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the story of sin city sunday at ten on cnn it is 09:00 p.m. here in new york, late night in the united kingdom after day that saw catherine princess of wales, make millions of people there and many more millions around the world. a part of her cancer journey, a de, also marked by the murder of dozens of people at a concert hall outside moscow. the gunman, apparently still at large and isis claiming responsibility well, have the latest on that shortly. but first, catherine's announcement and cnn's richard quest >> it has been an incredibly tough couple of months for entire family >> after weeks of speculation, the princess of wales, to spell the rumors and gave us the facts in january, i underwent major domino surgery i'm done and at the time, it was thought that my condition was non-cancerous the surgery was successful. however, test after the operation, pan cancer had been present my medical team, therefore, advice that i should undergo a course of preventive
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chemotherapy. and i'm now in the early stages about treatment >> suddenly so clear why kate's recovery after leaving the london clinic? but taken so long why she avoided the public eye. >> this of course, came as a huge shock and william and i have been doing everything we can to process and manage this privately for the sake of my young family the diagnosis is still visibly role. cnn understands the princess is and has been in good spirits okay ten prince william, of focusing on how to explain the diagnosis to their young children. the three last seen with them, mother in the now infamous and doctored mother's day photo, there many edge, it's fueling the rumors about the princesses health that's all seems irrelevant now with king
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charles also recovering from cancer, the princesses pr nightmare came with a delicate time for the royal family it left william and queen camilla to hold the fort. now was she heels? princess catherine is asking for privacy and time. >> lai walk because always bought me a deep sense of joy and i look forward to being back when i'm able. that's now i must focus on making a full recovery >> britain has seemingly rallied behind. it's princess britain's joel's saying, he was proud, praising kate's courage under british prime minister rishi sunak, wishing her a speedy recovery, promising the love and support of the entire country. >> i am well and getting stronger every day by focusing on the things that will help me heal. in my mind the instars >> now the princess of wales hopes to be left alone to focus on her family and her recovery
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>> richard quest joins us now from london. what's been the reaction? there are two to her diagnosis oh, shock, absolute shock. in a sense, this relationship that people have with the royal family that i have as a british citizen into the royal family. people you don't know personally, but a part of your everyday life. and so for someone like princess catherine, who is the future with her children, the very a pizza me of modern royal life, more accessible, more ordinary of you will and now to find out this news and to wonder what the implications are, particularly anderson at a time when his majesty, the king, is also suffering from cancer and the whole question of uncertainty, meghan and harry, the whole all the rumors and conspiracy theories. well, now we have certainty, at least and what we know is happening with william and catherine. and people have basically saying,
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given the time, the space and the piece but that doing so from a feeling of grit, sympathy, and shock. it rinse your question. >> thank you. joining us now is dr. zika manual, former obama white house health policy advisor, vice provost of global initiatives at the universe of pennsylvania and author of which country has the world's best health care also join a colles former chief content officer at hearst magazines, and holds the title of obiee, which stands for the order the british empire structure manual, from what you heard from the princess today, i'm wondering from a medical standpoint, what you took away from it >> well, first of all, i haven't examined her. she's across the ocean. i haven't talked to her. i haven't seen the pathology of what they found. so like many people, it's mere speculation, but if they it's an abdominal cancer she is not, your classic case of any abdominal cancer >> most of them >> like uterine cancer or colorectal cancer, or pancreatic cancer. really occur in people much older. we have
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seen a rise in things like colon cancer in women, particularly under 50. it's the second leading cause of death but it's going to be an unusual case, no matter what it is. if it was found incidentally based upon previous surgery that was done for other reasons? we can only hope that it was pretty small, that does occur with things like pancreatic cancer, where it's an incidental finding related to a previous cancer, but i have no idea in her particular case. one thing i do know is 42 year-old woman, otherwise healthy with three young kids is a shock and i really understand why she has asked for privacy and why she's been elusive these last few months just turns your whole life upside but i can only imagine joanna, i mean, this announcement was very different obviously than the
