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americans now called their top concern according to recent polling. today, president biden and former president trump made dueling visits. the texas southern border, biden to brownsville, trump to eagle pass, to cities about 300 miles apart. two candidates who each in his own way has failed to fill fix a broken and severely overburdened border security and asylum system. president biden and many believed by omission, by not making the problem enough of a priority until recently, even after a year of increasing numbers of people crossing the border and rising border encounters which set new records and don't trump by commission. he's actively opposing any action until after he presumably wins the election. even though today he painted the problem as an imminent existential threat. >> these are the people that are coming into our country and they're coming from jails and they're coming from prisons and they coming from mental institutions. and they're coming from insane asylums. and they are terrorists. they're being let into our country and
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it's horrible. it's honorable. you look at the jails now you take a look at the jails throughout the region, but more importantly throughout the world. the emptying out because they're dumping them into the united states >> actually studies have shown the migrants commit fewer crimes as a percentage than us citizens do. but hyperbole aside it's hard to say his focus on the border is misplaced. it's a problem. it needs to be addressed. keeping them honest, though the former president is only campaigning on it, not addressing the problem worse than that as you likely know, he's come out against bipartisan senate legislation, which toughens border security titans the asylum process, and pays for more courts and judges in border enforcement he told house republicans to torpedo the bill and they did. but imagine if he didn't, he could have gone to the border today and pointed to the tough new border legislation that he and republican lawmakers forced the president to accept, could have, but didn't which left president biden today to attempt to seize the high ground on an issue which fair to say he has hardly taken the
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lead on here's what i would say to mr. trump said a plan policy issue, set of telling members of congress to block the southern station join me, or i'll join, you. and telling the congress to pass this bipartisan border security bill. >> we can do it together >> cnn's kristen holmes is in eagle pass, texas covering the former president's visit, cnn's priscilla alvarez joins us from brownsville where president biden spoke let's start with kristen holmes. so kristen, what else did the former president's say >> well, anderson, when he took to the stage, you really repeated what we've heard pulling from a familiar playbook that he's been doing since 2015 when he announces first presidential bid and said that mexico was sending over drugs and rapists. he stoked fear and he used rhetoric linking immigration and violent crime. and this is something again that propelled him to the white house in 2016. and also really helped build the base that we he now see that surrounds a props up donald trump. but today he's really
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trying to reach people outside of that bases, hoping that this message is going to help him to the white house again in 2024, particularly given that polling that we had the seeing it, you mentioned that shows that immigration is the number one issue for voters and then biden's approval rating on the issue is very low, much lower than donald trump's was. but one i think he didn't bring up despite the fact that he continued to say he alone can fix the border that if you brought voted him into office, he would fix it. he had all the solutions. he did not bring up the fact that he chained to that bipartisan border bill and told republicans both privately and publicly, not to vote for it, not to support it. >> but whether or not that message gets through to people who are fearful of immigration, who are fearful of what is going on at the border that remains >> unclear because he clearly knows how to tap into that messaging. >> so nobody asked oh, he did anybody ask him about tanking the border bill or he didn't he certainly didn't bring up on his own. you're saying well, you didn't bring it up on his own and neither did any of the conservative republican texas
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officials who are within some of whom had publicly please support at the border bill before donald trump came out against it. now, we did not have an opportunity to question trump. we actually didn't even get close enough to him. they had us in a press pen far away. we thought we would be at the remarks, but we were not we were told he was going to answer questions. >> maybe >> the pool as some questions, but he did not answer any. it was more billed as i was build his remarks that was actually ended up being beach. he has not really answered anything on that other than to say that it had nothing to do with politics, that it was a bad deal, and just want to note, he said it was a bad deal. despite the fact that it had restrictions in place that republicans have been fighting for, for decades, despite the fact that it was negotiated by one of the most conservative senators in the senate who fought for the he's things. and it would have put in place some of the restrictions that again, they have been working towards donald trump himself has been calling for, but he said it was a bad deal. and he said that only he could fix it. now they're line is that this is executive action that biden should be taking, that he took donald trump took executive action and biden should take it
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as well. and that is how they are spinning getting his decision to come out against that bill or kristen holmes. thank you. next to cnn's priscilla alvarez, who is with in the room for president biden's remarks. so what else did president biden say besides those comments directed to the former president? >> well going into today, the intention by president biden was to place more pressure on congress to pass that failed senate border bill because it was his white house officials and senate negotiators who worked to hammer out that compromise. so that is what the focus was for president biden today. and it was notable that he actually cited some republican talking points focusing on fentanyl cartels criminals in talking about the need for resources for the department of homeland security. so trying to make that direct connection that without that help, without that legislation, he can't get what the department needs to enforce the us-mexico border and he repeatedly said that it was quote, time to act, but it was notable of course that he did
