they were surprised at easy it was to buy the u.s. government?

>> answer the question please feel free to answer the question. >> there is tremendous evidence believe they are bribing the biden family and they were doing at the hunteren >> those kind of shameful thank you. >> very good. the chair recognizes for five minutes. >> think it mr. chairman. can you tell me about your meetings why you believe the trump campaign uses services? >> yes. i was sent to meet with demetri he had a resources he is in oligarch in the end vienna waiting to be x-rayed to the extradited to the united states he was very close with a vladimir putin lots of characters not part of the world. my objective was to have him help us lean on them and get

dirt on the biden's per. >> what type of dirt were you trying to get? >> was searching for hunter's hard drive we were told was out there. we were searching for bank records to validate certain bank records that were given to meet me hunter's personal bankords. i was given to me he said he got from the fbi. to validate certain payments going for car purchases. that objective was to try to find a link from any of the payments that were going to joe biden's account dirt? cooks who told me, rudy giuliani progress anyone elseperfects anyone else that she remember?>> jon i meet everybody this part of the team for. >> to bill barton know you were involved in getting this dirt? absolutely. bill barr w of our investigation for the day took office but. >> did you have a conversation with a built bar being lenient towards demetri in his as attorneyattorney general?

they personally did not i was a witness to victoria and joe having a conversation with bill barr. >> what did they say? >> basically they were telling him the chargers were false and he is to drop the charges and end the case for. >> where they tell him to drop the charges on the russian oligarch? >> because demetting dirt on the bidens or whatever else the trump campaign needed for. >> my understanding issue of the trump campaign telling you to talk to rus to get dirt for political reasons. someone from the trump campaign was talking to drop the charges. because the foreign nationals helping to get dirt on the potable candidate. in the indicate willingness they came back and what you know if if

bill barr told her to say that? >> any evidence of bill barr would have indicated to signal to demetri the charges to be dropped? >> only from conversations or rudy giuliani. >> what did they say about what bill barr said? works he basically told me this to be taken care of as long as they played ball that's the message they relayed to me. >> they said bill barr was conveying that to them directly? >> yes after meetings there are several meetings there is a private bumped into bill barr at the trump international hotel he is that is a moment to take him aside and speak to them. there are certain official meetings through official channels where victoria met with them. so it yes. >> you know if anything was done with the charges? >> to this day demetri's not here. >> do you believe bill barr should be investigated for his conduct and potentially dropping

these charges? >> like absolute believe that. not only that i believe bill barr should investigate into the cover up and trying to silence me too get the truth on ukraine for. >> explain the cover up what you believe should be investigated with you last minute? >> my arrest was setpy to shut me up to seal my documents, take away my information and turn me into a crazy man that i have no way to prove what's going on. bill barth was trying to save donald trump from impeachment and use me as a scapegoat. when he did not utilizes realize his is donald trumphisdonald trump was not going to stop and continue doing what he want to do. that's why blew up and bill barr's face. he hired special counsel at the time to look into ukraine be tried to reach out my attorney to special counsel brady he never returned her phone calls. nobody wanted to hear anything i had to say that had to do with ukraine. >> legitimate yield quester. >> thank you. i just want to say not hear bombast rhetoric but you are telling a true story you conducted yourself with great purpose and great dignity.

i know your son is here with you today happy and the rest of your family are proud of what you're doing for america you'll backbite. >> thank you. gerrit recognizes ms. o'donnell's in florida for five minutes per. >> thank you chairman. it is been an interesting hearing so far us get to the actual paper trail of money flow from cfc into the bank account for president joe biden. i want to start they texted minutes is july 31 between hunter biden and one mr. is our part really quick who is mr. tsao? >> congressman i'd like to spend 20 seconds. if you noticed congressman straight out of your very quickly. m here he did not address me based on the fact i'm sitting here in front of the world trying to testify to the truth.r produce on the democrats and the republicans sent to me saying you have always demonstrated to me you are nothing but it on us with

