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professor gardner, i appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. and thanks for joining u.s. the news continues right now on cnn happening now, breaking news. and exclusive new sierra, an interview with president joe biden he's explaining the decision to pause some u.s bombs shipments to israel as new israeli military strikes around raffa are raising urgent concerns let many more civilians in gaza will be killed. also tonight, the president and his calling out donald trump and a crucial swing state unveiling a new economic investment on the same site where a trump-backed project failed. >> plus breaking news up on capitol hill right now, the house of representatives just voted to kill republican marjorie taylor greene's attempt to oust the speaker, mike johnson the gop leadership moving swiftly against her motion, this fight apparently being caught off guard welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the
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world. i'm wolf blitzer, a urine. the situation room the skis, cnn breaking news we begin this hour with breaking news from president biden's exclusive the new cnn interview. >> we're about to release a new portion of his conversation with cnn's erin burnett. she's in wisconsin where the president had events earlier today hey aaron's joining u.s. now from the walkie with details, erin, i know you press the president on a wide range of topics, including what's going on in israel and gaza right now the latest on the united states is military support for israel. tell u.s what he said well, if he had a lot to say on israel and the bottom line in his, he was very clear. >> he said were walking away from israel's ability to wage war and population centers very strong words he said four bb as he called the prime minister
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benjamin netanyahu and his war cabinet in terms of this incursion into rafah that is going on as we speak. let me just play a crucial part of our conversation. station for you, wolf i want to ask you about something happening as we sit here and speak and that of course is israeli striking raffa. i know so that you have paused, mr. president shipments of 2000 pound u.s bombs to israel due to concern that they could be used in any offensive on raffa have those bombs, those powerful 2000 pound bombs, been used to kill civilians in gaza civilians have been killed in gaza is a consequence of those bombs and other where in which they go after population centers. >> i made it clear that if they go into rafah, they haven't gotten rough yet. they go into rafah i'm not applying the weapons that have been used historically deal with rafah a deal with the city's, a deal with that problem we're going to continue to make sure israel
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are secure in terms of iron dome and your ability to respond to attacks like mld, you the least recently. but it's assist wrong. we're not gonna we're not gonna supply the weapons and jewelry shells use that. have been used, artillery shells as well. yeah, i totally shelf. so just to understand what they're doing right now, rafah is that not going into rafah as you don't they haven't gotten in the population centers where they did is right on the border and it's causing problems with right now in terms of egypt, which i've worked very hard to make sure we have a relationship help but i've made it clear to bb in the war cabinet they're not going to get our support. >> if in fact they go on these population centers well, if very significant there what he said because obviously the question that we asked was very
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direct. have american bombs, those powerful 2000 pound bombs that they've divide administration is now paused a shipment of two israel have they been used? >> to kill civilians? and his answer, there was very direct. you did not be around the bush wolf civilians have been killed in gaza as a consequence of those bombs. and he went on to make it clear that there would be more pauses that the us would not provide weapons to go after these population centers. of course, palestinian say that more than 35,000 people have been killed already and saying that artillery shells would also potentially be halted in terms of the shipments, if israel continues here. so very strong words from the president and very clearly moving the needle from where he has been on this issue thus far very strong where it's very blunt words indeed, aaron, what did the president and say about getting his overall message, including his economic message, to resonate better with voters. he's in wisconsin, a key battleground state so when he was here actually for a
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groundbreaking at a facility that trump had made huge fanfare. it was a foxconn deal and trump and promise 13,000 jobs really only only about thousand of them as materialize. so biden obviously wanted that split-screen of coming back to the same place and doing a totally a different investment. it says that's gonna be 100,000 people trained in ai. and this facility, it was a partnership with microsoft. they were announcing, but when we talked about the situation with the economy, wolf and some of the challenges out there the persistent inflation, the week consumer confidence, the economic growth numbers that have fallen short of expectations, the president was defiant he acknowledged some of these things, but said that he has done a lot. he has created jobs and was very much sticking with the message that he has had on the economy. so wolfe, a lot of very important things we talked to about they're also though he talked about the election. he talked about why he thinks he is a much better ground game than donald trump and must-win states like the one where i am right now, wisconsin wolf, one thing he said though it will play the full clip later, but he said
