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newsgroup he has a decision to make. what what is he going to do? and i think it's going to speak volumes about not only him, but what nbc news represents as an organization moving forward a lot of people watching the what's next very closely, oliver darcy. thank you so much for your reporting >> cnn breaking news all right. at any moment, donald trump is expected to arrive at a new york city courthouse. he faces quite a day. >> he >> does one case as they could land him behind bars, the other that puts his fortune, his properties, and honestly maybe his pride at risk. trump will appear in front of a judge for for a hearing in his criminal hush money case. this involves adult film star stormy daniels and his former fixer, michael cohen, the judge today could set a trial date. we do backed trump to speak before he goes into core. now, this is a location he has been known to
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rant, but that's not even the most pressing issue today for trump. the deadline has rob tuesday for the former president to pay the $464 million bond in his new york civil fraud case. if he is unable well, to do that, new york's ag is set to go after his banker crowds and business properties. cnn's kaitlan collins is outside the court in new york city for us caitlin, what you're expecting today, how is it going to play out >> i mean, that is a great question. sarah could really be anything that we are witnessing today is these two crises are facing trump and confronting him both here happening in the same city, but good is that as courthouse here behind us where we are seated here in new york or trump could soon find out when exactly he could be the first former president to go on criminal trial. but as we are waiting to figure out what is happening with that case, of course, trump is facing something that is consuming him much more, and that is this
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bond that he has been enable to have a giant and any kind of insurance giant underwrite it. his attorneys have not said in the last several days whether or not he is unable to find any solution to that. and we know today is when that 30 day grace period lapses, which it means that the attorney general could move here to enforce that soon and you can see that this is what trump is much more concerned about when you just look at his own social media on truth, social post so staying just in the last half hour about this, saying that he could be forced to sell his quote, babies. obviously our reference there to his assets that could be on the line as he is now trying to figure out how to handle the solution. but right now his legal team and the former president himself are preparing to enter this courthouse behind us. we have cnn's paula reid and kristen holmes here with me as we are often, always so out here in front of the courthouse and paul, obviously, we'll talk about what's happening with the bond, but what's happening behind us? the remarkable in and of itself, because today was just would be the first day that trump is going on trial. and instead now his team is
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trying to get a dismissed, at least we know there is going to be a until april 15th. what is going to happen in time that courthouse today? >> this morning, trump's lawyers, instead of beginning the first criminal trial against former president trump, they're going to argue for why this should be postponed even further, they want 90 days or dismissed outright because it just a few weeks ago, the federal government's, the justice department handed over 100,000 documents, new pieces of evidence now this is a state case in this new evidence came from the justice department related to its investigation and prosecution of michael cohen, who is at the heart of this hush money case, where they allege trump paid hush money to stormy daniels out of the 2016 election to help his chances they say in that race, and then they charged him with falsifying business records to cover up why he was paying michael cohen back. so cohen is a key part of this in terms lawyers argue, look, we need 90 days to go through all of this. we believe that some of this is exculpatory are helpful to our client the district attorney,
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though, says, no, actually, only small portion of this is relevant. and if it helps anyone at helps us. so we think it's a longshot bid for them too. he dismiss this case. what we are looking forward today is if they set a new trial date and if so, is it 30, 60, or even 90 days out? >> and if it's delayed i mean, that's the question, but they are ultimately seeking to have it dismissed, but trump's legal team really think that that could be what they walk out of this courthouse today with. >> i have not heard that when i'm talking talking to the legal team and i think that again, we know that they will throw anything at the wall and that's what they should do, right? they are exhausting every avenue that's what donald trump pays them to do, is to try and delay each of these cases go down every single pathway that they can. and there's a lot of stuff, even when you talk about the immunity case and the supreme court that they don't believe is actually going to be successful. >> but what one of the things they are hoping for here is more and more delays, particularly budding this up against that november election when they're talking about heading into november, they already feel like this case of the multiple criminal trials
