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there has been threats to your speakership back in washington what does it say about your standing as speaker that you are here i columbia university dealing with this issue right now, the speaker of the house is very important constitutional responsibility. it's, it's an officer listed in the constitution. the speaker speaks for the house of representatives and i felt it was very important, important over that voice to be heard, not just about what happens at columbia, but about what is happening right now around the country. and we have to stand unequivocally for the right and the good. and i'm calling on all my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to speak out against this. not to not to endorse it, not to caudal these people, but to say this has stop, we have to treat every single person with dignity and respect and that's not happening here. and it's an atrocity. >> speaker, johnson, thanks very much for your time. thank you thanks for joining us. >> the newest continues now on cnn happening dow breaking
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news, new protests erupted across college campuses here in the united states. as student demonstrations against the israel, hamas war are growing and spreading we're tracking the rising tensions confrontations with police and the political fallout also tonight, the judge had donald trump's hush money trial could decide any time if the former president violated his gag order and whether you should be punished. we're standing by for a potential ruling and looking ahead to the next critical testimony against trump and the us supreme court. here's another historic abortion rights case triggering protests and apparently dividing the justices were going to tell you what stake, as there's also breaking news from arizona on abortion. the state house, they're just voted to repeal a very controversial civil war era ban. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer, a year in the situation room the skis cnn
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breaking news, let's get right to the breaking news. >> the very angry backlash on college campus this is across the united states over the death and destruction in gaza. and the us response to the israel-hamas war. >> student protests intensified in california to new york. >> first, let's go to see an end. shimon prokupecz design the seat for us over at columbia university in new york, shimon, give us the latest well, we'll see university just updated reporters& a press briefing, a saying that first they wanted to knock down baseless rumors that for whatever reason had gotten started, that the national guard would it be moving into the school to remove the encampment? they say that's not true. they also say that some of the tents that at the protesters had built in the encampment have been removed and therefore, they say they're going to continue to talk and
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continue the dialogue for 48 hours. there are hoping to bring this to a peaceful resolution tense pro-palestinian demonstrations are rubbed on college campuses across the us police. clash with students at university of southern california and university of texas in austin on wednesday at ut austin, texas state troopers and riot gear broke up a group of protesters who organize the walkout at usc pushing and shouting and sud as crowds line the streets the escalation follows a week-long protest at columbia university we're demonstrators set up large encampments and more than 100 students were arrested earlier this week for trespassing emotions are high as university president, minouche shafik extended the deadline for negotiations 48 hours, which student organizers over dismantling the encampment's pretty disheartening to see all this on canvas, i will say, i
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think a lot of people are misguided pro-palestinian demonstrators demanding columbia cut all financial ties with israel. our plan is to be hearing till the university divest, disclose provides amnesty for all you can see there are at least 50 to 75 tenths that remain here. many of the students who are part of this movement have been sleeping in the he's tense, have been eating here, adding pressure to the situation. house speaker mike johnson visited campus on wednesday, meeting with jewish students and calling on the university president to resign. >> i am here today joining my colleagues and calling on president trophy to resign if she could not immediately bring order to this chaos enjoy your free speech for months republican lawmakers have called on numerous university leaders to resign as they held congressional hearings on the handling of antisemitism on college campuses while most
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protests have been non-violent some jewish students at columbia are expressing concern for their safety. the& has submitted comments and activity is running ramp i didn't people are saying that there's some of this stuff that's coming out is anti submitted for its anti against jews or is that a fair representation of what's happening here? >> i do not think it's a fair representation of the camera, but that doesn't diminish at all how terrible well and unneeded, unwanted, and how much it should not exist. the antisemitism anywhere in the entire world, columbia university recently shifted to hybrid classes due to safety concerns now allowing the option to attend class and take final exams remotely through the end of the semester. this making a harder to go to classes and everything. i mean, things are switching to be remote last week when students were arrested at columbia, some democrats like representative
