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new york hush money cover up case today, mr. trump posting on twitter social quote, the gag order imposed on me a political candidate running for the highest office in the land is totally unconstitutional. >> all caps, nothing like this has ever happened before, unquote well, i mean, kind of those words just as judge juan merchan is considering whether or not mr. trump has violated the gag order and what the punishment should be. the judge's decision could come any day really? honestly, any minute now, cnn senior legal analyst elie honig is here so la thanks so much for being here. we're still waiting on judge merchan to issue his ruling on whether or not trump violated the gag order. how long could this be left unresolved? well, it's up to him, but he's got to move fast. >> i mean, how much more evidence could he need them? this as the order is pending, donald trump is going out and revivim waiting and revitalizing. it would you think he did it? oh, i think you've all ten those are all tentative, i think. yes, i think the judge the judge has

tended to split the baby as we say, he may peel off a couple of them and say, this one's a little bit ambiguous. the judge is going to find that he violated the vast majority of those ten or i think it's 11 now and maybe more pending. >> i if i had to guess, i would guess we'll get a ruling tomorrow earlier before the court de so tabloid to magnate david pecker, that's a nice version for what he has sleaze merchant former publisher of the national enquirer, testified for about two-and-a-half hours yesterday. >> he's been granted in immunity deal, an exchange for his testimony with what we know of his testimony so far, what he's admitted he did for trumpn he's admitted he did for trump to help trump's campaign in his words, campaign is the classic case of immunity because he's involved at the

margins. he's not really involved in the actual crime of falsifying business records, right? >> what he's giving them a really solid foundation for their casey's taking jurors inside that sleazy world, and he setting a really, a really powerful, i think the basic structure of what the jury is going to need to you could actually argue that pecker as the star witness, everybody says michael cohen has, but pecker in terms of what he's revealing is pretty important. >> i agree. and i think he's i know he's going to have better credibility that michael cohen and here's a case in point. the southern district of new york spent a lot of time with both of them. the southern district of new york made a decision back to three years ago to give david pecker a non-profit because they believed him they did not make that decision. and they said to the contrary to michael cohen sentencing judge, he was not fully forth. >> how do you think that defense is going to handle david pecker? >> i think they're going to try a couple of things. one, they will attack that very non-profit, non-prosecution agreement that we've been talking about. they're going to argue this is unfair. why are you walking free when donald trump, they're trying to lock up donald trump and they're going to argue, you are trying to please the prosecutors. they

gave you a sweetheart deal. you're on the palm of their hand. i think the other thing they're going to do and i don't know how much traction they're gonna get is they're going to try to argue the vast majority of your contacts about this catch and kill. we're not with donald trump. they were with michael cohen and he was operating off the books. but as you remember, jake, there were plenty of contacts, not plenty, but a few contexts between pecker and donald trump. >> le, stick around while the hush money trial resumes in new york tomorrow, the us supreme court is also going to hear arguments tomorrow on whether trump should get the ultimate trump card when it comes to some of the most scathing charges against him, the justices are facing a momentous question. they have never had to answer before. can a former president be immune from criminal liability for his actions while he was while he was in office. this all stems, of course, from trump challenging special counsel jack smith's federal for election subversion case. let's bring in cnns, audie cornish and joan biskupic. joan, do you have any insight into how you think the justices might rule? >> well, you started off,

right? this is untested, but back in the 1980s, the justices did rule in a case that involved civil immunity and said that former president richard nixon at the time could not have to be liable in a civil claim, but they set aside the way to your question of criminal immunity and what special counsel jack smith argues is that throughout history there has been a general understanding that presidents could not be completely shielded in criminal cases which are more serious in nature. and he points to, for example, a modern precedent of the watergate that former president gerald ford pardoned richard nixon after he was forced out of office because of watergate in that pardon, had a general recognition that richard nixon could have been criminally prosecuted. winning means you probably did. this. there was a recognition for that, but i just want to add just one little caveat here. i think it's a very it's a question we have to take seriously. we can't just dismiss it as absurd, even though donald trump is asking for something that's quite a

