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florida. >> please welcome chairman of u.s. judiciary committee jim jordan and c packed chairman. ♪♪ i get to ask chairman jim jorn questions. he's usually the one. let's start off with what's on a lot of people's minds. does he not understand we can still be friends? but the love is over? does nikki haley not get what we are saying? [laughter]

>> i didn't know that was going to be a question. president trump will be our nominee and i think he will win. he is the one per person in my lifetime who did more of what he said he would do than any president have ever seen. i love the line -- we talk about the weapon they sent government but look at president trump and the escalation that the left and the government have taken going after this guy. it started with his campaign and it was the muller investigation and then impeachment and then a raid on his home and then it the 14th amendment. he has two state cases and two federal cases and all the indictments, it's gotten ridiculous but he has a great line -- he says they are coming after me because inviting for you and that is so true. that's why i appreciate president trump. >> let's get behind president trump. [applause] >> he actually changed it. when we were in iowa, we had

this nice rally which was -20 degrees but he change the line and said they are coming after my freedom because i'm fighting for yours. i told him i said i like that even better because it is so true and so accurate, what we see with the federal government and these agencies are what they are doing to we the people and he is fighting for us. let's get behind him and make sure he wins in november. >> i'm not sure of jimmy kimmel live understood what the title of this conversation is. what are you talking about, willis? did she get back to you today? >> not yet. >> is she supposed to get back to you today? did you hear from her boyfriend? [laughter] >> i said, fani willis and nathan wade. we haven't heard back from her yet we will see what we get from her but there is a whistleblower in her office who we have talked

to on her committee staff. [applause] >> the whistleblower i think she is like four foot 11 but bonnie willis had police escort her out when she fired his lady because this lady raise the concern that ms. willis was not spending federal funds, not following the rules of the grant dollars in the appropriate manner. she raised this concern and is now talking with our office. we will see where that goes and that's why we subpoenaed for records and documents related to this. we will see what we get. she was also interesting. instead of accepting service on the subpoena, she met us at the u.s. marshals. we had correspondence back and forth and she made the u.s. marshals take the subpoena there. go figure, this is fani willis and we also her at it -- and we also her attitude on display. >> i thought it was a skit but an act we was real-life. >> it was real. >> we sent out a tweet that said

we didn't invite fani willis to cpac but there is a bonnie sandwich with a chaser of grey goose vodka. >> if you have enough cash in your pocket. the comedy routine from this coming out today, that's awesome. [laughter] >> it's been a long year. >> we appreciate what you do them we appreciate what cpac is meant for conservative principles for a long, long time. [applause] >> thanks a lot. you are a hero to a lot of us for a lot of reasons. you have 100% rating in our scorecard, you've had positions of importance and big titles and you always do the right thing and you always vote right. how come you don't wander off and get potomac fever like everone else gets? because you're not a senator? because >> there is lots of good senators. i appreciate that. i say this all the time, i think

we make the job too complicated. you're in public office and it's really your objective which is basic. what did you tell the voters you were going to do when you ran for the office? if they elect you, do what you said. go fight for the things you told them. that's how this compact works between the elected officials and the people we get the privilege of representing. i try to remember that when i think about the people in north central ohio in the fourth district. >> anybody here from ohio? there we go. the room is pretty full. i wonder why. i think you are like. d. >> mercy and i work for president trump and the white house and we worked in the bush white house which is another story to the white house counsel is one of the most important jobs in that white house. whenever you are the white house counsel come if you work for a republican, everyone knows who you are in their stories constantly about the legal

turmoil about every republican president. i don't know what people realize that joe biden has white house counsel and his pre-much anonymous. i've never read stories about him and i'm reading that his office is coordinating a meeting with fani willis, her then boyfriend, meeting with the folks going after trump and president trump in new york. shouldn't we know who this is and why is he getting away with what i view as an american citizen? it looks like there's a lot of coordination from the white house on running cover on hunter biden and biden incorporated in the attack and the persecution president trump. >> nathan wade is supposedly in contact with the white house counsel's office on the white house and the justice department and january 6 committee. >> shouldn't they be running an independent investigation? >> you would think. >> i'm sure he's entitled to

