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he urged others to join. >> thanks so much for joining us. we have a lot going on so we're going to have members coming and going, but we are here today to authoritatively express that president trump did not commit an insurrection and we believe congress has a unique role in making that declaration. it's not the job of the states
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and especially not the job of some bureaucrats in colorado to make this assessment and interfere with the rights of voters to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice. the very experts who often get on television and talk about securing democracy seem to be the first to want to then remove a candidate from the ballot because they are afraid that he is too popular. we have 63 cosponsors to the resolution that mr stonic and i will be filing today to express the sense of congress that president trump did not commit an insurrection. i want to express my gratitude to senator vance for filing the companion legislation over in the senate and now is time for members of the house and senate to show where they stand on this question. we and the former president welcome and expect many more
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co-sponsors in the coming days and look forward to a floor vote and now i'd like to recognize my co-lead on this project, are terrific republican conference chair. >> thank you so much. the american people are smart they know that the weaponized attacks of radical far-left prosecutors and joe biden's department of justice against president donald trump are nothing more than a targeted political witch hunt used to further their own extreme far-left political agenda and hijack the will of the american people.
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come election day as president donald trump continues to dominate in the polls extreme democrats will stop at nothing in an attempt to prevent president donald trump from returning to the white house. >> thank you for leading on this. the same people trying to keep donald trump off the ballot are the same ones who supported the fake dossier, the biggest fraud in political history, probably. the same ones who claimed obamacare would let you keep your dr. and it's going to cost you less. same people that claim the border is secure.
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now they claim donald trump is a danger to democracy. and should not be on the ballot. just three quick facts, the real threat to democracy is an administration that weaponizes government to target, intimidate, and silence political opponents. the real threat to democracy is the use of law fair to destroy political adversaries and interfere in elections. the real threat is denying american citizens the right to vote for the candidate of their choice. at this time a like to turn it over to congressman babon. >> i want to thank mr. gates for having this. i'm from the 36th district of texas. here's the reality. if you still refuse to believe the endless war on donald j. trump's field by anything other than pure hatred and personal
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vendettas, were not ever going to change her mind. the facts obviously don't really matter to you. but the american people and those standing with me here today can see the truth, the radical left is attempting to destroy our electoral process and folks, we cannot let them succeed. for the benefit of our great republic, it is time to push back, to preserve the type of freedom that was won by blood and defended by patriots, to keep in place the liberties that set the united states apart from all nations on the face of this earth and have allowed our nation to become the envy of the world. we cannot bend the knee or turn a blind eye to this blatant attempt to discredit the will of the american people. it is crystal clear that donald trump did not incite an insurrection. to say otherwise and to block him from any ballot in any state
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's election interference, pure and simple. let's not call this what it is, or let's do call this what it is, a desperate fourth-quarter hail mary to remove a political opponent and rival from contention. it's a reckless precedent that sets and risks our entire democratic process and it must be rejected. i yield back. i would like to introduce my good friend from arizona, representative andy biggs. >> thanks, mr. gates, i appreciate you introducing this important piece of legislation to try to readjust the constitutional republic that we are. what we have seen is mass hysteria caused by you, the
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reckless leftist media. that's what we've seen. let's consider this. what did pull or prize-winning reporter matthew rosenberg say? the left's reaction to it in some places was over-the-top the top. they were making it this organize thing that it wasn't. that's what mr. rosenberg said. what did the court say? when you had an individual named matthew martin, he's tried. he just happen to be here peacefully wandering around, but he was charged with entering a restricted building, disorderly conduct, violent entry and parading in the capital building. petty offenses. but what we found out is he was waived into the capital and what did capitol police officer say, well, the crowd was large and we waived him in.
