ukraine into a cold and dark winter by striking their power grid ukraine's have fallen crannies and fought back defending are contrary and a families extraordinary courage. >> you many of you been there with me many times. it's amazing what they do. i mentioned amazing against such a larger military ukraine is regained over half the territory that russia took from him in his invasion. and they want important victories against russia's navy but make no mistake about there are fighting force with the will and the skill to win. the will and the skill and wind for months, while maga republicans are blocking aid, ukraine has been running out of artillery shells and ammunition meanwhile, putin's friends keep giving him, keeping well supplied are ran, sent him drones. north korea has sent a ballistic missiles and artillery shells. china has provided components and know-how to boost russia's

defense production with all the support. russia has ramped up as airstrikes against ukrainian cities. and critical infrastructure rain down munitions on your brave ukrainians defending their homeland now, america, you're going to send ukraine and supplies they need to keep them in the fight. this weekend or reports. this is i find this amazing reports of cheers breaking out of the trenches in eastern ukraine probably came from one of your folks reporter or some i'm not sure it came from but as they're sharing, as they watch the house vote in support for ukraine. it's not like they don't understand what we've done not like they don't understand how critical this is for that i'm making sure the shipment start right away in the next few hours, literally, a few hours we're going to began sending him equipment to ukraine for air defense munitions, for artillery, for rocket systems and armored vehicles this

package is literally an investment not only in your rent in ukraine, security, but in europe security and our own security we're sending ukraine equipment from our own stockpiles. then will replenish. so stockpiles with new products made by american companies here in america patriot missiles made in arizona javelins may now obama artillery shells made ohio, pennsylvania, and texas in other words, we're helping you off the same time, invested in our own industrial base, strengthening our own national security supporting jobs and nearly 40 states all across america united states is not acting alone to state the obvious our allies in europe and around the world who for constantly been asking me, are we going to step up? we're not going to walk away. are we how many and some of you bet it is international media there are very concerned had we fail to step up lord only knows what would happen to the cohesion and nato. were also said, they're also sent a

significant health to ukraine. were all standing together against his brutal dictator as i've argued for miles this is directly, directly in the united states national security interest. it prudent triumph, triumphs in ukraine the next move a russian forces could very well be a direct attack on a nato ally and you all know full well that invoking article five and northridge treaty would be the first thing that comes to mind, which declares an attack on one is an attack on all imprudent attacks. a native i'll i like he's attacking ukraine today. we'd have no choice but to come to their aid just like our nato allies came to our lay areva after the september 11th attacks, it that's why we're supporting and surgery support. now, do you grant to stop putin from drawing the united states into the war in europe and in the future hey zomi we should take a little. bit of a step back and realize what a critical moment this was for the united states and for nato.

this is a historical moment. in the last two years, we've helped unify, strengthen, and expand nato imagine if instead we had failed, we had failed to step up now and towards ukraine all those gains would have begun to unravel the cohesion of data would have been weakened. and our national security would have been undermined without any question putin start at this war, believing he could easily break the will of the people of ukraine, when that failed, he changed the strategy a little bit. think, we break to break through the will of nato, break the will of the united states break are well all he's failed again america stands with our friends we stand up against dictators. we bow to know what, to know one certainly not vladimir putin. look this bill also includes vital support for israel just ten days ago we saw ran launch over 100 missiles and drones. it israel because of them and other allies across

the world, including from the region known no serious damage occurred an unprecedented attack that followed years of around supporting hezbollah, hamas and proxies that are on their own attack on israel. they fund these guys my commitment to israel. i want to make clear again, as ironclad the security of israel critical it will always make sure that israel has what it needs to defend itself against iran, a terrorist is supports with this aid, the united states is going to help replenish israel's air defense and provide other critical events. so ran can never carry out to destruction contended with its attack ten days ago about the same time this bill significantly significantly increases humanitarian assistance. we're sending the innocent people of gaza are suffering badly are suffering the consequences of this war that hamas started and we've been working intently for months to get as much aid