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alexandria ocasio-cortez, condemned university officials for involving police she said on x calling and police enforcement on nonviolent demonstrations of young students on campus is an escalatory, reckless, and dangerous act. some republicans like senator tom cotton said there should be more police intervention on campus as university presidents need to ask the mayor and the chief of police in new york to send in new york new york city finest to anyone who's breaking the law and in texas, the governor there, governor greg abbott, issuing a statement following the escalation there. we've seen the several grass being made saying that those protesters a belong in jail. he also said that these protesters who are chanting anti-semitism i mean, quite clearly anti-semitism will not be tolerated in texas period and that students joining and the hate-filled anti-semitic protests of any public college or university in texas should
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be expelled. in texas things for now com, but it's certainly an escalation that is probably going to draw even in more protests. because like here on columbia, one of the things that students are protesting is the activity of police on their campuses shuba for occupies reporting from columbia university in new york, shimon. thank you very much. i want to go to cnn's nick watt right now. he's over in los angeles covering the protest over at the university of southern california in los angeles nick, we've seen clashes there between student demonstrators and the police. what's happening right now yeah. >> will those clashes earlier resulted in an arrest in that protester was actually released after the crowd were chanting, let them go, let them go, and lapd detectives decided that it wasn't worth keeping him in custody city because that was really inflaming the situation. >> now, just in the past few minutes campus security have done their helmets and have formed this line back from the
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park where the protest is. dave, if we pull over here, you can see how close they are to the protests. you can maybe also here lapd choppers in the air just off-campus. there are dozens of lapd cruisers waiting in case they are needed. we also just heard from the provost wolf, who said that they believe lot of outside elements have come in and have colds that chaos that we saw earlier on today. >> i have certainly seen on social media outside organizations asking people to come down here. >> so what the college has done is they've closed all the gates. they're saying, if you want to get in, you will need a usc id because they want to keep this as small as possible. now, this morning when it got ugly, it wasn't that big of a protest since then as it's been peaceful and calmer the numbers have been growing boeing and growing and growing. and there is, of course a fear that it's going to get out of hand. there aren't that many of these campus officers, and there are a lot of protesters now, i spoken some june
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students who've been trying to prepare for their finals, walking by and yeah, they don't feel great about hearing into fighter revolution, into fighters. the only solution that's troubling for them on their campus. but this protest, very passionate and they say in solidarity with what's going on at columbia& around the rest most of the country and they say, did they are not leaving. so there is going to come a point where the desires of the protesters & the rules of the college we'll clash the protesters say they're not going to go anywhere. the college says, well, you can't stay here forever. so little bit of a lull right now, a tense as we wait to see what happens, wealth are nick watt in los angeles us, we'll stay in touch with you. >> thank you. here in washington. meanwhile, the campus protests are putting even more pressure on president biden over his policy when it comes to the israel-hamas war cnn's mj lee is over at the white house worse mj, what's the biden administration's
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response to these demonstrations across the country well, for starters, unlike house speaker johnson, we do not expect president biden to be making a visit to columbia can be a university on friday when he is in new york city, i am told that even inside the white house and the campaign, there have been no discussions about that kind of a campus visit. >> four for the president& that decision really is an extension of the broader strategy that we have seen inside the white house and the campaign when it comes to responding to the backlog us, but we have seen to the israel-hamas war, one senior white house official that i spoke with said that there has been no sense that the gaza situation, it's sort of an existential problem. for the biden presidency or his reelection chances. and i'm also told that the president has been mostly driven by really wanting to get to a good policy outcomes when it comes to this conflict, and less sort about the political implications. here at home. and when we have heard white house
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officials in recent day days or talk about these kinds of scenes of protests on college campuses. we've seen them on the one hand, trying to express support for the freedom of speech on the freedom of expression but also condemning any kind of violence in these protests. here is the white house press secretary earlier today the president believes that free speech debate and non-discrimination nation on college campuses are important. >> they're important american values. protests must be peaceful. students must be safe. when we see violent rhetoric, we have to call well that out now, none of this is to say that the white house is not incredibly sensitive to, has concerns about these kinds of protests and the backlash. >> but even one white house officials in recent weeks of tried to meet with muslim and arab community leaders at times even those attempts at such meetings have prompted calls for a boycotts. just another reminder of how fraught this whole issue has been for this white house to navigate.
