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wouldn't say it if i didn't truly believe it >> vegas, the story of sin city sunday at ten on cnn closed captioning, bronchi by meso book.com >> mesothelioma. it's all we do with local offices throughout the country does help you get the compensation you deserve. >> eight >> to eight to 44, 44 tonight on 360 what house republicans are saying now that they've learned their star witness in the biden impeachment inquiry, who's already been charged with >> making a allegations, says he got the dirt, he was peddling from russian intelligence. we're keeping them honest also tonight, what we're learning about the russian american dual nationals now being held in russia, and how $150 charitable donation may have factored in charges that could send her to prison there for 20 years. and breaking news and the lawsuit brought by the parents of gabby petito tito against the parents of brian laundrie. the fiance, who admitted he killed her. >> good evening. thanks for
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joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news just a short time ago, the president's brother, james biden, finished up more than eight hours of testimony before the house oversight committee investigating what some republicans on the committee of alleged is criminal conduct by the biden family, though that meant committee chairman james comer was tied up for much of that time. the chairman has spent the remainder of the day dodging reporter's questions about the news which broke last night, about their star witness in their case. his name is alexander smirnoff he was charged last week with lying to the fbi when he claimed to have knowledge of corruption by president biden and his son hunter, involving ukraine then last night court documents reveal that he said he got the bogus smear material from russian intelligence now we should say at the outset that he is only an alleged liar, not a proven liar in his claims about ties to russian intelligence are just that claims what is clear though, is that nothing about all of this bolsters this guy's
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credibility. it house republican to made what he told the fbi documented in what's called an fd 1023 form the centerpiece of their impeachment inquiry. and in the day or so since the russian aspect of the story came to light, we've taken the time to uncover yet more examples of just how much credence lawmakers have put in a man and an allegations so much in doubt. now, tonight this is direct evidence of naked corruption and bribery. this is the biggest political corruption >> scandal, not only in my lifetime, but i would say the past 100 years ultimately, accountability for what i believe will uncover the biggest political corruption scandal in our nation's history. >> this is the most corrupt president you just have to read the fbi's fd 1023 form of the interview with president of burisma to see that joe biden and his son, hunter biden, were bribing were requiring from really extorting burisma to the
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tune of $10 million, $5 million for each one of them. i mean, come on. >> there's just too much evidence and it's all documented all documented if by documented, he means on a form used for recording raw and often on reporting from confidential sources that is what an fd 1023 is. though republicans also say it was corroborated by then us attorney scott brady brady himself told them that he only corroborated some of it. and most significantly in that same house interview, he said he did not determine whether the underlying underlying biden bribery claims were true. he also acknowledged that his team never reviewed some key evidence that undercut the bribery allegations it house republicans most notably oversight chair james comer and judiciary chair jim jordan. they continue to tout this 1023 and alexander smirnoff allegations such as they were even after he was arrested on the 14th. here's jim jordan, just two days later the most
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corroborating evidence we have is that 1023 form from this highly credible, confidential human source. >> highly credible. >> cnn's manu raja cut off with j chairman jordan today, asked him what he thinks now that his star witnesses, both in alleged liar and possibly a russian asset, manno joins us now so he how did that go with comer >> well, with calmer he sidestepped questions all day long. anderson, i tried to as james comer james comer about all of these allegations and tried to yell questions to him during the interview with james biden, he would not answer questions that is unusual for the chairman of the house oversight committee would typically does talk to reporters it's about all the issues under the sun, especially this investigation. but chairman jim jordan, who's also running this investigation, a. did catch up with them this morning in tried to ask him, as well as other republicans about the other thing they said, running with this unverified allegation that was memorialized in that the fd
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1023 form, and they tried to make the case that there are other pieces of information that were central to their investigation and that it was not reliant on these unverified allegations by this indicted fbi informant. and when i asked you, jim jordan specifically about his claim that this was the most corroborating piece of information that is, that this fbi informant gave. he you said the 1023 is the most corroborating piece of information you outbreaks, but it doesn't change those fundamental facts. so now it's not true. >> well, so okay. so the fbi told us that this source was cell 14 years. this source was a paid source by the fbi. well we were trying to get the 1023. they told us, oh, this could jeopardize national security promotion of a bribery scheme was false not at all. >> we're looking at the four facts i just gave you. those facts are true absolutely true