the highest integrity individual i was begging for him to go on cnn and tell the world october 2020 i have extensive e-mails with congressman in 2021 and 2022 where i begged him and his staff to sit down with me and look at my blackberry phones the democrats are so focused on to higher forensics experts and go through all of the f information that i had. the fact he did not address me and it scurried out of here is disgusting to me. >> alright mr. donald i'll answer your question now. >> were going have to come off that now or three minutes 30 seconds. mr. chairman for the record i went to submit into the record message one july 31 between hunter biden and mr. zahl which stipulates hunter biden was to to move on from get the contract resolved get the deal resolved and says see is willing to cooperate with the family on august 31 there was

another exchange. this time august 3 excuse me biden in this message t stipulations of the arrangement between the biden family and cfc for the record mr. chairman for. >> wit pay. >> the money flow this is where the rubber meets the road. on august 3 they stipulate through what's app the stipulations of the deal on august 4 $100,000 as a wired into a pc seat efc infrastructure mr. [cheering] to submit for the record a portion of the bank statement for the time. august 3 stipulating a wonder to thousand dollars going from cfc into the bank account of hunter biden objections ordered. >> on august 8, 4 days later $5 million is transferred from northern international capitol

account $5 million to hudson west the third point hudson was the third is a bank account controlled by hunter biden and kevin who is the cfc associate. comes in the northern international capitol a bank account a bank account tied to the cc pete mr. chairman adjustment for the record the bank statement demonstrating that transfer. >> objections ordered for. >> okay moving on. on august 8 the same time. there is a wire transfer form the thousand dollars to pc from the hudson west t account. that form the thousand dollars mr. chairman i of the transfer records and the bank account from the august time. i would just admit t >> without objections so ordered. >> this is where the fun stuff comes innovative got a minute to get going get it done. on 14 there is one or $50000 that is transferred which is controlled by hunter biden controlled

by james biden. i have the records are mr. chairman won a $50000 that has gonehat for the record. >> without objections or to pick cotton august 28 that we have a screenshot for everyone in the room. on august 28 we have the withdrawal tickets from lion hall group that is signed by biden hit was the wife of jim biden from the group. i went to submit the withdrawal receipt for the period. >> without objections ordered. >> on september 3 of the deposit reference into the biden account on the same day i record. >> without objection so ordered progress last document september 3 2007 serum biden's personalcheck written to joseph biden junior the president of the united states todayed loan repayment for a loan repayment by the way joe biden's own personal accountant mr. eric

as no record for. ohgoino submit that for the record mr. chairman fairplex of that objection sorta perplexes the members of the committee it's clear the source of this money came from cfcs a company directly linked to the ccp and action of the chairman of the ccp eight chairman of the chinese, his party chairman cheatingxijinping it without a yield pic looks very good. >> mr. chairman and got a request? >> go ahead but. >> white house the staff report of the minority side the unit in trump world tower. to determine one or 89 months in prison ordering him to pay restitution of more fraud conspiracies and other investors progress that objections the chair now recognizes for

five minutes. if i were not here somewhere around the country watchin congress of the united states and this case 15 months hold these hearings on hunter biden and 15 months as you can see today as a result of that. this is a do-nothing congress. which we do the jobs which we are sent to do which is not to have investigation hearing after investigation hearing over and over and over again and then to her favorite tv outlet to give interviews after his weary sit here to get a job done. taxpayers are looking at all of us. meanwhilemericans black white, asian latino native american and their families are

wondering what is going on. is this another investigation hearing and the 15 in the 15 months that has yielded nothing at all? it is the do-nothing congress but you thought harry truman said 1948, anyone can say it today but look at what we have done months. virtually nothing. nothing at all. senior citizen citizens sit in their homes and watch c-span or some this for some sitting in nursing homes. all of them worried about losing the social security. they are on fixed i and it's energy to deal with things that affect them directly. students are divulging on loans to colleges all over the country. no one wants to talk about that. healthcare isn't adequate. most places in this disease are ravaging our communities and people assume that at some point the congress will do with that. and so is cancer, cardiovascular disease kidney

disease, diabetes, hiv stroke, the disparities in the health system say please, please give us a little bit of your time also when you are not done with hunter biden and when you can prove he's done anything wrong. crime is out of control. white collar as well as black color. assault weapons are still being used every the shooting kills innocent children and americans. we are sitting here talking about something we have talked about for 15 months with no substantial evidence. can get humanitarian aid to palestine. cannot get military t ukraine. children are looking and wondering what is going on. is that what politics are we are doing a disservice but i know i'm supposed to be asking questions and mr. parnas i may have one or two for you i'm so outraged at a do-nothing congress. just pointing the finger, pointing the finger over and over again and people arehurting.