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reference his predecessor sasser in his remarks because as you heard, there from kristen, it was former president donald trump that played a critical role in scuttling this deal that republicans had worked on hammering and in talking to white house officials and campaign officials, they're hoping that voters can make this connection, that they can see that there was a solution on the table and that republicans walked away from it. so that is why president biden is leaning into this moment and trying to you use this as an opportunity and frankly, anderson, it has been a pivotal moment for this white house, which up until this point, i really distanced itself from the us-mexico border. >> so the white house, it's sort of raised the idea i kind of off for the record about possibly an executive action. is there was that just a trial balloon? what is there a plan b in the absence of getting something passed in congress? >> well, sources telling me that this is still very much under consideration and being worked through this requires administration attorneys to review and what is being
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consumed sittard is restrictions on the ability for migrants to seek asylum in the us if they cross unlawfully using an authority that former president donald trump also tried to you he tried to shut down the border. this seems to be a little different though we still don't have the text of it. so there is a plan b that is being worked through, but it's still not the same as enshrining something into law. and that's what white house officials come back to they can try to do more on the us-mexico border, but none of it will be the same if it's not written in the law, which is exactly what forward well, president donald trump base because everything he did was legally challenged in court and they're anticipating the same could happen with any action president biden takes. the pressure is still going to remain on congress. but as you heard from the former president today, there is still a push by republicans for the president to take more executive action. and on the us-mexico border, priscilla >> alvarez in brownsville. thank you. join us now, connecticut democratic senator chris murphy, one of the negotiators on that bipartisan
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senate legislation that the former president tanked. senator murphy. i mean, when you see the foreign president at the southern border today referring to criminals and terrorists and people from mental hospitals after he effectively kill the bipartisan bill that you worked in, negotiate what, what runs through your mind >> well, first of all, this invasion rhetoric is just absolutely disgusting and seen a phobic is racist you go to ukraine. you see what an actual invasion looks like. this is somebody who dodge the draft who has no idea what an actual war looks like. but here's the bottom line. president trump does not want to fix the border he does not want to fix the border because all he wants is a catholic border because he thinks it helps him politically. we had a deal, a bipartisan compromise, a tough sell that of new restrictions on the border, including the ability for the president united states to close portions of the border when crossings get too high and donald trump instructed his allies it's in the united states senate to kill that bill. and he's been pretty clear why, because he
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thought it would help joe biden because it would be good for america so we still have a chance let's to come together and pass that bipartisan border bill that would help us control the border yeah, i'm trump is the primary thing standing in the way. you know, it's interesting because the president had tweeted out the former president had tweeted out. this is not a perfect border bill. obviously, no bill is perfect. it's called the compromise and things have to make compromises, but certainly democrats bent over backwards in ways they hadn't before. and i mean this was as you say, a very tough border bill, kyrsten sinema had said that according to the requirements in this border bill, if they were in place, the border would have been shut down pretty much every day of this year that's right because this bill included an unprecedented ability for the president to stop processing claims in between the ports of entry tree when crossings are above 5,000 a day and they have been above
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5,000 a day since the end of last year our compromise bill was supported by the pro-trump border patrol union. it was supported by the wall street journal, the chamber of commerce. this is a conservative, tough bill that would have allowed the president to control the border. and because it actually would have been successful in controlling the border republicans led by tunnel drunk killed it because they just can't imagine a world in which they can exploit the border for political purposes. >> it also seemed to have pretty sensible requirements on increasing funding for judges to process asylum claims much quicker when people first crossover. i mean, the asylum system in this country is insane that people full spend can just say that whether they want to claim asylum and it'll take years for any kind of a hearing into play take place. and meanwhile, they're here and legally they can't work. >> arctic ocean sick for months and people were in patient to see the product, but it was because we were acting actually