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are cases that he's facing is the most easy for them to paint as political so particularly the club closer they get to the election that for them is a win. >> can we talk about what's actually in these documents? because i know all of it relates back is it seems to always with this case is to michael cohen michael cohen himself has said, these are his texts to his phone calls. all of these documents that they were unable to get their hands on before. i mean, it clearly, the prosecution your realizes the that there was a bit of a mistake with that because they agreed to at least a 30 day delay in this, so they could sort through it. >> do >> we know if it actually would be anything that's exculpatory for donald trump. >> well, again, there's fingers being appointed both ways, right. for why there is a delay and for who actually benefit here, it's our understanding that most of these documents are related to the search warrants that were executed, et the cohen investigation. so these are things going back years about his investigation for campaign finance violations and tax violations is i'm who this would exactly help in this
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case. the biggest question right now though, is why the justice department took so long to hand this over. we know that team subpoenaed this information in january. the trump team has suggested that somehow the district attorney, the state-level prosecutors, have delayed them receiving this evidence, but the district attorney point them, says, no, you intentionally delayed this. you waited until january to subpoena this as part of your delay delay delay strategy. so right now, there's a lot of confusion about exactly what is in the this documents. who will help and why it took so long. i've talking to i talk to former justice department officials, folks who have worked in the southern district of new york, and they agree this is very unusual. >> tool >> and it has already had the effect of delaying what was expected to be the first and possibly the only criminal case to go before the election. >> and we know we're going to see donald trump piece expected to live trump tower shortly. we're preparing for him to arrive here. obviously, this is a courthouse. he has become intimately familiar with, but it's clear, kristen, at what's bothering him much more is what's happening with this? that is only growing by $100,000 a day with the
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interests his team so far has not said that they have found someone magically to be able to help that after setting they had approached 30 different places and not been able to find anything. what have you heard from people about what what they expect to happen today? yeah, almost entirely radio silence in terms promes of whether or not he's going to be able to post that bond and how he would get that money or get those assets. now, obviously, you've heard from donald trump, i mean, this goes to the core of louis, is this essentially for him is an embarrassment because you're talking about seizing assets, you're talking about not having the money to the point where he's boasting online. actually, i do have the cash but it's really hard. i was gonna put towards my campaign. and then you have lawyers, they like none at all. he doesn't actually have the cash. we should note. he hasn't spent money on his own campaign since 60 yeah, exactly there's no indication also from his campaign since early on that he was going to spend any of his own money in fact, at one point, i was told that he offered very early on when there was very little money to give get a little bit. and they told him not to because they
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didn't want to go down that pathway. so no indication at all that he was going to give this kind of cash to his own campaign. >> but again, him claiming the hazard because here we are talking about the fact that donald trump does not have the assets he needs is not have the money to post the bond and that's a hymn, it hidden so i'm at his core because he wants to be portrayed as a successful, wealthy businessman. wael. and i think whatever wants to know is what the attorney general is going to do today, because today she can freeze bank accounts good start seizing assets, but it's much more complicated than that. it's not as simple as just going up to trump tower. >> and the >> sheriff and then she has the deed because how trump has structured his ownership it's something that would take a complicated process to actually unwind that. what's our sense of what the ag is going to do? >> so there's a legal and then there's political legally. we know she is laying in the groundwork to possibly seize assets in westchester county outside manhattan. she has filed certain certain pieces of paper that would allow her to go after assets. there but like you said, it's a process and
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seizing property is much more complicated than trying to seize cash assets within banks. but this is a legal avenues she can pursue. it's a process like you said, we don't expect it to happen today, but there's also the optics, there's the political, i mean, there's an argument to be made that if you start seizing some of trump's and buildings particularly the more iconic ones that politically, that could help him. because the idea of seizing personal property in a case that they have tried so hard to paint as politically motivated that's something that could really not sit well potentially with certain groups of voters. so she has a lot of options if he can't post this bond cash is easier to get with the proper paperwork than it is to seize property. but she's clearly laying the groundwork and it appears that she's in his properties in westchester county. if just to go that way. yeah. and even if it's pulling politically beneficial, it's still something that is clearly a struck a nerve to say the least to the former president, kristin and paula. we hear all morning john, of course, talking about this and waiting to see when the former president himself arrives here. one thing to note, john, he has filed an appeal or it is trying
