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they're, you know, they're stopping at mcdonald's between jobs and grabbing something quick and they don't have time to e perhaps the people who are time restricted have higher blood pressure or higher cholesterol or substantial cardiac histories or family histories >> what it seems >> possible to just for all these confounders, part of the argument that was being made about restrictive eating is that people lose muscle mass and that as you age losing muscle mass can can cause cardiac issues. is that there's losing muscle mass that's just that's a bad thing. >> yeah. >> that's a potential explanation for why it might have a negative effect i think the take-home message from this file is what we've learned early on from this strategy is that if you, if you fast in any of these strategies, you'll lose some weight. on average between right three and if you
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lose weight, you'll lower your blood pressure. you'll lower your cholesterol and you'll lower your weight. and we know from decades of research that those effects resulting good outcomes. the bottom line is this this kind of more needs to be needs to be repeated, but in a prospective randomized trial, dr. jonathan ryan or thanks, the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, the breaking news, trump zeroing in on kavanaugh using the words of the justice he appointed to try to get his >> january 6 case thrown out arguing that if he is not granted immunity, it is the quote, end of the presidency as we know it. >> plus the >> ceo of a top luxury real estate firm says tonight the trump can't sell his property he's fast enough to pay half $1 by monday. she's my guest tonight and ban he wants serve as the ambassador to russia under trump. and tonight rush she says he is no longer welcome their ambassador john sullivan is with me tonight.
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let's go out, find >> good evening. i'm erin burnett out front so evening the breaking news trump appealing to a man he placed on the supreme court in an effort to end the cases against him and who is that? well, that person is justice brett kavanaugh. and in this 67 page filing of filed by trump's team today, the former president's legal team digging deep into brett kavanaugh was passed to make their case as to why trump should not be charged with trying to overturn the 2020 election. and as they go through this, they point to several statements made by kavanaugh, including this one and they quote, a president who was concerned about an ongoing criminal investigation is almost inevitably going to do a worse job as president trump's team also going way back in time, going to a georgia law article that kavanaugh wrote in which he says and quoting again, prosecution or non-prosecution of a president is in short, inevitably, an unavoidably a political act will a political act that of course echoes what trump has been saying since the start of
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the investigation is that all of this these court cases are political and election interference and their own right. >> and >> trump's filing today is his last let's ditch attempt to do two things. one of course is to delay the special counsel's election case altogether. and two is actually to take a step back and actually avoid being charged entirely for trying to overturn the 2020 election. and on that point, trump's legal team says, quote, if immunity is not recognized, every future president will be forced to grapple with the prospect of possibly being criminally prosecuted after leaving office every time he or she makes a politically controversial decision that would be the end of the presidency as we know it. now, that argument was unanimously, of course rejected by a federal appeals court. so just to be very clear here, what you're looking at in these 67 pages is trump's last chance to make that case. and end these cases, katelyn polantz is out front live in washington to begin our coverage tonight. and caitlin, what else stands out to you in this new filing by team trump wire and we've had a lot of court filings over the course
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of this investigation about presidential immunity. but the language here is really aimed at scaring justices on the supreme court who want to protect the presidency and executive power. executive authority. some of the language trump uses. he talks about post trauma that presidents might experience if they could be prosecuted you did for committing crimes while they are in office. that he also talks about the de facto blackmail and extortion that they could face while in office. he also writes, it could be the end of the presidency as we know it. that is a very stark phrasing of this threat that trump's team perceives if there isn't some sort of immunity around the presidency. the other thing that stood out to me is that in one of these arguments over this 60 some page brief filing to the supreme court trump's team says motive shouldn't matter. and it's unfair to
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trump if there's immunity for the presidency, but it falls away in a case like this, where for trump or others, we could be accused of trying to hold onto power because they were trying to break the law to stay in power. here's the direct quote, the court should reject the dc circuit's alternative approach of denying a president criminal immunity when his conduct is allegedly motivated by the desire to remain in power lawfully, this approach risks creating the appearance of a gerrymandered ruling tailored to deprive only president trump of immunity while leaving all other presidents on touch. so they're saying that even if a president is breaking the law to keep hold of that office, that is not a reason why there should not be a protection around on the presidency and thus trump should be protected here as well. >> all right, caitlin, thank you very much. so i want to go straight to our legal expert, ryan goodman, because what caitlin just said is pretty extraordinary. >> i mean, okay. they're saying because it's tail just to