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>> wolf, mj lee at the white house for us, mj. thank you very much. just ahead. we're awaiting the judge's ruling on whether donald trump violated a gag order in his criminal hush money trial. standby will get new information for you every piece of evidence tells a story how it really happened with jesse. >> oh, martin, sunday at nine on cnn nima phi, it's kind of amazing. >> wow, my go-to is lumify eye drops. lumify dramatically reduces redness in one minute and look at the difference my eyes look brighter and wider for up to eight hours, limma five really works see for yourself won't scalp play with us anymore. >> he has something called osteoarthritis, pain. it's joint pain that hurts him old tine wide-scale know, there's labriola, the first and only once monthly injection to
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bertrand at the pentagon and this cnf closed captioning brought to you by skechers hands-free slip ends. >> what's the greatest invention of all time? new hands-free sketcher slip ends. you just slip in and they're on. it's like they have an invisible built-in shu born. so your foot and slides into police hands-free sketch your slippers did i donald trump is awaiting a ruling on whether he violated his gag order in the hush money criminal trial. >> the judge could reveal his decision that anytime cnn's kara scannell is following it all for us, she's joining us from new york right now. kara, tell us more about what we back to happen in the hours ahead we will if we are waiting for the judge to rule on whether donald trump violated a gag order in this case? >> my god, order involves statements the prosecutors say trump made up against one of their witnesses, michael cohen, while tonight, michael cohen saying that he will no longer make any comments about donald from on social media or on his
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podcast. he saying out of respect for the judge and the prosecutors, he said he will be back. he said in a month or more after he testifies in this case, but still waiting to see where the judge is going to come down on this. now, meanwhile, tomorrow morning, david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer, will be back on the witness stand. on tuesday. he set the jury and up into what the prosecutor say was this conspiracy involving david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen when they hatch this plan to catch and kill any negative stories about the president donald trump while he was running for office in the 2016 campaign now, tomorrow he is expected to be back on the stand and he will continue to tell the jury three about one of these deals, that one involving the former playboy model, karen mcdougal, and then ultimately the third kachin killed deal, the one at the core of this case involving stormy daniels. after his testimony is completed by the prosecutor's, then donald trump's lawyers will have a chance to begin their
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cross-examination of him. that could be as soon as tomorrow afternoon. >> like. you're scannell on new york for us, cara. thank you. i want to bring in our legal and political experts right now and michael moore, let me start with you just before he yesterday's hearing, trump actually gave an interview to cnn affiliate wpvi and said this, listen michael cohen is a convicted liar and he's got no credibility whatsoever. he was a lawyer and you rely on your lawyers let you expect the judge is going to react to this apparent this apparent violation of the order that the judge imposed. yeah. well, i'm glad to be with you. he can't help himself. apparently, i'm that just seems to be the norm for him. and so right after you have this rather contentious hearing the judge had his tempers flaring up a little bit. i think it is lawyer for him to them come on and make those kind of comments, i think does nothing but make his lawyer's job that much more difficult. but the problem is, is that the judge has such limited punishment that he can impose. and so he's got a sort
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of decide how hard i want to go now and how long is this going to go? he's gotta maintain control of the courtroom certainly in the process as we go on on it's going to be a long process, but also suggest that he may he may come down and say, i find these things to have been a violation. he's continuing to violate some of these others that are alleged may not get there in the it's interesting, aren't kush on chris khardori is with us as well, the maximum fine that the judge potentially can oppose against trump for violating his gag orders about $10,000. hardly a lot of money for trump. so what is the point of this it appears to be to try to impose some sort of deterrent effect on him, even in a limited capacity, doesn't seem like it will be that effective. >> it's not that much money so i think the da's office should be thinking about a couple of other things potentially here. one of which they already identified last week, which is if trump keeps it up, they're going to stop telling them which witnesses they're calling on which days which will make it hard for his defense lawyers to prepare and two, i wouldn't be surprised. the da's office puts all of these tweets are truce or whatever into evidence