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way i king charles announced his, his cancer both have said haven't specified what sort of cancer i'm wondering what you made of how this came out today >> we'll first of all, i mean, is there anything more frightening is apparent than learning that you have cancer, you have two small children. i have small children mean watch their older now, but but it was my absolute fears so very feel very much for kate. i feel four, i think about the kids at age ten or five or eight being told that your parent has cancer on the terror, they must feel about that. >> so >> scary. and also we'll have friends school will now know two. and then of course you've had all the frenzied speculation of what's wrong with her because people realize that something was not right. i do think though that when you are a public figure it's very, it's almost easier to just come out, say what it is, and then retreat rather than to
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have this sort of half knowledge for the public. i mean, if i were to call you and say, are anderson i've got some news. i've got cancer. the first question you would ask me as well, what kind of cancer? so now everybody's spec lacing about what kind of cancer and of course, people are immensely sympathetic to her, but i almost wonder if it's not just easier for kensington powers who manages her and williams press to just say this is what we're dealing with. we're going to take some time out now to recover or have our treatment. and then i think people would leave them alone. but of course this half half managing it unleashes another layer of speculation and put your king charles has also not said what sort of cancer he has. he went in for an enlarged prostate >> and i think that the policy used to dealing with media issues by dealing with the tabloid press and in a way they're fighting last war. and obviously that was an issue around princess diana but it's much harder for them to manage
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social media because everybody is a journalist known as we saw when kate released her photo and then everybody turned into an armchair detective and realized that the fatal had been tampered with and i think also everybody is so excited about kate, it's hard to it's hard to overstate how popular she is because after princess diana and the duchess of york, known as fergie cake really seemed to have a grip on it and she really seemed to enjoy it, was very popular with people. so this is a real set back, i >> think dr. manual, prince catherine mentioned trying to resume public duties to some extent in terms of obviously, because we don't know what kind of cancer there's different forms of chemotherapy >> what >> what kind of, what is chemotherapy look like? what sort of what can, what is the rain? of things that a patient going through chemotherapy would expect >> well, again, anderson,
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you've nailed it on the head. we have no idea what kind of cancer she has. and the chemotherapies will be very different for different types of cancer. and the intensity of those will be very different whether she lived this is her hair or not. how many cycles she has to go through so i think we just can't tell if it's actually relatively small. they got the cancer. this is sort of, four cycles of something just to make sure that they got everything thank she you know, that's, you know, you can count four months but who knows? >> it's >> very hard to tell >> without a real >> diagnosis >> jointed. do you think the that she will get the privacy that she has requested me. it seemed to talk to max foster earlier who said he thinks that the major publications in england we'll in uk will abide by that. >> yeah, i mean, the major publication in england have been pretty good about leaving
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her alone actually until recently. and that's because of course they've got to try and compete with social media, but also they have an easier with the powers they need the palace, the palace needs them. so it's a tricky detente if you but i do think, i do think so. i mean cancer is one of those words that strikes fear into everybody. and yet there's 18 million cancer survivors living in america at the moment, the prognosis from what she said in her in her video sounds good. it's preventative. the chemo that she's having. and i think people well enormously sympathetic to her and to pull william, whose father of course has got cancer. so he's between the two of them and i think people long for for william and kate to take the throne at some 0.2. they are modern, they are younger. she's funny, she's so obviously enjoys being princess of wales. she's very good at it she doesn't complain. she turns up, she joins in people really liked her. and so i think people will be rooting for her.