lot, absolute immunity. this is a ct dominated by conservatives. three of the justices put on by donald trump, and several of these justices does have wanted to strengthen presidential authority over the years. bottom-line, though, i do not think that they will they're going to agree to absolute immunity and probably i think in the end, dental trump will lose and it will go back for trial, although it is interesting audie, because donald trump has been sitting in that new york courtroom miserable seething with contempt against the judge, seething with contempt against the da alvin bragg, as well as his prosecutor season with contempt against the witnesses, stormy daniels, michael cohen, i wonder he what he would give to be in the us supreme court tomorrow instead, looking up at the guthrie that he appointed to the core i've given them winks, given them smiles. i mean, how much do you think he'd rather be there? >> i think that the reason why i was even interested in following this in particular, is because right in the middle where we were all obsessed with jury selection for the case in manhattan. he was basically rage posting on truths social

specifically about the immunity case and he had already been upset by the fact that he wasn't able to it wasn't granted the ability to go to his son's graduation, et cetera but i don't think it's just punted on exactly. been two and graduated but it's the idea that he spent way more time talking about this and was very specific talking about the arguments that his lawyers have been making to the court, saying just one in particular, if immunity is not granted to a president, every president that leaves office will be immediately indicted by the opposing party the briefs that they have filed allude to these ideas over and over again, and that he was almost already forecasting, hey, this is where everybody should be looking. elie, you have a new piece of new york magazine saying that even though trump might not, trump might not win this particular challenge, the whole idea of presidential immunity, the argument is not as silly as, as people might think it is. it's not as simple as no man is above the law, right? >> there's more to it than that. i agree with joan. i think the bottom line is donald

trump will not prevail here. i've given the facts of this case but it's important to understand donald trump in his brief to the supreme court, he's actually not arguing. we have this term blanket immunity or absolute immunity. it's a little misleading. he's not arguing. i'm automatically immune for everything from new& on january 20, 2017, when i took the oath until four years later, he was arguing that earlier, but he has i think wisely dropped that now he's arguing the more limited claim that i'm immune four official acts and that raises the question that the supreme court's going to have to grapple with. well, we're these official akre and i think the factual answer is hell, no. but it may take time to get there. and what i think is a nightmare scenario for jack smith is if the supreme court says, you can be covered for official acts, like in the civil context in case you've talked about, but it's got to go back down to judge chutkan. you have to hold fact-finding on that. >> joan, how might this ruling impact future presidents? do you think widely because it will be the very first time the supreme court has ever weighed in on this. one thing i want to mention, not only do we have a bit of an issue on the official

x, i don't think supreme court's gonna go there to tell you the truth. i think they faked it into the question presented, but i'll tell you, jake where it could come up. is for actions arising from foreign affairs jack smith even dropped a footnote into one of his brief saying, there are certain circumstances it says that as commander in chief dealing with foreign powers, there might be some actions taken that could be perhaps criminally suspected war crimes, but, but what he says, those are specific instances that would not are not here if the president is going to b immune from anything. the one thing he will not be immune from his election center footnote some more than i think it doesn't four-star generals help file an abacus brief basically saying, look, no this is not what we want and they were actually arguing against what the president is saying about why until immunity. well, they're saying in fact, they note the threat of authoritarianism or around the world. they also talk about the

ability to protect elections from candidates who may hold on to whether they have won or lost. these are the kinds of things that are going to resurface in this conversation over the next couple of days and the thing you pointed out that i'm pretty obsessed with now is the idea of an a court where there are several people who who are originalists and are paying attention to how the framers would think about something. how are they going to talk about this? because obviously the framers weren't into monarchs the idea of immunity to me in every, any context here it's going to be something to see how they thread that needle in conversation. >> all right, audie cornish, joan biskupic, elie honig. thanks to all of you. this is going to be the topic of audio podcasts. her podcast is called the assignment with audie cornish, and you can download it anywhere you get your podcasts. is this one up already or is it? it's up already a little early. this all right. >> it's already cornish wednesday and join me tomorrow morning. cnn, it's gonna have coverage as this us supreme court hearing begins, we're live in the morning beginning at 9:00 a.m. eastern on tv or