that information but we want to know how this has played out when you think about they are going after their political opponent that started clear back in 15 and 16 when they started to finalize the campaign. based on a confidential human source, nothing seems to happen to christopher steele. now we have this human source that christopher wray filled out this form. he said we can't give you the 1023 form. he's been a 14 year informant and we paid him. they arrest the guy twice. maybe the guy did live. it's quite a contrast for christopher steele giving false information about president trump and he continues to get paid. this mr. smirnov can give false information and he gets arrested. >> i might be slow on the go but i don't think i will fall for the next russian collusion without proof. >> 2016, it was trump and muller

told us that didn't happen. in 2020, it was the laptop of russian information. it turned out to be baloney and here we go again come around three. maybe it's a case but is still seems strange to me. >> what will happen with hunter? >> he will testify next week in our deposition. we will have some questions for him. we continue to dig into our work. one thing i would say for sure is there are four facts that will never change. fact number one, hunter biden gets put on the board he gets paid $1 million per year. >> the is an energy expert, you have to give them that. he has a lot of energy. >> fact number two, he's not qualified. he said so himself in an interview with abc news. fact number three, hunter biden meeting with the ceos of burisma, they asked him can you weigh in and help relieve the pressure we are under from the prosecutor in ukraine? he calls d.c. and his father

according to his business partner. fact number four, after that phone call, joe biden go to ukraine and conditions the release of our tax dollars, your tax dollars on the firing of that prosecutor. those four facts, joe biden reg about the last thing. those four facts go against what the state department said they needed to happen. they sent a letter to the press care is saying you're a good job. they sent in inner agency policy committee that ukraine is one billion thousand joe biden changed it. could it have been the phone call from his son? joe biden gets his guy fired and applied pressure to the company that higher -- that hunter biden sits on the board of making $1 million per year. that's not how things should operate but those facts are fundamental. despite what the democrats say, those facts don't change. >> i want to go back to the previous question. the white house counsel is ed siskel. i'm not accusing him of doing anything wrong but i think there

is a lot of wrongdoing associated with the attempt to imprison joe biden's general election opponent. i think we ought to know who the man is. i think he should answer some questions. i want to know why the biden administration and the biden white house doesn't recuse itself from questions concerning their own campaign. it seems like a very basic thing. i think the people of cpac, let's start acting questions, do you agree? [applause] >> you have all these victims, you went back through russia gate, russian collusion, what went on during the 2016 campaign. mercy and i know this, we've had a lot of calls over the last several years from dear friends who are quietly bankrupted and quietly investigated, quietly having their lives destroyed, quietly having their professional lives destroyed.

it's all because they want to wear a red hat. that's the reason. i have an interesting question for you to consider. until all those people get their legal fees back answering basic questions, until these victims, thesej6 victims in the crowd on until they are made whole financially by our government wronged them and by the doj in particular, what the wrongdoing keep going on and on? >> there is some positives. we focused on the weaponization of these agencies that are supposed to serve the people that have been turned against us. >> is more than one or two? >> right, there has been some positives. we pointed out a year or so ago that homeland security has set up the disinformation governance board. they tell you what you are allowed to say and what you are not allowed to say. they were attempting to do this

and we made such a big issue of this and can serve as around the country helps to get rid of that board. sometimes bite drawing attention to the ridiculous things, you can make a difference. the irs announced they would no longer be making unannounced visits to american citizens homes. that's a good thing. the commissioner at the irs said we are doing this because we are concerned about the safety of our agents. baloney. [laughter] >> they are doing it because we caught them knocking on matt tai bi's door when he was testifying on the weaponization of government. he's testifying and democrats are asking him to reveal his sources. they are attacking his free press rights and he explaining why you can't do that and he didn't have to divulge his sources. it turned out they owed him money it wasn't the other way around. sometimes, just by highlighting these things, you can have an impact. we just have to keep it up.

we will also be focused on legislation particular where the government is involved in censoring american speech. you have a cause of action. we have legislation that mr. bishop and ms. hagan will introduce in the district committee we think will help address the situation. that is the most important thing. all this other crazy stuff, we can recover from it all but if they take away our first amendment rights -- we have five rights of the first amendment, your right to practice your faith, right to assemble, right to petition your government, free press, free-speech speech, all critical important. but the most important is your right to talk. if you can't speak, you can't practice your faith or share your faith or petition your government and you don't have a free press. that is what they are going after so we are really focused on that more than anything else. [applause] >> god bless you for that. back when i had a little more brown hair.