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apply to him. well, there's a reason that it applies only to him because he's the only one who actually tried to overturn an election so it's just this continual circular reasoning as you go through the 67 pages, do you find anything more compelling in these arguments then you've heard from them before >> so the first half of the brief, there's nothing really compelling and i don't think any of the justices, maybe one, but i don't think any of them will signed on to this idea that all presidents are absolutely immune for any conduct in-office that's just a bridge too far. >> right. this killing people. i mean, there are things which by the way, they've already said that if he had ordered someone to be killed, but that wouldn't count. but teams, trump has said that, but to trump has said that's right. but the second half is a smart legal argument which is to say to the court, look when you decide that there's not absolute immunity, then vista test in which you define what the boundaries are then send this whole thing back down to the trial court to apply your new test, which is a delay strategy. so the idea there being that then they hold hearings at the trial court and then the trump side can appeal
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any adverse hearings all the way back up to the supreme court. that's the move that's being made there, but it's a smart argument. it's the argument i think they should be making as smart lord, this is the way to which is you need to put rules and you need to put a procedure in a test. yes. understandable. okay so do >> you think it's has a chance of success and in that context, what do you make of the fact that they repeatedly appeal to justice kavanaugh, who of course was appointed by trump, but said all these things and wrote all these things which team at least taken out of context to support the argument that they're making >> it's a good move to try to quote the justices back at themselves also then one of the paragraphs they have both kevin and scalia quota together. so generally speaking, that can work. i imagine that jack smith might do the same thing if he thinks there's something in kevin i his writings the problem for trump is that it's not really what kevin was saying. kevin was talking about why an incumbent president should not be distracted by ongoing criminal prosecutions, investigations. that's the cabinet argument. kevin. i don't think wants to be
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associated with this absolute immunity argument, which they're making. so it actually might turn him off right? when and just to be clear, incumbent and trump is not incumbent i mean, just absolutely reject the argument that apples-to-apples. >> right. those folks who think that the incumbent president is immune make the argument that he's immune or she immune until they leave office and that's the the situation you're in right now. >> all right. >> all right. ryan, thank you very much. and as we are tracking this breaking news. we've got more breaking developments right now, which is the donald trump is now slamming the judge who ruled against him in his company. and the trump org fraud case because literally we are in a time click time, ticking down situation. trump running out of time to come up with $464 million. that is what is required to come up with to post bond by law by monday on the deadline >> are you looking forward to this campaign, this election had been planning. how do you campaign and how are you doing it? >> but all these legal cases mounting up, they valued mar-a-lago 18 million because
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the courts are rigged. what's going to wreck they did they evaluated it, had an appraisal of 1.5 billion, 1 billion, 2 billion. who knows what it's worth is because that was good for their narrative. so they valued at 18 millionaires because it's a crooked legal system, very crooked. that's why people hello, leaving new york companies are fleeing new york. because if even this decision as our own daniel dale has pointed out what judge and grand said was that a palm beach county tax assessment from the years the decade of 2011 to 2021, appraise the market value of mar-a-lago between 1,828 now this all comes as trump's lawyers admitted so far that he does not have the 464 million which he is required to post by law by monday. what that means is that if he is treated like every other defendant in a posting bonds situation you just have to do it. you have to sell assets. you've to do whatever you have to do to make that bond. and for trump, that would mean but he may have i've to sell some of his most prized
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properties. these are mega ticket items or risk watching the state of new york sees them as the state of new york has said it will front now someone who knows all of this inside out the real estate industry, inside out best friedman, she is the ceo, brown harris stevens, which is a luxury real estate company that includes properties in new york, new jersey in florida, all until locations we're talking about ambassadors, also a lawyer. so best if just taking a look at where we are today is tuesday. >> it's only tuesday. okay. but by monday, he has to post this bond. >> if he hasn't started the process of selling any of his properties. and by the way, i don't even mean started. i mean, if you aren't really, really far or down the path, these are big, big buildings. does he have time to sell any of them by monday? i mean, i >> think it's a little we don't have enough time. i mean, by monday, that's really i think you need at least 30 days to get any of these properties sold. but the property that you alluded to, mar-a-lago potentially that could be something that could be we sold quickly. i think the