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physical altercations. what's happening now? >> well, right now, i would say he school the passionate and a lot of speakers, lot of chanting. there is only one solution into fighter revolution resistance is justified that listen, i know that there are jewish students on this campus who feel uncomfortable walking around their own campus, hearing that it has been peaceful ever since the security officials really pulled back. now, we saw some really ugly scenes when they came in, tried to clear this area of tense. and when one protester was arrested soon as that protester was released, the temperature went way way down. >> but the lapd has said that they might come in at some point to clear this area. >> there are dozens of lapd squad cars waiting just off-campus for now. jake is peaceful. of course the tension here heightened by the fact that a young muslim woman who is supposed to be the valedictorian speaker, who's last week told she can't speak because there's some problematic links, for instance

two grams. so passions are high, peaceful for nag, jake, yeah, intifada, revolution, intifada, meaning uprising, but to a lot of jews and israelis, intifada, a conscious fourth, images of palestinian terrorism in israel during the first and second palestinian intifada is isabel your at brown university students are just putting up tents there now jacob rose rather quickly these tensors coming up since 6:00 a.m. now there's over 20 of them and over 100 demonstrators here at the principle lawn of the school. >> and by the way, over here to the left, that brick building, that is the administrative buildings. so school officials could hear their chance, can hear the singing and look as this encampment continues to grow. here in the last couple of hours, jake, i also saw university police it's a scoring school officials as they went around the circle of demonstrators in one by one by one, had them scan their ids on this machine because we know

that they are facing disciplinary action. organizers forwarded to me an email that they got from their student portal from the student conduct office but saying that yes, there was a case open against them and they're researching what they could face anything from suspension to the school says expulsion is even possible. now, to the question of whether police would be invited i did here on campus, the school says that unlike what we've seen in other campuses, there have been no altercations, no. no reports of harassment, violence, or any of the sort, but said that if things do escalate, it they need to remove this encampment. they would invite officers on campus. >> all right. isabel role at those allah's at brown university in providence, rhode island. nick wanted usc and elleithee, to both you, house speaker mike johnson just visited columbia university in manhattan where pro-palestinian protests have been creating turmoil across the campus for at least the last week, cnn's erin burnett is at columbia university now an error and you just sat down with speaker johnson right after his press conference. we're at times, if not throughout the entire thing, students sen. protesters

were heckling him yeah. >> yeah. and you know what jake behind me, this is the tented camp min here at columbia university that we've seen at the heart of all this it's peaceful, it's quiet, it's an absolutely gorgeous day that's how it was when we got here. but a couple of hundred feet away at the steps of the library that's where the house speaker along with adults location of other gop representatives, media from new york went to get press conference. there were hundreds of people there. jake just completely swarmed hundreds and a lot of media but a lot of students and it was heckling from start to finish, although not overwhelming the entire time that the speaker was saying that he thinks that jewish students are being harassed. and this has to stop. he called for the resignation of the university president, president here at columbia. and that the chance here, it's interesting what nick watt was saying. he said to get you a c the chance here, we're free palestine, which would go up an echo across as they were heckling the speaker. i spoke to him afterwards, jake, we were supposed to do the

interview outside. we actually couldn't do that security think it was saved because they thought it would literally be rushed by people. so we had to go inside and then they put that building under lockdown for the speaker to do the interview, during which when i talk to about free speech and their right to say this, he said that the students here are hamas is endorsed what they're doing and that, that clearly in his view makes it illegitimate and not an issue of free speech. and he said for him very clearly, as a matter of good naval. so what will air the whole interview? this evening, but i will say jake, the takeaway that i had was sort of an overwhelming number of people who were there and the speaker and the team, they plowed through it, they stuck with their plan, but it was certainly a lot more than they had anticipated. that's for sure. jiang, interesting. erin burnett. thank you so much. we're all going to, of course, look for your full interview tonight with speaker johnson, erin burnett now it out front. that's right here on cnn 7:00 eastern coming up next and the leader must see cnn exclusive the footage from a us marine's gopro camera that challenges official pentagon reports about the afghanistan withdrawal and

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eyewitness evidence obtained by cnn calls that into question. cnn's nick paton walsh has this investigation are you guys write said let's go this video? >> not fully seen in public before, reveals brutal facts long denied by the us military on august 26, 2021, a moment of acute savagery at the end of america's longest war. >> two pentagon investigations insisted all 170 afghans and 13 us military who died here were killed by an isis-k bomber and nobody hit by gunfire no definitive proof that anyone was ever hit or killed by gunfire. >> but this new video, which begins outside the airport's abbey gate entrance reveals much more shooting after the blast than the pentagon said combined with new accounts to

cnn of marines opening fire and gunshot injuries and afghan civilians. it's challenges, the rigueur unreliability of the two pentagon investigations to declared no afghans civilians were shot dead in the chaotic aftermath. the bomb detonates the footage, then stops and picks up three seconds later you get i got on bring it grew many marines here we're young some on there first deployment, be gunfire starts they ran for cover this long it's about 17 shots bringing us a total of 20 we're