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>> focus and falls. >> like it begs the question why it wasn't given to us earlier. i probably reject the premise that like attempt points exclusively relied upon well for that doesn't mean demonstrated >> that last comment came from congressman andy biggs saying that the fbi informant, alexander smirnov, has now been indicted. so that is it's something to consider that these are just allegations here. anderson. but the question is, can they convince enough house republicans to move forward with articles of impeachment? at the moment, they have simply not done that yet. and this latest indictment only will undercut their efforts to impeach the president in the weeks ahead, anderson and as we mentioned, president biden's brother there are testified behind closed doors on capitol hill today as part of the oversight committees impeachment investigation, what did he say? >> well, he made very clear he was unequivocal according to his attorney, you just released a statement that joe biden had absolutely no involvement indirectly or directly? equally with his brother's business
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dealings at all. and it's contended that there were some questions that republicans had about loans that were given to joe biden. they're paid off by his brother, james biden. james biden testified behind closed doors today that those are simply loans that were given because he was underwater the time needed that kind of financial support from his brother, but he said there was no involvement with his business dealings and they attorney of james biden said that this is essentially a witch hunt, and then they got nothing out of james biden to connect this with joe biden, i did catch up with some republicans afterwards who told me that they had credibility questions about james biden's testimony. they did that give specifics though anderson, when i i asked them, are there any links to president biden from james biden that he revealed in this closed-door testimony they did not answer that question. >> anderson live on russia i appreciate it. i want to bring in cnn's jessica schneider and two people have experienced with confidential informants 1023 reports in russian disinformation, former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe and john miller, former fbi assistant director. so just to understand, senior some new
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reporting about this x fbi informant yeah, that's right. so anderson multiple sources, they're >> telling our evan perez and hannah rabinowitz that it was as far back as 2020 where the fbi had reason to believe that some of these allegations were false it's now before that, alexander smirnov really had been prized by the fbi. he worked with this particular handler for more than a decade. they talked daily and you know, most important anderson smirnoff had very important relationship some ships that could be abused to the fbi. he had relationships with corrupt foreign business officials, corrupt government officials, and crucially in the eyes of the fbi connections with foreign intelligence services a part of his value was that he did offer this potential window into those intelligence services. but even with those credentials the fbi was suspicious four years ago despite that though anderson, there's no indication that he was actually ever polygraphed, which is typically a standard way the fbi does assess sources. so tonight the questions do remain that if the fbi had concerns as far back this 2020, if they were unable
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in that time to corroborate smear nops, false claims that joe and hunter biden were paid $5 each in bribes if they took action to benefit ukrainian energy company burisma, if they knew that four years ago then why did it take until this past summer for the fbi to begin unraveling those alleged lies and eventually charged smear and off last week, that's going to be a big question for members of congress. >> particular does make sense you that this guy wasn't polygraphed in all the years he was working with the fbi, not just i mean, before not just from 2020 on when they started to have suspicions, but even before that it actually does anderson, it's not something that the fbi does to every source. it's not an normal part of the periodic re-evaluation of a source. it is done in some special cases when you have reason to believe that a source might be fabricating and you just cannot corroborate, you can't get past that that concern. you can sometimes use a polygraph is when one of many tools to get
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to the bottom of it, but it's not something that's done in every case. i think another thing that's being lost here is the fact that this source clearly had there was a shift in this sort of material that he was providing over some time. we're told that early on and is long relationship with the fbi provided, i guess, substantial assistance in criminal matters and had some credits to his to his record and it's in 2020 that he starts reporting on these contacts with russian intelligence officers and high level russian government folks >> if the if the bureau did not believe wasn't 100% sure of his reporting, particularly on the burisma matter in 2020. they wouldn't necessarily mountain entire investigation to get to the bottom of that reporting if they weren't taking any action on it to begin with the peeling back the onion on that reporting really only becomes essential when congress starts to demand a