looking for real help. cannot do with immigration because donald trump calls up and kills immigration bill yet people say that's a major issue is it? i have not seen the sort of attention we thought we were put into that or anything else. and so this particular hearing will probably be followed by another hearing and another hearing and another hearing until this congress expires in january of next year end we have not done the thing to move the ball forward. accusations. life is too short. maybe some of you have a guarantee you're going to be around forever but i don't. i came to this first in 1987. i worked under ronald reagan and the first bush and bill clinton and donald trump. and now joe this congress is not doing anything. it's not like the previous congress trust me. that is my people have such us on

congressman so-and-so. people on the street don't buy that. they do not see the know i've exhausted my time. mr. parnas a couple quick questions and i what you go. is it your undstanding rudy giuliani work for an individual identified by the company trump administration as a russian agent? >> yes. >> do you know wha trying to do quickly? >> pushed a conspiracy theory about the biden's brickwork said you know did you warn rudy giuliani? >> yes i did pick. >> what was his response to cinque lee? lexi told me -- mickey agreed with me but then proceeded to work with thesed my back too. >> and these people been identified as russian agents? >> yes, sir. >> we have a meeting here of those. i am disgusted as most people are about this process. the only way we get to a point where we get things done as we learn to talk to one another across the aisle without having

another conspiracy theory after another one after another one. you don't buy trust that way you by contempt i y exit chair recognizes her five minutes. >> think you mr. chairman. i want to start off by saying i think most americans are taught at a very young age that you are who you surround yourself with. keep that in a premise sat here and listen to everyone talk about how hunter biden is this golden boy. are we really supposed to believe hunter bid is the golden boy? his associates are felons convicted of yet he is the golden child. i want to talk about examples of the biden's influence peddling scheme. this time it was romania. it follows the same general pattern as we have seen with other countries like china russia ukraine and kazakhstan. here is the pattern it's really

simple a corrupt foreign oligarch needs access to the u.s. government. hunter biden the oligarchs pay up let's just take a deeper dive into this romanian scheme.. bobulinkski who is gabriel? >> he is a businessman from romania probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars i would envision. is that he faced corruption charges in romania in 2015 kuester. >> it is. >> when you weren europe with the biden's to close on that deal with the chinese you separately negotiated a 17th payment is at also correctit alsocorrect question. >> i did. but he did not want to pay him is thatalk at modest 17th payment that would go to rob walker robert walker would distribute to hunter biden. >> that is is because hunter biden

failed in the work he was engaged to do. which was to get c charges dismissed by the romanian authorities. isn't that correct? >> it is two things they failed to do that. but also joe biden had left the >> okay i get 16 payments joe biden is in the white house. >> correct spread. >> afterspray. >> after joe biden leaves the white house coincidentally the payments stop. >> correct to pray. >> just want to make sure we can connect the dots very sip simply pick. >> obviously is not a coincidence. >> i am not much for coincidence which neither are the american people. but what do you think he wanted nt biden to do? >> i don't have to think because gabriel told me personally he expected and did not want the details he expected hunter biden, robert walker and james to do whatever it was necessary to impact his case in romania.