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>> dr. mineral just finally this is an opportunity for when prints when king charles, his diagnosis led to many people going for prostate exams we've mentioned colorectal cancer and again, we don't know what kate has, but i i learned today that that the screening guidelines for that were lowered to age 45 what kind of screening? what actually is that screening? i'm not even sure if i've done that. what do people do for screening of that? >> so colorectal cancer the screening guidelines have declined because we have more cases. and the typical screening is a colonoscopy where you prepare you clean out your bowel, and then they put a small camera into look into make sure there's no camp i should say one other point. if there is a positive light, we have seen the number of cases among young people, particularly young women, as i
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mentioned, going. but we've seen the amount of mortality going down because we have better test, better surgeries and better in particular for chemotherapies and i think that is the best evidence that we've that we can marshal at this point, again, without knowing the diagnosis, et just in general, the mortality rate from cancer has gone down. so while as noted, it's still strikes fear in people heart and especially for 42 year-old woman with three kids. the prognosis of cancer in general among younger people has been getting better and better. >> that is the commanding appreciate a joint calls as well. thank you very much. today's announcement came just days after a scandal bloom to the hospital where she had her surgery for more of that her is cnn's on a steward >> it's a private hospital with a feel of a luxury hotel with a number of high-profile
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patients, including royals. but this week, the hospital's reputation is on the line up to three hospital staff members are being investigated for trying to illegally access the princess is private medical records. it's unclear whether the attempt was successful. the british government has made clear the breach is serious. it could even be criminal >> uk's data watchdog told cnn its investigating and the london clinic is taking disciplinary steps. the hospital's chief executive was ambiguous on the reports, saying only that in the case of any breach, all appropriate investigatory regulatory, and disciplinary steps will be taken >> that christmas. >> kate was the belle of the ball if this was her last public appearance? a statement came from kensington palace in january her royal highness, the princess of wales, was admitted to hospital yesterday for planned abdominal surgery adding, she is unlikely to return to public duties until after easter in the weeks that
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followed, speculation mounted and it didn't dissipate when the prince and princess of wales posted this photo on social media, which was found to be altered. an apology from the princess followed. >> but >> the speculation didn't end now the world has more information and the message from the princess of wales is clear >> we hope that you'll understand that as a family, we now need some time space and privacy while i complete my treatment, anna stewart's cnn london catherine talked about talking to her children about her diagnosis. that's a difficult conversation to have to say the least for children coming up next, we'll talk to a child psychiatrist about parents and children having those kind difficult conversations or cancer and getting through it as a family. also the latest from russia on the mass shooting outside moscow there's now taken at least 60 lives >> excuse me. when do you mind taking a picture of it?
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both physically and emotionally from william and catherine, but both harry, his brother, and the entire royal families still share the same reticence when it comes to during their private lives and showing emotion, which can only complicate what must be so difficult but not terrifying for any parent telling your young children that mom or dad has a serious illness? i spoke with prince harry for pizza different 60 minutes and he talked about the experience of his father, then prince charles, delivering the worst news imaginable to young prince harry, that his mom, princes diana i had died >> in the book you right he says they tried darlene boy. i'm afraid she didn't make it. these phrases remained in my mind like darts and aboard you say did, did you cry >> not never shot. a single tear that point, i was in shock >> 12 years >> old, sort of 7730 in the morning, early. your father comes in, sits on your bad that's his hand on your knee and tells you there's been an accident i i couldn't believe.
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>> and you write in the book that pod didn't hug me. >> he wasn't >> great at showing emotions under normal circumstances, but his handed fall once more on my knee and he said it's going to be okay. but after that, nothing was okay for a long time? >> no, nothing. nothing was okay? >> he says his memories of the next few days are fragmented, but he does remember this greeting mourners outside kensington palace in london the day before his mother's funeral when you see those videos. now, what do you think? >> i think it's bizarre because i see william may smite him i remember the gills that i felt guilty about the fact that the people that we were meeting was more emotion than we were sharing. maybe more emotion than we even felt. >> they were crying. but you weren't there was a lot of tears and i talk about how wet people's hands where i couldn't understand it at first, their hands are wet.