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valuation is something in the hundreds of millions and i think there could be a buyer for something like that, and that would be literally if you're talking about doing that between now and monday, that's picking up the phone, calling someone and then literally reading check. yeah. i mean, there could be plenty of international people who want to buy that property. i mean, there's properties that are priced at 150.200 hundred million that are nearby, that and palm beach is like the nevada nvidia excuse me, of real estate. it's just shot up like a rocket and people do want to live there. they've moved there. so i think that would be the best-case scenario as to proper if he's trying to sell quickly, i would encourage that. so all right. now that's 240 million estimated. i mean, who knows? so we use a desperate seller in this case. someone picks up the phone and makes that call this week. so i'll know it'd be that's still path of what it would be. so when you look at other properties, i mean you know you've got his penthouse bloomberg values that at 40 million. i mean, that doesn't get you there either. but is that something you could even sell quickly? >> i mean, the good news about that property is the location is incredible. it's a
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condominium which means it's could sell quickly. you still have to get through a board process, a package and application but it's a building that was built in the early '80s. so i don't know if it's been renovated and remember not everybody wants that affiliation with that building with the name. it does have a stigma for some. and so that can be a bit of a challenge. and so the price doesn't determine the market. the market determines the price. and so it will pan on if there's somebody who really wants to buy something like that and do a renovation and make it their own and is comfortable living in a building that has his name and for that's not everybody's tastes. so i think it could be a bit of a challenge. >> so how do you, how do you really even turn? >> something like this, this, this quickly i mean, what is the process to even do this? and when you talk about it, someone who they're gonna wanna get a deal, right? >> this is the definition of a desperate seller in this particular instance, you've got five days yeah, i mean, i think he needs to look at all of his
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assets and real estate. he has a lot of them great locations and he needs to figure out what those values are and get them on the market and get people looking at them. i'm sure there's interests. i mean, look, jeffrey epstein's mansion sold in new york city took some time. they had a cut the price, but there was somebody that was willing to buy that same way bernie made off. we were able to sell his co-ops so people will buy the real estate it just will take time, but the sooner the better and the sooner they evaluate what he has and get get get it out there. it will be better for him. >> all right. best. thank you very much. i mean, just an incredible situation, even believe what we've been talking about such a thing. but this is the reality. all right. thank you. >> next >> well, in the slammer for trump former trump aid peter navarro is inside this miami prison on your screen tonight. that is where he is the former president resides company portably not far away right now in mar-a-lago michael cohen, who also served time because of his ties to trump has outfront next, plus breaking news polls are about to close in ohio this is absolutely crucial. this is the fight for control of the
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>> comb download the free app. now king >> charles, tomorrow it on cnn tonight in the slammer for trump, peter navarro, trump's former white house aide is now sitting inside this miami prison. >> it's >> one of the oldest prison camps in the united states. and it happens to be less than 100 miles from where trump is living right now. >> at mar-a-lago >> navarro joins the growing list of trump associates who have served time. michael cohen who will join me in a moment, sentenced to three years behind bars. former trump adviser steve bannon sends to four months in prison. that sentence on hold as his pending an appeal former trump campaign chairman paul manafort former campaign adviser george pop it up. willis trump associate roger stone, the deputy chairman of trump's campaign, rick gates, all were sentenced to time behind bars. former trump org cfo allen weisselberg, serve time at riker's and could be going back i mean, when you think about it and you listed out
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like that, it's pretty incredible silence or fatty is out front with more >> i'll guess. >> that's what i'm >> feeling right now. former >> trump adviser peter navarro defiant as he reports to federal prison in miami today, every person who has taken me on this road to that prison is a brilliant democrat and at trump pater navarro is facing a four-month sentence for refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena from the committee that investigated the january 6 attacks on the us capitol but it's hard as it will be on me. and it's hard as we'll be on anybody who is in there is harder on their families. and this is hou >> those democrats have hurt navarro at age 74, will be serving his time i'm in an air-conditioned dormitory within the prison reserve for elderly inmates who will have access to tvs. the ability to email and make phone calls?