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at the trial, right? when trump takes the stand or after the close of their case and say, look this man was on trial. here's what he was doing while you were serving on this jury, is tweeting about people. he was lying about there being a democratic plot to take them down. he was lying about, you he was promoting people like jesse watters, who had been trying to out you all this stuff can come in. it's all admissions you we'll see what happens to that front. you know, it's interesting, gloria, the secret service has actually discussed what to do if the judge, in this particular case, we're to actually jail trump, right how do you think would play? yeah. first of all, i don't think that's going to happen. and secondly, i think it would play right into donald trump's hands you know, put them in jail. he says this is a political prosecution. they're jailing me and meanwhile, michael cohen is able to say anything he wants about me. and by the way, it's interesting that michael cohen is now going to zip as his account because i'm sure his lawyers got to him and said, you know, this, you got to stop this. but i you
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know, i think pudding pudding down, trump in jail would be a big mistake. and i just i don't see any way that's going to happen as a result of a gag order, most most of the people who didn't speak to agree with you totally see what the judge does decide he could not hard to sit anytime that the punishment should be in addition to all of this, as you know, michael david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer or hebrew, he will be back on the witness stand tomorrow morning. >> what else do prosecutors want to get from him? >> they really need to continue to build their story around the idea that cohen is not responsible for this. that's right. if this is trump's doing trump's pulling the strings. drop is the puppet master, or at least is the key, a key player in this conspiracy in this deal. so they're going to work i think maybe a what will be defense arguments that it's somebody else that is really cohen who was the fixer. and that trump was merely a ceo and was just overseeing and sign in checks. they'll try to talk more about the meetings about this recording. they'll do those things. and then
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hopefully they will maybe get into get from david pecker more information about why this was unique as opposed to something that was normal and as we talk about trump's case and the effort to help his campaign as opposed to just do and checkbook media that there's this had a different level of involvement a different purpose. that purpose being to interfere remember the election on curious. >> what do you think the trump legal defense team is going to try to do to help their client with david pecker. i mean, i think honestly their best defense on this front is i mean, they will do anything they can to diminish trump's personal involvement, to try to cross to try to limit packers testimony. but the fact of the matter is the catch and kill scheme is not the core criminal conduct. that's at issue here. the court cannot conduct is everything that follows it concerning payment to stormy daniels and in particular, how those payments were booked internally on trump's books and why, how and why those payments were booked so i expect the todd blanche and
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trump's lawyers, to the extent they have already been previewed this a little bit to say, this is largely irrelevant, this case is actually about a small thing most of this stuff you don't even need to pay attention to you know, look, i think what they're going to try and do is obviously you're there, we're going to be talking about karen mcdougal we're gonna be talking about stormy daniels and they're going to try and say, you know donald trump wasn't really involved in this. this is all michael cohen's doing and michael cohen was the fixer and took it upon himself to try and protect this man. what's interesting to me, and i don't know the answer to this question is, why haven't they attacked mr. pecker? donald trump has not attacked david pecker, and i think it may be because he feels that pecker still has a little bit of power over him you know, that there's a lot of stuff that pecker knows that maybe he's not talking about, but donald trump has attacked everybody else but he's left.