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house arrest from wiping the rent to his away i do remember. one of the strangest parts to it was taken flowers from people and then placing those flowers with the rest of them as if i was some sort of middle person for their grief and that really stood out for me once my mother's coffin actually went into the ground, that was the first time that i actually cried there was never another time a join his name is dr. judith joseph. she's clinical assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry to nyu langone medical center here in new york. thank you so much for being with us >> first of all, to the >> way so many kids have grown up and prince harry and enteral and william are examples of that. not trying not being able to talk about stuff that has ripple effects for their entire lives, having grown up with that they prince william and catherine clearly seem very focused on trying to communicate this latest
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information to their children the proper way that's a really hard thing to do. >> it's really difficult and you're absolutely right. anderson, if you don't process that trauma and that grief, it shows up later in life. and it's possible that prince william doesn't want his children to go through the same type of trauma he did, containing the information, making sure that they have a controlled way of delivering it to the children. very different than the way that he had his news delivered to him when he was younger. >> catherine talked about wanting to basically not reveal us until the kids were out of school. that seems to make a lot of sense because not just that, there'll be around them so they can spend time to concentrated time together. but also said other kids aren't saying step two children have the wireless imaginations. and if you don't anticipate that, you can't control the information. there are kids that could talk about their experiences with cancer. they can say dreadful things. so i think it's appropriate also, you have to remember during breaks, your with your parents all the time you're in a safe environment, you have access to
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them. so if you act out if you regress, you know that you have someone there to nurture you. whereas when you're in school, anything could happen, you can act out, then that's further shame, further trauma for the child. so it's a safe environment, it's controlled when they have the news delivered during break. >> how honest should a parent be with the child about my dad died when i was ten years old. i knew he was in the hospital with heart disease and heart attack, but i no idea how serious was in kids weren't allowed to visit the hospitals back then? >> i'm sorry for your loss and you know, you know, that grief is something that's very complicated and kate, she's someone who champions mental health and children. so i'm sure she was very thoughtful in her process. it's important to be very clear with children use language that's plain, not complicated because it's scary if it's too complex be honest when children know that you're lying, when you're holding things back, kids know your life. they know they imagined the worse, and you want to be honest with them because if they imagine that you're holding something back, they're going to think that it's dreadful news that something is
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really bad. that's going to happen. >> you don't want i mean, there's honesty and then there's like brutal honesty. you don't want to be scary on us that's true. >> you want to make sure that you give the information in small amounts of content. so imagine this is a family that had a loss of a great grandfather, a loss of a great grandmother, then you have the news of your grandpa having cancer and now possibly your mother having a severe illness? that's a lot of information for these small children. so it's smarter or to spread out that bad news and to use simple language, you don't want to sugarcoat it because they can tell when you're not telling the truth >> also, delivering information to they've are kids who are 108.5 delivering information to a 10-year-old is obviously different to a five-year-old >> very different. and you, kate is someone who champions mental health and children. so she probably probably had some advisors around this, but it's true you can't give the same information to someone who's younger, you have to be very careful with the language that you use, dependent on their developmental stage. and also we need to deliver the news you want to make sure that you're not panic, you're not
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catastrophizing because children marry you. if you panic, they're going to panic >> is it one conversation or is it multiple conversations over time? >> that's a really good question. it's multiple conversations over time. give it to them in small doses, make sure they're in a safe space. you don't want to be in a distracting environment and environment well, you don't have control, have transitional objects like a teddy bear at blinky, things that they can hold on to make sure that you can anticipate how they're gonna react. have your responses planned, make sure that all caregivers have the same canned response. they're going to ask hard things are going to ask things like, are you going to die you know, are we gonna be able to visit you? have a canned response, but what is a five-year-old know about death compared to an eight-year-old or prized children have access to information in this day and age. they watch cartoons and disney movies, people die. so they have an understanding. you don't want to use clear language. so things like passed away, that's not very clear,