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that he promises that donald trump will not accept the outcome of the election if he loses interesting erin burnett, excellent work is thank you very much. and to our viewers, you can see all of errands, exclusive interview with president biden on outfront that air is at the top of the hour, 7:00 p.m. eastern on erin burnett out front let's get some more on this story. it's an important development in deed. i want to bring in our chief international correspondent clarissa ward but she's joining u.s. live from jerusalem. we're also joined by our chief national security correspondent, alex bark, where he's here in washington. alex, they'll let me start with you. give u.s. some more context on those blunt, and very important comments from president of biden that we just heard. what message is the biden administration sending to the israeli government well, if i think think these are very significant comments and could represent a major shift in the level of u.s. >> support for israel. you could hear the frustration and president biden's voice there about how is it? israel has carried out their campaign in gaza. what they may have, what they may intend to do and
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rafah, he said, it is just wrong. so i think the message from the united states tonight could not be clear. if you are going to go into rafah, into those population centers we are going to cut you off and he specified the kinds of weaponry that could be cut off from israel those large bombs that are dropped from the sky, the artillery he also talked about the administration has mentioned today that shipment that was held up in the past few days secretary of state lloyd austin, secretary defense, rather confirming that this big bombs, 2000 pounds, 500 pounds bombs that were going to be sent to israel had been held up some 3,500 of them. so this is a significant shift, the administration making a strong differentiation between offensive and defensive weapons. the threat now that the us could cut off israel with offensive white rep, but making clear that they do continue to help israel defend itself for the iron dome iron dome system and against the kinds of attacks that we saw
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from iran. a couple of weeks ago, wolf important clarissa, you're there in jerusalem for u.s. so far are president biden's words, can you tell having any impact at all on the israeli government well, privately, we're hearing that officials have been voicing some consternation about this publicly. >> they've been more diplomatic and circumspect. we did see the israeli ambassador to the u.n. on israeli television calling this decision or this pause very frustrating. he also said it was very disappointing. he acknowledged allege the political realities that president biden is facing. but i think the real question wolf becomes, does prime minister benjamin netanyahu take this off? i'm board? how does he respond to this? very clear and very public and very pointed rebuke because in the past we have seen every time the biden and mr. ration tries to take a tougher line with israel that hasn't necessarily elicited
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the response that they would like to see from benjamin netanyahu's government. and we are seeing satellite late images, new satellite images, wolf coming in that show a larger ground operations outside of rafah muster areas along the border. we've heard from israeli officials before that this is also being used. they're calling it by the way, a of surgical counterterror operation. but we've also heard that this is being used to try to put pressure on hamas to try to extract more leverage at the negotiating table, but no question. this is a crucial time in the relationship between these two close allies. >> well, absolutely right. and alex another extremely sensitive issue right now, the biden administration, as you know, is facing a deadline to say if israel is actually violating international law, what's the latest? >> well, this is an important report that secretary of state antony blinken is supposed to deliver to congress determining whether israel israel has been falling. international humanitarian law, whether
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they've been allowing international aid in and either way it goes, it could have major ramifications. if he says that no, they have not been following international humanitarian law, then that could have consequences for the kind of military aid that we've been talking about being sent to israel. he said, but if he says that yes, they have been falling international humanitarian law there will be how goals from democrats in congress for human rights groups, from a growing number of people all across this country who believed that israel is violating international law. now, this report was poster come out today. the state department spokesman said it will happen in the coming days. i spoke with the senior u.s. official who said they want to make clear that this is not just a box checking exercise size that they are putting a lot of thought into this. and that when they delivered this report, finally, that it has all the proper context to explain the determination that they're making well alex mark where clarissa ward thanks to both of you very much an important story indeed, just ahead of president biden's new
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remarks to cnn about israel and the us are likely to play with voters, are political experts are standing by plus, we're going to take you inside the house, vote that just stopped representative marjorie taylor greene in her tracks, chilling or bid to try to oust the speaker, mike jones sick, you know, the story, but there's mold, but the surgeons, how it really happened with jesse hello, martin. sunday's at nine on cnn you know, i spent a lot of time thinking about dirt at three in the morning. and he time what people don't know. >> is that not all? holder is the same. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. >> look at this new organic soil from miracle grow, everybody should have it, it worked great for u.s. >> this is as good as gold in any garden if people only knew that it really is about the dirt, your dirt nerd huge turret nerd i'm proud of it