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>> yes, the chinese >> protectionism at one time, a respected economist, a voice on china and harvard trained professor navarro regularly appeared on mainstream me media. >> feeder is brash and >> decades ago tried unsuccessfully to run for local office as an independent and democrat, attracting the endorsement of hillary clinton. and landing a prime speaking spot at the 1996 democratic national convention together with president clinton we will protect medicare and social security. and a woman's right to choose. >> but some who have known him since back then say his shaky ideologies can use a great chameleon. he, he clearly was able to adapt to who they are and what they're about were trumped easily by the spot light. >> we have the great pete navarro. >> navarro morphing into a maga loyalists. >> this president has been the toughest president on china of any american president. and trump devote t, if you look
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statistically at what happened clearly the president won this election. it was leading on election day, promoting some the former president's most controversial and baseless claims. and on, on things like, for example, the hydroxychloroquine. he has a strong point of view. there's as many doctors on the other side because first of all, just placing a level urine economists not a scientist. >> now, like trump. >> so the little story here. navarro is going to present today, attempting to turn his feet into a badge of honor. >> men and women bob america, throughout our history, have shed blood, lost their lives for the >> defense of this chondrite, it's a much smaller sacrifice to be willing to go to prison >> and this marks the first trump official to go to prison for contempt charges of
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congress. do you ban and of course has also been convicted of contempt charges. for defying those subpoenas from the january 6 committee. but of course, he has remained out of jail. aaron so far because he is ruling and trying to appeal this ruling >> all right. so i'm lynn, thank you very much. and out front now, former trump attorney who also went to prison, michael cohen, the author of revenge, shall donald trump weaponized us department of justice against his critics, also the host of the may a culpa and political be down podcasts. so michael, you hear navarro, he's saying he's defending the country by going to prison. standing by you know, i'm i'm standing by trump. i'm going to prison for him. >> you were once >> just to to some extent in his shoes, right? for for things that you did well with trump, you serve time. and we've got images of going to prison in 2019 a day. i'm sure you will never forget because of your loyalty to trump. there you are in the car so as you see, navarro go to prison what do you see
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>> it makes me recall an old adage troubled people cause trouble donald, is that troubled person? and he's causing trouble. peter navarro has no idea just how bad prison actually is. and i'm speaking from experience, not once but twice when i was unconstitutionally remanded. the second time back it's terrible, but there's more implications that people aren't even aware of. all your bank accounts end up getting closed. you can't get credit cards, you can even open up a bank account at at any at any bank because you name is on the list, your whole life changes. and why is it changing because he's doing something for donald trump, a guy who's 100 miles away from him enjoying a mar-a-lago burger and a bunch of ice scream at at his at his gilded club. i don't know what he's thinking so so let's talk about where it so you served about a year in prison
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and then you continue to serve your term during covid, you are. okay. >> but navarro, he sentenced to four months. does that make what are those first four months like? i mean, how does he manage that? and also, we had shown images, but he is in fca miami which is a prison, you know, a lot about why know something about i was in fca otis bill very different than fc on miami. i knew a few people that actually came from fca miami, two oldest film it is not it's not a good place, no different than allen weisselberg who spent 100 days at rikers island. rikers. >> it is >> it is not a cake walk. any of these fcas or not. first of all, you come in to the facility and you have nothing it's a weird experience, especially somebody who is of his age. you don't even own a toothbrush. you don't have a hair brush, you don't have soap, you don't have shampoo, or you have is what they give to you, which is a pillow or a blanket, they give to you a