i worked on the hill. president clinton and hillary, she corruptly fired the travel office because you didn't like what they were doing. the republican majority came back and made those people whole , they gave him a vector pensions and help them with their legal fees. what cpac would like to be his partner with good guys like you to make sure that there is not worth spending the doj has a slush over there and they don't always go to good causes. we should have more funds at the og -- it doj. if united states uses every penny of your savings and you have to hire these expensive lawyers and you get down to the end, i think you deserve to be made whole. >> well said. [applause] >> finally, let's talk about the first amendment freedoms. freedom of the press is not the first one, sorry guys in the back.

they always things the first one but it is important. what is going on? >> we are trying to dig into this. what happened here looks really wrong in my judgment. they have grabbed everything. this is her sources, or information. it does not happen when you are talking about -- cbs fired catherine heritage who has done an amazing job she's an amazing journalist and a fair journalist. [applause] >> they grabbed her stuff. they literally grabbed her stuff. this further encroachment by folks on the left which no unfortunately controls the democratic party is an encroachment on first amendment rights. think back to covid. they told americans, governors and mayors told americans you can't go to church sunday in america? think about that. >> the government closed down the church? >> it's crazy. i gave his feet to the new mexico republican party in

amarillo, texas because their liberal democrat governor wouldn't let them assemble in their own state so they had to go to texas to get the freedom to assemble. on and on it goes. >> i think a lot of them ended up staying because it was a better place. >> may be. it's scary what's happening to catherine. you know what great reporting she done over the years. what cbs has done doesn't make sense and is something we will dig into. >> i think the biggest problem we have despite all the policy and constitutional crises and everything else, the biggest problem we have is our own hearts. a lot of people are giving up. they say we've lost so much ground and we lost the constitution and they cheat in elections, it's too late. we believe at cpac, one of our biggest job is to wake up those people and make them understand that november is the fight for the future of america. what is your inspirational message to those folks who might have given up? >> the left controls big media

and big tech and big corporations and big sports and academia in hollywood and the bureaucracy. it now controls united states senate and the white house but the left doesn't control we the people. [applause] >> that is always what this country is about. that's why you guys are here. we remember that and remember there is a guy at the top of the ticket >> you mean a really big guy? >> i mean president trump will be at the top of the ticket who cares about the first amendment and cares about this great country and is as positive as you can be in spite of everything that's happened to him. i've gotten a chance to know this guy and he is such an amazing guy who loves his country, loves regular people like folks in his room and is willing to go fight for us because he cares about the greatest nation ever. >> are we going to win? >> we are. >> that's a great way to end it.

thank you, jim jordan. >> thank you all, god bless. [applause] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ >> ladies and gentlemen. please welcome from florida and editor of townhall.com, katie pavlovich. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ a busy friday afternoon.

... ca mmack. rep. commack: absolutely. this is great. you were just getting started with your work on the subcommittee for the weaponization of the federal government in theone house.te i wanted to make sure we gave the audience an update on the work you've been doing over the past year. because really the weaponization of the federal government is an assault on peoples constitutional rights. maybe give an overview of what you're doing and we can get into the details. >> how many people here feelee e government has gotten way too big? okay. how many people feel the government has abused its powers against everyday american

citizens? yes. i mean there's pretty much general consensus that there's a problem happening inob the couny where these unelected nameless faceless bureaucrats think ict l of a sudden have the powder, the power to take an everyday american citizens and strip them of thehe constitutional rights. and so for the last year under the leadership of chairman jim jordan hotel just saw, was in the gym great? he's amazing. we have been tackling all the various aspects of weaponization of federal government and its everything from a the ukrainian intelligence service which is directing the fbi to take down your social media posts or a bank giving up your financial information to the fbi to search for key terms that would indicate that you are a radical individual, for example, if you shop at bass pro or at cabela's. i guess that makes me a radical.