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that's abstract. you want to be concrete. the person died or things like sickness instead of under the weather be very clear in your language with them. they know more than you think they did yesterday and dr. judith joseph. thank you so much. thank you for having me shade it in being here coming up next the latest on the terror attack that is left at least 60 people dead, 100 wounded near moscow. that and the warning signs his weeks before the attack by the united states and others >> it's a new day. >> one. we're our shared values propel us towards a more secure future. through august of partnership built upon cutting-edge american australian, and british technologies will develop state-of-the-art next generation slippery in build something stronger together. security, dequeued peace and prosperity for america and our allies we are going forward for word together
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see is disturbing for more disturbing videos, we're not going to show those to you. that's just some of what unfolded inside the concert hall. as the assailants open fire, isis has claimed responsibility for the attack joni is now with the latest is seen as fred pleitgen. so walk us through what we now know about what happened inside that constant whole fred >> either amazon, we know that this happened around 06:00 p.m. moscow time that these assailants apparently already took out their guns as they were in the parking lot to the crocus city the hall which is in the town of cross know gore's, which is actually a suburb of moscow. i've been there on many occasions in the past. it's a gigantic complex. they then went in and from what we hear from eyewitness this is an from the authorities now that you're immediately opened fire on pretty much everyone that they saw at point blank and that's where a lot of those videos that we were just showing obviously originated from. and you can just see the panic there among the people
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who were inside that venue. some of them trying to get away, others trying to hide. there were some scenes of people breaking the glass the windows, the window facade of that place to try and get out at some point, apparently the assailants also set fire to the building. we saw that large plume of smoke and flames coming out the russian authorities having to bring in chopper's to try and get that blaze under control. so at this point, while we're speaking about at least 60 people who have been killed and more than 140 been wounded. the russian authorities do believe that that number could rise as they are still try to get to terms with what happened. there. >> are the suspect still at large >> that's one of the other big things out there. is that the russian so far have not said that they were able to either apprehend or neutralized as they usually say, the suspects. in fact, the russians are saying they do believe that the suspects are still at large and that they managed to get away. they believe were tried to get away and small white renaud
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car. now of course we know that isis has claimed responsibility for the attack, the russians have actually not confirmed that. they also believe that that is the case. we know that the us says that they have they believe that they have details that also seems to confirm that. but at this point in time, the russians are treating this as an ongoing situation. and with the suspect still at large, anderson i mean, it's remarkable the us embassy put out a warning to people about this. vladimir putin has he said anything yet about this publicly? >> well vladimir, putin as far as the warning was concerned that the us embassy put out on march 7, he said that he believed that that was us propaganda, us scare, malingering us, blackmail against the russian federation. but it's interesting that tonight we have not seen vladimir putin publicly saying anything yet. of course vladimir putin is someone who people are saying brought security back to the russian federation. someone who stands for law and order and has in the past was so far at least publicly, he's been silent the
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only things that we have heard is from vladimir putin's spokesman, who came out and said that the president is being updated on everything that's going on. allegedly, he also spoke to the governor of the moscow region. so the area outside of moscow, and there's other russian officials who say that he sent his well-wishes or his best wishes to the people who have been wounded. but so far publicly, we have not heard from vladimir putin yet. anderson or fred pleitgen. thank you very much for more on the warning. the warning that we talked about is seen in pentagon correspondent oren liebermann isis claimed responsibility for the attack. have us intelligence officials responded to that claim >> they haven't, or at least we haven't heard a direct corroboration of that meeting. we have not heard us officials tell us. yes, we have intelligence that absolutely says it was isosurface that responsible for this attack. but crucially, us officials say they have no reason to doubt the claim from ices they were responsible for the attack and that in and of itself isn't important piece of information as the us tries to figure out what happened here, just as