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developed among a lot of democrats, the democratic party. >> i think it might do a little the question is, how long? >> this lasts because i think the left in the democratic party would want it to last a long time. this is a very public rebuke from the president of the united states. there have been lots of whispers and lots of private conversations about how the president was worried about what was going to happen in rafah. but there's been nothing like this. and the president of the united states saying he's stopping these shipments is quite a big step. the question is, for the left, i think how long and also for the israelis, how long will this go on for? and we don't know the answer to that yet the president wants made it very clear here wants to protect civilians and that the israelis don't have a history of doing that. and i think you could see his frustration in his conversation with erin or blood
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it's not every day, yes. united states pauses and shipping critically needed are an ally. yeah, very significant. ashley, at the end, let's talk a little bit about if the biden campaign to prevent israel to stop israel from going in with a major military operation into rafah in southern gaza fails and the israelis don't heed his warnings and there have been repeated over the past several days. what's going to happen? >> i mean, this the president has to be in the most challenging position i've ever seen him on any particular issue. he's between a rock and a hard place. i mean, the issue here is that his interests are in direct conflict with that of netanyahu but here's three things that i think the president knows. one is foreign policy does not sway a national election to american sentiment is on his side. the american people support israel, but three politically, the most important one i think he's got to stop the bleeding immediately. so he's desperate to try to get a ceasefire, make some progress on a ceasefire to your point, he is withholding
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these arms as leverage, but now you're hearing mcconnell and other republicans that are now starting to weigh in on the issue that are really going to i think potentially apply some pressure to the president to release the arm. so that's going to compound the president's situation. so it's really pretty impressed possible situation right now for the president. >> well, i think to ashley's point, i think one of the things about foreign policy in a political context is you want a president to have a sense of clarity and a sense of resolve. and i think one of the problems that the president has now with this move is that it does call into question whether or not he has the strategy and a unity, a unified strategy here, we've watched admirable admiral kirby say many times that the us and israel are lockstep right now, that there's no daylight between u.s. on strategy, this shows that there's some daylight that becomes problematic for the president. i think he isn't a very tough position shania, i don't think the politics plays to his place, to his favor here. >> really sensitive moment and
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us-israeli, nothing on this though, his favor as you know, gloria, the president, wasn't a wisconsin today the key battleground state specifically went to the same site, exact same site where trump what, six years ago touted a new manufacturing plant that he was promoting were showing some video of that. listen to what president biden said today about that. listen to this hey administration promised to $10 billion. excellent by foxconn to build new manufacturing complex, create 13,000 new jobs in fact, he came here with your senator ron johnson, literally holding a golden shovel, promising to build the eighth wonder of the world. a dug a hole those goal and shovels and then they fell into it. foxconn turned out to be just that a calm go figure he clearly seemed to be enjoying needling trump at this sensitive moment, right? >> yes. but he's got problems
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of his own on the economy, right? and so i think that he's needling donald trump saying, look this project went nowhere. my projects on my infrastructure plan are being built but you can't deny the trouble the white house is having. getting the public onboard with the notion that the economy is improving, which in fact it is but it's very difficult for them right now because, you know, 34% of the american public according to our recent polls, say that current economic conditions are really poor. >> you, he said in his remarks today, actually that erin burnett in an exclusive interview to erin burnett, he said he has vanished during his years in the way to turn the economy around? >> yes. >> how does he get that message across to voters? >> well, i think that's, that's these events like and wisconsin, you've got the vice president that's traveling around the country as well on the economic tour. so they're really throwing everything
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they've got at a cabinet, cabinet secretaries, the whole of the party, they're now in vetting millions because there's not responded. >> well, i think i've been in politics long enough and maybe kevin has a different opinion, but i've been in politics long enough to know that the economy is never as great as everybody would like for it to be. >> i always want more money. i never have enough money, right? just to kinda the similar with crime and safety, it's you never feel safe enough so but but the president is absolutely right. we have the strong fungus economy in the world. he's created 15 million jobs record low unemployment. i think he's just going to have to keep doing more and more of what they're doing, which is barnstorming, going around the country and making the case in a very localized way. i mean, he's in ransom today and you he quoted numbers that he created 4,000 jobs on the ground. there donald trump loss of thousand jobs. there was i thought it was interesting that trump is clearly the presumptive republican presidential nominee but there was a republican primary in indiana last night. >> nikki haley, listen to this. she's not even running anymore. nikki haley, look at this she got more than 21% of