tallying shots fired and episodes of fire based on two forensic analysis on screen cannot see who is still firing here, and we never see marines or anyone one firing in this video short controlled bursts in solution cs gas canister has exploded in the blast is gas choking this marine and in a moment, the total episodes of gunfire you've heard stopping more than the three the pentagon has said happened the gunfire i continues we leap forward 27 seconds as afghans

arms raised run into the airport because morgan dark brown one burst, now another another tv bro they wonder if the taliban, the tb, the shooting. two marines told us they saw the taliban just hours after the blast we're as shocked as de were multiple marines, we spoke to who are there, said they felt they were under fire, but the pentagon has insisted for two years unknowability gunmen opened fire here. they've said the only shots fired here where two bursts by us marines count and one from uk troops. once in a big burst from a nearby by tower. all bursts. >> similar tinea get down. >> are you good? >> so according to their investigations, we must be hearing marines, all the british firing here jump forwards nearly two minutes during which there are three bursts. and the heading outside to help at least 43 shots in 11

episodes of shooting just short to four minutes of sporadic fire, most of which the pentagon he said for two years did not have this is how terrifying it was for afghans outside minutes after the blast who was shooting? for the first time, a marine eyewitnesses come forward and told cnn the first big burst of gunfire at the start of the gopro video. you just saw came from where us marines were standing near the blast site, were using a different voice to hide his identity as he fears reprisals for describing the gunfire it was multiple there's no doubt about that. it wasn't onesies and twosies. it was a mass volume of gunfire down towards the abbey gate sniper tower from roughly an area not too far away from where the blast heard gone off. that's where you heard the shooting emanate

from. >> the would have been around that area? yes. there we're us marines, right. this was likely emanating from marines on the ground yes. you think they fired him to the ground i couldn't tell you for certain but they wouldn't have fired into the air, right? >> no, they would not have fired into the air because you had a specific no warning shots order, right? >> it wasn't a direct order but it was a common understanding. no warning shots. >> these are kids. >> they're young and they've only been taught what they've been taught. some of these kids have been with the unit for quite literally two, three months prior to deployment we spoke to over ten other marines anonymously about gunfire. some felt they were shot at a couple of even said they saw a gun man. but to others who we were unable to reach ourselves, both injured, both admitting some memories were fuzzy but one clear. he heard orders to fire, the other, that he opened fire himself.

>> i see my platoon sergeant walked past us saying, get back on that wall and shoot back at those motherf so i'm like a word, a gunfight too. >> like all i hear is ringing, flashes going on. and then i start hearing snaps and i start realizing can do shouldn't at me. i just started shooting that we did so what i've afghans themselves 100 and of whom died. the pentagon has insisted all injuries and deaths were from the bomb when its ball bearings. but two years ago, cnn heard significant evidence from 19 eyewitnesses that afghans were shot and from afghan medical staff accounting dozens of dead from bullets kyi was said are commodity had doctor at the cabel hospital treating most of the wounded back then he was afraid get to speak openly and his account was dismissed by the pentagon but now we met him safe with asylum in finland. he says, he and his staff had the

expertise to diagnose over 50 dead from gunfire that night? >> 170 peoples were killed. church really but should the register, what do we have? maybe 145 and by your estimation, about half, more than half were killed by gunshot so when you hear the american investigation, say that you're just wrong, you don't know what you're talking about? i wonder. >> i hope one day they asked me or they call me what you saw. like you come here and asked me, you came to kabul in, asked me about the situation, then never asked me even though we described the video and our findings in great detail to the pentagon, they said they would need to examine any new unseen video before they could assess it. they said that first investigation had ferry looked at allegations of outgoing fire

from us and coalition forces following the blast they said their review released earlier this month focused not on gunfire, but the bomber and events leading up to the blast, but found no new evidence of a complex attack. and uncovered no new assertions of outgoing fire, having no materialistic impact on the original investigation investigators have also so not interviewed any afghans for their reports. the pentagon said, leaving the question of how hungry for the truth are they now, jake, just to reminder of one of the key points as you heard from dr.& his hospital staff's assessment, they believe over 70 of the dead afghan civilians who came to their facility had gunshot wounds. now that's potentially about a third of the people who've died in this attack. and so the question is, who fired those shots? and as you heard, there, the pentagon i've insisted the only gunmen firing what american or british this troops. now, we've been also trying obviously to look