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to an appeals court to either wave that he has to put up that entire bond. we have not heard from them yet. john, they typically only rule on tuesdays and thursdays. >> yeah, it isn't clear when or if or how they would rule today, but nothing on the schedule. >> it's also >> not exactly clear when or how we're aware. the attorney general of new york was is james would actually start to begin seizing assets or even money. so we're watching that very closely to as the day continues, katelyn will come back to you in just a second. in the meantime, there is the breaking news we got word that the ceo of boeing, dave calhoun, says he is going to step down by the end of the year in a letter to employees calhoun called the alaska airlines door plug incident, a quote, watershed moment for both he said he intends to leave by the end of the year so too will the company's chairman and the head of the commercial aviation units. let's get ready to seen as pete muntean, who's got all the latest here, pete, what have you learned? well, the irony here is that dave
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calhoun came into power after the max eight incidents of 2,018.20, 19 that killed 346 people abroad. now he is leaving as a result of another incident on the max line, the january 5 alaska airlines door plug blowout, the ntsb found in its polling seminary report that boeing forgot to reinsert the four critical bolts at the renton washington factory, something that calhoun himself described as a quality escape. the irony here is very significant. >> again, also >> the surprise that calhoun is not leaving immediately and did not leave any earlier after he made this personal plea on capitol hill to the top senators overseeing aviation, that boeing airplanes are safe and that he's made, please, to airlines ceos that have apparently lost faith in calhoun leading to his departure at the end of 2024 united airlines ceo scott kirby says, it is in question about
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whether or not the airline will fall through followed through with its orders of the max ten plane also, there's been a lot of questions from alaska airlines ceo ben minicucci. they want $150 million in repayments from boeing and damages following the door plug blow up, they had to cancel a few 200 flights each day as a result of those issues, there's also some big questions here about whether or not this should have happened a lot earlier. there's been so much criticism of the workers on the factory floor and they did a safety standard down and reminded by bowing to make sure that every part is in place, also leaving with calhoun are stan deal the head of commercial commercial airplanes division for boeing, also larry kellner, the board chair at boeing, the only other person to leave boeing ahead of this was a relative, no name two people at home. that man who led the max program. this is really significant here, john, and the fact that calhoun is out now is really underscoring the fact the trouble that
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boeing is in. >> yeah, it really shows you how seriously they are taking it though there are still questions about how he'll managed to stick around for the remaining weeks and months that he says he will. pete muntean. thanks so much for this. information. >> all right. former president donald trump, we are seeing now, leaving trump tower heading to face off in two cases one which could be the very first criminal trial he faces if there are no more les. and the other that big bond hearing where he has to pay $464 million or else the aag mason start trying to seize his assets also, the former president lashing out on truth social, this morning, more of our special coverage of head as you see donald trump heading to that court, we may hear from him even in the next few minutes >> space shuttle columbia, the final slide premieres sunday, april 7 at nine on cnn
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>> kane who that. do >> yes. moments ago, we showed you donald leaving trump tower and we expect to see him arrive any moment at a new york courthouse for a hearing in the hush money case against him. also today, he is supposed to secure for 600, million for the bond in the civil fraud judgment case that is now pending against him. yeah. he's got until today to come up with that money or else although isn't exactly clear what or else is right now with the style former manhattan prosecutors, jeremy saland and former federal hello, prosecutor jennifer rodgers and i do want to be transparent here. one of the things we're watching for is to see if donald trump talks at the courthouse where he is right now in a hearing in the criminal case. why because i suppose it's possible he
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announces, you know what, we're not coming up with a bond conclusively today. we don't have the money which means that attorney general letitia james, it's in your course. and then jennifer than was well, the problem here is their assets all over the place, right. so tish james has to decide where to go first. do you go to a bank and you issue a judgment with a bank and try to see his freeze and then sees a bank account, the real estate takes more time, so it's not even like just one thing where she walks into a clerk's office in plunks down the piece of paper and says, we've done it, right? so what she would do i suppose is disperse or people around to the asset she's decided to prioritize which are going to be i think the bank accounts and they'll start filing the papers so think we'll probably hear from her. she'll probably make a statement when she does that. if she doesn't today, tomorrow, whenever jeremy this case also though, is pending because there is an appeal and they're asking either to just throw it out and say, look, trust him, he's a guy that's got a lot of properties and money you don't have to worry about this or to knock down the number. >> will the >> judge or will she wait to