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russia tries to figure out what happened here with their own criminal investigation, the us, of course, watching this from a far and looking at the pieces formation, they do have, but at least at this point, the us has no reason to doubt the claim from ices that they indeed did carry out this attack. anderson >> and cnn has learned that the us intelligence community actually warned russia about a potential attack inside the country. tree that's sounds extraordinary. >> it is absolutely so it's also clear indication that the us has been watching this space according to two us sources familiar with the intelligence the us as they were picking up a pretty steady stream of information since back in november that isis, specifically isis k or isis croissant, which is much more active in afghanistan, was trying to carry out attacks in russia, trying to create a mass casualty incident some of that intelligence was fairly specific according to one source familiar with that intelligence to the point where the us under the duty to warn, in fact, warn their russian
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counterparts, or at least parts of the russian government, that there was a potential for ice skater treading carry out an attack. now, we haven't been able to connect those dots definitively and to say it was in fact that stream of intelligence that led to this attack but it paints a picture of first, the us watching this space and sets up at least a credible possibility of it was, in fact, is behind this attack here as we wait for more information from the us. and of course, from russia itself in regards to the latest information on this attack, or americans inside russia, hearing more from the state department's in it so first there is, of course, the general warning from the us embassy in moscow for american citizens to be where. but we also know that earlier this month, about two weeks ago, on march 7th, us put out its own warning of the possibility of an attack morning american citizens to stay away from large gatherings. in fact, look at this statement from that embassy outreach in earlier march, the embassy is monitoring reports that stream
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is set imminent plans to target large gatherings and moscow to include concerts and us citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings. over the next 48 hours, the caveat there, of course, is that we don't know for certain that this bit of intelligence is the attack that we're looking at now. but you also can't ignore the similarities here. here large concerts, the us embassy warned about, and that's of course, what was attacked here. the differences that was a 48 hour warning that in an expired on march 9th. here, this is two weeks later but still a similarities between the warning and what we're seeing play out. they are certainly great indeed, oren liebermann. thank you. i'm joined now by two senior national security analyst, steve hall and peter bergen. steve's also former cia chief of rush operations so steve, i mean, beyond us intelligence, private warnings to russian officials, the us embassy publicly warning americans few weeks ago that we just saw as extremist of the imminent plans to target large gatherings in moscow that putin basically called provocative
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and outright blackmail it's pretty remarkable, is it not >> yeah, he basically poo-pooed it. that's one of the really remarkable things and i can tell you one of the things that vladimir putin is most concerned with tonight it doesn't have anything to do with the dead, doesn't have anything to do with russian families grieving anything. he has to do with the following. there's a social contract between the russian people and putin and it goes like this. russians give up some freedoms in order to get the stability and security of a police state. well, the russians had been watching as the putin administration has been basically please systematically getting rid of all political opposition hundreds of, hundreds of forces, russian forces, security forces doing that. and yet they can't be kept safe when they tried to go to a concert in moscow. if i were a rush and i think putin is thinking this, i would be saying, what is the fsb? what are the security service is doing? why are they focusing on these? people in prisons and not keeping the general population safe? that's got to be a concern for vladimir putin this evening. >> peter isis k is claim
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responsibility for this attack. i know early on you were skeptical and whether they are the ones truly responsible. do you still feel that way? and if it is, then what does that tell you about their capabilities? >> well, it was suggested that back i mean, the reason i was a little skeptical initially of this claim we still don't have direct evidence that it's true is isis has taken tremendous beating as you know, anderson over the years. i mean, they lost their geographical caliphate and syria and iraq. there used to be able to train people for attacks in paris in 2015 that killed 130 people, including americans attending a concert once they lost their geographical caliphate, they lost their ability to train people. and it's sort of devolved into local affiliates like isis k, and afghanistan and some in africa. but they send a team to seem to have refocus on local concerns. now where that change was in january, where ice is k attacked a memorial service for an iranian general, qasem soleimani, killing almost 100