to gaza as possible. this bill includes $1 from additional humanitarian aid in gaza. we're going to meet in the secure that aid and surgeon surgeon, including food medical supplies, clean water israel must make sure all this aid reaches a palestinians in gaza without delay. and everything we do is guided by the ultimate goal of bringing this hostages home. securing a ceasefire, and setting the conditions for an enduring peace there's more that this bill does. as you all know, the press here including provided for support to strengthen even further, our allies and partners end up pacific region, as well as humanitarian aid to places including haiti, sudan, and somalia but there's one thing that's bill does not do border security and now adjust this year. i proposed and negotiated and agreed to the strongest border security bill that's

country has ever, ever, ever seen it was bipartisan. it should have been included in this bill and i'm determined to get it done for the american people from i'll come back to that and another moment. but time. >> this is a reminder. >> what american your new when we come together, despite our differences i want to thank everyone in congress. i made it possible especially the bipartisan leadership speaker of the house, mike johnson, leader jeffries, leader schumer mcconnell they don't always agree but when it matters most they stepped up and did the right thing and i mean, this sincerely, history will remember this time. history, remember this moment for all the talk about how dysfunctional things are washington when you look over the past three years, we see the time and again on the critical issues we've actually come together. hadn't always been easy but when it's comp khandra decide to rebuild america. we did with a bipartisan infrastructure which is just underway when it came

time to invest in our semiconductor industry and techno technologic technologies as future. we did it with the chips and science act i want to came time to stand with ukraine and israel and help the people of gaza. we did that as well. >> at the end of the day most of us, whether we're democrats, republicans, or independents believe that america must stand up for what is right? >> we don't walk away from our allies. we stand with them, we don't let tyrants when we oppose them. we don't really watch global events unfold. we shape them. that's what it means to be the indispensable nation. that's an amazing to be the world's superpower and the world's leading democracy some of our maga, republican men's reject that fisher but this vote makes it clear. there is a bipartisan consensus for that kind of american leadership. that's exactly what we'll continue to deliver. i thank you all very much. and i'm going off to make a speech at a hotel. i'm late for plenty of time to answer questions on this and other matters.

>> a quick one on tiktok all right so there we have the president united states after signing the legislation into law, billions and billions of dollars for ukraine, for israel, for taiwan, as well as for the palestinians in gaza house right now, the president was clearly pleased by the bipartisan support in the house of representatives and in the senate for this very, very large foreign aid bill. >> at one point, he said, when our allies are stronger, we are stronger and we rose to the moment at, at the end of his remarks, he thanked the republicans speaker of the house, and the bipartisan leadership for getting this legislation passed. i want to bring in cnn's arlette science. she's joining us from the white house, fred pleitgen in kyiv, ukraine for us are let, let me quickly start with you. a huge win for the biden administration. president signed off. also as part of this built potentially a tiktok

ban a does his campaign recognize how popular the site is, especially among younger americans, potential voters out there is the biden campaign. right now concerned about this new legislation potentially could ban tiktok well, the biden campaign is waiting and allowing that process to play out in the wake of this bill as president biden signed it just now into law and big questions going forward about what this could mean for the future of tiktok. >> and that is incredibly popular among young voters. but president biden really use this moment to try to take a step back and celebrate the fact that congress was able to work in a bipartisan fashion to get this additional aid to ukraine and israel, the president in his remarks acknowledged that it was a difficult path. but in the end, there was bipartisan bipartisan consensus work through the congressional leadership, including house speaker mike johnson, who the white house really corded for

months as they tried to get this bill across the finish line. now, i think it's noteworthy president biden also tried to stress the speed with which they are trying to get this aid to ukraine. he said that they have to keep them in the fight and we need to move fast. he said that engine just a matter of hours, the us will begin to disperse that new weaponry and equipment to ukraine after months where ukrainian soldiers have faced ammunition shortages on the battlefield, we've been told sources tell us that first dispatch is expected to total around one billion. president biden spoke with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy on monday to talk through what this package can look like. one thing that's zelenskyy has been pushing for, for some time is for longer range atacms to be provided by the us. it's possible that that could be coming in the near future. but on top of this assistance for ukraine, you also have current president biden talk about the additional aid that they will be given to israel as it seeks to continue to try to defend