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that was a testimony given by police officer. that doesn't sound like an insurrection. neither does these comments by president trump. stay peaceful. 30 minutes later, i'm asking for everyone at the u.s. capitol to remain peaceful, no violence. remember, we are the party of law and order. respect the law and are great men and women in blue. thank you. that doesn't sound like an insurrection. fbi best to break into the capital but they found no evidence that the groups had any serious plans about what to do if they made it inside the capitol. that doesn't sound like an insurrection. further the fbi found no
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evidence that president trump are people directly around him were involved in organizing violence, according to law enforcement personnel. no charges filed for insurrection or treason. how about when director ray kaman testified, he said there were three groups on the capitol that day, largely and by far the majority were peaceful. second group were people that for whatever reason they entered the capitol, but they were peaceful, but they committed a trespass. in then you had a small group that was violent. we call that a riot. well, but that's not how it happen. the democrats, they insisted that it was an insurrection, but the exchange between eric swalwell, trying to get the director to say it was an insurrection at the hearing in june of 2021 where the director said, i understand why you describe it that way, but as fbi
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director, that term has legal meaning. it was not an insurrection, but the left supported by their accomplices in the media continue to try to harass and have president trump removed from ballots using this false narrative, and it is a false narrative. that's why i'm here. i appreciate representative gaetz and representative's and i will be supporting this bill. and i will just tell you one other thing. when i think of insurrection -- i'm not even going to go there. i will just tell you this. i wish you would all take a look at your leftist colleagues in the congress who have advocated violence every time and then tell me what insurrection is. i yield to my friend from tennessee. >> thank you, i am used to going at the end.
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i want to thank my dear friend matt gaetz for including me in this. it's a sad day when free speech is weaponize, especially against the political opponent. it's hard to engage in an insurrection when you weren't even there. president trump told protesters to protest peacefully. he said please support our capitol police and law enforcement. i don't know what he can say more than that. does that sound like someone engaging in insurrection? president trump did not make these people do this and he sure wasn't engaged in himself. there used to be something in this country before everybody got a trophy and was called personal responsibility. but president trump is a man who loves our country, especially our law enforcement. it drives the secret service crazy every time he sees a group
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of police officers because he always stops to speak to them. trump made his concerns known, it's not legal in this country at least it used to not be to have a first amendment. it is not illegal for trump and it's not illegal for your everyday americans. this is about the left warning to remove him. they will do anything to get it done. on a personal note, i was the last person, the last house member to leave the house floor. i called the investigators twice because someone was actually doing a blog or something in the tunnel with their computer on to other people. i explained this to them, i called them twice, they never call me back. i went on my own volition and someone else we reviewed those tapes and i pointed out who it was. it was a member of the media
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but i could never get anyone to return my calls in my repeated attempts and i wasn't invited back to the january 6th commission was a joke and i yield to my good buddy from tennessee, john rose. >> thank you, tim. we shouldn't have to be here today but we are because of illegal and illegitimate attempts by unhinged left-wing courts and liberal elected officials that have put their own political endeavors above the u.s. constitution. the fact is donald trump had every right to peacefully contest the results of the 2020 election. hillary clinton did it. so did many of my democratic colleagues in 2000, 2,004, and 2016. the rules are clear and simple. they are written an article 2 section one of the constitution
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and in the electoral count act of 1887. it is how our process works. as a former practicing attorney i can say there isn't a single shred of evidence that points in the direction that donald trump participated in an insurrection. the protesters who were present in the capital building did so of their own volition. they were not encouraged and they were not led by the president to take any such actions other than to peacefully protest. the bottom line is we need to send a message to the country and those who are doing everything they can to remove donald trump from the ballot. your efforts will not stand. democracy and the rule of law are on donald trump's side. in america, we let the people decide at the ballot box who their leaders are going to be. i stand here in support of mr. gaetz's resolution which
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express the sense of the house that donald trump did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the united states. this is a no-brainer. i want to thank all of my colleagues standing here today and those joining us in support of mr. gaetz's resolution, thank you very much and it is my great pleasure to introduce jeff andrews. >> good afternoon. good to be with you. let me thank mr. gaetz and miss stefanik for their work, it's making a difference. i've prepared notes here. i was going to read a speech. i'm not going to bother. it's too long and there is too many of us but let me tell you the real deal. this is about politics unfortunately. it's about left-wing politics. it is a tale of two presidents.
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a failed president, joe biden failed on the borders, failed on the economy, failed on foreign policy, failed on what's going on in our cities and the dk, failed in every parameter and every barometer that you could use. is a failed president and we had a successful president, donald trump to look where we were four years ago, strong economy, sealed borders, cities thriving and doing well. in every measure you can use, but the left can't let that happen. i'm not going to say democrats because they are still some good democrats out there, moderate ones, less and less unfortunately but the left wants you to look at the shiny object over here. what happened on january 6th because if you are not looking at that you were looking at what's really happening and when you look what is really happening you are worried if you are un-american because you see every thing is going in the
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wrong direction. look at the polls. even when it is polls done by the new york times or any other group they will tell you that things aren't going well for this president. then we speak about democracy, who wanted to stop the democratic process. donald trump made it clear over and over again he respects police and law enforcement, he wanted it to be a peaceful process. he used those words but somehow those words aren't in on the stories about january 6th. the real deal here is they say other folks that hate donald trump or don't like republicans will say they want to stop, republicans want to stop, donald trump wants to stop democracy in action. who is stopping the primary in their own primary elections and not participating in them? you know their names? joe biden.