at this in terms of the truth and how that can provide some sort of come for not only for those afghan families, but also for the 13 goldstar families. well, the 13 dead american personnel. and since we broadcast that report, we've heard from republican congressman from florida mike waltz, who said that two-and-a-half years later questions are still emerging. he says importantly, i was just briefed last week on the second investigation into the bombing moments told the opposite of this reporting, citing what you just saw, my heart breaks for the 13 goldstar families who can't get closure or accountability on this tragedy. so even still now desperate calls for clarity and i think a feeling that the pentagon haven't yielded potentially all the information they have or haven't searched thoroughly enough into exactly what happened jake, nick paton walsh with some incredible and difficult reporting. thank you so much can we up next to

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worldline and american israeli hostage in hamas terrorists captivity has appeared in an hamas hostage video. >> cnn is only going to show a single still image from the video. it's the first confirmation that hirsch goldberg poland is still alive. the first one that his family has gotten that their son survived the horrific injuries on october 7 that took his left hand hirsch was kidnapped from the nova music festival on october 7. he's one a five american hostages in gaza thought to still be alive. and cnn's jeremy diamond is in jerusalem. jeremy, we've interviewed rachel goldberg hirsch, his mom on the lead. have she or her husband commented on this news? >> they have jake and you know, for 201 days, she and her husband had hoped that their son was alive, but they didn't actually have any proof, any evidence that there's sun survived october 7 besides one video that showed him a quite seriously injured with part of

his left-hand missing from that attack. and so they say tonight that they are overwhelmed by seeing this video of their son. they are heartened to see him, but concerned, of course, for his well-being and they're also issuing a grave plea to the people and the countries involved in trying to secure a hostage deal we're here today with a plea to all of the leaders of the parties have been negotiating to date. >> that includes qatar, egypt, the united states, hamas, and israel the braves, lehman seize this moment and get a deal done. >> and hirsch if you can hear this, we heard your voice today for the first time in 201 days. and if you can hear us i am telling you we are telling you we love you stay strong, survive and look jake, there's no question that hamas has released this video for

propaganda purposes with the aim of trying to influence those negotiations, which for the last couple of weeks have really been at a standstill back sliding even as hamas has changed, some demands and refuse to budge on others but his family is certainly hoping that this moment can be used to try and advance those negotiations which are or not moving in a positive direction, but are certainly not dead yet, jake, jeremy, the state department and the united nations are pressing the israeli government for more information on mass graves discovered at two different hospitals in gaza after israeli forces withdrew from those hospitals, where they say they were fighting hamas members. >> what are israeli official saying well, jake, israeli officials are absolutely rejecting these claims being made by folks on the ground in gaza they say it is baseless and unfounded that they buried bodies at this hospital in southern gaza in khan yunis.

>> they say that corpses at that hospital were indeed examines. they say to try and identify the bodies of israeli hostages who were in gaza and who may have died, but they insist that the bodies that they exhumed were then placed, returned to their place. they say that's a very different story than the one we're hearing from gaza civil defense, as well as the families if some of those who were buried at that hospital, the gaza civil defense say that they found 324 bodies this week. they say that there were signs that they are hands were tied, their legs were tied, suggesting that they may have been executed. that's a claim that we cannot independently verify one that's rejected by the israeli military. the families they say that some of these bodies were indeed buried at this hospital, but that they were ultimately when they returned through the withdrawal of israeli forces, they say those bodies were in a different grave in a collective grave. and now the united nations, of course, is calling for an independent and international investigation. citing what they call a climate

of impunity. jake. all right. >> jeremy diamond in jerusalem. thanks so much tomorrow will mark a full six months in office for house speaker mike johnson, my next guest landed in personal leadership role. only six weeks my conversation about political chaos in office next the virus that causes shingles is sleeping 99% of people over 50 it's lying dormant waiting and could be activate shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks and he could wake at any time all right think you are not at risk for shingles it's time to wake up because shingles could wake up at you if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about jingles, perfect in sugar re leonard you everyday tasks wearing boxing gloves how