>> how do you know that? lex because he told me that. >> from his mouth? >> yes. another.we can connect with that be a conspiracy theory question. >> us on a conspiracy theory pricks okay thank you for it i would encourage you to interview gabriel. >> thank you. lastly after claiming he wanted a public hearing hunter biden decided to skipkip the hearing today? >> is at a rhetorical or serious? i don't think you want to sit b obviously i've emphatically stated he perjured himself and transcribed interview with the committee as did his unc jim bided and for every fact he claims her wants to say i was high on drugs or i can show a document, a text message, a recording that confirms he is lying. >> tot lot at the facts get in the way of a good story right? here are the facts are. >> highly disappointing is that you're that pig. >> i would agree i would agree.

here are the facts hunter biden was engaged by a foreign principa it is well-known hunter bike and met with the ambassador to romania in november of 2015. hunter biden was not registered. he stopped getting paid office. until you got popovich to send hunter bite it one more payment. seriously, what services was hunter biden providing to the romanian oligarchs for millions of dollars? we have yet to hear it too. as far as the committee knows hunter biden was never registered under the foreign registration act. justice applied the same standard it did in the case hunter would be in more case than he is already in. mr. chairman there are real issues here that we need to continue to look at but with that i thank you for being here and i think you mr. chairman.

>> absolutely thank you good job for the chair recognizes from new york. >> thank you mr. chair. mr. bobulinkski, i heard your opening statement, submitted to the record part of our proceedings. i have quick question simple. is that your testimony today that you personally president joe biden commit a crime? >> i believe the fact me while i was putting together. >> a jew witnessed the president commit a crime customer is it your testimony today? >> what crime have you witnessed? >> how much time to have to go through? >> it's simple you name the crime did you watch them steal something question. >> corruptions statutes rico. >> what is the crime sir? specifically. >> you asked me too ask the question to answer the question.

ricoh you're obviously not family with corruptions statutes for a quick sers e excuse me sir. excuse me sir. ricoh is not a crime it is a category. >> the category of crime youre then charged with the. >> you have charges. sir please name. >> the scustomer gets funny in this committee room everyone is not here. >> i reclaim my time. i reclaim my time but i reclaim my time. thank you i reclaim time. clearly, what we are seeing here today is a continuation of the 15 month saga of the republican majority lost in the desert. impeachment the majority party or whoever is raising impeachment must accuse the president of a high crime a specific high crime or misdemeanor i would like to submit for the record h rez 9.8 the house resolution to open

this impeachment inquiry perfect without objection so objections to order. >> this does not outline a high crime or misdemeanor it is not here. when we compare the opening from the previous opening he's talking about ukraine a blockbuster piece of informat a classified skiff room. inside that room alleging president biden extremely furious. what happened a month ago mr. chairman? that document the fbi arrested the person a person who offered the allegation for falsifying his testimony to the fbi. the entire impeachment inquiry is based on an actual, approvable individual who has

lied. responsible leadership with withdraw an inquiry based on that. withdraw. instead, what we are seeing warned long before that or invite trump secretary of state mik pompeo proceeded anyway the chairman proceeded anyway. this committee was warned by rudy giuliani after that document about the falsehoods of this. then held hearings her own expert witnesses said there's no grounds for impeachment and free proceeded anyway. finally, as if none of this was enough the fbi arrested the individual who was the source of the entire to quote the chairman part of the manner to launch ment inquiry and proceeded anyway. at this point the story is not the fact the basis of this impeachment inquiry is story is what

its proceeding anyway. why is this committeeáó proceeding based on false charges? by the way no charges i have yet to hear chairman's opening the allegation they are specifically charging the president of the united states with am hearing about biden family. i'm hearing about this and that. i am not hearing the specific allegation by this committee. what is it? it is not here and that is the problem. this committee knew their work with falsified evidence. that is the story. with that i yield back and fix potential it yields back the chair recognizes ms. mays from south carolina for five minutes for. >> thank you mr. chart march 4 25 for joe biden stated he not interact with hunter or jim bided business associates. i like to ask you know's consent

to enter to be record yourost he did not interact by. >> objections order. >> were going to go faster strictly yes or no questions. on that note the "new york post" article joe biden also said read the record of every single witness. so i did. i first read devon archer's deposition he interact with joe biden by donna read the george burgess kevin morse tony bobulinkski and jason. in every single one of themith joe biden. that's just the people we interviewed. my first questions are for you. that hunter biden call joe biden on the line on may 4 2014 yes or no? >> yes for. >> and that called it hunter biden stay on this call with joe biden that everything is forward? >> yes he did pick. >> okay on the same call to joe bided in the call was saying okay then you begin to my boy? >> yes he said that is well requested agreed to put $20 million into one of hunter biden's business projects days later sent to this phone call?