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who is pushing people out of the party? who is pushing them out, joe biden. asked rfk what he thinks about the process. what he thinks about democracy, ask the two people, dean phillips, what he thinks, he wants to engage in a debate, they won't debate them, they won't debate him and dean phillips is a liberal democrat. he just wants democracy to take place. ladies and gentlemen, all i ask you to think about is what this is really about, boils down to this, trump didn't want violence, he didn't want that. he wanted to let people know what the real deal is. trump successful, biden unsuccessful, what do we got to look at, they want to talk about the past and they want to talk about january 6th. it is a nothing burger, it's a nonstarter compared to what we need to talk about which is the
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future of this republican. i would like to ask my good friend lauren bogert --boebert next. >> i thank my dear friend matt gaetz for introducing this resolution and chairwoman stefanik for leading this. this is a witchhunt against donald trump. it is absolutely unprecedented and the woke mob, the fake news and the leftist government officials who are engaging in this extortion should be downright ashamed of themselves. all of these bogus cases against donald trump are plain and simple election interference. it is an act of fear. they are afraid of donald trump and they should be because they understand donald trump once he is back in the white house will undo all of the damage that the left is caused, the american
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people over the last four years, he will bring back his policies that make our country the greatest country to live in. they tried to rig the 2,020 election by sending hundreds of thousands of ballots illegally, they convoluted with the government and big tech to censor the hunter biden laptop story. we know that democrats would have changed their votes had they been informed about hunter biden's laptop. we know that they would have not voted for president biden. the left is afraid and they are trying again to rig another election by interfering in this political witchhunt by persecuting their political opponent. the reality is the left knows they cannot win at the ballot box, they cannot be donald
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trump in an actual free and fair elections so they are trying to rig the game in the courts. the american people see through this, they see that this is election interference, not only will donald trump when at the supreme court after my home state of colorado removed donald trump from a primary ballot which is absolutely absurd and completely un-american, completely unconstitutional but he will win at the supreme court, he will win in november and the american people will win. we want a president again who cares for us, who cares for our country, mister president, i stand with you, colorado stands with you, my colleagues here in washington dc stand with you and america cannot wait for your return, thank you. for everything you have done
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for our country. mr. gaetz, thank you for the resolution i turn it to the chairman of the house of house freedom caucus, bob good. >> thank you for being here today. my good friend congressman gaetz who demonstrates undying love of country and courage like is rarely seen in the house of representatives with things that he does i thank him for bringing the resolution for that especially states what we already know, that donald trump did not incite an insurrection against the government on january 6th, 2020, one, democrats have two things these last three years, they have covid forever, j6 forever, donald trump simply ignored, encouraged 74 million americans to come to washington to peacefully protest, petition their government and express their grievances. i'm thankful again to my
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colleague mister gates for initiating this resolution clarifying this very fact. donald trump is right when he says it over and over, he is the one standing between a weapon eyes biden administration and the american people and they are not just after him, they are after all of us. president biden has weapon in his department of injustice unlike anything we have ever seen before simply to target his political rival and his supporters. what more effective way to rig an election than to keep your opponent from but being able to beyond the ballot from his department of injustice has targeted conservatives all over the country whether it is pro-life protesters in pennsylvania, parents at school board meetings all over the country, catholics practicing their faith not just in richmond, not just from one field office which is egregious enough that all across the fbi and even targeting those who purchase ammunition, or purchase religious materials, targeted by this weapon eyes department of injustice. of all the crazies and all the
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existential threats to the country this present and administration created perhaps the most dangerous of all is loss of faith and trust in our federal law enforcement and system of justice. i think colleagues for assembling today. for initiating this. >> thank you for the resolution. for a decade donald trump has been the victim of political persecution with no basis in reality. it starts with the russian hoax and then goes to the impeachments in the house and it ends with donald trump being accused of engaging in an insurrection. extreme democrats will use every tool at their disposal to
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either implicate donald trump in a made up fake scandal and in case you forgot, we had across this country in the name of peaceful protest, donald trump and his supporters were vilified for doing nothing more than exercising their first amendment rights. the american people know there's a 2-tier justice system in this country but i will tell you there's a triple threat. we have weaponization of the department of justice under the biden administration and they absolutely work in collaboration with secretaries of state and far left judicial activist judges and together they have launched a coordinated attack on our elections to silence the voice of millions of americans but their calculated distortion of the truth is aimed to deny
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biden's chief political opposition and appearance on the 2024 ballot and interfere with the presidential election. this is not partisan politics. it is aimed to. this country is divided and for people know it and you know why? because they get half-truths or no truths at all. i have watched the faces of some of you reporters and you smirk. but that is exactly what happened. they give half-truths or no truths at all. but the american people make their own judgment and the last thing i will say is of this. we have to stand strong against this evil. there's a verse of scripture that says we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and rulers of this dark world and we wrestle against spiritual wickedness in high
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places so my message to the american people is simple. armor up and get ready for the spiritual battle ahead because it is going to be a battle. with that -- come on up. it's your turn. >> not one single person has been charged with insurrection. not one single person has been convicted within -- insurrection. not one. every single court of our land no one has been charged and convicted, democrats and dishonest people in the media every single day accused donald trump of waging an insurrection. and accuse many of us from waging an insurrection and doing nothing but lying and selling the lies of the democrats for campaigns in an election, shame on every single person that has done that, shame on you.