itself. and he was quite pointed in noting that the $26 billion going to israel also includes some humanitarian assistance for gaza. he said it's about $1 billion. and that the white house is stressing to israel that they need to act without delay to get that a directly into the palestinian people's hands to president really trying to step back and take this moment to celebrate the fact that they were able to pass these two key foreign aid measures for both ukraine and israel after months of constant twists and turns from the republicans, especially as they had put up some resistance, say passing aid for ukraine. one thing that president biden pointed to their is that these ukrainian soldiers who were running out of ammunition, that that was due in part to what the president described as maga republicans who had continued to block this bill. so he has around each corner really trying to assign some blame in this uh, to those maga

republicans as he describes them, even as they've been trying to work with house speaker mike johnson for months now, behind the scenes, i'm told that the president in his directed to his team as they were trying to get this aid across the finish line. he really wanted to draw a very stark picture of what was at stake, not just for ukraine, but also for the united states national security interests for europe's interests as well. if this aid wasn't going to get to those soldiers, he wanted to provide specific intelligence examples. he's also urged his team to lay off directly attacking johnson as this process played out to president biden today, allowing a key step as he now signed this legislation and they're hoping to get that weaponry and equipment into ukrainian soldiers hands as soon as possible let signs as the white i stand by. >> we're going to get back to you. i want to go to fred pleitgen. he's joining us now from odesa. he's not in kyiv. these in odesa just want to correct that it was interesting. i thought fred i'm sure ukrainians will be very pleased when they heard the president of the united states say this additional military assistance, this

military aid for ukraine. the president said, we'll start right away. in fact, the next few hours, the shipments will begin to help the ukrainian military. what's been the reaction so far to this bipartisan legislation? passing the house. now the senate and the president, united states signing it into law a huge relief for the ukrainians wolf, it's something that we've been hearing from ukrainian politicians over the past couple of days. they obviously understood that it getting through the house was really the biggest hurdle and volodymyr zelenskyy came out just a couple of minutes afterwards. i'm really thank the united states. thank both parties also for making this happen. i think it was quite interesting also to hear president biden talk about what a difficult process all of this was, and of course, you're absolutely right. well, he said that this aid will happen in the next couple of hours, we'll get going and that for the ukrainians they say is absolutely key. in fact, the president of this country, volodymyr zelenskyy earlier this morning said that the ukrainians really need ammunition badly, but also need air defense interceptor

missiles to stop missiles hitting their cities. and in fact, where i'm right now, wolff, the city of odesa is one that's been hit a lot in the past couple of weeks in the ukrainians are saying they haven't had enough missiles to intersect with the russians are shooting this way. of course, this is a key port town, for the ukrainians. in fact, as i'm speaking to you right now, we are under an air raid warning under a possible missile or drone alert, and it's something that you really see here in odesa pretty much constantly that you have these air raid sirens going off and then you have the alerts in place. that's where we're under right now. now. so ukrainians are saying that it's absolutely key to get more air defense weapons, but also of course, to replenish the stocks of air defense missiles that they've been lacking over the past couple of months and one of the things that i've also seen on the front lines of wolf that's really been getting worse for the ukrainians also in the past month, i think i started reporting on it in september of last year was the shortage of artillery ammunition. the ukrainians, in some cases, having to fire smoke shells at

russian positions because they don't have regular artillery shells to fire at the russians anymore. that's of course has helped the russians events. i thought it was quite interesting that president biden also pointed out that the russian military has been making some gains because of those ammunition shortages that the ukrainians have been suffering from. one of the things that we've seen over the past couple of days is that especially in the east of the country near that key town of bakhmut, but also south of that as well. there have been some russian gains that so far aren't strategic in nature yet. they haven't taken any large towns, but they certainly have gained territory. the ukrainians are saying they definitely need especially artillery ammunition, high mars ammunition, artillery rockets to try and hold the russians up and then possibly push the russians back. wolf i thought it was also significant. i'm sure you did as well. fred, that the president used very, very tough language, strong language in condemning putin of russia at one point, he said he's a brutal dictator. he says putin is failing once