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copy of the 1023, which the fbi resisted by saying the 1023 is raw reporting. it's been unverified. we don't know if this is true. but at that point, it's really the pressure by congress that breathes life into this reporting. and then you have to get to the bottom >> john, can you sort of break down how the fbi works with confidential informants and what, if anything, stands out to you about this this one? >> well, sure. the fbi recruits a confidential informant and that that informant gets an agent that's his handler and that aid it didn't may meet with them every day if they're in the middle of a case, but more often when it's a long-term informant, they'll meet with them once a month. that's when they'll get paid. there'll be debrief for whatever new information they have. but as as andrew was saying, there's also a source validation process once or twice a year. they have to go through the here's what happens if we catch you're lying. this is your deal. this is how it works but they can
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also be tested. polygraph is one way. in this particular case because the informants story, not only the story he told, but the idea that they would pay a $5 million bribe in 2017 when joe biden was on his way out and would have no power that they didn't mention that in the meetings until 2020. i mean, they're looking at this reporting and they're saying there's something wrong with it. you don't really they need to polygraph it and, you know, while you would be investigating the background of it, this really came down to and congress demanded that 1023 forum setting the precedent that you're going to start turning over informant information to people in the middle of a political squabble. and the message that sends to every high level in forming the fbi was resistant to turn this thing over. >> i mean, they were on the precipice of the director, chris wray being held in contempt of congress and it put the director and the bureau in a terribly awkward position. at
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the end of the day, they handed it over, but congress played this as read this form. these are the facts attend 23 is it's what we do, anderson. we go out, we take a notebook, we asked people what happened. but you have to check it out. it's raw data. and in this case, not only didn't it make sense, it didn't check out. >> according to jim jordan though it was the biggest thing and gun. but i mean, the real core of this story. and we shouldn't ms this is the turn it made from smoking gun of a $5 million bribe by an unsupported allegation to an informant who may have lied to this newest chapter, which is the important part, was he flipped by the russian intelligence services and sent with this information at the behest of vladimir putin to cast more dirt on joe biden, even with a story that didn't make sense. or is that just part of a story he made up for some other reason, but the
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timing of it certainly suggests that's when russia was very busy trying to influence us politics and just go with more you learning about the timeline of the information that came from this guy? >> yeah. so before the indictment was even released last week, it wasn't even publicly known that it was in fact, alexander smirnov behind these allegations. and as john miller and andrew mccabe i have talked about members of congress had been pressing the fbi to hand over this information from smear law last summer, and that did put the fbi in a bit of a bind here because it's the bureau did tell congress that the previous information that smeared off had relayed. it was credible, but that the information concerning the allegations against the bidens was really this raw but in uncorroborated intelligence. so again, because of that, those questions remain why the fbi let it go for years, and andrew prosecutors also said that smirnoff has been act in their words, quote, actively pedaling new lives that could impact us elections after meeting with russian spies late last year, i mean, that's stunning that this is still active
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>> it really is. and i think it helps to remind ourselves what the context is in which the government is made. those assertions. this is not in an affidavit supporting of a complaint or as part of an indictment. this as part of a motion to to try to make sure that he was denied bail, which of course was unsuccessful. and what the government is saying in that motion is, this is a person who cannot be trusted. you cannot believe what he is saying. they are presenting. the statements that he gave them in his post arrest interview where his for the first time he raised this issue of having received this story about the bidens from russian intelligence officers they're not warranting that information. there's simply saying now he's saying this, you can't believe anything. he says, he therefore should not be given bail andrew mccabe, john miller. thanks so much coming up next what we're learning about new action frozen biden is considering to tighten restrictions on