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you need to tell the truth, you have a freedom of the press, one of the greatest rights in this entire world and anyone that puts the word insurrectionist, calls donald trump and insurrectionist and cause any of us and insurrectionist is a liar and you do not deserve the power you pose us. shame on you. shame on you. let me give you a little history lesson, okay? when donald trump was inaugurated, antifa and leftist rioters nearly burned down washington dc. did you call it an insurrection? no. blm raised millions of dollars on the act. democrat fundraising website and then proceeded to cause to billion dollars in damages across american cities and communities in 2020 every day, not one day for 3 hours. every day.
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did you call it an insurrection. they attacked police officers, federal courthouses, tore down statues, burned 93 police vehicles, did you in the media call it an insurrection? no you did not. you called it mostly peaceful. you lied to the american people and the american people don't trust you anymore because of that and then the american people who pay for elections with their tax dollars actually own the elections and have the right to care about their election, election integrity and the results of their elections will. when they came to washington and protested, all of you called it an insurrection. then when president biden was inaugurated and this entire capital complex was surrounded with 30,000 national guard troops, none of you stood there and called that an insurrection. you all stayed silent, and
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while matthew graves, us attorney of the department of justice is arresting people every single day throwing them in jail, held them for 22 hours in solitary confinement on convicted all of you stayed silent. no one attacked them for that. apparently you think it is deserved. shame on you. i want you to know the american people are paying attention. they are not stupid just because you tell them in your articles and in your headline sent on your networks that trump is an insurrectionist or any of us are insurrectionist's. you are hurting your own careers and hurting your industry for lying to him. i would like to thank you, matt, very much and i would like to thank elyse stefanik for introducing this resolutions i cannot believe we even have to do this because democrats and liars in the media accused donald trump of being an insurrectionist when in fact he is not.
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he said go in peace. go in peace. god bless donald trump, god bless him for saying we should care about our elections and i want you to know because of that, americans do care about our elections, we have every right to care. thank you. i urge my colleagues to vote for this resolution and i turn it over to ronnie jackson from texas. >> thank you. i appreciate you doing this, this is something that's really important. it has been no said few years in the biden administration and we've seen things happen in the southern border, the security of our border and everything it brought with it, the crime and the drugs, we've seen our reputation overseas devastated. we seen our economy take a huge hit because of the biden policies that have been put in place but the biggest danger is
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the weaponization of government that has taken place in an effort to prevent donald trump from being president again. it started a long time ago but it happened here in this very body as well. this body has participated in the weaponization of government directed specifically at that, keeping donald trump from ever being reelected and becoming president again and we saw that during the january 6th committee, a disgrace the by democrats like liz cheney and adam schiff and others, we saw what happened. we found out this committee was put in place for no other reason other than to tear donald trump down. we see they've been discredited, found out some of the information they had, some of the evidence they collected which most likely was evidence that undermined their case against donald trump has been destroyed. this unfortunately is just the beginning of a long period of time where democrats have tried every single thing possible, every tool at their disposal to
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go after donald trump, very single-minded. all they care about is do not let donald trump be on the ballot, do not let him be eligible to run and do not let him become president again or put him back in the white house. i can tell you that the american people weighed in on this. he has overwhelming support in this country right now. he will be elected again. he was our 40 fifth president, best president we ever had in this country and he will be our 47th president again. i want to say this whole process should not be necessary. what happened in this country is an absolute disgrace and i want to thank matt for your courage to bring this forward and to reiterate to the american people this is not the way we operate in this country and with that i turn it over to matt rosendale. >> good afternoon, thank you for being here. nice to see the press participate in some fruit that is being spread around the capital because many times we got a lot of rhetoric and misinformation that gets spread. i really appreciate matt gaetz
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and elise stefanik, getting on the record the people that support donald trump that understand and are willing to declare that there was not an insurrection that took place on january 6th. i was here. many of my colleagues were here. weed to witness and know that it was not an insurrection. donald trump did not engage in an insurrection on january 6th as shown by multiple courts which have dismissed the bogus charges. this is nothing more than election interference. it is on full display and we would appreciate if the media would start coming forward and admitting to that. it should be just as easy for congress to pass this resolution as it is for the court to dismiss those cases or as i like to say if we were trying to pass a resolution to spent another several billion