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powering progress i'm zachary cohen in washington and this is cnn back with our worldly, the united states, just four to five, ukraine with military aid after months of pushback by hard-right republicans and supporters of the maga movement president biden signed off on nearly $61 billion in aid for ukraine, part of the $95 billion package passed by the us senate last night, and other 26 billion is for israel and 8 billion for the indo-pacific. moments afterward, the defense department also announced another 1 billion in weapons and ammunition for ukraine and the predator got admitted that president biden had secretly directed them to send long-range off to requested atacms missiles in february a welcome sign to us allies, especially those in europe in close proximity to russian leader vladimir putin's ambitions earlier this week, i

sat down with the shortest-serving british prime minister in world history liz truss. we discussed her new book ten years to save the west madam prime minister's next so much for doing this really. well. >> so you endorsed former president donald trump in an op-ed in the wall street journal and you wrote the deepstate will attempt to undercut him even more than it did in his first term. >> and i'm wondering what you mean by that because a lot of people who used the term deep state, sometimes runoff into conspiracy theory, land. what do you mean? >> well, what i'm talking about is the administrative state the unelected bureaucrats who worked for the government, who work in government agencies and in my book, ten years to save the west, what i talk about, what i talk about is the fact that in both the united kingdom and the united states how is it used to lie in the hands of democratically elected politicians? has been outsourced. and that was one of the big issues i faced in number ten, was actions by the

bank of england actions by the office of budget responsibility he fundamentally didn't support the policies. i was trying to pursue. and that is my concern here in the united states, is that not everybody. if donald trump does get elected, is going to back those policies. and i think it's so vital that we revive our economies in the west to be able to take on the authoritarian regimes overseas. >> well, i mean, when he was president, he was able to pass an enormous tax cut. he was able to get a lot of his economic policies through trade policies and such. i didn't see much opposition from the administrative state to that please. >> certainly true that i think the situation is better here in the us than it is in britain. in the us, the president can appoint 3,000 people in the administration in the uk, it's 100 people but what we have seen is we have seen in some government departments in the us, things are difficult to get done by conservatives so

there's been quite a bit of drama here in washington when it comes to funding ukraine and ukraine's ability to beat back the russian onslaught this obviously came after months and months of struggle. >> and with some real dissent from some hardline conservatives on capitol hill. do you support at ukraine, do you support the hardliners in congress who opposed it? >> well, i very much support backing ukraine and making sure that russia is defeated because if we don't defeat russia, if putin isn't pushed out of ukraine. first of all, he won't stop at ukraine the rest of europe is under threat. eastern europe is under threat. >> but also what message would it send to president xi if putin is successful? >> so yes i do have criticisms of the policy overall, i think we should be providing more long-range weapons to ukraine. i think we should be providing planes to ukraine to help them do what is needed. but

fundamentally, i think it's vital for american interests as well as europe's interest that putin does not succeed. >> do you have any advice for relatively new house speaker mike johnson? >> i don't think are best place to give advice having been deposed as private as what i do see a lot of commonality between what's happening in britain with the conservative party and the fact that we keep replacing r prime minister on what is happening in the house of representatives with the speaker being under threat. and what i think is how in both countries is there is a battle about the future of conservatism and what conservative stand for so we are in very difficult times, but i feel that i'm possibly the worst person to advise speaker johnson on his position at the moment. >> so there have been some rather colorful reviews of your book. the times wrote to be fair to prime minister trust. it turns out to have been the perfect advertisement for the

experience at awaits anyone who reads this confused and confusing accounted for journey from obscurity to notoriety. i'm just wondering that combined with the head of lettuce and combined with a rather vicious press corps that you have in the uk how have you managed to keep your sense of humor about this? have the insults stung? was it difficult not to take it personally? how do you deal with it all like, of course it's not nice being personally attacked, but i always feel when people attack me personally or make pure island celts is because they don't have a real answer to the arguments i'm making. >> the arguments, i'm making that conservatives haven't won the argument for the last few decades, even though it, we've been in government in the uk, we haven't been recently in government in the us. >> the book also has some fun observations from your time at ten downing street, including dealing with a flea infestation? which i was not

aware of before i went to ten downing for our interview not long ago would you ever want to live there again? >> it certainly isn't it betty ways is a difficult place to live. we had to have the place fumigatus because of the fleas. i was constantly itching during my time there, there's also a clock that goes off every 15 minutes. so if you do suffer from insomnia you're constantly reminded of what time it is all say somebody comes on like it makes it very easy for a prime minister. it's no, it's not easy. and i think one of the things i say in my book is the kind of support that the us president would get in terms of medical support, is not available to the british prime minister. and that was a huge problem when boris was in office and had ovid and almost died. no, there was no medical support. number ten, so even from my brief experience there, i think we should do more to support our prime minister to be able to do the job all

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