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pair of one pair of socks it's a pair of underwear, a pair of pants that generally don't fit. they do that on purpose and a t-shirt and irregular shirt. that's what that's what you own so coming from the world that peter navarro came from, spending time at the gilded casa of donald, right? >> moral lotto, harvard professor, known economist, i mean, i knew peter navarro all the way back when i worked at nbc, he was a guy who came on regularly. he was this is not new worry, it's this is not an experienced that he that he wanted to have in his memory. >> you said it takes your soul. >> it does prison takes your soul >> the time that you're away from your family your friends, your life you never get it back you never get it back on top of that, i don't know what they're rules are right now in terms of covid, do they hold them the first five days, ten
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days, 14 days in solitary? that's another issue in and of itself. remember, i did 51 one days of solitary confinement >> he gave a press conference saying navarro did. okay. talking about it, obviously, before he walks on the inside of fca miami and i wanted to play one part of it for you. sure are you nervous >> i am not nervous. i talking about i'm going to claim executive privilege on the donald trump precisions. i've had the greatest amount of support from donald trump and his team >> what do you say that greatest amount of support from donald trump and his team as he's heading to prison. of course, trump is not. and >> look where you're going and trust me, it's easy to be a television tough-guy when you're on the outside, when you're on the inside, there were rules whether you're in a satellite camp, a low like i was in or you're in a maximum
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security, the rules are still the rules. he doesn't live by those rules. he's never had to live by those rules. this is is an adjustment that he has no idea what he's in store for >> it is incredible when we think about it. all right, thank you so much, michael. i appreciate it. let me also just say the food is terrible. >> fathers that you don't control what you eat, you don't control when you sleep. i mean, all of it. i mean, did you say it is impossible to imagine it, but when you say it perhaps gives everyone a glimpse but what it could be. >> all right. well, next we have breaking news. we are just moments away from polls closing in ohio and this race matters hunger games basically playing out in the republican primary. four senate, senate it said that could decide the entire balance of power and trump is at the center of it tonight. plus us troops about to get kicked out of a country that was once a key us ally is putin behind this space shuttle columbia, the final flight,
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slip-ups. you just slip in in there ron tried sketches, slip ends >> breaking news. the first polls have just closed and tonight's elections five states are voting and we're watching closely for signs of strengths or weaknesses for biden and trump. but there are other crucial racist tonight, and we are expecting results from ohio at any moment republicans they're trying to take down democratic senator sherrod brown, locked in ugly primary fight and in that three-way race, the trump-backed candidate isn't a dead heat with a more moderate republican so can you bring him over the finish line tonight? it is a crucial test and jeff zeleny is out front he's one of the last democrat standing and ohio. >> thank you for the endorsement. thank you all for being a senator sherrod brown is one of the biggest republican targets of the year seat, could determine control of the us senate. but that fall campaign may hinge on tonight's outcome of an acrimonious gop primary, which in the closing days has revolved as much around donald
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trump as any of the rivals in the race. >> bernie of these people vote which say well, you're going to win >> the former president has taken sides and thrown elbows in a bruising three-way republican contest. his candidate, cleveland businessman bernie moreno. >> how do we ohio feel about president donald j? trump is seen by some top ohio >> republicans as the party's weakest choice to win in november, the person clearly who has the best shot at winning in the fall it's matt dolan. there's aza node ab republican governor mike 2y1 is backing state senator matt dolan, whose family owns the cleveland guardians baseball franchise and has repeatedly drawn trump's ire. >> my attitude is anybody that changes the name of the cleveland indians? to the cleveland guardians should not be a senator. >> the >> campaign has been >> caustic and costly with more than $40 million spent on tv v
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in digital ads alone, mega alerts. president trump wants you to vote for outsider businessman bernie moreno, matt dolan out for himself. not you can you trust frank larose including by a democratic super pac, with ties to senate majority leader chuck schumer, promoting marino trump's >> candidate, marina would do donald trump's bidding. >> ohio secretary of state >> frank larose, the third candidate in the race, told us it was a clear sign. democrats wanted to run against moreno. >> why would they spend over 3 >> million to try to boost bernie moreno was pretty clear. chuck schumer believes that he's the weakest opponent to sherrod brown in an increasingly ready ohio, where trump won by eight points in 2020. >> the >> race has become a test for this style and substance of the republican party in the age of trump findings about results. >> okay and it doesn't mean you go and shout and scream that you can respect the other side hi you fight for what you believe tonight, it will become clear whether more voters