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dollars to help, say, ukraine, may be then, we could get everybody in congress lined up to support the resolution because those go through pretty fast. let's get everybody on this now so that we can put out in the public sphere that congress does recognize that there was not an insurrection that took place on january 6th just as the courts have already put in the record. whether the charges were brought in michigan or minnesota they have been dismissed. i look forward to the supreme court doing the same thing, so that we can be on with this removal of him from different ballots. i stood with donald trump since the beginning including one i've voted against the electors on january 6th after numerous credible allegations of election fraud were shared with
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us, after numerous allegations of state of officials changing the election process without legislative approval. those are the facts, folks. and the electors act gave us the ability, gave us the directive to refuse to accept those electors if we didn't feel that they were properly awarded. so myself and i would say everyone here that's not a freshman voted against the electors from arizona. and we voted against the electors from pennsylvania. because that information and those facts were there and the facts again, clear and as i always say the truth isn't always pretty but it is always the truth, the truth will prevail. it will be shown that donald trump did not cause this insurrection and once again we can eliminate this election interference that has been conducted upon him for so long.
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i appreciate your time and i would like to introduce my good friends from missouri, representative eric burlison. >> thank you to representative gaetz and elise stefanik for leading this resolution. this town started the witchhunt the moment donald trump was elected. it began through every part of the peach state in this town and through you, the media. from the russian collusion hoax to then there was the phone call, which was ironically the very thing that an administration not to be looking at, what we are looking at today which is corruption by the previous administration ukraine. it is sad that we have to do the job you are supposed to be doing in the press. and that is why the american people are frustrated and as you can imagine that is why many of them came to their
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nation's capital in frustration, not just at what they saw happening in the election process but because they are frustrated with you, the media, who they felt they couldn't trust anymore. they are in the capital and what is ironic, not one of them was armed. i come from missouri where a lot of people are armed. not one of the people up here was armored. i don't know how you are going to take over the capital if you are not armed. it's ridiculous to say someone with face paint and bison horns is here to take over the capital. in missouri in the missouri capital we have protesters come in all the time. we would call what happened on that day or wednesday in the missouri capital. we welcome free-speech. we welcome people telling us what we should be doing, how to
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vote, letting people express their frustration peacefully through the elective process and their first amendment rights. as our founders said. if they can't do it through that process they will do it through a more violent process. it is your job in the press to uphold those first amendment rights, it is your job to make sure people's rights are being taken away. people have trust in you and this government. at the end of the day, you can't say that trump was involved in insurrection when there was no insurrection. it is ridiculous that this place continues to clutch pearls towards an individual who represents the interests of most people in this country, most hard-working blue-collar americans in this country that love their country. >> my good buddy from georgia,
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representative mike collins. >> thank you. this is my first term in congress. i spent the last 30 years in the private sector. i know what it felt like during the obama years to see a far left swing and overreach by the federal government. i was also on the other side of the ledger and saw what it felt like when the trump administration put america first, put money back in their pocket and gave them their power back. you see, hillary clinton was supposed to complete the mission of obama. trump stood in the way and gave that power back to the people. that is one hundred% while when trump came down the escalator to announce he was going to run that they were worried and scared about that. they knew what could happen if he won. that's why they spent years
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trying to destroy him personally, destroy his business, even destroy his family. the only thing this guy did was disagree with the results of the election in 2020. he didn't call for violence but you see the left-wing media and the left-wing in this country are out to not just make an example of trump, they want to make sure anybody else that steps up, that has that america first agenda, that never get tired of winning, you are going to think about running for this position, look what we did to trump, look what we did to his family, look at what we did to regular americans that just came appear to peacefully protest and express their opinion about an election. the only thing the democrats have right now and what this president has is in america last. we are not feared in the world.