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trying to solve the problem. we weren't writing a bill that was just going to score political points senator lankford and i are very different politically, but we are committed to solving the problem. and one of the problems is that when you comment for this country to seek asylum, it often takes ten years for your claim to be adjudicated. and so it's an incentive for people to come into the country who have invalid claims because you you get ten years of working in the united states, even if you don't qualify for asylum. so what are bill would have done is not just allow the president has shut down the border, but also so expedite the asylum process so that all those claims are heard in six months instead of ten years. and what that would do is provide a tremendous disincentive to anybody coming to the united states who was it's going to lose their claim. so our bill would have fixed a lot of the biggest problems in the immigration system. and again, that's the reason donald trump opposes it because it actually would've worked. >> i mean, do you accept that president biden and his team waited too long because there is an argument that he waited too long to address the gravity
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of this crisis today's trip was only the second time, and he's actually visited the southern border. you kind of pondered off on kamala harris a while back. i mean, this this border deal probably could have gotten done a lot sooner well, president biden in his first week or so in office introduced and immigration and border reform bill. and though it didn't get then he coverage in the press, he implemented one of the toughest new regulatory regimes at the border in decades a regime that was opposed who does by frankly many progressive immigration groups. so it's just actually not true when people say, well, president biden didn't do anything on the border until the summer. he actually had what changed is that they're not 10,000 people showing up on a daily basis. and so the crisis is bigger. it's more immediate. and will also change is that finally, republicans, we thought were willing to come to the table and get something
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done, something they were not willing to do for the first three years of president biden's term, it's also closer those are closer to the election and there's more pressure on the white house to actually do something i guess the argument is could if he had been willing to if democrats have been willing to negotiate in the way that you guys did on this bill. now earlier, would that have do you think it would have had a chance of passing? >> no, i understand now that republicans will not support a bipartisan border fix that they are only interested in this issue remaining a political wedge issue like what would republican senators do on the weekends if they couldn't fly down to the border, dress up like border patrol officers and portray in pretend that they're chasing down undocumented immigrants. so i don't think at any point republicans were going to be ready to get a deal. donald trump was never going to let that happen. >> there's murphy as erin murphy. thank you so much for your time. more now on what happens in the absence of any agreement on how to address the border problem and who pays the
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price for continuing which obviously a broken system ed lavendera has that the edge of buyer john finn's eagle pass wrench stretches along three-and-a-half miles of the border, looking into >> mexico, thousands of migrants have come through here the remnants of discarded clothing are everywhere texas authorities have installed miles of fencing and stretches of razor wire. >> you're on the frontline of this crisis here on the rio grande. >> when >> you see what it looks like around here what do you make of it when you come out here? >> well, i mean, it's it's a bad situation, so horrible situation >> but what john finn mostly c's there's a lot of politicians not willing to work together, doesn't understand why lawmakers can't pass legislation to resolve the migrant crisis. >> do you feel like you're kind of helpless as that? toxic politics continues to rage in
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dc over this >> it's frustrating. there's two different politics working against each other, but we have one side saying that they want to do it one way and one side saying they're going to you did another. and that's that separation that we have to come together >> eagle pass has become the epicenter of the political battle over border security. the stage where the texas republican governor is in a showdown with the biden administration and federal immigration authorities. >> how long are we going to be going like this? >> rosa ariana worked as a customs and border protection agent for 14 years she's become a local republican party activists and as frustrated by the gridlock, if we're still going to be on opposite extremes at the republicans won it my way or the highway and the democrats are the same way. we're not going to get anywhere excuse me, keep getting band-aid fix after band-aid fix. that's going to happen. >> all right. y'know, says the focus needs to be on cartel human smugglers. she says, they'll continue to outmaneuver authorities at the border until
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washington ends. the partisan bickering good. doesn't take a rocket scientist to go ahead and figure this out at boggles my mind. be like, how can you grow men that have been elected by your constituents, not be able to figure out this. you know, how to fix this broken system. >> it's got to stop, it's got to come to an in. >> people like buyer john finn are left waiting for politicians to figure this out while he barely recognizes parts of his own land covered in razor wire and discarded clothing the prominent theme that you hear talking to people on the board over the last few months is just the last of encouragement in the lack of confidence that any of this will be resolved anytime soon. so it was fitting for many people that president biden is in brownsville for president trump is in eagle pass more than 300 miles apart. but the political reality is that this political gap is much, much wider than those 300 miles, but they were separated by two ed lavendera. thanks. coming up