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presidential race. sources telling cnn that president biden is considering major new executive action that would make it harder for migrants to seek asylum if they crossed illegally. cnn's priscilla alvarez is at the white house for us. so what does the new executive action entail? >> well, anderson sources telling me that the white house is looking at an authority that already exists, an immigration law and gives the president power to decide in this context who was eligible for asylum. so the outcome here would essentially be limiting access to asylum for those migrants who crossed the border unlawfully. now, an administration official tells me that they are evaluating multiple options here and that no final decision has been made. the white house telling me in a statement, quote, no executive action, no matter how aggressive can deliver the significant policy reforms and additional resources congress can provide. and that republicans rejected. we continued to call on speaker johnson and house republicans to pass that's the bipartisan deal to secure the border. now what the white house is referring to there of course, is that senate compromise that would have included some of the most are the toughest measures
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on border security in recent memory. and it was during those negotiations that president biden himself said that he was opened to cause shutting down the border if given the authority, this appears to be an extension of that though the deal he tells remain unclear and i will note anderson that in 2018, former president donald trump tried to do this same thing using the same authority, but he was challenged in the courts. now, i'm told lawyers are reviewing this new executive action to see if they move forward with it, anticipating that it could very well also face challenges in court. >> so why is the white house decided just float this idea. why do they want this idea out there? >> well, of course this comes as that senate border deal was tanked by republicans, white house officials had been working on that with senate negotiators for months, and it included these extraordinary powers to the homeland security secretary to shut down the border if certain britain triggers were met. so now they're going back to the drawing board to see what, if anything can be done in the executive of course, all of that will fall short of what it
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would mean if it was done legislatively. but also anderson, this comes during an election year. this has been a political liability for president biden for years since he took office. and they know that it's going to continue to be going going into november with former president donald trump making this a key campaign theme. going into the year. and so they're trying to set themselves up for success here and flip the script on. republicans are priscilla stay with us on a break. seen as political commentator, former special adviser president obama van jones. so then the executive action, if it's actually implemented, it might certainly anger progressive democrats. what other options does biden have at a time when 79% of americans, according to recent cnn poll say the situation the border is a crisis and a bipartisan deal can't get a floor vote in congress i'll before they say something's got to be done, some >> republicans, if one person came across are undocumented, they'd say shut the whole border down, built a wall and
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never let let the door be back open for some people might be ten some people might be 100,000, 1 million, 5 million, 50 million at some point the numbers too big even for democrats. and now we're at a place where because congress won't act, republicans won't let congress act the number is too big, or people coming across the border, even for democrats. and so look, president is going to take some action reality is the courts might strike it down also to your point, he's floating these trial balloons, the kind of see what the reaction is. but if republicans are going to politicize the issue and then refuse to act on it. biden has to do something. >> it's inching facility >> because the republicans >> who have refused to act on it have said, well, there are executive actions the president could take. obviously this is one of them. how does it compare to what the trump white house tried to do before it was blocked by a federal court. i mean, is it exactly the same >> and that is certainly some of the pushback that the white house can anticipate if they move forward with this. but in 2018, former president donald trump issued a presidential
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proclamation in which he tried to invoke the same authority 40 known as to 12, to shut down asylum entirely on the u.s.-mexico border when it made its way through the courts. but the court said was essentially this conflict with asylum law. you can't do this because people are entitled to seek asylum at the us mexico border we don't know the details of exactly how this new executive action, if the white house does, it, would look like. but the key here and the white house pushed back because is that if there had been legislation that would have put this into a bill into law, then there wouldn't be any way for it to be legally challenged in court. so former president donald trump tried to do it he was stopped in court because of the law, the white house worked with senate negotiators to change the law, and republicans walked that back if it had been part of the law, then there wouldn't have been any sort of legal arguments. so that is the back-and-forth that's happening between the white house and house republicans who refused to take anything up if it comes anything short of what they themselves want to see that on the board? >> i mean, van the one of the