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the republican vote in indiana nikki haley dropped out. what, more than two months ago, but she's had similar strong performances in some other recent states as well. what does that say about trump? >> well, it says that there are a lot of republican holdouts out there in previous elections. lot of these republicans showed up and they sort of held their nose and voted for trump. they may not like him. they may not like his message. they may have different candidate that they prefer. but trump is now the nominee and they have to have this choice now, they're not, they're gonna show up in november. so this is that shows the challenge that donald trump has is he's gotta get these republicans that are holdouts right now to come out in november it also presents an opportunity to biden, knowing that there are these folks out there, that they're still holding their nose and they're not willing to support trump. what can they do, do to go and get them? voters really care about inflation? yeah, and in many cases where they're suburban women voters, they care about the issue of abortion. so i expect to hear on a lot of those issues being
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focused on america her trump's said he didn't care about nikki haley's voters he did. but now he will not. >> the message that you want for a swing voter you don't care about exactly, right, guys, thanks very, very much. >> good discussion coming up. there's breaking news up. on capitol hill house republican marjorie taylor greene i'm tries and quickly fails big time to oust the speaker mike johnson when the genes came out, i thought, oh, my god i've has a friend. >> he expects blind loyalty are going to be two prizes have surprises planet fitness you can get energy without the its bobby from iron flag. >> hey, we interest you in upgrading to muscle or lee for 99, 99 i just got the go ahead from my manager to double upgrade you for 14999. >> how many neck fast. >> this is better get a membership that fits your budget.
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the latest the vote was overwhelmingly against her proposal, 359243 yeah. >> this is a resounding defeat for marjorie taylor greene after weeks of threatening to move ahead with this vote to oust mike johnson from the speakership one time. there's only been one other time in american history. well, this has happened successfully that happened with kevin mccarthy in the fall, much different this time, because democrats came to my johnson defense, something they did not do it in the fall when eight republicans joined with democrats to kick out mccarthy data it was led by republicans, different because in part of mike johnson's dealmaking, the same dealmaking has gotten me in hot water with marjorie taylor greene and is far right way up democrats in particular are happy with the doc cut when it came to ukraine aid $61 billion in aid to ukraine. marjorie taylor greene was furious, ultimately day she decided to take advantage of the fact that one member can call for a vote to oust the speaker. she did that on the floor and then there was a procedural vote to kill it. and in that procedural vote, that's where it went down to
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the vote wolf 359240396, republicans voted to kill it. 163 democrats also voted to kill the word 32 democrats who wanted to advance this measure, 11 republicans also wanted advanced measures those republicans mostly on the far right of the republican conference immediately afterwards, mike johnson came out and he urged his conference to, unite after months of disarray in bitter infighting it we need to get beyond it the speaker of the house serves the whole house. >> that's the job so, one person who did come to my job is defense, was former president donald trump. >> in fact, right before the vote, he put out a statement on his social media page saying that republicans should kill this ever. he called for unity as part of this is the first time he's come out publicly to say that marjorie taylor greene's effort should not go forward. so you're seeing a major split within the far-right of the republican conference. this time might donald trump, citing with my
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johnson, he did say though in that same message, perhaps later down the road, things could change. we'll see how marjorie taylor greene, the size approaches in the months ahead. but there is no appetite among most republicans for any sort of internal fighting. after we've seen this play out since last october when kevin mccarthy was kicked out and the republican agenda getting stymied, unable to move legislation for months amid this finger-pointing and back biting and name-calling members primary against each other and now trying to kick out the second speaker of this congress. but this ever now failing after this bipartisan majority rejected margin betweens efforts to move ahead and kick out my kick them out from the speakership failed big big time. manu raju. thank you very much. your, we're also following new moves right now by donald trump's legal team in his hush money criminal trial, trump's lawyers are now asking a new york appeals court to expedite his challenge of the judge's gag order against we're also learning the defense plans are more extensive cross-examined examination of stormy daniels