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thank you with promotional products from four imprint.com in britain for certain united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday, a nine on cnn breaking news now, on the former president's trial for mishandling classified documents and a new filings. special counsel, jack smith proposes moving to trial date for may 20th to july 8. the former president's attorneys who repeatedly pressed to delay the timeline of the trial, had filed their own motion they again demand that the trial happened after the presidential election, but and this is a surprising new development. they say, if it can't wait until after the election than they propose august 12 of this year for the former president and a codefendant and a september 9 and september 9th for another co-defendant judge aileen cannon, is expected to address the trial date during a hearing tomorrow. that comes the same day that we learned that jack smith wants to be able to ask prospective jurors whether they believed the 2020 election was stolen. want to
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get some perspective now on all this from former federal prosecutor elie honig and former nixon white house counsel, john dean. what do you make it this july 8th day? >> well, so that's a really interesting missing development that there could be some agreement here between the parties to do a trial in july or august. and if that's the deal, i think i see why each side might be interested in that. it tells me, first of all that jack smith has now concluded that it's very unlikely he's going to get his january 6 trial and we just saw the supreme court take that case yesterday. i think he's done the math and seeing that that's essentially a done deal in terms of trying it before the election, this would allow jack smith to at least try the mar-a-lago case before the election and from trump's team perspective, they get the win of moving the january 6 trial until after trial until after the election and it allows that they would go ahead with the florida trial, the mar-a-lago trial, but you're going to have a good jury there. if you're donald trump, you're going to have half that jury is going to be trump supporters, trump voters. so there's also questions about the judge that the judge has been good for trump's. so i think if you're trump's lawyers and we've had
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reporting on this, you're feeling pretty good about your chances in florida. >> the >> august 12, date, which they say that can be a fallback option to turn team. >> i mean, how >> long a trial are we looking at this feels to me and i know the parties put in different requests and estimates. i think trump's team said eight to ten weeks, i think doj said six to eight weeks. i think you're looking at a six to eight week trial. i think that's a good estimate, but that what we're doing when the math here that would take you from august into september, into october, that's we can have a verdict in that scenario really close to election day. >> john, what do you think is at play here? i mean, do you think the trump team sees the judge as being more favorable to him? they'd rather deal with her this summer than judge chutkan i think that's a real possibility that they think that there is still outstanding possibility she could be removed from this case there are some motions in front of her that they're going to be dealt with tomorrow. and if if she rules the wrong way, jack smith might seek to remove her. there's a motion to to reconsider evidence that would be made available on witnesses
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and jurors. that is pretty sensitive and particularly in a case of high profile. so that hasn't been resolved yet. we'll possibly be resolved tomorrow. but i also think anderson that they have undoubtedly poll this case vis-a-vis the washington, dc january 6 case, and found probably that they're with their base. this is less severe, less interest. what have you than the election interference case >> elie, what are you expecting from this hearing tomorrow? do you think we'll have an actual answer on the tunnel? >> i do think so. it's about time that the judge set a specific trial date. we're far enough out. the other thing i'm watching for is the parties are now negotiating and disagreeing about what should they ask the prospective jurors that people who are potentially going to decide this case and what each side is trying to do. if you look at their proposed questions, is essentially identify jurors who are going to be hostile to them so that the parties can eliminate those jurors and that jack smith wanted to ask about if they
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believe in the documents case, they believe the 2020 election, which has nothing to do with the documents case, but it's almost a perfect proxy for whether someone support trump or not. and the idea from either side is you want to get rid of those jersey. they'll be allowed to asked that question. >> it's a weird one to me because it has >> nothing to do with the case. and there will be other ways that the parties can learn about where the where the perspective jurors sit. they can ask them, are you registered as a republican or democrat? do you have strong feelings about any of the parties so that one seems at a left field for me, but they're going to be trying to suss out basically, what does this person think out? donald trump, john, is that appropriate for them to do >> i think they certainly can get to the bottom of who these jurors are about want to. it's not an inappropriate question. is as i was as it's really just a weird question, as the litmus test, it might be because it it shows their respect for the rule of law in many ways. could be a disqualifier for the government would cost that
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juror if they could not run out of preempts to remove them. so i think i think that the government is and trump have been doing a lot of research on what kind of jury hey, they want for this case. it's a sophisticated case in some regards, it's a laid down case and others because it's very document-heavy and it's pretty clear, it's a pretty simple case, but it's also politically very going to be very embarrassing for donald trump. >> john dean, elie honig, thanks so much coming up next. everything we're learning at this hour about the chaos and loss of life around a convoy of aid trucks in gaza so this is pickleball >> with each trade for morgan stanley were ready for whatever gets served up, didn't get a whipping chest i'd rather work on saving for retirement poole college since you'd like to get schooled >> it's pretty good burned right?