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our enemies don't fear us. our county is in shambles. inflation is sky high. what have we got to do now. get trump off that ballot by any means necessary. this resolution right here is where the house of representatives, we are taking a stand, we are going to declare what is self-evident and that is donald trump did not engage in insurrection or rebellion on january 6th and i'm proud to stand here with 60 of my colleagues to do that. with that i would like to yield some time to a good buddy of mine out of arizona. representative eli crum. >> thank you for coming. it's an honor to be here. thank you for leading on this. you know what i love about this, watching where donald trump is in the polls. i love it because it shows the
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american people don't trust you guys and they shouldn't because you guys are full of it and everybody knows it. there's a few honest journalists in this town but very few and far between. you know how i know it wasn't in insurrection? because he hasn't been charged with insurrection. we can all see by the lawaffair, facing 700 years in jail right now. how they tried to destroy this man, destroy his businesses. if they felt they had an inkling of a chance of convicting donald trump of jaywalking or insurrection they would absolutely charge them. you know how else i know it's not insurrection? because this is the first insurrection in the history of the world where the people that were part of it were unarmed. pretty hard to do if you walk around and see how many individuals are carrying firearms. last thing i want to say how i know it's not insurrection is because i listened to the words of the president. if you're trying to stoke in insurrection you don't tell the
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people listening i want you to go over there peacefully and patriotically. this is not an insurrection. what it is is a party that scared to death of this man because he is america first it has shown time and again he is willing to bust up the swamp and continues to be you like a drum. that is what this is really about. for are you journalists out there that are pretty cowardly number some in this room right now, you don't have the balls to write the truth that even if you did your publishers wouldn't publish it because you are part of the propaganda outlet, probably one of the biggest in the history of the world, if you had any courage i want you to ask some questions about that day january 6th that we keep talking about. why is the pipe bomb are not caught yet? why has the pipe, not been cut, the one individual that could have committed multiple mass casualties is not been caught yet.
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go follow some of the media's reporting at revolver news, you have a phone some evidence for you guys can what's going on here was january 6th is there's a pretty big cover-up going on up here and capitol hill about some of the involvement of our government, it is quite unsavory. i want to acknowledge representative massey's work on this and others trying to get to the bottom of it. here are some other questions for you journalists to ask. why did it take so long for ray's to be solved? watch videos of how he was stoking the entire thing. so many people were brought into the dc jail and still there to this day we know donald trump did not commit
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insurrection and is probably going to be the president once again. i'm happy to be part of this resolution and to call out all you little cowardly liars in the press. thank you. i want to now welcome my friend harriet going down the list, you thought i was bad. i want to welcome miss anna paulina luna. >> to follow-up on what representative crane said, we have the ability to find terrorists in caves in the middle east but you can't find someone who planted a pipe bomb. we have evidence that the government helped cover up what was happening and i would point all of you to the oversight where we questioned twitter, we saw under the department of
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homeland security, not only to suppress information, to include the president's statement to remain peaceful on january 6th, nowhere on social media, these outlets weather was google, twitter, they are all working to suppress that information but i wonder why they would want to do that. it's because this president is a man that is outside the dc control and that's why every single person appear has endorsed him for reelection and he is going to win in november but i want to ask if you think you we should be charging hillary clinton with insurrection, someone like stacy abrams with insurrection, they claim they won elections, hillary clinton was full of it, we saw that come out, you saw them censor adam schiff over, there was no evidence of russia collusion was what we seen the last couple years is not only been depressing as a member of congress to witness how much people have used that narrative not just to smear donald trump, but i applaud what representative gaetz has done