again, the united states will not bow to anyone. certainly not to put that's a direct quotes from the president of the united states. certainly very, very strong warnings to putin to stop what the russians have been doing in ukraine over the past what, two years now? >> yeah, absolutely. and i think for the ukrainians, it will be very, very important to have heard that as well. i think one of the things that we've heard and i think president biden also spoke about it as well when he spoke about people actually celebrating in the trenches when they heard about the vote that was going on, we actually spoke to soldiers who were fighting in the trenches on the front lines and they did firm that of course they were following the news about the vote that was happening in the house. and of course, they were absolutely thrilled that the vote came through. but i think for them also, we very important to have heard president biden condemn vladimir putin and say that the us will not bow down one of the things that we heard from soldiers who were fighting on the front lines is that many of them have felt almost a sense of abandonment over the past

couple of months as they've been running out of shells, as they've been witnessing, of course, what's been going on in washington, especially in the house of representatives, the aid not coming through for them, they say, what they've heard in the past couple of days and now of course as well is a huge brown boost, both. >> all right, fred pleitgen in odesa, if those sirens start going off and missiles and drones start coming and take cover and we'll stay in close touch with you. appreciate it very much. and as i always say to your stay safe over there, want to go back to the white house right now. are left signs is still with us, are led to understand that the biden administration is not moving quickly for, you yet, another significant aid package to ukraine tell us what you're learning. >> yeah, that's right. well, if moments after president biden has signed this new aid package for ukraine the pentagon announced that they have actually started with this $1 in immediate assistance being offered to ukraine. now, this will include in, a way range of weapons and equipment trying to get it directly into ukrainian

soldiers hands that will include those himars that fred was just talking about. also artillery rounds, bradley infantry fighting vehicles, stinger anti aircraft missiles, and much more as you heard from president biden, he said that they want to try to get this in to ukraine within the coming hours. cnn has previously reported that euros us european command had been working behind the scenes trying to process this weaponry so that it would be ready to deploy for the ukrainians as soon as this legislation passed, and president biden signed it into law, and you really heard the urgency from president biden then as he said, that he wanted people to act quickly to get aid but also to ensure that they continue to equip ukrainian soldiers as they are waging their fight against russia. so pentagon acting very quickly on the heels of president biden signing this aid package into law as they are trying to show that the us continues to build its support for ukraine, of course, biden has staked so much of the past

two years on trying to rally that western support for ukraine, there were big questions as this drama unfolded on capitol hill, whether the us actually would be able to meet those obligations on their end, you heard biden often talking about you brain saying that the us would be ready to provide aid as long as it takes. and there were these subtle shifts saying that they would provide aid as long as possible. but now it's clear that biden now has that new aid in hand able to disperse that not not just sending a message to ukraine, but also to putin and to the world, as he said, that people will take notice that american leadership will continue on the world stage, especially when it comes to this issue, whether ukraine yeah, history unfolding as we're reporting it right now, let's science at the white house, fred pleitgen in odesa, ukraine to both of you. thank you very much. will, of course, in very close touch with both of you up next we have the first proof that an israeli-american hostage survive, being badly wounded back at october 7. more on that

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>> well, we'll first goldberg-polin as a 23-year-old israeli american citizen who was taken hostage by hamas on october 7 while he was attending that super nova music festival. and on the day of that attack, we actually saw a video of him appearing to be quite seriously injured two part of his hands. in this video that has now been released today, this is the first time that we are seeing him alive in a video since october 7. and in this video, a part of his left arm including his hand, is missing. it's not clear if it was me putatively or simply part of the injuries that he sustained on that date of october 7. but he is alive in this video and it is the first proof of life that the family has actually seen since he was taken hostage. we don't know exactly when this video was filmed, wolf, but there are several indicators in what he says in this video that suggests that it was filmed quite recently. he talks about the fact that he has been held for nearly 200 days. this week

is when we are marking 200 days since october 7, he also talks about the holidays. we know that we are currently in the jewish holiday of passover, although he doesn't say passover specifically, but the bottom line will for his family at least would we have relentlessly advocated for his release of since the beginning of this war, since their son was taken hostage, both in israel as well as in the united states. this is the first time that they are able to actually see and hear from their son, which must be incredibly moving. of course, for families who have suffered so much uncertainty he, this doesn't of course, quell all of that uncertainty, but it is the first time that they are able to actually see him since october 7. now, we need to note the fact that hamas is releasing this, of course, at a very sensitive time, at a time where we have watched over the last couple of weeks as these negotiations have stalled at best. and really backslid according to several accounts counts with hamas offering less than half the number of hostages that they had previously been talking about