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>> comb download the free app now, closed captioning brought to you by mesobook.com our firm has offered a free book about mesothelioma for over ten years mesothelioma is really all we do. >> 80087 to 4901 they're still for more questions and answers about what happened exactly during and around an aid delivery this morning in northern gaza. gaza's hamas-run health ministry says at least 112 people were killed. the palestinian ambassador to the un put, now puts the death toll 122 people cnn can't confirm
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either figure. cnn's alex marquardt has more details >> pandemonium as desperate palestinians, russia, convoy of aid trucks in the northern part of gaza, where aid which has already scarce, is in painfully short supply in this drone video released by the israeli military, the trucks are surrounded, people climbing on top of the trucks, chaos and panic. >> this >> is before dawn on in gaza city, the biggest city in the enclave. israeli troops are nearby. you can see here israeli tanks alongside the convoy then gunshots there are conflicting accounts of what happened. eye witnesses say israeli troops fired into the crowd, fueling the chaos. a journalist hotter of zaanoun, who was on the scene said that idf soldiers killed about 20 people in the crowd cnn cannot corroborate that claim. the idf has changed its account throughout the day. most recently saying that israeli tanks were issuing warning
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shots to disperse a crowd after seeing people were being trampled, and earlier account from the idf said there were two separate incidents one where crowds rush the trucks and cause them to run over other civilians and a subsequent event where idf soldiers fired on a group of palestinians who approached their military outpost and posed a threat. panic appears to have spread. the idf says consuming the truck drivers who tried to speed away. and in the process killing dozens, ran coming up and running them over. >> there was no idf strike on this aid. >> israel says its military was helping with a humanitarian operation. >> the tanks that were there to secure the convoy sees the gazans being trampled and cautiously dries to disperse the mob with a few warning shots. >> the death toll more than 100 palestinians killed today, according to the palestinian ministry of health. and more than 700 injured of cnn cannot verify have you been want to ask is holding a body?
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>> this man says, he went to get a bit of bread, a bag of flour for his family. what is clear, however, is that today's deaths are the result of the dire humanitarian situation resulting from the israel hamas war that has driven so many of gaza's population more than 2 million to despair and hunger. today's horrors coming the same day, the death toll in gaza since the war began crossed 30,000 according to the palestinian health ministry, most of them women and children. >> let me start by addressing the tragic incident in northern gaza today. the us state department said they are urgently seeking more information on what happened. people need more food. they need more water they need medicine and other humanitarian goods, and they need it now alex marquardt joins us now. so prison biden said today, this will complicate the ceasefire talks. what else did he say? yeah, anderson, he acknowledged that these that this would make
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the talks more difficult. he also walked back the timeframe. remember couple of days ago he had said that a ceasefire could be in place by monday today. he acknowledged that that was probably unlikely though he added hope springs eternal. we also know that the president spoke with his egyptian and qatari counterparts. these three countries, of course, are the main mediators and trying to get israel and hamas to a ceasefire. now, sources that i've been speaking with throughout today say that more than anything, this incident today shows that there is an urgency to get to the ceasefire, to be able to provide more humanitarian aid. it is unclear according to these sources to what extent this instead, it will derail the talks. that is something that hamas has said could happen. or to what extent it could actually help accelerate the talks. but anderson, i think the bottom line here, when you look at those scenes it is clear that not nearly enough aid is getting into gaza, and it is not getting to the places where it needs to be. and if there were a ceasefire, it would not only be a piece however, temporary a