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see what happens there or do you think that this is something that she's like we're going for this. this is the 30 day mark we've already put. she's already put in a plan to try to seize at least one property. >> absolutely. i think it would be smarter. move to wait if we think a judgment pardon me. the appeal is going to be decided in this week or soon thereafter because you don't want to start that process all into roll it back. so i think though that she will go to the banks first because that's easy. you've identified that asset. you can see is that asset you send in new york city would be a sheriff or you can set a marshall. they take a piece of that pie and the rest of it goes to the state of new york. it's fairly simple, but i think she waits would be the smarter move, though, certainly politically, it would be a big statement if she did it just now, >> jennifer, again, we are waiting to see if donald trump uses to speak as he heads into the criminal court right now he has said some things over the last several days that raised eyebrows. number one, he has said he has the bunny before i'm wondering when he speaks out loud, what he could say that would be a problem going forward so we have this appellate division motion right
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where he says, please knock down the amount we can't do it. it's impossible. his lawyers have said, but then it comes out and says i have the money. i just would rather spend it on my campaign. so if you're an appellate division judge and you're sitting with this motion saying it's impossible. we can't do it. that has to give you pause about the truth of that, right? so i think it does make it less likely ugly that the core will intervene if he's saying i have the money, it's just that i want to use it for something else and to be clear, he has not put any money towards a campaign yet so interesting wording there and his, in his truth, social, i do want to ask you about the case where he is going right now and he's headed there at this moment we're watching his car coming up to the courthouse this has been delayed. are ready until april 15, but there were 100,000 documents. the doj sort of held onto last-minute the hands them over. his attorneys say hey, we have to have time to go through this and they have what else might cause this to be delayed because there asking not only for the labor they're asking
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for it to be thrown out as any defense attorney would. >> yeah. i think the bigger issue is the timing. it couldn't that be more documents that 100,000 on its face seems like a lot. it may very well not be a lot, may not all be relevant. some of their baby's easy to parse through, but i think that's going to be the main thrust of his argument. because you already have a decision. i believe it was march 18, merchan issued a decision and addressed what we call molyneux about certain things coming into evidence. so he's already addressed a lot of the substantive issues are underlying issues. so i think today it's just what we've said many, many times that big d not donald delay, delay, delay. >> but what have we learned from this, judge so far? jennifer, in terms of how he's approaching this case in general so he's working towards a trial. he issued a terse order when all of this kinda came to light about these documents saying, if necessary, i will set a trial date after this hearing, but since then, he's ruled on some motions and he seems to be he moving towards a swift trial here, but he's no nonsense. he is very experienced. i think he's a good choice for this trial. not that he was chosen. it was wheeled out, but it's a good
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get it builds credit, built savings. still dreams >> i'm someone's are 40 and washington. and this is cnn all right, now, we are seeing donald trump arrived here at the courthouse in manhattan. and just moments the door will open inside that courtroom for a hearing on his criminal hush money case. so we are expecting to potentially here from the former president any moment as he x's his exits, his motorcade and is going to walk into to that courtroom. this is a critical morning, not just for that case. and as the judge is expected to decide when and whether that trial could begin next month or whether or not it we'll be delayed again, but it also comes is that 30 day grace period from the attorney general for trump to put up that bond in his civil case has
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now lapsed, meaning she could potentially move to enforce it as soon as today, we have paula reid and kristen holmes back here with me. now, obviously, kristen, this is something that has been so sensitive for the former president because it speaks to this public perception that is always defined as identity, which is his wealth and how much money he has. and he was falsely claiming that their day that he had happened million dollars and that he was expecting to use it for his campaign even though we know he doesn't have that much based on what he has personally testified into the layers of that. and as lawyers and he wasn't expecting to use it for his campaign based on what we had seen. >> but talk about >> how he's been approaching this deadline himself personally. >> i mean, this has been a really big deal for him because this idea that he doesn't have the funds that he's going to show that he doesn't have the funds. is something that to him is deep-seated and humans deleting it's embarrassing to think that he's not this wealthy businessmen. and as you've seen from donald trump for the last eight years, and really for the last several