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infuriating things about this is that many of the people who will be claiming asylum are just on the face of it. not really eligible mean, there it's understandable why they're leaving their countries. they want a better life for their children. they want a better better income they're fleeing a lack of security in their neighborhoods. but it's not political or religious persecution, which is, or all the things. asylum is a very particular thing that you are claiming yes and that is the challenge that i think americans been facing. it's like somebody figured out some clever way to jump the turnstile at the subway and kind of get away with it. one person does that to people then pretty soon the whole slept subway is just full of people who are just two are basically exploiting a loophole that's what's happened with our asylum laws. we put those asylum laws in place proudly. after world war ii, when people were trying to flee hitler's butchery and couldn't get out of the country and couldn't get here. and so we put those in place
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for a good reason. but now there are people who are just using it and abusing its gotta be fixed biden was willing to cut a deal. the republicans would rather leave the border open for a political purpose than keep the country safe. biden's trying to do something and i hope you fix it up. >> and van >> jones, priscilla alvarez. thanks. next wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich has been in custody in russia now for nearly 11 months. now, authorities there of a another american and what we know about her and the allegations against her in a lab report from moscow next via headline or las vegas that's what i want to do. >> unlike anywhere else in >> vegas, the story of sin city sunday at ten on cnn
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33 years old. she came to russia, back to russia because he's only been a us citizen since 2021. she came back to russia earlier this year in early the january to see her family in the city of your katerina berg and she was arrested then and has subsequently been charged basically with treason, which is an incredibly serious center charge here, crime here. and could carry a sentence of up to 20 years now, the fsb, which is the old kgb, which is sort of holding her at the moment saying that since february 2022 she has proactively collected money in the interests of ukrainian organizations, which was subsequently used to buy arms and medicine and other equipment for the ukrainian army. in addition, while in i did states sheet repeated the took part in public rallies in support of the kyiv regime. those the words of the russian fsb, there's that figure of $51 and cents and some change that
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she apparently donated to a us charity that helped ukrainians during, during this conflict. anderson part the problem is that she is this joint u.s. russian citizens. so when she comes into russia on a russian passport, it means that her us passport doesn't count as far as the russian authorities are concerned. and so it's much harder, if not impossible well us diplomats to get consular access to her. and that's why we don't know exactly what her state is, what i conditioners, and how she's doing right now. >> alexey navalny's mom has filed a lawsuit over the quote, inaction of the investigative committee to release alexis body. what more do we know about that? well, i mean, this is a >> court hearing that's being held behind closed doors, but it comes out of a frustration on the part of the navalny family, in particular, ludmilla navalnaya, his mom, who's traveled nearly 2000 miles to the far north of russia to try
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and get our hands on his body, recover. it says you can have a funeral even made that emotional appeal a couple of days ago to president putin himself, to intervene and demanded that the body be returned to her. so as you can have that funeral and barium in a humane way in her words, but those appeals have so far fallen on deaf ears. we still don't really know when navalny's body is. and the authorities say it could be a couple of weeks now from now until they're ready to even look at the possibility of giving the body over for burial, not the janitor appreciate him shortly before word came. of this latest arrest. we also learned that a russian helicopter pilot who defected to ukraine had been murdered, shot dead multiple times in the spanish seaside village night. we know much more. and as soon as melissa bell reports his killing came as no surprise to russian state media as we speak with me, lured go areas. what you but because we see a pollution i will bone in you an eerie
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warning. just months before police cordoned off this crime scene a russian state media during this claiming lost october, that russian special forces were seeking to retaliate against helicopter pilots maxim kuzminov, who defected to ukraine last year the principal interested was because men off now discovered fatally shot in spain, ukrainian defense intelligence sources >> confirmed to cnn his body found in a parking garage. according to spanish authorities asked whether russia had any knowledge of the deaths. kremlin spokesman dmitry peskov said moscow had no information on the matter at all, despite russia's foreign intelligence chief speaking indirectly saying that caused me enough became a moral corpse
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the moment he'd planned his quote terrible crime. the crime in question, a daring operation loss september that saw him fly his helicopter across the russian border and into ukraine a decision caused me off, explained to journalists just after arriving in kyiv schedule >> if i had one question, why would my beloved homeland needs such a war? i went to church, i lit candles with one wish that it would end as soon as possible. i realized that this is evil, horror, and crime. any war is a crime. >> maxim kuzminov set the trip took six months to plan. then once out of russia, he used his voice to encourage more of his countrymen to do the same of course, if you commit what i've committed, he will not regret at all. you will be provided for with everything for the rest of your life. you will be offered jobs everywhere. everywhere you would want