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people. >> that >> showed that their ability to reach out outside of afghanistan. now, reaching out into russia that's close. it's further away than iran is from afghanistan. serwer show unfortunately, a resurgence of their, of their abilities, but also one other thing that's very interesting on march 7, russian state television reported that the russian intelligence agency, fsb, full, foiled a plan to commit a terrorist act against a synagogue, in moscow. that's according to russian state television so the fact that the russians are now sort of, sort of backtracking and saying, well all the things that saying it's of interesting and that's right, that's exactly the same day that the us embassy warned about extremists having plans to attack large gatherings in moscow. so it's not just the americans who knew that something was going on in moscow. the russians also did steve, what do you make of this isis-claimed responsibility? and if it was then what does that tell you? not only about them, but about russia's inability to prevent it
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>> yeah, that latter thing is a really serious issue. i mean, again, this is the amount of resources that vladimir putin and the kremlin put into their security services to do a number of different things. not only monitor dissidence, but also hopefully, first and foremost, try to protect its own population against these types of the tax now, this is not the first attack that's happened over the years. there have been lots of a number of different islamic extremist groups that have tried to attack in moscow's somewhat success in some with less success. but one thing is, one thing seems to me be clear although we can't make a point to point connection between the seven march embassy warning and what happened today. it's clear that american intelligence had information that there was going to be an attack. >> the >> march 7 thing that came out of the embassy was a public it's a anybody can access that you meet anybody inside of russia if they can have access on the internet, certainly the terrorists could have had that if they had planned and attacking that 48 hour period after seven march, they could have seen the embassy report and said, well, we need to regroup because the fsb is
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going to be ready for us it's still early. we don't know all the details, but what is clear is that the us had good information on this and passed it to the russian government and putin simply said, it's not that critical. >> peter, when you look at, you look at these images, now, all those blue flashing lights, it looks like an enormous police response if these perpetrators were able to get away, that's really stunning. i mean, the idea that you can attack a huge concert venue, not be stopped. i don't know. we don't know if there was an exchange of gunfire with anybody, but we have no indication that there was police officers on scene who were rushing these people as would likely happen in the united states unless of course, you were police officer in uvalde, texas yeah >> i mean, that's one of the reasons that i initially when i saw this as a little skeptical because typically if you're an isis fighter, you don't care about getting killed at the scene of the crime. you don't you're not looking for a
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getaway, you're looking to marty yourself? so in this case, it looks like the people did get away according to the russians that isn't typical for an isis type attack. so however, i mean the fact that all it's not just the americans who had intelligence in the system about isis presence in moscow. it turns out that the russians did too otherwise, why would russian state television report on march 7th about a plan to attack a moscow synagogue by ices so i don't know. i mean, it it isn't absolutely typical. their ammo, but certainly your isis has a track concert venues in the past in, paris you recall in 2015, they killed 130 people. most, many of them were attending a concert and obviously, this work could well be it could be just what it as this group says. i'm still looking for evidence and hopefully you will identify who these people are relatively quickly. are they
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tajiks, are they chechens if they're part of i did they train in afghanistan? and that's a very big question here. obviously, that would be very embarrassing for the biden administration if it turned out that isis k is regrouped to the extent but they can reach out to other countries carry out major attacks at a time when they're responsible for the withdrawal of us troops from afghanistan >> peter bergen, steve hall. thank you. next breaking news from capitol hill. the growing likelihood of government shutdown in the middle of the funding fight. another republican house speaker, john, possibly in jeopardy, is a member of his own divided party, files a motion to oust let's tim that details on that ahead >> this is not just another e glass because it evolves with you and adapt. it is the first eclat made just for you this is not just design because you're ii class. it adapt to recognize just understand you that power