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decades, one of donald trump's biggest parts of his brand is being a wealthy businessman, being the owner of trump tower, being the owner of trump force, one. now, the plane, he doesn't even do by the way, press conferences on a tarmac unless he has his big plane that's branded so he can show off that he's flying in the big plane. this is all part of his identity. so the data that he's going to come up short on $500 is embarrassing to him and it goes to the point of why he then is lashing out on truth social, in a way that actually impacts them i do have the cash now i almost have the cash. then you see his lawyer stepping and say, no, no, we don't have the cash. remember the argument is that it's impossible to get this kind of money. now, there is a kernel well, truth, when you're talking to these financial experts who say it is very difficult to come up with that kind of cash no matter how rich you are, people just aren't that liquid. the other part of this this is that it's an unprecedented amount. so these underwriters are saying no, not just because it's donald trump, but because they've never had to put up that kind of a bog
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for they were saying they would do $100 million but not 400, million. but again, this all goes to the core of who he is and you're going to see that today. i assume he'll go to the cameras. i assume we'll start talking about at some point that money, that bond, and how he thinks this is unfair. >> is it clear how it affects the appeal itself? because essentially why he had to put up that money is so he could care read the appeal. if he can't put up the money, can he's still appeal this decision? >> yeah. i think you still has the right to appeal, but then that's where the desert attorney excuse me. may the attorney general would move forward right. because she needs that security, so she would move forward to potentially sees either cast cash, assets or buildings and property for days, but he is a field not only the decision itself, but also the amount of bond that he needs to post. we don't expect to get a decision on that today. his lawyers have argued that it shouldn't be this much right to secure this verdict while the appeal goes forward, but he has long said, even before the decision came down from the judge, that he would appeal because he
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believes that there was no victim in the civil fraud case. he argued that it was politically motivated is unprecedented and it's unclear how exactly they would prevail. there's no real factual dispute suit that the appeals court could look at and really glom onto to overturn that. so it's not expected that he will prevail and that appeal, but he certainly has the right to do so >> and his attorneys trump there's always this question of willie pull a rabbit out of his hat at the 11th hour when he did it with e. jean carroll, it was truly the 11th hour when they did find someone to underwrite that bond, it was 100 billion dollars, but that was still even difficult for them. but here today has come and gone. this morning has where we have not heard from his legal team on what they plan to do. and i know there have been options floating around last week going to a wealthy supporter. i mean, his attorney was asked, would they potentially get it from a foreign government or a fortnight? national? >> and she said, this is privileged information and did not give a direct answer on what exemption exam yeah, she then she didn't say no. exactly
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like there was some conversations about who he would actually go to when it came to a wealthy donor because donald trump wants one thing to not be embarrassed. he doesn't want to go sit in front of somebody and begged for money. so how exactly would that and have come about the conversations that were being had at a high level were is somebody going to go on his behalf and say, will you put up this money? how is this going to look for people who know it? worked with him before, say donald trump himself doesn't want to be the 1 to ever ask for the money. it's embarrassing to him. >> these conversations we're >> having happening as to how exactly faculty this would come to be if it came from a wealthy donor. and again, as you said, the morning has come and gone. we have been given no indication that he is pulling a rabbit out of his hat. and what you're starting to see you now is online. you're seeing all these conservatives personalities saying in part what you said, which is, isn't going to help him politically, but also just how unfair this is that no one could have come up with this and even eric trump posting that it was impossible to meet this cash limit or this bond. so that gives you some idea that doesn't seem likely at this point that some kind of magic
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is happening. >> but even if it helps him politically personally and for his own mindset, you can just see how much this bother. so if i mean, looking at his truth social, anytime last week he was posting about it at 02:00 in the morning multiple times. so then an hour period and today, what he was saying is that essentially his concern and that he's making very obvious because he often just says what's on his mind is that he could have to sell his assets for a lower price on a quick basis. yeah. and then use that money to try to put this up. and then of course, he argues a few wins the appeal than you would have sold them for everyone. it's not clear though, of course he would win the appeal here exactly now, his lawyers have i have said that he shouldn't have to sell properties because that is one option on the table. do a fire sale unload some of your assets, and then you're more liquid in cash. his lawyers have insisted that he shouldn't have to do that. that's part of why they've appealed what a regular person have to just do that i know