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>> david pecker alone, which i think is kind of curious. >> you certainly don't want to do more harm, right? is they think about cross-examine and they think about taking on pecker. you don't want to do more harm and that so you might be running yeah, it's interesting. >> make a good point. all right, guys. thank you very, very much. just ahead. the other consequential case looming over donald trump with the us supreme court preparing to hear arguments tomorrow. on his claim of presidential immunity from the federal law. january 6, case. we'll be right back his new album is breaking records gets to say what country is comey country beyond, say a nashville's on april 26, streaming exclusively on mats this tiny homes trend not for me. >> now, this is more like it. the same goes for my footwork. why one hands-free with wife fit sketch are slipping. just step in and go without bending down or touching my shoes wide fit, hands-free sketches, slip
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high-stakes case tomorrow morning. cnn's bryan todd is taking a closer look at all of this force. brian set the stage for us ahead of these historic arguments. wolf, it boils down to this. the special counsel, jack smith, is arguing that donald trump has never been above the law. trump's lawyers argued that what he did to try to overturn the election results was part of his official duties as president, and he shouldn't be prosecuted presidents have to be given total immunity. >> they have to be allowed to do the job in arguing that he has presidential immunity. >> donald trump says, if former president's could be criminally prosecuted for official acts, they took as president that threat would loom over everything. presidents do. >> they have to make decisions and they have to make them free of all terror that can be rained upon them when they leave office or even before they leave office. trump's making that argument before the supreme court in the january 6 election subversion case brought by special counsel, jack smith, who counters
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trump's argument by saying, no one is above the law. the idea that somebody can commit crimes in the oval office and then in perpetuity for the rest of their life, escape all accountability is inimical to american law and the constitution. the supreme court has barred civil lawsuits against the former president for official acts. >> while in the white house, but hasn't addressed whether criminal charges can be filed. president richard nixon tried to to invoke limited presidential immunity over judicial orders in 1974, when he tried to avoid handing over his white house tapes to the special counsel investigating the watergate scandal. he didn't try to invoke immunity over criminal prosecution. the supreme court ruled nixon had to turn the tapes over when the supreme court decided that he had to turnover the tapes. richard nixon stop making the argument that somehow they were protected by immunity or executive privilege. he turned them over and those tapes contained evidence that nixon was involved in the watergate
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cover-up shortly after handing the tapes over, nixon was out hi shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. >> in this case, trump argues his actions after the 2020 election. we're all part of his official duties as president, but we've had tremendous northrop determined but we worked on that. that's what i was doing jack smith disputes that, saying trump was working to overturn the legitimate results where joe biden won and he lost a supreme court victory for trump, absolute blanket immunity could help him in at least one other criminal case as well, could very well. the georgia case as to him or at least cut it down significantly. >> it has no impact in my judgment on the mar-a-lago case because everything he has been charged with occurred after january 21, 2021, and even if he doesn't get a clean win at the supreme court, trump could get a partial win. the court could say that some of his actions are official & they have send it back to the lower
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court. >> trump would love to have this go back to the lower court because his principal weapon now is delayed hey taylor swift, even if prosecutor jack smith wins at the supreme court and can proceed with his case, he likely will have lost valuable time. the court may not rule on trump's immunity claim until late june. and if that happens, there may not be enough time to start trump's january 6 trial before the election. well, hi, brian. thanks very much. bryan todd reporting. let's turn back to our experts right now and it also bringing and cnn legal analyst steve vladeck and steve, the federal appeals court resoundingly, resoundingly rejected trump's legal teams argument about presidential immunity, including the idea that they made that a president united states but, even could even order seal team six to assassinate his political rival. let's listen to that moment. this is from a lower court. listen to this it a president ordered seal team six to assassinate a political rival that's an official act in order to seal team six, he
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would have to be in what speedily be impeached and convicted so how do you expect the supreme court to approach this very historic and sensitive case tomorrow yeah. >> hey, well, i think the real question for the justices is actually less about former president trump's conduct and more about hypotheticals involve former presidents who may have crossed lines where the justices are more sympathetic to the idea that there shouldn't be a criminal prosecution. so i think we're going to hear a lot tomorrow about cases real or hypothetical, other than january 6 and the justices trying to figure out there's an easy and obvious way to put the charges against former president trump on the non community side of the line. well, either recognizing that there's some immunity for former presidents or wolf leaving them out for a future case where it comes up, i suspect we're going to hear a lot about that tomorrow.