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and i will save those sociopaths that push this lie once we have this on the floor if you continue to push this you guys are all going to be guilty of breaching house privileges because we are saying it didn't happen and have evidence to back up, think on that for a little bit. without further ado i will my good friend cory mills from florida. >> thank you so much. i want to point out a couple obvious statements. these of been out there from the very beginning. one is right here. you want to talk about inciting violence, inciting in insurrection, you want to talk about promoting violence. right here you got kamala harris who is actually trying to raise funds for the very people who are setting fire to our cities in 2,020. why don't we look at minneapolis, seattle, new york, baltimore, why don't we look at what was being encouraged, maxwell waters who said we need
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to be more confrontational or nancy pelosi who sped i'm surprised there's not more people out in the streets rioting. let's look at what donald trump said, he said the use events that happened when a sacred land has an election victory is unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly and unfairly treated for so long, go home with love and in peace. remember this day forever. the media did remember this day forever, so did the left who continue to try develop 5 something that it is not. let me be clear. donald trump did not incite violence. this was not an insurrection. if this is an insurrection what about the pro-hamas members who sit in our capital and disrupt legislation, what just happened last week, was then in insurrection. it was an armed group that was disrupting federal legislative process, that is what everyone in the media and the left
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continues to try to claim but the bottom line is that it was never about policing and it was all about politics. this is election interference, this is trying to remove someone they know will be the president of the united states, someone who has the 40 fifth, 40 sixth, will be the 40 seventh president of the united states, this is about can attack his family. by claiming there was a false narrative set up for fraud regarding the valuation of his property in mar-a-lago which 20 years ago was valued higher than they claim it is today. this is lawaffair whether it is fans about i willis or the agr the department of injustice, the bottom line is this was never about trying to prosecute the president and all about trying to have him removed for election interference. let me be clear.
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the united states house of representatives stand strongly and firmly behind the president. we will not allow the lies out of the media and the left to continue on and i am honored to stand here and support my good friend and colleague, representative matt gaetz and our chairwoman, elyse stefanik to put it to bed that he did not lead in insurrection. what he did was stood for the american people and i will stand for him. with that i will turn this over to my good friend from texas. >> thank you. you've heard here the hypocrisy, the 2-tier justice system. i want to share a story with you. four women from my district traveled on january 6th to the national mall, they were nowhere near the capital. they saw the smoke, didn't even
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know what was going on. they went home, three of them put on social media pictures in their account, one did not. guess which three were visited by the fbi. we've heard a lot about section 3 of the 14th amendment as they've attacked donald trump. what you are not looking at is section 5 of the 14th amendment that specifically in the constitution gives the congress the ability to act on this. look at section 5 and i will tell you as we go through this, we want a nation of the people, by the people and for the people rather than a nation of media, by media, a trial of and for the media. this shall not stand. i'm proud to stand here with my friends, representative gaetz
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and stefanik. i introduced dan webster. >> i can't say much more than has been said. however there was an event i attended that no one in congress, no staff, no one except myself, most of the rest are dead, that was in 2000, there was another ballot question. it was in florida and it was bush versus palm beach county canvassing board and that decision, 5-numfour decision, it was the court, the court decided that what was done was wrong. they told the supreme court of florida they were wrong, told them to modify their decision based on the decision, this decision was. because of that, the things
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that were done, especially in the senate and house, voting and objecting to the results, that was allowed. it was talked about in that case, the reason nobody brought that up is because nobody knew about it. the only one that did was justice thomas and justice -- let's see, one another, one other, i guess the one that came in was bush because he wouldn't have been there had it not gone that way. so all i can tell you is that case said if anything was done in the election, done after the fact, done without the permission of the state legislature was invalid. that was fair ruling. it wasn't like i said. it wasn't the 5-numfour decision. ginsberg was there.