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break in the fighting. it would not only see israeli hostages released after almost five months, but it would certainly help alleviate lot of that desperation was marquardt, thanks very much joining us from tel aviv. now, idf spokesman lieutenant colonel peter lerner, lieutenant colonel lerner, a local reporter on the scene, says that shots fired by the idf led to panic, buy the truck drivers and people desperate for supplies, people were run over then according to the director of one hospital in gaza city's spoke to new york times. that person said about 100 patients were brought in with gunshot wounds. we can't verify those numbers. i know you said earlier on air that the idf fired warning shots. if that's all they did, how did so many people get gunshot wound? >> allison, thank you. i'm not aware of so many people receiving any gunshot wounds and i would say we need to be very, very cautious at accepting anything that comes out of the hamas ministry of health, as we would be cautious of accepting anything coming out over the isis ministry of health or the al-qaeda ministry of health the reality is, is
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this humanitarian operation in the early hours of yesterday morning for the fourth consecutive day, we are conducting an operation to get humanitarian aid and food supplies into northern gaza. as the food supplies proceeded into the northern gaza strip. masses of people stormed the convoy of over 30 trucks. as you can see in the footage, the amount of people that just went to the trucks, it was immense and an extensive and what we understand is that throughout the case of these actions, many people trampled beaten, and in some cases, even run over and we understand that dozens of people were actually run over and killed in this incident, right? indeed, the idf, we're securing the area we had a threat to one of our tanks where people were advancing towards the tank. >> the >> forces opened fire with
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light arms, machine gun, with warning shots. those warning shots as the people continued to move forward a continuing what two of the perceived threat needed continued to a limited control burst of fire. and this is the images that we've seen come out. and then the forces then retreated. so it was a very limited contained engagement on the ground. and most of the casualties and fatalities are absolutely from the initial incident of storming the convoy. this is the tragedy. this is a tragedy of this event. and indeed, another desperate situation as a result of this war >> transform your skin in one simple step introducing polish choice. mandela can lactic acid, ha, liquid exfoliate,
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why we cut to commercial break he is kind enough to stick around. so again, joining us from tel aviv idf spokesman the ten colonel peter lerner you were saying essentially that there were two separate issues. i know earlier in the day that's what you had said, that there were two separate issues. there were people swarming over the food convoy and then there were also people who approached a position that was somewhat close. is that still what you're saying happened >> yeah, absolutely. that's the reality we understand here's what we know that people were swarming the trucks indeed >> some of those got crushed and killed by the vehicles, the trucks that were moving forward and at a second incident adjacent, at a short distance away, approaching one of our tanks and putting soldiers at risk. of course, in the nature of the combat that we are facing with a 360 degree risk
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of terrorists that are not wearing uniform that will attach an explosive device to our tanks and our armed vehicles there is a distinct threat and that is why they opened fire with warning shots to begin with. and when the people continue to move towards the tank, less than five meters away. and as when the force opened fire towards those that continue their probe to breck progress forward. so it was a challenge. >> so do you know how many people idf forces killed in that incident in who you say we're approaching the tang we understand it is around probably less than ten people that were injured and wounded and perhaps killed in this incident. unfortunate reality, i don't know who they are, and i can't identify that at this take at this stage, obviously it does not relate and even if i saw that we're airing the al jazeera footage there, and i've watched that extensively also throughout the day. it's clear that they're very short bursts,
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very contains that would not explain the magnitude of the numbers that hamas has been reporting. so either their numbers are inaccurate, which would make sense but they definitely have nothing to do with the idf fire. >> earlier in the day, you would also said that that there was gunfire from palestinians at around the food convoys. are you still saying that? because there we have an eyewitness on the ground who had said that the gunfire he said by israeli forces panic >> i've lost your audio. anderson, i think it's snouts flipped on my side. i don't know if you can hear me and i got the beginning of the question. i understand that there was an exchange or fire towards the trucks after they progressed even further going north and we understand that one of their drivers, one of the palestinian drivers, was actually killed as a result of this. this is a report we've received.