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than originally planned when she returns to the stand in new york tomorrow. cnn's kara scannell has been in court every day of the trial. qarrah joining u.s right now, qarrah, new york appeals court just responded to trump's latest filing what did they say? >> 30 appeals court is saying that both sides, donald trump's team and the manhattan district attorney's office have to have all their briefs in by may 20 that suggests that this appeal will not be decided before the verdict in this case is out. so it seems unlikely that the appeals court is going to rule on the gag order in that time but if this challenge does come in the middle of stormy daniels testimony and the gag order prohibits donald trump from making any comments about any witnesses in this case. and the judge has already found that trump has violated that gag order ten times, and he chastise donald trump yesterday in court when trump was seen visibly shaking his head and response to her testimony, and the judge said he heard him utter some curses. so the timing here is
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interesting. as daniels, will be back on the stand tomorrow for more cross-examination. trump's team has really focused their questions. i'm trying to undercut her credibility and to challenge her motivations, saying that she was after money and that she was trying to extort donald from now, they did about 90 minutes of cross yesterday. they will have more of an opportunity tomorrow. how far they go and how much they push her on some inconsistencies in her statements remains to be seen because it does have the possibility of opening the door for prosecutors to get in more details about her night with donald trump and what followed kara scannell in new york for u.s. thank you. coming up, how donald trump's trial delay strategy is actually working. again this time in the georgia election subversion case adult film star stormy daniel's revealed salacious details about the former president during her first danielle, a witness stand. what can we expect on de two of her cross-examination? the trump hush money trial tomorrow at
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representative marjorie taylor greene's motion to try to oust him as speaker. >> take a listen that to some of those remarks i'm glad that this distraction is not going to inhibit that important work and all the other things that are on the table and on the agenda for u.s. right now, hopefully this is the end of the personality politics and the frivolous character assassination that has defined 118th congress. it's regrettable, it's not who we are as americans and we're better than this. we need to get we're going to keep you updated with any more new developments also tonight, a potential setback for the prosecution of donald trump in georgia, a state appeals court has agreed to consider if district attorney fani willis should be disqualified. hi, from the election subversion case, trump and his co-defendants are appealing a judge's ruling, allowing fani willis to stay on the case brian tatas joining u.s. right now, brian trump scoring and other win in his efforts to delay delay, delay, right wolf, he has now been successful with
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that tactic. tactic in three of his four criminal trials. tonight hi to it seems likely that those three cases will not reach the courtroom before election day there's not much mystery to donald trump's longstanding legal strategy. >> delay, delay, delay. donald trump has never seen a delay that he doesn't like in a court case against him in all four criminal cases against him, cases in which he's pleaded not guilty. the former president and his legal teams have filed motion after motion to bob weave and flat-out slowed down all the trials. just today in the georgia case where he's accused of attempting to subvert the 2020 the election results. the state's court of appeals said it will consider trump's continued efforts to disqualify district attorney fani willis from the proceedings because of the controversy surrounding her past romantic relationship with fellow prosecutor, nathan wade. willis has said she wants that trial to begin in august.
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>> that is looking doubtful at the moment to say the least. >> in the so-called mar-a-lago case, where trump's accused of mishandling classified documents and hindering the government's efforts to recover them. judge, aileen cannon, who was appointed by trump, has just postpone the trial indefinitely. judge cannon had originally scheduled that trial to start this month. but right now, there are nearly a dozen issues before her that she has yet to rule on she has sat in her office apparently paralyzed from ruling on easily resolvable motions. cannon has scheduled two hearings for june on what had been considered long-shot motions from trump won on trump's request for records from the biden administration. the other on trump's claims that special counsel jack smith, the lead prosecutor in the mar-a-lago case, was appointed unlawfully. i seriously doubt this one is going to win, but once again, it's an example of an opportunity to slow things down then there's the january 6 election subversion case against trump, also brought by jack smith. trump claims he had
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as presidential immunity in that case, an argument the supreme court is now deciding the validity of, but one that the high court may take. it's time to rule on. >> they could last till the end of june and i think it's gonna be very difficult to get this case to trial, even if they decided it tomorrow it's just not likely to get this to many other things that can happen. and trump is a master of delay and delay is on his sayyed so why the delay tactic by trump? >> analysts say if trump gets elected again, he would have the power as president to order the justice department to drop the january 6 case and the mar-a-lago case because those are both federal cases, the most likely case to survive against trump if he's elected, is the georgia case, because that is a state proceeding, but it's also open to debate whether that case would survive both our brand tied reporting, brian, thank you. let's get some more on all of this with cnn legal analysts, michael moore and cnn senior crime and justice reporter kaitlan polantz, kaitlan, what the likelihood that the any other