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>> now that law prevents doctors from performing abortions for pregnant women, having a non-life-threatening medical emergency, like organ failure or infertility. right now, the government is a presenting its case, the crux of its argument. this law harms women and the nation's public health. let's listen in writing now the us solicitor general, elizabeth prelogar and justice ketanji brown jackson are going back-and-forth criminal prosecution. the doctors can't provide the care because until they conclude can conclude that a prosecutor looking over their shoulder won't second guess that maybe it wasn't really necessary to prevent death. >> thank you. council. justice thomas this is leto we've now heard let's see an hour-and-a-half of argument on this case, and one potentially very important phrase in emtala has hardly been mentioned maybe it hasn't even been mentioned

at all. >> and that is emtala was reference to the woman's quote, unquote, unborn child in an odd phrase to put in a statute that imposes a mandate to perform abortions. have you ever seen an abortion statute that uses the phrase unborn child it's not an odd phrase when you look at what congress was doing in 1989, there were well-publicized cases where women were experiencing conditions, their own health and life. >> we're not in danger, but the fetus was engraved distress it's an hospitals weren't treating them well what is that a new scene? abortion statutes that use the phrase unborn child doesn't that tell us something? >> it tells us that congress wanted to expand the protection for pregnant women so that they could get the same duties to screen and stabilize when they have a condition that's threatening the health and well-being of the unborn child. but what it doesn't suggest is that congress simultaneously displaced the independent pre-existing obligation to

treat a woman who herself is facing grave life and health consequence. >> let's walk through the provisions of the statute shoot that are relevant to this issue regarding the status and the potential interests of an unborn child under b. the woman goes to hospital with an emergency medical condition that's the phrase hospital must either stabilize the condition were under some circumstances, tran as far the woman to another facility so we have this phrase emergency medical condition in that provision and then under e the term vertical and emergency medical condition is defined to include a condition that places the health of the woman's unborn child in serious jeopardy so in that situation, the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plain meaning is that the hospital must try to eliminate any immediate

threat to the child, but performing an abortion is antithetical to that duty but i'm using you go so far as to say that the statute it is clear in your favor. i i don't know how you can say that in light of those provisions that i've just read to you, the statute did nothing to displace the woman herself as an individual in an emergency medical condition when her life is in danger, when her health is in danger, that stabilization obligation equally ones to her and makes clear that the hospital has to give her necessary stabilizing treatment and in many of the cases you're thinking about, there is no possible way to stabilize the unborn child because the fetus is sufficiently before my ability that it's inevitable that the pregnancy is going to be lost, but idaho would deny women treatment in that circumstance doesn't even though it's senseless, doesn't what i've read to you show that the statute imposes on the hospital a duty to the woman, certainly. and also a duty b to the trial. and it doesn't tell the hospital how it is to adjudicate conflicts between

those interests and it leaves that too state law and maybe a lot most of your argument today has been dedicated to the proposition that the idaho laws of bad law and that may well be the case but what you're asking us to do is to construe this statute that was enacted back during the reagan administration and signed by president reagan to mean that there's an obligation under certain circumstances to perform an abortion even if doing that is a violation of state law. >> if congress had wanted to displace protections for pregnant women who are in danger of losing their own lives where their health than it could have redefined the statute so that the fetus itself is an individual with an emergency medical condition, but that's now how congress structured this. instead, it put the protection in to expand protection for the pregnant woman. the duty is still run to her. and in a situation where her own life and health is gravely endangered. then in that situation, i'm taller, is clear. it says the hospital has to offer her stabilizing treatment. she doesn't have to accept it. these are tragic

circumstances and many women want to do whatever they can to save that pregnancy. but the statute protects her and gives her that choice only way you try to get out of statutory interpretation that i just positive is by focusing on the term individual. and you say aha in the dictionary, act individual is defined to exclude an unborn child or a fetus that's the only way you can try to get out of what i've just outlined and isn't a true that under the dictionary, that dictionary act definitions apply only if they are not inconsistent with the statutory text. and when you have a text that certainly you wouldn't dispute the fact that at the hospital has a duty to the unborn child where the woman wants to wants to have the pregnancy you to term it's indisputably protects the interests of the unborn child. so it's inconsistent with the definition in the dictionary act.