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you're having are outside the round with regular people. i were talking about buildings were very large amounts of money, which of course how much? which they are worth, what is at the center of the civil fraud trial, right? we're so the bounds of what normal people would have to do. but vote for him, his lawyers argue that didn't have to sell off these buildings. they also argued that that's where a lot of his wealth is tied up. but again, this goes to his identity. this is embarrassing. he has put himself fourth as a billionaire six cecil businessman, for decades. so this strikes at the heart of his identity whom he is always purported to be, not only this case, which was incredibly personal saw several hello, his children testify the decision by the judge, but now the idea that not only he's he's not going to fire, so we don't expect that, but that's some of these assets could be seize incredibly embarrassing if it could potentially though be politically beneficial. >> yeah, or his bank accounts for and sarah and gentlemen, that's really what's at the heart of what we're watching this morning. it's a lot going on understandably, even by
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trump's standards, it's a pretty crazy day. but what we're seeing here is really timing because it's the timing of what's going to happen here with this criminal hush money case. is it going to happen in april? what does the judge decide? but the clock running out on this bond issue is the one is consuming trump much more than that, though both of them are important, both are two issues that his legal team and the former president and self are coming face-to-face with at this moment. >> yeah, the bond issues very, very expensive, and he could feel it very soon. all right. kaelyn and as we said, donald trump has just arrived at the courthouse. we are expecting to hear from him we think sued and we were talking to our lawyers a little while ago. what he says here outside the criminal court could have a bearing on the whole financial situation. he's in now because he had as tweeted before, he said, i have all the money, i have all the money i need. well, if he keeps on saying that an appeals judge
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isn't going to say, you know what, you don't have to pay as much to cover this bond or pay less when they're asking for both things so if he said think as the money and the court see that they may decide well, go ahead and pay it, then. we will see what happens with that. we will see what happened to the aegean, whether she puts into place mechanism mr. try to freeze his bank accounts or sees his property with us now, a cnn senior political commentator and former obama administration official van jones and republican strategist, reno shaw. thank you. both for being here. when you look at the sorry. but it's a circus. when you look at it, this not, normal for when somebody comes to core, when you look at what's happening outside of court and you look at the tirade that donald trump went on over the weekend talking about all these different things going after the judge and saying he has the money what does this tell you about how much he cares about this potential criminal case? the first that could go forward and this case that really has
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to do just with as money, i will start with you, van jones >> well, this is a big deal for him and as because now all of the vices are starting to come together we want to think about this from a big picture point of view. you, donald trump is the bowl and the legal system is a matador. he wants to run over american society back into the white house. he's got to get past and matador and every single open putting and vulnerability in his character is being poked at by a legal system. he's he's he's disrespectful toward women. the defamation case comes in. he's loose with the rules when it comes to documents. okay. you got the florida case coming in you've got his frankly business swindling for lack of a better term effect that's coming into case every single aspect of his personality that makes him unfit for office and emails would be in jail or broke is now coming down on him and he's got to face them all at the same time. and so from his point of view, i'm sure it's a nightmare. it's a
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nightmare of his own making. he's a person that wants to go back in the white house. he is a person that wants to flout all these rules. well, the system has rules and ways to enforce those rules and they're all being fourth now at the same time. and you can see them freaking out on truth, social, all night. this is a big, big day for him. >> you really can see him sort of ranting in real time about this and you can see how much it's under his skin marina, just this morning, he wrote he's being forced to sell his babies and by that we think he doesn't mean eric or don junior. we think he talking about his bills buildings there. rena. but it does show you what he cares about most >> well, i think when when you pull back and look at this entire thing, i'm reminded by the markets are really as quote, the impediment to action that becomes the action. so this is the messaging strategy we have theme trump and his family employ frankly that he's not just being knee capped here by this historic judgment, a supposedly he is