but that is a type of work we've been undertaking and one of the key areas that is just really emerged is this nexus between ai in censorship, and this is where we dig into the industrial -- that's one way to really encapsulate the work that we've done is really the finding and digging into this new era of industrial complex where big government and big tech work hand in glove to take away your constitutional rights. ththe democrats, they don't thik this is happening. i was in person in the stranger said they think government is too big and there's a problem and its weaponized. and the democrats say no, it's not a problem. >> is it that democrats don't things happen ore that the democrats are fine with it and they see it as a tool to use for their political purposes? because democrats, we've seen through the biden administration and for the obama administration

before that that they're perfectly fine with using the federal government against their politicaler opponent. is it that they don't know about or that they deny so they can then use it to their advantage? >> we all know the democratic agenda, the liberal progressive agenda, is nothing more than dependency and control. they want to grow the size of government so that we become dependent on all of the big government programs so that they can then of course take control. when itio comes to the weaponization committee, without fail those on the left all they want to talk about is how it's a sham that there's no weaponization of government all, and donald trump is bad. that's what they want to talk about. they are so obsessed with donald trump that they will do anything possible to make sure that he is not the nominee or the 47 president of the united states. their obsession is real and it is just unbelievable that they are so blind with hate that that's all they can focus on.

they can see that right in front of you readers of whether republican or democrat this is a real problem where everyday rights of americans are being stripped away and day doing nothing in stopping it or trying to tackle it. >> we have a w constitution fora reason. people still don't constitutional rights but as we continue to move into a a completely digital society, whether it's online, this information we consume of what banking, you set an example, i shop at bass pro. i shop at cabela's. through the coverage of your committee and the workou you gus do in reporting, they are like bibles as extreme as a sales which is a violation of the first amendment and, of course, the search and seizure without the warrants which is not just limited to bass pro and cabals, the fbi's doing headers of thousands of searches unlawfully for years now. so how do americans fight back against this kind of invasion and violation of the rights especially what is very difficult to see it happening

when you have these federal government agencies like the atreasury department, for example, and computers you're not seeing the action on until much later, years later? how are you working to combat this in happening in the first place? it seems like guilty until proven innocent everything. they do it and f f you find out about it later. >> it does feeldo like you are n a twilight zone, bike to your point your guilty until proven innocent. one of the things were doing and i think chairman jordan alluded to thise and some of the legislative fixes, ensuring first amendment right is there, protected and that you have the right to free speech. one of the very, very troubling things is you can walk up to an average member of congress and unlikely they could outline the five tenets of the first amendment. that is very scary. these of the people taken oath to uphold the constitution. and soon one thing we've done is alleged that album which i will

add one piece of legislation that were working on in our office is called a fencing bill. we know the challenges that we face in the government funding battle. i mean no sooner than a week from now we will probably looking down the barrel of a a government shutdown over adi spending battle. until we can get an attitude adjustment, every much needed attitude adjustment in washington, we have more clever way to figure out how we can hold these unelected swamp creatures accountable. that's by censoring their money. if we can't cut their money we are going to fence it. people like what would that do? you start in different departments and you hold the money hostage. to my complete skinn and i'm so sick and tired and you guys are, to come sitting on the sidelines and watching these people run roughshod over our rights with our money and they treated like their money. it's our money. it's crazy. >> i'm so glad you brought up the fencing andhe the strategy behind holding progress

accountable because that's exactly it, its bureaucrats who are faceless nameless dog and delete for them and agencies to happen to be mostly leftist work and federal government think if they can't violate the rights of of the american for the sake of whatever cost there pushing. we've seen this issue a big tech parting with big government, whether it's the white house, whether it's the federal government, other areas also state governments, for example, but now were moving into this new phase i was in san francisco a couple weeks ago dash i'm sorry. i was only driving through. >> did you download the poop? >> i cannot because only driving through but it was risky. but all the billboards were about ai. and your committee the weaponization committee just came out with his alarming almost 100 page report about how the national institute of science foundation which is a federal government funded program is using taxpayer money to workxp with academia to censr

information online quote at scale. talk about this new partnership that has been unveiled and you're been appointed to a new commission to work on ai, bipartisan commission actually. so talk about the dangers of ai in the wake of his already working through grants, through money to use it to quote censor at i scale. >> it's terrifying what we are seeing. to your point about this new commission that's been formed we just actually this week announced the newew congressionl ai task force. this is important to get out of if you guys have seen the news in the last week microsoft rolled out their new ai platform and ask it you to question, something as simple as paint a picture of a 16th century came from england, and it gives you a guy in dreads and like it's ridiculous. the front page of the "new york post" had a great front cover