>> yes. >> it hunter biden ever take a call from joe biden in new york? >> that is right. >> it hunter biden ever take a call from joe biden while dependence of our new york? >> yes he did pay. >> during this call that hunter might update joe biden on progress in landing a business partnership harvest fund management? >> yes but. three billion-dollar chinese financial services company closely tied to the chinese commons party? >> yes it was very. harvest? two ways. >> yes or no. [inaudible] 6brick hunter biden involved yes or no? >> yes. as part of the deal to hunter biden with the company to delive biden? >> yes by. >> okay did henry the chinese businessman one assurances joe biden would join the b >> okay. and an e-mail as well. >> okay thank you printed hunter

bided drafted e-mail stating please offer the conversation about a board seat for a for certain relation of mine. then a golf without relation earlier this week we discussed is very idea id again. as been very keen on the opportunity. here is a photo of joe biden and devon archer and hunter biden golfing days before the alleged e-mail draft. do you believe a certain relation of mine refers to joe biden? >> it isconsider that there's any question. >> 's scenes in that picture but. >> did you ever meet with devon archer were hunter took calls for his father? >> yes we. >> are one of these phone calls that hunter by until joe bided date needed help getting quote getting across the finish line? >> yes that is correct for. >> okay if you recall receiving an e-mail the possible giving 10% ownership to joe biden >> yes but. >> my last questions are for both of you very quickly. mr. bobulinkski and mr. galanis you both stated to told not to

use joe biden's name is communications correct? >> yes it. >> yes a progressive job joe biden participated: phone business associates and foreign interest yes or no? mr. bobulinkski. >> yes he clearly deborah. >> yes or no.>> hunter biden's deposition he said he did not involve his father in his business and hunter biden lie under oath yes or no? mr. bobulinkski quest f. >> yes. mr. galanis? i said "that's what he said" yes. >> okay as joe biden lying when he says he did not enter their interest yes or no? x yes. mr. galanis? >> yes. >> and debate october 22, 2020 joe biden denied hun bhina hunter biden's a business associates port it is a good buddy from chinese businesses and business partners and/or and or interest yes or no? mr. bobulinkski? >> i am sorry. >> it hunter bided make money from chinese. biden make money from chinese business interest yes or no?

>> yes. yes. >> trip biden has repeatedly claimed he was not involved and hunter biden jim biden into their biden business deal today art witnesses have proved otherwise. today we establish a biden lied about interactive hunter business associates it is my belief joe biden is the closer for hunter biden jim biden and their business associates and foreign interests. good l the otherwise but thank you you back. >> a judgeattention when it yields back the chart chair recognize mr. porter from california. >> the title of this hearing is influence peddling. examining joe biden's bided's abuse of public office. the impeachment inquiry is dead. if it was on life support mike kollek aoccoley aoc just killed it. there is no allegation of a specific crime. president biden did not do anything wrong gives you

evidence of that and still both democrats and republicans and the immediate treat these hearings like the super bowl. but no one ever wins and americans always lose. i've got a fresh direction for this hearing. all we have to do is cross off the part after the colon. there just influence peddling. we should have a policy discussion how to stop from using their positions to get money or favors that is a realaring one that nearly every american regardless of party once us to hold. we can start by talking about how senior executive branch officials can leave public service wait just one year to legally becomelegally become lobbyists for big corporations. scoring new employer's profitableemployers profitablegovernment contracts favorable regulations. they can even be paid by the big corporations during that short one year.