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>> i would say that the incident is still being investigated and there may be some more information that comes out that we will of course make public. we understand the severity of the situation in northern gaza we understand that there is a dire humanitarian situation, and this is precisely the reason why we've been putting an effort to get food supplies up into the north over the last few days extensively. the reality is a reality that is challenging. it is a reality where they're in the north of gaza. there is still combat and attacks that are taking place and now we are seeking out the hamas terrorists are trying to regroup in order to conduct more attacks against israel and we completely understand that the humanitarian effort goes hand in hand with the operational efforts. it's an important component of the war effort we need to get rid of hamas. and the only way to do that is to distinguish between the terrorists themselves and hamas and the people of gaza, we should differentiate, distinguish between those. >> i'm sorry. again, i was
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having ifb problems. i couldn't hear some of what you said, but but um, that i can now hear you again, you have operational control of over northern gaza mean colin powell famously told george w bush about invading iraq. if you break it, you bought it, you were overseeing this distribution site. in fact, earlier in the interview, you call this this was an operation you guys were coordinating. isn't the idf now responsible for how aid is distributed given you've taken over this territory and you've effectively destroyed the hamas-run police force. so shouldn't you be responsible for, as you said, you were securing this area, it doesn't look like the idf did a very good job. >> and listen, we worst securing, we don't have effective control over all of the northern gaza strip or the southern gaza strip for that matter either, right. but as i said, there was >> delivery convoy to a place shouldn't you have control over that area? >> there are, still combat taking place, there are still attacks, being conducted and jeopardizing the operations as
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we go forward. the idea of maintaining a flow of humanitarian aid is to get it to the people that are actually in dire need. of course, there is a challenge. of course we understand that. and if that is precisely why the facility yes, i didn't coordinated this just this morning. airdrops into northern gaza that were conducted by the jordanians continued airdrops, continuing to access. >> but as you know, rafah, as you know, though airdrops can airdrops can bring in maybe one or two trucks worth of supplies to actually bring of trucks israel could allow other vehicles to come. and right now and my understanding is there's two entrance points to there's rafah and then there's one also in the south. these trucks have to come up from the south all the way up to the north which makes it even more likely that people are going to swarm them. couldn't you also open up other avenues from the north of israel into northern
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gaza? >> we are currently looking into the possibility to creating another access point. indeed, it is definitely on the plate. i would say though that the amount of food stuff that is coming in from israel into gaza, whether it's through the rafah crossing from egypt or after it's being screened by israel or through israeli side at kerem shalom in the south. as you rightly pointed out, there's no limit from the israelis perspective. the foodstuff, shalom. >> and as you point out, israeli citizens are blocked, often blocking aid from getting in on the israeli side. no it has happened, but the flow continues. there are still till today. food supplies on the palestinian side waiting to be picked up by the un organizations. so it's the bottleneck is actually on the logistics chain supply is actually on the palestinian side and not on the israeli side. there's no limit on our side, but we're suddenly that today with the airdrops and
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absolutely we are looking into an access point from the north. it's been discussed and we are conducting our assessment in order to do it in a way which will enable the supplies to reach the people that are most in need. >> the tendon colonel lerner, i apologize for the repeated audio problems. have no idea what's going on, but i very much appreciate your patience. we have more breaking news tonight. house lawmakers have released the transcript of hunter biden, closed-door deposition on wednesday before the republican-led house oversight and judiciary committees we covered more than six hours the deposition is part of the ongoing republican impeachment inquiry into allegations that president biden benefited financially from hunter biden's overseas business ventures according to newly released transcript, hunter biden told lawmakers, quote all i know is this. my father was never involved in any of my business, ever never received a cent from anybody or never benefited in any way. never took any actions on behalf in any way. and i can absolutely 100% state that this is just not just in my case, but in every family members
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case seen as evan perez joins us now with more so understand that hunter biden and congressman matt gaetz clash during the deposition. what more do you know >> yeah, there were a lot of tense exchanges with matt gaetz in particular anderson and the theme was what you just underlined, which is a hunter biden pushing back on the idea that his father benefit at benefited from any of his business dealings overseas in ukraine or in china. i'll read you just the part of one of his exchanges where he asks, tries to turn the tables on the republicans saying, have you not been interested in another president? and his son-in-law, jared kushner, donald trump's son-in-law and his dealings in saudi arabia. what he says, i'll read you just a part of what he says here. he says, when jared kushner flies over from flood glides over to saudi arabia, picks up $2 billion, comes back and puts it in his pocket, okay. and trump is running for president united states. you guys have any problem with that matt gaetz response. the clock has stopped