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shutdown? >> yeah. anderson, at this very moment, it does look like congress is on track to stumble into a government shutdown. know it would be a partial government shutdown because it's government agencies have already be funded, been funded, and it also would only be temporary or because of they can't come to an agreement on voting tonight on the package. they would just vote on sunday, so it would be a minimal impact of a shutdown, but it is a shutdown. none the less. and that is because this >> has been such a >> tortured process to get here. remember, they were supposed to fund the government back in october 1 of last year. this for the fiscal year that they are currently in, and instead they kicked the can down the road past stop gap bill after stopgap, bill waited until the last minute to pass this massive bill. and that's where we find ourselves tonight at issue is some republicans are seeking votes on various amendments, some related to border and immigration. some democrats are pushing back on that. >> so there's still scrambling to >> try to find an agreement before that midnight deadline. but at this point, looking increasingly unlikely, that is going to happen, anderson. >> and so congresswoman marjorie taylor greene filed a
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motion to vacate speaker johnson over all of this is his job actually in jeopardy? >> well, it certainly is on thin ice. anger had been brewing all week over this bipartisan deal that johnson cut with democrats and the white house last night, marjorie taylor greene said she was done with the speaker and the smell morning. she did file that motion to vacate the speakers here, but she did not take a critical step to force a floor vote on that resolution. so it's a slightly different scenario than when matt gaetz made his move to it's former speaker kevin mccarthy, but let's take a little bit of a listen to what marjorie taylor taylor greene had to say >> i filed the motion to vacate today, but it's more of a warning and a pink slip. i respect our conference. >> i've paid >> all my dues to my conference. i a member in good standing and i do not wish to inflict pain on our conference and to throw it throw the house and chaos >> so green is essentially preserving this as a threat and keeping it in her back pocket at least for now for johnson's part, he says he's not worried
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about losing his job, but this is something he is going to have to contend with. he can't just ignore this as a threat especially given the razor thin margin in the house and especially given what happened to his predecessor, kevin mccarthy and how does land with the rest of the republican caucus? >> well, it looks like there's not a very big parade or any parade falling behind marjorie taylor greene, at least at this moment, even though she doesn't so that she had some colleagues who are behind her, but many republicans that i talked to said, this is crazy, this is stupid. they are still reeling from that chaotic speaker drama back in october cobra and meanwhile, some democrats are signaling that they'd be willing to step in and save mike johnson if he puts a ukraine funding package on the floor. so it does not appear like there's an appetite in either party to plunge the house chaos once again. but it's an issue that everyone is going to have to keep an eye on, especially mike johnson as he deals with potentially divisive issue of ukraine funding in the coming weeks, anderson, who didn't want to thanks very much coming up next, we returned to the surprise announcement today for the princess of wales and her cancer diagnosis and look the
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>> but i think that as soon as the winter is over, she will be keen to get back on her feet, back out there meeting people. it's just whether or not the doctors are going to agree with it >> like so much around the royals secrecy about hell does a deep-seated tradition. the castle was cagey about prints, phillips condition the year he died, rumors of eating disorders swirled around princess diana long before she confirm them. >> i have it i'm very good authority that the quest for perfection, our society demands, can leave the individual gasping for breath. >> meghan markle says, her mental health was so taxed by life in the palace. she considered suicide is that she talked to oprah about it only on her way out, i went to the institution and i said that i needed to go somewhere to get help and i was told that i couldn't that it wouldn't be good for the institution. >> i wish you the best of how father wish. we wish >> me secrecy around much older
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cases such as the growing madness of king george in the 1700s, was so strict, medical experts and movie makers still speculate about the cause. >> but even >> when the royals had lost almost all their practical power maladies of the monarchs remained largely private, such as king george the sixth, battles with stuttering and lung cancer i didn't have a happy we didn't pop and nor do we ever talk about our private lives. you'll appreciate the need for absolute discretion. >> so the revelations that king charles, princess, kate, and sarah ferguson are all dealing with cancer are unusual even if the details remain scarce. the sense of secrecy can endure even after the subject has gone when queen elizabeth passed away, a year-and-a-half ago at the age of 96. the death certificate listed the cause as merely all day age >> anderson, tom form. and thanks. the news continues right here on cnn