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whatever you would want to do you will discover a world of colors for yourself >> that world of colors, however, cast in the kremlin's shadow with a schiff, they can i'm not sure we can the warnings on state television reminding dissidence that moscow's grip extends far beyond russia's borders >> anderson, there have been so many russian citizens that have died in mysterious circumstances. these last few years, maxim kuzminov nowhere near the first, there have been a businessman, the directors of russian energy giants like gazprom, lukoil. there have been politicians, journalists as well who've died in certain concerns ranging from their 14 hour flight of stairs to being defenestrated poison as well. and this inside russia, but also of course, outside from india to spain and france in the past. at one of the questions is why maximum
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kuzminov for better-protected now we spoken, interviewed a high profile dissident here in france last year who was only given police protection 24 hour police protection because french authorities had foiled and attempt on his life. it is simply too costly. the resources, too great for european intelligence services to monitor the russian citizens this 24/7. i think it's important to note as well, anderson, that the kremlin has denied any knowledge of what might have happened to maxim kuzminov, denying any knowledge and involvement in this killing. anderson also, bell, thanks very much. still had rfk junior targeting some of the democratic party's most loyal voters and supporters of president biden do not appear to be taking the kennedy factor lightly details on that next congress >> is the spot my office hi,
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hey my, wire ran hates america sunday at eight on cnn the super pac behind robert f. kennedy jr. is longshot bid for the presidency, launched new billboards across michigan today in an effort to try to distance his campaign from tim mellon, who's a republican megadonor who's given money to both the kennedy super pac and that of donald trump the ad shows their faces as well as that a president biden and says, let the best man, when tim, now their response to billboards like this one from the dnc labeling rfk junior is quote, powered by maga and trump new fec filings show mellon gave $5 million a piece last month to the super pac backing both kennedy and trump but as democrats are focusing
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more on rfk junior, he has his eyes set on one of their most reliable voting blocks. cnn's eva mckend has more >> robert f. kennedy juniors independent run for the white house is drawing new attention from national democrats i think both republicans and democrats he infrastructure and the leadership are of course going to be worried from queens food pantry to a co-working space in brooklyn. kennedy is on the campaign trail making a pitch to one of the most loyal constituencies of the democratic party black voters. it comes as president joe biden's allies at the democratic national police have ramped up an aggressive campaign to undercut kennedy's candidacy, signaling the threat he could pose to the president's reelection hopes just outside of kennedy campaign black history month event, a dnc billboard aims to link tennant to maga republicans >> there's a lot of black voters personnel, country who've been voting, who are
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taken for granted by the democratic party. >> what do you think that you can offer black voters that joe biden cannot? >> i've spent 40 years working for economic development, for cleaning up the environment for healthcare for black americans americans? i have a long long track record of making i prime. i priority. aaron freeman, who's family has owned brooklyn staple sugarhill supper club, has consistently supported democrats i'm laying until support mr. kennedy because his family has always been into the rights for the underprivileged >> the economy is kea motivator for freeman. he says his family almost lost their business during the pandemic. >> the economy, and the people in these neighborhoods, they need proof, they need substance, they need to be able to see it and feeling not just here it while early polling shows significant levels of
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interest in kennedy as an alternative to a 2020 rematch. it's difficult to know exactly how much of a threat kennedy poses to buy still, democrats do not appear to be taking the kennedy factor lightly earlier this month, the dmc filed a complaint with the fec accusing kennedy's campaign and a super pac supporting his presidential bid of illegal coordination not our complaint alleges that is federal law that they've chosen to ignore after a super pac back in kennedy's campaign spent $7 million on a super bowl ad that >> repurpose the spot from his uncle, john f. kennedy's 1960 presidential campaign, the dnc accused the independent candidate of being a trump stocking course, pointing to donations to the group received from republican megadonors, liked him melon the ad also drew criticism from members of kennedy's family on memory of my family and whose feelings are hurt by that. and i