>> no, not at all. the duty runs to the individual with the emergency medical condition. the statute makes clear that's the pregnant woman. and of course, congress wanted to be able to protect her in situations where she's suffering some kind of emergency in her own health, isn't at risk, but the fetus might die that includes common things like a prolapse of the umbilical cord into the cervix for the fetus is in grave distress, but the woman is not at all affected. hospitals otherwise wouldn't have an obligation to treat her and congress wanted to fix that. but to suggest that in doing so, congress suggested that the woman herself isn't an individual, that she doesn't deserve stabilization. i think that that is a and it ronial reading of this. nobody's suggesting that a woman is not an individual when she doesn't she doesn't deserve stabilization well, that premise of the question would be that the state of boston you can declare that she cannot get the stabilizing treatment even if she's about to die. hi, that is their theory of this case and this statute and it's wrong justice sotomayor general, this lack of conflict,

which you're opposing colleague says doesn't exist. >> you mentioned a situation where it does why don't you succinctly state what you what they admit their stay light tell us exactly how you define where the dennett lot daily light exists the daylight is ice. >> it exists on two-dimensions. they think that doctors can only provide stabilizing care when the woman is facing death. and we think no, you can take into account things like kidney failure, the risk of a seizure, and lifelong neurological impacts based on the boost said the recent decision out of the oregon court says you don't need deaf to be eminent or immediate. i think is the word they used to if i'm not so what the idaho supreme court said et in that decision is that there's no particular level of imminency and no certain percent chance requirement.

>> but what the court couldn't do is turn away from the language requiring the type of harm to exclusively b. death and also the inherent concept of necessity requiring some degree of eminence. it's true that it's a subjective standard under idaho law and the court made that clear but what the idaho's supreme court also said is prosecutors are free to come in and have other medical experts second-guessed doctors decisions by saying maybe you didn't subjectively think she really needed it as necessary? theory to prevent death because look her, her faq had ruptured but she wasn't yet infected and that's exactly the kind of situation that leads to women being driven out of state, dumped on neighboring states. it's by idaho and criminalizing the care of the essential care that they need thank you justice kagan yeah. >> if you could just talk a little bit about that, because as i understood it, for example, people i read recently that the hospital that has the greatest emergency room services in idaho has just in the few months that this has it's been in place, had to airlift six pregnant women to neighboring states. whereas in

the prior year, they did one the entire year. so if mr. turner is right about what the state is trying to convey to hospitals about when there'll be prosecuted like, why is this happening? >> i think that the reason this is happening is because those doctors can look at the text of the statute itself. they can look at the idaho supreme the court's decision which made clear, very clear that this was a departure from prior idaho laws that tracked emtala and they can recognize that their livelihood is on the line. they're medical license, their ability to practice medicine, their freedom if they have to go to jail and serve one of these minimum two years sentences of imprisonment, and they simply cannot provide the care even consistent with their subjective medical judgment because as a matter matter of medical reality, for many of these conditions, it's not yet putting a woman at the brink of death or necessary to prevent her death? get they know that the standard of care is to provide her with termination because she is just going to get worse and worse and worse if they waited out. and the

other important points about this, and i think it goes back to this dual stable one idea is that tragically in many of these cases, the pregnancy is lost. there's not gonna be any way to save that fetus because a woman who has p prom, its 17 weeks there is no medical way to sustain the pregnancy to give the fus a chance. sin that sittion, atdaho is doing is waiting for women to wait and deteriora and suffer the lifeng health poss upside for the fetus, just stacks tragedy upon tragedy. >> and it can't be the answer. it's become transfer is the appropriate standard of here in idaho, but it can't be the right standard of care to force somebody onto a helicopter. >> and it's entirely inconsistent with what congress was trying to do in the statute one of the primary motivators here was to prevent patient dumping. the idea was, we don't want people to have to go somewhere else to get their care. you go to the first emergency room in your state and you have to treat you and stabilize you. but this effectively allows states to take any particular treatment they don't want their hospitals to provide and dump those patients out of state.