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being crippled to the point where he is being denied what is fairly his. >> and >> so you can't look at elected republicans for some kind of support at this point because they've taken the road of will if you can't beat them, join them so everywhere you're looking on the republican side, there is this cry of donald trump is the victim of a system that is unfair, that has these undefined norms and it's lawfare at its worst this is just something that democrats have to push back on. frankly, the ball is in their court to come out and say, well, if you're a billionaire, then you should have the money and you should with a blink of an eye, this should not be a problem for you should be presenting what you need to do to the court to show that you're an innocent man who falls and rules. and now, if that's going to work on these undecided voters, who knows. but here we fit this moment where frankly, the very thing that stake here is the perceived success that trump has really benefit from all these years. whether do you
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like it or not, our system is one that says economic power is political power. and if trump cannot pay this up, this bond then we see it. it started to be turned on its head after today van jones, in speaking to that politically speaking, when you look at the money and he's always put himself out there as, the man who can make the deal >> politically when he can't pay this money. he's also using it to fund raise. it doesn't seem to be hurting him in the polls. i mean, what say you about this dichotomy? here where democrats might want to take advantage of this situation. but it doesn't seem to be hurting him >> well, we just have two different universes and the democratic party universe, democratic party universe i'm, someone this unfit for office, someone who's broken this mini rules, somebody who's this afoul of the law probably shouldn't be an intern at the white house, let alone be president. and that's the case. democrats of prosecuting. but
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you go through mirror world someone who the system hates this much that she's trying to stop him no matter what he must be good. everyone's against them. he must be for us. and so he's been able to flip let this whole thing to present itself as a martyr, which is why he shows up in court even when you don't have to, which they right now, i've never had a client or anybody who want who wanted to go to court relating to have to go to court? i'm trump wants to be there because he believes if i presented himself as a martyr for his own cause, that actually strengthens him. and so far it looks like it's working. and so you literally have two different movie's happening at the same time with the same characters in one movie. whenever you see donald trump, it's scary movie like a horror show. another movie you see donald trump is heroic movie like he's a superman for the right. so this is what we're dealing with and we will always be strangers to each other and baffled by each other because it's hard for either side to understand why the other is it's feeling the way that we're feeling >> and we just want to be clear. we've been watching this and even seeing it on the screen. there were watching the door literally where donald
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trump is going to walk through. the expectation as he he often does speak, sometimes he does it halfway through, sometimes he comes out of court, but he usually does say something and now you see some movement there. we are waiting to see him come into court and see if he says anything about either of the things, legal things he has facing today, van jones and reno shaw. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your time and as i was just talking about former president donald i'll trump is now at court the question is, will we hear from him? well, he speak just two things. >> a young man >> cowboy or gaze and against is out of staff i've got. back to my, roots come from a long line of capital my grandfather, my great grandfather, my aren't being rode horses when i. see all of us that hill on his ranch i see how far i'll
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national airport this is cnn right now, donald trump is in a new york court for a hearing in the hush money case against him. we could hear from him before that hearing begins back with this now former manhattan prosecutor, jeremy saland, and cnn legal analysts, jennifer rodgers. >> all right >> jennifer, when you >> look at this particular case, what is expected to happen today when you walked into court with his attorneys? what's going to happen? so, judge, my >> sean has said he wants an explanation for why these documents that trump's subpoenaed from sdny weren't turned over when he got discovery from the da's office last year, he asked for a timeline of exactly what happened. so i expect we'll take the prosecutors through their paces, tell me exactly what happened, why didn't you get these documents before? and he'll want to be satisfied about that before he is willing to turn the page and say okay, they have what they have now, let's set a trial date. >> so if a trial date is set and it is, i keep one by the way, on the goings on out the
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courthouse, but your me if a trial latest that for april 15th that means jury selection begins. there correct. >> what's it going to be like getting a jury for this case so they bring in a panel of people and they'll fill that courtroom even potentially to seats the people that normally would watch and sit the benches. fulfill that up then the judge is going to allow the defense attorney and the prosecution to ask their questions and the prosecution is going to try to find the right candidate to sit on that jury who's not going to be the by is going to be able to follow the law, but more so for the defense, because there are few people here in new york who don't have opinion either way, right? because he's a known commodity good or bad? this story has presidency his involvement in the state of new york, in the city of new york is for lack of better term kind of epic. so they really need to make sure they're not going to have someone there who is we'll call it the plan two is too far to the left is not going to give donald a fair trial so i think that's really going to be here. key here is the credibility of those jurors that there'll be fair and honest and listened to the the evidence >> i do want to ask you about witnesses in this case. one of the most important but one of