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>> interesting on christian supreme court could have resolved this awhile ago. you wrote this today. let me put it up on the screen. this is what you wrote, even if trump ultimately loses at the high court, that delay may already have provided him with a defective form of immunity since he could easily escape judgment before the election. so why? what do you think the supreme court decided to prolong this issue by taking on this case. >> well, look, i think the generous interpretation in some quarters that this is a serious case very consequential. we need to resolve but saturates, cetera. i don't see it that way. i think this case should have been resolved quickly. the dc circuit's opinion, which was thorough and compelling, should have been quickly affirmed why is this happening? i think it is hard for me at least, and i think many veteran court watchers to resist the idea that there are some politics at play here. that perhaps the conservative justices are a faction is a contingent of the conservative justices will be quite content for this trial not to happen four election day and potentially never what do you see as the political fallout from all of us?
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>> well, i mean, never have we seen a supreme court since bush gore, so involved in the outcome of a presidential election. and they're taking their time. bush gore was decided after the arguments within a few days this is a court that has delayed and as i'm chris was saying, they could have accepted the appeals court ruling, which was well-reasoned and thought out and they decided not to and so now they have a problem on their hands because whatever they do is going to be viewed through a political lens. and they could send it back to that court and say, you know, you guys work it out about what's an official act and what isn't an official act? and that could delay this case even more. so, you would have no chance of seeing any resolution before the election. >> interesting, you are steve year, the supreme court expert, knowing the court could take until june to rule on this issue of presidential immunity. do you think trump's federal election interference case could be tried before? for the
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november election know what i think every day that passes makes it a little bit harder and i can probably the most important thing about tomorrow's oral argument. >> it's something we won't know tomorrow, which is how fast are the justices going to turn around a decision? it's possible, it could go until late june when the justices rise for their summer recess it's possible that even though the court didn't act as quickly as we might have wanted it to. it's still willing to act quickly now, and maybe we got a decision perhaps by memorial day. i think we're really going to have to figure that out only in retrospect. the question to watch for tomorrow is how much are the justices focused on the specific allegations against former president trump, and how much are they thinking about handing down some kind of broader role going forward? i think that's gonna be the real key that dictates how fast we get a ruling on the far end. >> yeah, lots going on, guys. thank you very, very much just ahead, breaking news i've arizona right now, lawmakers voting again to repeal the
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state's civil war era abortion ban. plus, will go inside today's supreme court arguments over for abortion access with too conservative justices emerging as key votes live from the nation's capital one at the moment unforgettable nights in dc, the sworn and we'll read back here again, president biden and comedian collin joseph headline the white house correspondents, dinner, live saturday seven eastern on cnn now, adt professionally installs google nest products you're all set, so you're hone is safe and smarter. >> we're going to miss you can check it on your home are mis system, they should go manage your system from virtually anywhere get intelligent alerts like what a packet which has arrived are the most trusted name and home security as the intelligence of google, you have a home with no worries brought to you by adt.
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science, better results this is cnn the world's news we're following breaking news out of arizona right now, the state house just voted to overturn a civil war abortion ban that was revived by the arizona supreme court in a very controversial ruling that got national attention. >> this paves the way for arizona potentially to return to a 15-week limit on abortions. a state senate vote is expected next week. this comes as the us supreme court is now weighing a case focusing in an emergency abortion care. as cnn's paula reid reports today, the supreme court court heard another historic case on abortion as protesters on both sides of the issue gathered out
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front the high-stakes hearings focused on idaho's abortion ban and how it applies in medical emergencies. >> the state allows exceptions when the life of a mother is at risk, but the biden administration sued the state, arguing that federal law requires the state to allow the procedure if it is needed to stabilize a patient even when the mother's condition is not yet life-threatening, joshua turner argued for the state and faced a barrage of medical hypotheticals from the liberal justices. all of these cases are rare, but within these rare cases, there's a significant number where the woman is, her life is not in parallel, but she's going to lose her reproductive organs. >> she's going to lose the ability to have children and the future unless as an abortion takes place, conservative justice, amy coney barrett joined her liberal colleagues in pressing turner on the state's position and how it leaves doctors open to