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lived about investing >> is there water in this thing? >> bring your family to the financial future >> this is cnn. the world's news network. >> there's breaking news in the case of 22 year-old gabby petito, as you may remember, she was reported missing after 2021 trip with her fiance, brian laundrie authorities found her remains in wyoming. she'd been strangled to death. brian laundrie returned to his parents home, then disappeared. his body was eventually found. he died by suicide, leaving behind writings in which he admitted responsibility for petito's death. petito's parents then sued laundrie's
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parents, as well as the laundrie attorney over emotional distress and for withholding information, there was a mandatory mediation today and tonight we're the families have reached a settlement. randi kaye joins us it's with the latest. so what do we know randi >> anderson, i was in touch earlier today was steve bertolino. he's the lawyer for the laundrie family and he told me that they settled with gabby petito's parents also told me that the terms of that settlement will remain confidential. now, of course, this case was settled as both sides were preparing to go to trial, which was coming up in may. and as part of that trial, they recently released these courtroom depositions, which were quite disturbing. they had disturbing details about what was done. and more importantly, anderson, what wasn't done to find gabby petito? >> good morning >> is really nice and sunny today. in the summer of >> 2021 when gabby petito and her fiance, brian laundrie, were on a cross-country road trip and have an brian's
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father called his phone and said he sounded frantic. that's according to his father's court deposition, which was released last week along with depositions from laundrie's mother and gabby petito's parents. it's all part of an emotional distress lawsuit brought by petito's parents against the laundries and their attorney gabby, never go outside. >> christopher laundrie, >> bryan's father >> recalled a phone conversation with his son on august 20. the de has father says stuff hit the fan. he said his son was frantic and got very excited repeatedly telling his father gabby's gone. he said his son asked, can you help me and told him that he might need boyer roberta laundrie, brian's mother said in her deposition, she spoke with her son that same day and his voice was very upset, adding, i didn't want to push him, so we just said goodbye. when brian asked for a lawyer, his father said i asked him why he wouldn't tell me after that, christopher laundrie said he contacted the families
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lawyer. what exactly did the laundries think their son meant by the word gun? roberta laundrie says several possibilities ran through her mind, including that the couple had a fight or perhaps her son had hit petito and she was going to press charges when asked if she thought maybe her son had murdered petito roberta laundrie responded, it might have gone through my mind. i can't recall what i was thinking at the time laundrie's father said he never thought his son killed petito i had no idea what to think. he said the laundries were also asked repeatedly why they didn't press their son about what had happened to gabby, not over the phone, and not even in person after their son showed up back in florida on september 1, 2021, in petito's van without her they both explain that their lawyer had told them not to question their son about petito. i was told not to ask, and so i just kept brian close, kept him home and safe, and didn't talk to him about anything, and hoped for the best, roberta laundrie said, the distressing phone
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calls with their son took place three weeks before petito's means were found in wyoming's bridger teton national forest, the teton county coroner determined she died from strangulation and ruled it a homicide. in all those weeks that passed since the phone call with their son, the laundrie said they never contacted the petitos and ignored all the potatoes calls and text messages at the advice of their lawyer all of this despite knowing petito's parents were desperate to find her. >> i'm asking for help from the parents of brian and i'm asking for help of the family members and friends of the laundrie family as well in her deposition, brian's mother said, i was just concerned about my son at the time and that she figured maybe her parents would pick her up or could come get her more than a month after brian laundrie disappeared from his home, his body was found in a nearby swamp police say he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound alongside him, a notebook in which he admitted taking gabby
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petito's life, saying she'd fallen and was in extreme pain. he said he thought it was quote merciful even found this case for years for any i mean, how big surprises is settlement >> i think it's a pretty big surprise, anderson certainly the petito's have seemed pretty resistant to settling with the laundry family. in fact, as part of those depositions, they included a deposition from joseph petito, gabby petito's father, and he said in his deposition, i want to make them for meaning the laundries as much as they heard us. he also said, quote, there's no amount of money that i would settle for, not a dime. so clearly that sounds like he was very resistant to settling with the laundrie family, but certainly as we look ahead to trial, anderson, this was promising to be a very emotional trial likely a very expensive trial for both sides. so clearly, they both seem to think that this was best in this case, anderson. >> all right. randi kaye. thank you so much coming up as family and friends gather in texas
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