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trial than the current hush money trial that's ongoing in new york, will actually take place before the november election. well, well it's courts, so you never know when it comes to these things, courts can move very fast and all of a sudden there might be a case on the calendar and then it might get taken away or moved very quickly as well. >> so we just won't know until we get a little bit later into the summer. don't bet your life savings on having an additional trial outside of the new york trial before election day and very much so, or having a verdict by that date in early november. >> but if you do step back a minute, even with the georgia case bogged down now with an appeals court situation, the florida documents case with a lot of work for judge aileen cannon been still to get done there. >> is this case in washington, dc that if the supreme court makes a clean ruling against trump, like the other courts have done. there is a real possibility that in that four
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month window from the end of the us supreme court term at the end of june to election day, you could see trial judge tanya chutkan slot this in on the calendar. there isn't that much else to resolve in that case before trial aside from that very significant and wadi and potentially quite complicated presidential immunity question that the supreme court's looking at. >> what happens to the supreme court's on that so far how much of his success these delays has this been for trump and his legal team right now? >> and what are the consequences for the rule of law in our country has all of this unfolds? yeah, well, i'm glad to be with you know, anytime he gets a delay, it's a success for him right now. but i want to sort of juxtapose that with this idea that we've been rushing to try his cases before the election. so this is not normal own either on anybody's part, right? i mean, you would never see this kind of rush to make sure that we get a trial and are four trials him before a certain election day? but he happens to be the
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candidate for president on the republican ticket. so that's different. i mean, it's the same time he then tried to put the brakes on with these various motions. so it's a success for him to delay him. i mean, i do think that's right. that if he were to win the election he'll use his presidential power and the federal cases will go away. that leaves the question of the state case in georgia he wouldn't have the power to pardon himself from that case, but the likelihood that he could go to trial before the end of his term would be nil. i just don't think they're going to make a sitting president go sit in georgia to try a case like this. as it relates to the sort of the whole picture of justice and what we do. i think it probably that and send a great message. i mean, but maybe because people have not always pay attention to these tactics, it's not unusual to appeal cases. it's not unusual to have interlocutory appeals like we're seeing in georgia. it's not unusual to file motions because you have to represent your client but it may not be giving them people the confidence that the system is moving as quickly as they'd like to but michael, when most criminal defendants want to claim their innocence, they
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want to go to trial to clear their name right quickly as possible. they don't want an indictment hanging over them for two. >> that's sometimes the case. i mean, sometimes they find too that the longer they wait and witnesses memories tend to fade witnesses die evidence gets lost. i mean, there's all of reasons that go into strategic decisions about when to schedule a trial. if you're asked for a trial to be scheduled. but this idea somehow that the georgia case would be scheduled in august i mean, i'd like to get the winning lottery ticket and i've got a bad as much chance of a u.s. attorney in the middle district of georgia. but let me ask you a question about what's going on in florida right down the classified documents case, as you know, just how extraordinary is judge aileen cannon his handling of this entire classified documents? >> yeah. i mean, i think she's it's really taken too much time and rubin also motions that she could have ruled on that. that's caused and some people to question or what you find though was critics of judges are critical when they don't go with their side of the case and then they praise them when they do go or they're
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sad okay. so my guess is that she's taken too long. she's she's confronted with the case. she is a fairly new judge confronted with the case of great magnitude. she may be putting too much effort into some of the motions she can have dealt with on short notice in short work. and that's that's given people i think a legitimate reason to question if she just moving too slow and could she have gotten some administrative work done faster basis to launch it? all of these developments, michael moore, katelyn polantz to both of you. thank you very much coming up. we'll have a closer look at the situation in gaza as israel expands military operations in rafah prompting 50,000 palestinians to flee, stay with u.s. you're in the situation oscar pistorius was at the absolute peak of his celebrity in olympic heroes, shocking murder trial, we learned of docker individual how really happen with jesse l. >> martin sunday at nine on cnn
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i'm taylor available on the apple app store or android. >> i'm raju and capitol hill. >> this is sienna tonight the united nations says 50,000 people have already fled the southern gaza city of rafah. >> it just the last 48 hours as the israeli military two ramps