that talked about how the pope was a woman. it is just riddled with dei b.s. and why it's that was because of the language model. what were doing on the task force is we are ensuring the language model come from a liberty perspective. because if you start with garbage in europe and get garbage out. i think there's tremendous to aiial when it comes but what does an average american do? what do organizations do? what do organizations or municipalities, cities, counties do if there's massive elections interference at scale because of ai? there's very little recourse. there has to be some guidance, some guiding frameworks frameworks putgu in place we dot want to overreact like government typically does and dried the innovation out. because i do see a tremendous opportunity for us to do incredible things using ai. but we have to be cognizant of the dangers around it. if we don't get this right we

could be staring downow the barl of massip censorship at scale le we saw at stanford, at m.i.t., at univision michigan. give a quickck example. the system that was awarded for m.i.t. with her ai initiative, it said in the findings that there were utilizing ai to reprogram veterans, real americans, and people who had taken so that it might set -- rural americans -- because we handle truth. so they were literally using ai to try to reprogram conversations and mindsets and facts. that's dangerous. that's incredibly dangerous. we have a lot of work to do it we are right at the beginning of our allies going to be of limited and everything aspect of our life so we got to make sure we don't stifle innovation would also have to make sure we are protecting our national security and we're protecting peoples constitutional rights. >> essentially has tos evolve. ai technology that is evolving

and as we've seen through covid, for the 2020 election with hunters laptop, , with twitter, facebook censoring felt, what conservative media outlets were accurately reporting on where that virus came from. this is happening at even higher level, like you said george washington was put in his ai system at microsoft of the religious washingtonno did not come out of that. and essentially the basically erased all live hails from the entire system. outside of government would you encourage private companies to go into this ai space and to our liberty might of voices? because like you said if you're only hurting people in san francisco to this ai, it's garbage in garbage out your not going of any and it comes to the result. >> actually. i would encourage people who are in the startre of space attender shy away from it because you have these massive competitors in google, in apple, microsoft

all these people that are playing in space and we started talking to them about a language model that has a philosophical base in freedom and liberty, and diversity of thought rather than the traditional dei check the box mentality, right? it's basically equivalent of trying to explain high-tech to stalin. i know some of my history nerds got that appreciate it. thank you. makes me feel better. -- high-tech. it's crazy were not encouraging the start of to get into space because are so many voices they need to be in space and are getting shut out. you can see the big players getting involved with government because they want to regulate what he can keep competition away. they want to make it where they can control and also have to push back against. >> we have about a minute at the left. on the issue going back to constitutionalize aspects because it so important and as i said you guys keep finding new things all the time i'm what the governmentnt is doing to backdor

all these ways they can go run first amendment and the second amendment and all the amendments. and so you were in the house, there's a slim margin, senate is controlled by chuck schumer. how to get this legislation you were discussing into a form that can be passed so they can't holy bureaucrats accountable for what they've been doing? >> i think what it comes down to what you asked republican everyday americans do. i think getting involved and you guys are here so you are involved, but getting more people involved and educated about this and in communicating with your members ofun congresss critical. the power of the people is unrealized quite frankly and untapped. because let mee tell you there's nothing a career politician fears more than a group of people who are motivated, educated and activated. they are absolute powers if they roll in his office and the phone lines are ringing off the hook with some of the hey i don't want you to vote for this bill or hey i want you to cosponsor this bill. that is a power of the people

that has really not been activated in ways we have seen yet. so that's one thing but then in getting that across the finish line the some creative strategic and we can do for the appropriations process. i am over single issue bills and i would love for us to get back to that. speed is polling of grants from groups. >> yet. the over state hundred%. single issue bills hurt your members of congress on record saying no, i don't want moreover, said. i don't want people to know where all the money is going. put these people on the record and expose them for the coward that they are. we need to reassert authority as the people and in congress. >> all right. on that note congresswoman kat cammack think a summit free time. >> thank you, cpac. [inaudible]