and you can imagine what would happen every state started to take this approach a question on the spending clause, questions that you've been asked. i mean, what would if you accept it? some of these theories, what what would the consequences of something like that be that we would have to worry about that. i think that it would call into question any number of federal spending statutes that provide funds to private parties. >> and there are a bunch of them. there's going to care system itself, which is of course a major federal spending program there are funds provided under title six, under title nine i'm a lot of federal statutes out there that give funds to private parties and insist on conditions of compliance with the federal funding restrictions. and if the court were to suddenly say that i can't preempt contrary state law that i think that it would seriously interfere with the ability of the federal government to get its benefit of the bargain in those spending programs and new mentioned before where did this question has never been a part of this case? that's right. they did not make these arguments in the lower courts. they briefly refer to the spending clause, but i don't

understand them to have pressed this argument meant specifically. and so i think that the lower courts did not address it. i think the district court said in a footnote, they briefly refer to it in a footnote of their brief and it's essentially waived. >> thank you justice kavanaugh. all right. we're going to continue to monitor the supreme court oral arguments on this important abortion rights. so related issue, want to bring in our chief legal affairs correspondent, paula reid, cnn's medical correspondent, meg tirrell, and sowing a suitor, professor of law at the george washington univerty scol of lal's talk, first of allapolar, remind us what's at stake rht now. >> this is one of the major estions about what the justice's menn after they overturned roe v. wade. this is one i know that a cases that's gone back up to clarify. okay. you kick this back down the ates. that's more complicated than you realize. this case specifically focuses on the state of idaho and a care for pregnant won women now, under t abortion ban in idaho, there is an exction for women to have an abortion

if their life is arisk, if that's part of at is needed to save their life with a den adminiration has come in the filed a lawsuit and said, actually, under federal law, you shouldn't have to wait until a life is at risk. instead, you can perform this procedure if you need to do so to stabilize a woman. so that is the crux of this argume today. and again, this is one a few cases we're seeing this term. the justices have to grapple with their decision to significant cision that's whyy w'reonitoring and meg tirrell, i'm actuallyo get in these oral oral arguments about women having to go out of ste, ida in this pticular case tget an abortion, tha poteially coulsave that woman's fe? yeah. we've been to idaho to talk with doctors and patients there to hear about the effects of this the abortion ban. and that's something we heard from ctors. wtalkedith one doctor at the main health care system, the biggest hospital in the state called st. luke's. and she tolds in the first prenatal visits r her patients. w she's the family medicine psician. she counsels them on what to expect

from pregnancy and she say you shouldrobably get life flight insurance so that if you have an emergency and this is a rare complication, but we'll have to fly you out of state and we heard this from the justices just now talking about some data provided by saying it looks that last year when there was an injunction on this whole emtala aspect of the ban, one patient was transferred out of state just in the first few months of this year while that ban was lifted, and idaho's full band could go into effect, six patients were transferred that wou annualizeo 20 for this year. so that's a small number of patients. these are rare emergencies, but it's a 20 fold increase there saying because they don't have these emtala protect sections. >> tala stands for the emergency medical treatment and labor act, which congress passed back in 1986. so new year, the law professor give us your major takeaway from what's been going on today. >> yeah. well, i think not surprisingly, the conservative if justices alito thomas and gorsuch seemed skeptical. but i think there's some real uncertainty about amy coney

barrett and the chief justice, obviously the liberal justices it seemed to be in favor of what the government's arguing i you know, i think having i was just speaking before we started talking now, so i'm curious to see what cabinet asks the solicitor general but i think there's some unrtainty. there was a lot of focus on the federal conscience clause and whether doctors were required to perform abortions. if i'm taller would demand to stabilize medical carand the question of the status of e unborn child. the reference to that in the statute did come up with alito, which could have implications for person hood is the obligation equal to the unborn child and to the mother. but that's the only justice who's really talked about that issue. i thought there might have been more dcussion. they're very interesting ula, when will theine justices? sayyed this case, which could have major ramifications outside of idaho two. yeah absolutely. >> we expect much. are there major decisions will be revealed in late june, potentially even the early july. that is, of course the

heart of campaign season. so it's so significant to remember that in this case, also in the other major abortion case which deals with mifepristone are the drugs used in medication? patient abortion. >> these two cases have, have considerable impacts and the women who even need that medication or need that procedure that could have an enormous impact on the outcome of the presidential race. >> we obviously cover a lot out of supreme court cases related to the elections specifically to former president trump. i would argue that the outcome of these two cases will likely have a far more significant impact on trump's chances of retaking the white house then any of the cases related to him, because while historically abortion has been an issue that has galvanized republicans, we've seen in the midterm since roe was overturned. this is now an issue that can truly galvin but is democrats could be a huge, huge political issue going into the general election that guys thank you very, very much. still had this hour the deadline for those pro-palestinian protesters to leave columbia university in new york has come now and gone. but their tent eampments stl stands. we'll have a live