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responded. dolan's attempts to lower the temperature or follow trump's lead >> everybody's bashing everybody. i believe the merino commercials that he will support the can trump agenda for brown as he seeks a fourth term in the senate, he acknowledges the challenge ahead, not only from republicans maybe my toughest race, how much of a weight is the democratic party and the biden administration? no on you as a candidate, i always run my own race. i will continue to run my own race. i will try to analyze if biden does well here, trump does well well, there. i've run ahead of our presidential candidates and i will >> so we aren't as the polls are closing here tonight, we are getting a snapshot of the electorate. republicans who voted today, the preliminary the exit poll numbers are so instructive. let's take a look at a couple of them. >> any >> opinion of trump when he was president 57% of voters, today's at a strongly prove
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20% said they somewhat approved. so if you add those together, some three-quarters of republicans approve, perhaps not surprisingly, but the disapproved number also interesting, four 18% strongly disapprove 7% somewhat disapprove. so clearly there's an opening therefore, a non-trump candidates, but take a look at these numbers for president and biden republican primary voters were asked if they believed he legitimately 1.20, 26 in ten republicans say he did not, 32% say he did so that of course such the table for the conversation going on in the months ahead to november, error. and the reason this race is so important, the senate majority hinges on two seats on only one if the president's party is still in power here. so that's why this race will be one to keep an eye on until november >> all right. thank you very much, jeff zeleny. basil is michael, former chief of the new york democratic party, out front, and harry enten, our data guru, harry, those numbers on these exit polls i suppose we should not, we should no
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longer be surprised. what do you say? shocked but not surprised. yes. about the gop 63% saying biden is not the legitimate budget, legitimately elected, but it is incredible. >> yeah, i don't think we can be surprised anymore, but we can still shake our heads that about two-thirds of the republican electorate, depending on which primary state you're jumping to believe something that's a gazi that's fake. we all know that biden legitimately won that election, yet two-thirds of republicans believe otherwise, depending again, and on the state trick you're looking at. and that's your shows the stranglehold that donald trump has over the republican party. there are still maybe about a quarter of that republican party that's willing to go the other way. that is that strongly or somewhat disapprove that jeff was pointing out. but the fact that they are minority, the majority of the party is firmly in trump's pocket. all right. on that point though, i'm just going to take the strongly disapprove proof on this exit poll for the republican voters in an ohio tonight 14%, strongly disapprove right? what does that mean? does that mean that they are i mean, you could
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presume maybe those people are gonna have gone for haley or but do they get back on board? do they are they truly going to to be the people who possibly decide this whole election? >> yeah. i mean, i think in terms of the general election, this is the kind of that's the kind of voter that joe biden is going to go after, right? he's going to go after that sort of not republican, but not satisfied with donald trump would probably voted for nikki haley, but really just doesn't like the direction of the republic publican party. but it is concerning, quite frankly, that's of the republican remember when one in three persons, you know, hio was a swing-state. remember those remember those standing in ohio, so it must have been 2012. >> yeah. >> and i was there that night on election night because we needed someone there because as goes, ohio gov so as the nation that's right. i was the last time that >> is. so it's really concerning that. but 63% in ohio of republicans, but we see that pan and across the country that there is this denialism of