while they are waiting to become lobbyists as a down payment for their future ability to pedal influence. that is wrong. for the panel of witnesses by show of americans what our witnesses support excitedly when you're waiting. two years? >> i would. >> there we go. republicans, democrats even convicted criminals. supports we should do more to stop influence peddling. it's a government reform am support and i should know. in 2022 i pass an exact reform as an amendment to the national defense authorization act with a bipartisan majority vote. what happened to that amendment? why didn't become simple. nearly 500 former members of congress work for lobbying firms. to any people around you and to

follow their footsteps. and don't want to make it hard for government officials to be lobbyists. ultimately let's the mma get stripped i offered up amendment again republican leadership under then speaker kevin mccarthy never put the amendment up for a vote. other and address the real believe that the rules that prevent corruption our way to

week. to stop po sides of the aisle from peddling the community should be working together in a bipartisan way to change the culture of congress to crack down and just as importantly to stop the perception of it. let me give you some facts. i don't even need a white board whiteboard for this, 400 members work for lobbying forms. congress take corporate pack money. seventy-eight members of congress violated the last congress. clearly we have our work cut out for us so let's start the conversation todaybipartisan reforms ethic package could look like. the organizations that could have come today as witnesses so we could have had a productive conversation. oversight staff do you have your notebooks ready? the responsibility common cause project on government oversight

publicpublic citizen, with the right witnesses and commitment to doing with the american people a real conversation about the problem of influenced peddling and we can pass legislation to create a badly needed ethics guardrails. that would be real work. not a circus. i yield back. >> before i recognize i think you are sincere and i look forward to working with you on that legislation. can we take a five minute break for the bathroom? >> let us get one more and then we will do that. the chair recognizes mr. timmons for five minutes and then we will take a break because we have boats coming up anyway. >> a scheme to the biden concocted to sell the biden brand on almost $30 million for various nu s was repeated with romania russia and ukraine. i'm going to spend my time on

one instance involvingis commitment to conspire to bribery for extortion under the 18 usc section 1951 and if you want a refresher on those look up senator menendez in his wife's indictment. start with this. i've got an e-mail here from the secretary of burisma and he's advocating hunter biden intervened with with officials tocations expressing their positive opinion of the president of burisma to the prosecutor general with the ultimate purpose to close down any cases. this is dated november 2nd.

keep in mind they are being investigated by the inspector general of ukraine and he needs help so here we've got bank records galore of hunter biden receiving prior to this e-mail over a million dollars after the e-mail, $2 million and you will find out so again the $3 million. next what happens? this is great 11 days l have the u.s. embassy announcing the vice president is traveling on december 7th. ravels to the country. here we have a great photo of him touching down. so vice president biden leverages the policy to achieve a favorable outcome. we've all seen the video he brags aboutaging u.s. foreign loan guarantees to get

the ukrainian government to investigation. we've got the e-mail saying that we need to leverage you who haven't provided value for your million doars in service he brings in the big guy biden leverages the u.s. implements and withholds the guarantees to that is not enough, we've got the victory lap and e-mail a few months later saying less than a year. so this is straightforward. pay to play. it's bribery paid $3 million at the lowest point in his life he testified in the deposition that he was drug addicted and thathe's never been to ukraine yet he's paid $3 million to get his father to go to solve his clients problem. does this sound like the scheme you have seen the biden family do? >> i wasn't involved in ukraine

but the facts surrounding this are very similar. >> this is thing. if hunter biden were here, we would be able to ask some questions, but he isnteresting is just yesterday, the federal prison in miami for four months for not showing up in front of the out to everybody the committee was defective under house rules, procedurally because the minority leader did not get to appoint members to the committee. the united states house of representatives oversight and accountability committee is a procedurally perfect committee and we have authority to subpoena hunter biden and he has to show up. he and tell the world that his father didn't leverage the foreign policy so he would get $3 million. this is no different. and of the american people are

not buying this nonsense. we have toe must restore their faith in our institutions and we have to stop this ridiculous where president trump and hides hunter biden behind every corner. this is not the united states of america that the american people deserve and we have to get our country back on track and with that i will >> did the committee subpoena hunter biden today? >> the chair recognizes pursuant to the order at the request of the minority witnessed the chair declares the committee in recess for ten minutes, then we will come back and may have to recess again for a vote.