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must undergo a background check, obtain a handgun carry permit, and complete firearm safety training. >> it's now headed to the desk of republican governor bill lee. this legislation comes nearly a year after tennessee's deadly is school shooting. when three children and three adults were killed at a private ellis from entering school in nashville. house speaker mike johnson, meanwhile, will pay a visit to new york's columbia university in just a few hours where he says, he will call for the schools president to resign we'll be hosting a press conference there with some of my colleagues from the house republicans from new york to call on the president of the university to resign. >> it's unconscionable this president shafik, is and shown to be a very weak and ep leader. they they cannot even guarantee the safety of jewish students there. they're expected to run for their lives and stay home from class

overnight a new deadline went into effect for a pro-palestinian protests ongoing at columbia university, student protesters who have been camping on school grounds now for over a week, now have less than 48 hours to pack up and leave according to the school's president cnn correspondent omar jimenez is joining us right now. >> he's live at columbia university on the campus, o'mara today marks what de eight of protests where you are. what are you hearing from students and faculty there about the house speaker's upcoming visit today. >> yeah. so de a of the cabinet led protests here at columbia university, house speaker mike johnson is expected to visit a little bit later. this afternoon where he's going to meet with jewish students here and also call a press conference likely to say some of what we've already heard today, calling on columbia university president minouche to 50k to resign. he's called her a weak leader and expanding more to the protests that we've seen across the country on similar college campuses, saying that it is maddening what we're seeing on these

college campuses across the country, calling it disgusting and unacceptable. now as for those that are camping out, they say they are not going anywhere until their demands are met those demands, at least some of them, the main focal point that they have told me is that they want columbia university to divest from corporations that support israel. here that is sort of the core of why this camping out began in it started to line up with when their university president was testifying on capitol hill last week bao anti-semitism on college campuses. now, we have seen protests span fr that. some of them on campus as part of the encampment, but also some outside of campus, essentially where i am right now at the gates of columbia university and we've seen a rae of forms of protests. we've see some that had been very peaceful for calling for solidarity with gaza. some that have just tried to call for unity. others though, much more violent and rhetoric, much more

anti-semitic and read a good portion of which have come from those protests that have been outside campus so much soda. the point that students have tried to distance themselves from those coming on the outside, but that hasn't that's not to say there are not tensions on campus where many jewish students have said that they do not feel safe. and as part of why the school has gone hybrid in this learning, interesting, yeah, it's very disturbing to see what's going on. >> omar columbia university certainly isn't the only university where these protests have been taking place. so tell us what else is going yeah. >> so obviously here at columbia university, we saw the encampment start last week. we've also seen similar and cabinets pop up. its schools like emerson college, for example, in the northeast, but also protests at yale university in york university. both of both locations where we saw multiple arrests happen over the past few days out in california. california polytechnic, there's humboldt, there's also a large set of

protests going on there at university of michigan. the point is that at college campuses, coast to coast, there had been at the very least similar styles of protests. what we've seen here at columbia all in either solidarity with this campus, but also pro-palestine protests as well. now, as far as when this could potentially come to an end here at columbia the university president has been locked in negotiations with students, with student leaders, essentially she had set a midnight deadline last night to clear out or reach an agreement to clear out the encampments. otherwise, they would have to find alternative means to clear out the encampment's they seem to make good progress. and so now that deadline has been pushed back another 48 hours. but previously wolf, she sent in the nypd to clear out these encampments, drawing a lot of criticism from students and professors. we don't know what those alternative ways to clear out the encampment that she mentioned could be once we hit that 48 hour martin will stay in close touch with you, omar jimenez, in new york for a summer thank you very, very much into our vi