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so was scalia. they both agreed. because it was the right thing. unfortunately, i tried -- i called the president and speaker of the house of pennsylvania and minnesota and wisconsin and other places, arizona called me and gave them all the details and said you are right but we don't have the courage to say this election is wrong, can't do it so they didn't. all i know is donald trump is innocent. and that has been proven by the courts. thank you. matt gaetz, for doing what you are doing. >> are you bringing this to approve. resolution towards a vote? >> in its current form it is not privileged but i know that
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our leadership upholds flow views of what we are pushing. >> have you received any assurances from the speakership that they will talk to johnson about it? >> i sat next to him for 7 years in the judiciary committee so i'm sure of where it stands. >> what did -- >> he was thrilled so many members signed on. it is incredible that 63 original cosponsors, anything, donald trump was heartened by supporters who are backing on legislative endeavor. >> the former president was acquitted on this, so what makes this different? >> the house of representatives has a special and unique voice here. i don't believe the efforts of lawaffair 5 out of 10 bureaucrats and states have concluded. i think they will persist in a different form or fashion. the fact that the house would stand and say we assert our sense that this was not an insurrection could have legal
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significance as well as significance for the bottom. >> talk about why hundreds of trump supporters did attack the capital and fight police that day if it wasn't donald trump wanting them to do that? was at the fbi manipulating them? what happened? >> we tried to get those answers. one of the most searing pieces of evidence we developed was george hill, former fbi official whistleblower said that he couldn't get information out of the washington field office regarding cases they were pushing out to boston because the washington field office said they had so many confidential human sources that were in the group that they wouldn't share that information, when there were follow-up questions directed at christopher wray, merrick garland, those in the house and senate, they got squarely as to whether or not those federal assets had increased the level of criminal acuity. as mr. biggs said during his remarks there were people who were
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violent at that riot and they should not have been but that's a very different things than declaring that donald trump engaged in an insurrection. he wasn't here, he said he wanted people to be peaceful and patriotic, insurrection isn't a term we interacted with frequently before getting to congress. if you never heard about the insurrection on the little league board, because it has legal significance it has been lashed to donald trump unfairly and that is -- >> the field office, he testified in a deposition they did not send anybody to be part of that crowd. there might have been people who had been trailing folks from other states who came here but they didn't do anything. >> it came as no surprise to us the washington field office didn't confess to their own actions and cover-up but there is contravening evidence that was presented by whistleblowers saying it was the washington field office, they were able to
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cite specific phone calls, conversations, conference calls where a different sentiment was expressed. >> we know why you don't think he's guilty of insurrection but forgive me of this is off topic but is he guilty of adding trillions to the national debt and how do you convey that from the campaign trail? >> this is a press conference about the insurrection measure. i would note that during donald trump's time of the economy was growing tremendously so we were focused on the growth that must be a feature of our deficit and debt reduction strategies and many of the colleagues gathered here working to put downward pressure on spending and we wish he had a willing partner in the white house and the senate to do so, that is created some of our challenges. >> when house voted to impeach donald trump for inciting an insurrection in 2021, ten republicans joined in that measure. can you see democrats fall on this? >> if they follow the fact and law they would be with us but
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the whispers from those 10 voices get softer and softer by the day. >> your colleagues. >> 200 that won't get you into a starting lineup much less the hall of fame. >> i was a democrat. that is one of the reasons i changed parties. >> can you see yourself asking if they will do anything or if they have investing going on regarding the pipe bombers that day. >> we've been in a number of conversations with capital police and the doj regarding the pipe bomber. we just learned last week that the capital police fessed up to the fact that was a plainclothes capital police officer who found the pipe bomb as mister crane indicated. thomas mastery built video evidence around that and it seemed to be that people were eating sandwiches and watching children walk by and the vice president was steps away and there didn't seem to be the
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type of concern and response you would have if there was a fear there might be an explosion there. there is still a mystery there with the pipe bomber but certainly we've seen in pleadings the government used the pipe bomb as a mechanism to enhance punishment and sentencing for people that in fact it was a bit of a ruse that was unfair. >> did you want to add to what congressman boebery and greene said? >> i would never try to do that. >> the resolution, why go ahead with this resolution rather than the funding resolution? >> speaking to insurrection specifically has greater legal utility than the expungement of an impeachment because you have
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unelected bureaucrats trying to use the term insurrection in a very tortured and undemocratic way. the expungement of the impeachment is something i would support but has different legal effect. >> is there a practical implication that this helps trump legally? >> it would be incredibly helpful legally if we were to adopt this provision. i've been the victim of federal crimes. i know what it is like when prosecutors consult the victim to understand what the victim's expectations are. if we are the purported victim in congress and saying this is not an insurrection that would hold. >> are you hoping the supreme court will weigh in on this resolution if it comes to a vote and secondly isn't this resolution also a way of testing loyalty of house republicans or support to donald trump if it comes to a vote? >> i don't know that the supreme court has a mechanism
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to address a sense of congress resolution. there are legal matters working their way to the court and our expectation is the court will not embrace the antidemocratic impulses we have seen elsewhere and whether or not this is a loyalty test to donald trump i will leave to the members and donald trump to determine. this meeting has become an insurrection but i will give you the last -- >> is this a nonbinding resolution? if you're worried about the legality, article 14 does provide a way for congress to do that on the ballot, the 2-party vote, why not pursue that? >> the best is yet to come. thank you all so much. >> last december the colorado supreme court rule donald trump ineligible to aon the state's prt will ballot for a violation of the u.s. constitution insurrection
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