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joe biden being the duly elected president in this country. that really does go to show you how donald trump has really changed the republican party to shift to his worldview. it also suggests that which is what's happening in ohio now, this might be the last stand for a sort of mainstream republican to potentially meet sherrod brown in the general election. but where are mainstream republicans across the country in terms of their ability to stand? and up against trump endorsed republic's. >> i should refine what i said. i mean, it's the last time that ohio went the way of the country, but it's last time that ohio was really up for grabs ohio's become a red state >> okay, >> so in this context, ohio being red state whereas president biden's money, it's time. well, not in ohio. he's going to nevada and arizona these battlegrounds and certainly he's going to go to the middle last as well, but he's going there largest panic and latino populations in both crucial voting block this time around, especially in the context of the broader conversations. but 1.8 million votes combined at stake between
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those two states and these hispanic and black voters and biden, this has been an area has been struggling. what some might consider to a bend, certainly among black voters, his base, but even among some hispanic voters. so you have been talking about this with me for a long time where is by now versus where he was four years ago with those groups? >> yeah. there's been a lot of folks who've been analyzing these numbers and show that biden has been doing significantly worse among black and hispanic voters compared to the exit polls four years ago. but there was some argument, okay, wait a minute. but what about this point in time where i went back to this point in time four years ago and you still see bind doing considerably worse than he was holes four years ago at this time. in the election and correct. got it. exactly right. and what we see as a joe biden still winning among black voters, but only by 50 points, it was up 72 points at this point that 2020 cycle. and among hispanic voters, biden is barely ahead just by two points versus 21 points at this point in the 2020 cycle on those
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black voters, i have never seen a democratic president show candidate in my lifetime, leading by such a small margin as joe biden is at this particular point in time >> so those numbers leave your jaw on the floor >> i'm concerned and i'm concerned for this particular point. this notion of the lesser of two evils has really started, has sunken in. and that is what's concerning me in 2016, there was a lot of conversation around the lesser of two evils comparisons to 4 million couldn't donald trump. that sameness, same as these yeah, it wasn't the same. it's never been the same. and the concern is that that language and that narrative we'll get baked into this election. they are not the same when you have donald trump out there saluting the individuals who were engaged in an insurrection and went to jail if you have if you have them out there they basically saying they don't care about that or they care about other things. i mean, plus 21. >> yeah. >> two plus two. >> i honestly think by the by
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the end of this election, they will care. they'll care about democracy. they'll care about the fact that donald trump is out there with his conservative colleagues restricting voter access as opposed to expanding it. and let me tell you why that. i am more concerned about that point than anything else. because the brennan center for justice just released a report saying that the gap between white and non-white voter turnout is widening and it's widening and where the supreme court has actually gutted the voting rights act. and what, what i would say in response that is, look at what conservatives, both voters and elected to judges have done. they've restricted your rights, not increase them. and that's the that's the kind of message that i think needs to need to hit at home with those voters. >> and so harry biden trump has also been going to those same states. yeah. >> i mean, these are the states we all know. these are the great seven. yeah. that determined the whole thing last time and very melt well me,
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this time. i mean, you had what, arizona, georgia, 10,000 votes between the two of them so what are the state's yeah, you're looking at now? yeah. i mean, look, you pointed out georgia where there's a large african-american population. so that hits on the slide. we just spoke about well, what about arizona and nevada? those are the states where 20 plus percent of likely voters are hispanic and look here, it's the same trend line among hispanics at this point in 2020 versus at this point in 2024 right now, the biden biden's the leads, but those leaves have shrunk significantly by somewhere between 20.30 percentage points. i have never seen anything like this. aaron and unless asked and asking the question, either one, we're on our way to a major realignment or to pollsters have gotten something very, very wrong. >> what we will get there, we will get there because i believe that african american voters who have stood up for the democratic party time and time again, recognize that they are probably the only voters that really stand between the future of and further elections versus autocratic government