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prosecution if they were exercising their medical judgment, they could in good faith determined that lifesaving care was necessary and that's my point, is this a subject some dieters couldn't is some doctors might reach a contrary conclusion, i think as well as sotomayor is asking you so they reached if they reached the conclusion that the legislature's doctors did, would they be prosecuted under idaho law no. >> no? if they if they reached the conclusion that the doctor reynolds, dr. white, did that these were like what if the prosecutor thought differently? what if the prosecutor thought, well, i don't think any in good faith doctor could draw that conclusion. i'm going to put on my expert and that your honor, is the nature of prosecutorial discretion. justice barrett and chief justice john roberts had tough questions for both sides and could end up being the swing votes that determine the outcome. >> elizabeth pray longer, argued for the government meant that idaho is subject to a federal law called the emergency medical treatment and
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labor act, or emtala. >> and idaho doctors have to shut their eyes to everything except death. whereas under emtala, your sovo supposed to be thinking about things like is she about to lose her fertility? it's her uterus going to become incredibly scarred because of the bleeding. is she about to undergo the possibility of kidney failure? she faced questions from conservatives about how to protect unborn children are seen abortion statutes that use the phrase unborn child hi elder doesn't that tell us something it tells us that congress wanted to expand the protection for pregnant women so that they could get the same duties to screen and stabilize when they had a condition that is threatening the health and well-being of the unborn child, retired justice stephen breyer has warned that the court will likely see more cases like this in the wake of its decision to over return roe majority thinks it's going to turn the whole issue over to the legislatures of states and we'll never have to deal with it again. oh,
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really, this is not going to work well a decision in this case is expected in late june right in the middle of the presidential race. >> now since roe was overturned, this has become an issue that is really hard of galvanize, a democratic voters so wolfe, depending on how they decide here, this is a decision that could potentially have an impact on the presidential race. >> you're absolutely right. paula reid 40 for as paula. thank you. joining us now, the president and ceo of planned parenthood, alexis mcgill johnson. alexis, thanks so much for joining us. the court seems seems deeply divided over this case. do you think they will uphold the federal law for emergency care? and what are you break excuse me. what are you bracing for if they don't well i think the question is, why are they so deeply divided? >> this seems like such a clear case of being able to get access to emergency care when you walk into an emergency
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room, that should be the expectation of every patient walking in into an emergency room. it should be the expectation of every provider being able to make common sense judgments to save the lives or stabilize patients even if that includes abortion care, because abortion is also health care. and i think the fact that they are divided when the when you could hear the attorney describing that essentially emtala is already not law in akhbar. you if they're flying patients out to get access to a carrot to seems like just kind of ridiculous moment that we are in justice kagan laid out the impact idaho's abortion ban is already having in the state's largest emergency room. >> listen to this the hospital that has the greatest emergency room services in idaho has just in the few months that this has been in place i had to airlift
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six pregnant women to neighboring states. >> whereas in the prior year they did won the entire year. it's become transfer is the appropriate we had standard of care in idaho, but it can't be the right standard of care to force somebody onto a helicopter alexis, help us better understand the reality on the ground in states like idaho, just how difficult has it become for women to get emergency reproductive care? well, i think that justice kagan is making the point that these abortion bans have already made pregnancy more dangerous. and when you have complications, the ability he of emergency providers and hospitals to actually get access in the immediate two patients that they need is they essentially have to call it lawyers and administrators before they do that. we know that in idaho there have been labor and delivery wards that have closed down and as she referred to they've had to resort to air lifting patients out of state once a week. they
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said they are sending patient devastate and this is from the attorney that was arguing the case today. the real implication is that you have providers who have to second guess but how they treat pregnant people that walk into the emergency rooms for their care and the implications of what that means, right? not just for the life of the parent, but for the pregnancy itself and for future fertility to hear the justices argue about the impact two organs. how many organs being impacted is enough for you to provide a standard of care really should be shocking to us all. and that's really what this case is about. the right to let patients die we should all be deeply concerned about what they've taken up here alexis mcgill johnson, thanks so much for joining us thank you. and coming up new details on when a new round of foreign aid that actually get to where it's needed most to go after all of this was unfold after president
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