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up operations, i want to bring in cns nada bashir. she's here with me in the situation room for a closer look and not a human doing amazing reporting on gaza for what all of these months that this war has been going on help u.s. better appreciate what the palestinians in rafah, in particular are going through right now. >> well, we've been hearing the warnings some months now from world leaders from u.n. agencies about the devastation that we could see in an alpha considering the significant number of civilians now concentrated in the city. this is the city that many of them were told to evacuate. two, in the initial weeks and months of the war were talking about 1.4 million people, approximately who are currently concentrated in the southern city and the potential for a full-scale ground offensive in rafah has raised huge amounts of consent, considering already the fact that we are seeing a deteriorating humanitarian situation warnings now of an imminent famine and but of course, we've seen those airstrikes on rafah on multiple occasions. this has been going on watch the months now, but the potential for a ground
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offensive could lay huge tragedy amongst these civilians. and as you mentioned, we've already seen tens of thousands fleeing to the n coastal line where of course they have been instructed to go to. but again, that is just tens of thousands around 1.4 million people a half of whom are children. so there is significant concern here. >> so i take it just the talk of this israeli military operation that could begin in a significant way any day now, despite the statements from president biden telling the israelis don't do it, there's enormous fear going on right now and concern how has that affected the humanitarian? situation. >> this is already a deteriorating humanitarian situation. we're hearing now from aid organizations saying that they're going to have to either pause or halt their operations in the rough after world central kitchen certainly has had to take that into consideration. and of course, we have to remember what is a crucial gateway for aid to get in via the egyptian border crossing? we've seen those lines of trucks queuing up on the egyptian side of the crossing that is now extending. and of course, if indeed there
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is a full-scale ground operation that will make it extremely difficult for these aid trucks to get in. we've been hearing those calls for more land crossings to be opened because that is the most effective way of getting aid. it but of course that will make it very difficult for aid agencies to operate on the ground as well because of the security concerns. and as we know, gaza is heading into a famine. so this is certainly raised concern amongst aid organizations and huge amount of fear amongst a civilian to their who are already facing a desperate situation. >> you've reported on what's happening in gaza now for the past seven months since dover seventh, give u.s. the big picture right down how has the situation deteriorated in gaza over these past many months i mean, we've been talking for months now about the deterioration of health care system, the deterioration of hospitals. >> in fact, that there are simply no hospitals left really to provide the full amount of care that is needed. we've been talking about the lack of food supplies getting in. now of course, we're talking about famine seven months on, and it seems that every single warning that we have heard from world leaders, from aid agencies, from humanitarian groups have
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simply been ignored. and of course, the israeli authorities, israeli government have said that they are not hindering access to aid, that they are offering precautions for civilians, of course, offering those evacuation routes. but as we've heard from the biden administration, they don't have any credible plans presented to them for the safe evacuation of protection of civilians in an offer. and what we've seen repeatedly now, over the last seven months as these warnings being ignored and the fact that we've got to this point now a more than 34,000 people have been killed where we're talking about famine, where we're hearing now u.n. agencies, other officials considering and discussing the potential of genocide, that's a huge question. we're talking about that now and that is the language that is now entering discourse when we talk about gaza. that is a huge point of concern. seven months on, we're not near a ceasefire. we're still seeing those negotiations stagnating. and of course, what we are seeing officials in cairo now discussing the potential for a ceasefire with the ceasefire and release of the hostages will look time and time again. >> we've heard that we're reaching a point where perhaps
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there is consensus that there is agreement on both sides on the key points we've heard that sadly from the biden this region and yet time and time again, we've seen this huge sticking points. now, the israeli government has been clear. they don't want to pull out until there is a full destructured a full eradication of hamas hamas has called for the full withdrawal of israeli troops from gaza. they want see a full end to the war that will not happen. of course unless israel satisfied with the fact that they have completely eradicated hamas from gaza, we're seeing me sticking points. and despite the huge concern are on civilians were not seemed to be closer to a full-scale c-spine. of course, we are talking about a pause in fighting initially, that could then lead to a potential full ceasefire. the question of whether that actually happens remains to be seen it's awful situation indeed not about shear. >> welcome to washington. thank you very much for that update appreciate i'd we'll be right back with born this the playoffs what do you see? >> my first step is to print houston charles not winning a championship. >> this tries stay positive or
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