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the most troubling is michael cohen donald trump's former attorney who had quite a bit of inside knowledge as to how all this happened. he was the one that the money was paid through to get to stormy daniels, according to prosecutors. but he has a real problematic history. tell us why the trump team, first of all, tried to keep them off the stand? and then they're going to go after him. i'm sure. >> yeah. so team's stuff has been trying for months to keep him off the stand saying he's a liar, he pled guilty actually to making false statements to congress so he can't be trusted. he shouldn't be allowed to testify in judge mark. sean has said no, he will be allowed to testify, but you can, of course, bring all of these things in and cross-examination. this is just a monster of a witness in cross-examination, he is central to the allegations here, so prosecutors need to use him, but they have him corroborated by documents and by other witnesses. this is the issue is going to be crossed. there is so much material here because he has lied before, because he's pleaded guilty to a whole variety of offenses. they're going to use all of
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that conventional way. isn't with cross is try to keep it tight. pick maybe three things and go after those three things. but here there's so much material you can see them just taking days and days and days as beating up michael cohen with all of the stuff. >> so if you're the prosecution, you know that jeremy so how do you stop the bleeding with a person who is one of your key witnesses? >> one of the ways you take the wind out of that sales, you have that one witness admit up front and come out front and say, this is what i did. and this is why i did it. and you cannot run away from it. so michael cohen is going to have to say, i lie i was committed in a part of me. i was convicted of of a particular crime. this is why i did what i did if he runs away and they don't address it, it's going to seem like he's hiding and there's there's really not much more to hide because he's been exposed and federal court judges recently acknowledge and recognize that either you've lied before and garan, when he said he was not we didn't tell the truth and federal court when he took a plea or he lied in federal court when he took that plea. so there's really white areas for cross >> donald trump's attorneys are asking for this case to be
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thrown out or delayed the changes that you think will have a date for when this trial starts, come going forward a day. >> i think we well, the only reason that we won't is if the judges satisfied if that prosecutors tell him if he's still thinks after their explanations that something fishy was going on, then he might not set a date, but i think based on what's come out about the content of the documents that were turned over apparently, there's only a small amount of documents that they didn't already have. they're not particularly exciting or exculpatory. so i think the judge will accept prosecutors statements and piggy. >> all right. there is donald trump thank >> he did not have much to say. >> he just said it's a witch hunt but she said over and over and over again on his truth, social, that was probably the shortest amount of time we've seen him speak when he comes into court or when he is in
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court, what did you make? >> i think there could be on the heels of his truth social post about having the money to cover the bond his attorneys real proverbial wringing his neck and holding back some do not say things that are going to hurt you and that may be a product of it >> jennifer rodgers, jeremy saland. thank you both so much. just got a tiny snippet there. we heard from donald trump. it was very short and very pointed to half $1 billion might make you quiet. you. thank you all for being with us. this has been cnn news central, cnn it was one which is jim acosta picks up right now breaking news >> good morning and welcome to our special coverage. i'm jim acosta in washington alongside kaitlan collins in new york. and moments ago, former president donald trump arrived at a lower manhattan courthouse this morning. he spacing double legal trouble. the prospect of a criminal trial, and the possibility that some of his prize commercial properties could be seized by authorities in new york today for the first time in american history we
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could learn when an ex-president goes on criminal trial, you can see him right there. arriving at the courthouse, the judge overseeing is hush money case is expected to set a court date after trump allegedly bribed a porn star to cover up their affair also this morning is carefully cultivated image of an american business tycoon is also at risk. trump's real estate assets including his quote, babies, as he calls them, could be seized if he can't make a nearly half-billion-dollar bond payment in his civil fraud case. but first, our coverage beginning as with the hush money hearing, cnn's kaitlan collins is live in new york outside the courthouse. kaitlan we just saw the former president arrive a few moments ago and it sounds like he had a couple of choice words words we've heard many times with choice words >> yeah, calling it a wood can, calling it a hook, something that we had heard have heard from him for months, if not a going
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