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and then he responds, know the clock has not stopped. do you guys have any problem with that? i'm asking it's unbelievable to me. in part of this anderson was a hunter biden pushing back again on the idea that his father are was involved in anything and he also explained some of the text messages that republicans have been using in this impeachment an inquiry, for instance, one where they refer to the big guy sitting next to me. you're right. his father sitting next to me. what his 100 biden says is is that his father was not sitting next to him, but he also says that he was on drugs and doesn't actually remember that instance. so we have a lot of exchanges here. it looks like anderson that republicans are still pursuing their effort to impeach the president. they haven't gotten any of the evidence that they say shows the reason for that, but that's where we are at the end of all
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>> how many times and then how many different ways did hunter biden argue that his father had no involvement in his business? >> he did that repeatedly over the course of six hours or read you 111 quick part of this where he says, i appreciate appreciate the job that you have. i truly do. i appreciate she had the job that you all have. i am telling you this that if you can show me there were any money that i've had to my father other than the instance of the repayment of 13 $100 for a loan for a truck, what he's pointing out too, is that there is no there's no evidence, no financial records to show that money flowed from hunter biden to his father. >> i'm impressed. thanks so much election news now, specifically the age question, particularly so for president biden even vast numbers of democrats expressing concerns about an impulse results of his physical release yesterday, paint a picture of a healthy president with quote, no new concerns. but as you know, did not include a cognitive test cnn's john king has been asking seniors in pennsylvania about the issue for his ongoing election series all over the map. take a look
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>> down >> everything has to be an order. >> mahjong is complicated and the seniors six dots, say it helps keep them sharp, nine last wall, darrell ann murphy is the instructor. rule number one, has nothing to do with the tiles were all here to learn. we're all here for one reason, and we're never going to talk religion or politics five books come up, new shows, a fan, children and grandchildren. >> i hardly talk politics with anybody because you just don't know what the other person believes. >> so why does that matter? >> feelings are so much stronger now, let me ask a visitor, decides to break the rule. who wishes we had younger candidates who think donald trump and joe biden, or both too old to be precedent. >> think there should be a limit, an age limit at the top >> a lot of older people now are pretty darn sharp. >> this board
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>> man is not capable in my opinion. >> and i think >> in the opinion of a lot of people well, it's pathetic over the counter argument. donald trump camp know the difference between nancy pelosi and nancy haley. >> nikki haley. nikki haley, >> i can't even know about that yes. >> even those living the challenge of aging are divided on the age debate this is north hampton county, pennsylvania but place with a history of picking presidential winners. >> it's either him or trump. murphy shrugs it off when a conservative says biden is too old but some conversations worry her. >> when i start talking about joe and how i admire and respect him. i get plenty of blowback plenty of blowback. he's too old. kamala harris, forget her blowback. now, these are people who do not necessarily love trump, but they talk about wanting a better choice. >> it's a passive margin. why larry malinconico is 71, teaches geology an independent,
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but he almost always votes for the democrat. >> a biden >> fan, and forgiving when the president says he recently welcome to foreign leader who died years ago. >> i don't think he's gotten appropriate credit for the things he has done. he has a history of gaffes, but i also think that as we age we do tend to mix things up a little bit off. >> i add college is in eastern a deep blue piece of a purple county but conversations with friends and students have malinconico wishing the president's settled for just one term. >> i think there are people who will not vote for him or sit it out because they perceive his age as a potential problem. >> mickey brown is west point class of 1966. >> we tried to stay as active as possible. he plays >> tennis, pickleball, and senior softball to stay sharp, my wife, his wife though, has dementia. it lives in a care home nearby, i believe in jesus and god i think it keeps me strong and i'll be fine.
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>> brown is a conservative and two-time trump voter be insists though this view of president biden is born of experience, not politics, carrying for my wife, i see certain things and the way his mannerisms that make me wonder if he is really in fact the president >> trump's several years younger than biden, but people have raised the same question. you raised some concerns that you see him biden that you say, well, i've lived that. do you see any of that a trump? >> well, i was just at on january 31, at times, i forget something that comes back. but i'm fit. i have confidence in myself i just think the difference between the two are not me to be more concerned about mr. biden going forward than mr. trump shoulders opening, chest opening. pat levin is 94. yes. 94. and that pilates. >> it's important for to keep me vertical my age, i need all
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the help i can get. >> h. she says it's not the dominant issue among most of her friends. >> they're terrified about what might happen if joe biden doesn't. >> terrified why? >> what will, happen to this democracy as someone who is older than him pays attention to politics. what do you see? >> i don't think age should be a determinant of competence. i don't think they go together in any way, shape, or form. no, a lot of younger people who are quite incompetent. i know a lot of older people who are very competent and joe biden falls into that category for me, she knows northampton's history of razor thin margins and of picking the winner. >> i'd always surprises me because we tend to spend time with people who think the way we do. so i think everybody it is for joe biden until november comes that surprises me. >> levin will be 95 when this november comes down towards your waist. great. >> every crunch. her way of