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are tearing. well, we >> will see, but those numbers certainly are sending and we're gonna be talking about adding so where are we talking about >> that? all right. thank you both. and outfront >> next, he was america's >> ambassador to russia under trump. now though he has been banned ambassador john sullivan is neck, and former president trump now threatening to deport prince harry if he's reelected. >> outcome why choose asleep numbers smart bad? >> can it keep warm when i'm cold? >> wait, no, i'm always hot. >> number. does that now say what do thousand dollars when you purchase like pepper smart beds? adjustable bates pens monday shop now and sleep number >> am i cry
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have my attention. >> how do i get analysts don't want it today >> united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday at nine on cnn >> tonight another doctored photo taken by kate middleton. this after footage of the royal has emerged, leading to more speculation and wild conspiracy theories now getty images placing an editorial advisory on this second photo, which we've got up here on the screen that's the picture of queen elizabeth with ten of her
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grandchildren or great grandchildren shot in 2022, cnn analysis, finding signs that it was altered in as many as 19 places 19. so nick, what is out front to show you exactly what changed getty images now says this pick taken by kate duchess of cambridge, released last year of the queen and the grandkids and the great grandkids was quote digitally enhanced at source a hot but here and then another hotspot here that lighting is weird to me to capture a photo of children this young, all looking at the camera and all smiling is very difficult. 60 to 70% chance i would be switching ahead here and kate earlier admitted to amateur editing of this recent smiley snap before it was released, there's a sort of wrist cardigan situation over here.
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if one of the folds >> was bulging out then she would have liquified it and it would have distorted her hand. >> so what it's just a little photoshop. >> well, >> number one, we are told kate is recovering from surgery, hadn't been seen since christmas, fueling breathless bonkers, conspiracy theories, the fudged photo supersized the breathlessness. there are some suggestion that caters indisposed and it's a complete fabrication. and it's super sinister >> i guess that's possible. but if somebody were this good as a retouch, her to make it look this natural they would have perfected the imperfections. they wouldn't have done a bad job on the cloning of the jacket number to the royal pressure up is usually pretty slick imposing rules on how weak commoners can use official royal photos no cropping or photoshopping. so why are they now engaged in such amateurish jiggering curry? >> let's just say this one's
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hysterically crying. he's looking off in blinked. you would have to answer the question whether that's you know, not photo journalistic integrity because if this was a photo that was 20 shots were taken in exactly the same place in a matter of a minute. and you switch two heads for smiles. how unethical, not changing the history. you're not changing the narrative journalistically, jordan, ethical to do that you wouldn't do that. no. you wouldn't do that. okay okay >> number three public images, almost all the royals have left. they don't do a lot of actual ruling. it's mostly shaking hands, opening supermarkets and stuff and just looking great. so an image dent, a collapse of trust is a big deal for what is essentially an anachronistic institution that survives on goodwill. >> maybe she should have an
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in-house retouched saw newspaper just published some of the first images of kate in the wild this year than the telegraaf ran a story alleging it's not kd, but a look alike is trust eroding. that's the so what of it all? >> and aaron in that interview, you just mentioned donald trump's weighing in. he's on team kate >> he also said that >> prince harry might have been deported for lying on his visa application should donald trump returned to the white house. anyway, the royal family has been essentially retouching for centuries. henry the eighth was undoubted italy, uglier in real life than he was in those beautiful portraits. you just can't get away with it anymore >> palace has >> said, kate's gonna be out and about again, easter ten days from now, let's see if she comes out does a little dance. maybe everyone will stop getting there bloomers and a bunch about all this but i doubt it. >> yeah, ever now, it's hard to it's hard to go back. >> thanks for joining us. the