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fishing students are taught how to get out in case it ever happens to them. make sense. >> brilliant. are they taught how to assemble ikea furniture? because i feel like that is a life skill in sweden that would be that's our essential skill. boris, lead with jake tapper starts right now >> the widow of alexey navalny with a new message for russians, don't be silent. the lead starts right now powerful claims about navalny's wife accused it from navalny's wife accusing the kremlin of hiding her husband's body, alleging that he was poisoned and urging russians to take to the streets after his death cnn has, in russia will show you the aftermath as police are rounding up, hundreds of people mourning putin's fiercest predict, plus donald trump's latest wink and a nod to another authoritarian leader, hungary's viktor or ban, someone who trump praised on the campaign trail just last month
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>> he's a very great leader, very strong man. they sat a strong man running good catch plus the late night sky fifth, it has disgraced former congressman george santos coming after jimmy kimmel in court. >> yes. you heard that, right >> welcome to the lead. i'm kaitlan collins in for jake tapper today and we start with our worldly and an urgent promise from the widow of one vladimir putin's fiercest critics, the russian opposition leader alexey navalny, who died suddenly in a prison camp on friday. >> today, we >> heard from yulia navalnaya vowing to find out exactly who was responsible for what happened to her husband as she's also pledging to continue his fight to bring democracy russia >> yeah. >> i asked you to share your range rage, anger, and hatred with me towards those with daring enough to kill our future. and i address you with
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alexei's words, which i believe it is not ashamed to do. it's not a shame to do little but it's a shame not to do anything. it's a shame to make yourself intimidating >> that cb as a pool guides. >> the kremlin has said the investigation into navalny's death is underway, claiming that the results are currently, quote, unknown cnn's matthew chance is in moscow. matthew and have one spokesperson said that his body won't be returned to his family's still for two more weeks. what is the latest that you've heard about this investigation? >> yeah well it seems to be going very slowly and it's gonna be at least two more weeks according to navalny's spokesperson saying that that's what the mother of alexey navalny has been told. she's made an 82,000 mile journey to russia's far north inside the arctic circle to the town near where the penal colony he is located, where alexey navalny died on friday, and she's been trying to get access to the morgue there to try and recover the bodies so
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they can have a funeral. and lay their son lay her son to rest. that's not happened though. she's not even been allowed to see the body at this point. the authorities saying investigations around the way there's another postmortem. they say they want to carry out to try and really get to the bottom of what was it that caused this sudden death of russia's most prominent opposition leader, the kremlin for its part, is being pretty tight lipped. i mean, basically refusing to comment. and while that investigation patients underway, vladimir putin has not said the russian president is not set a single word about the death of his most vocal, fiercest critic either. and so there's, there's lots of suspicion abandoning the supporters of navalny believe that the kremlin is hiding his body in attempt to try and hide the real reason that he died, kaitlan. >> yeah, that's what we heard from yulia. and you also visited a memorial site,
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matthew for navalny today, what did you hear from people who are risking their safety and their security to go and show up and pay their respects yeah. >> i mean look, i mean, there are memorial sites that have popped up all over the country in towns and cities across russia where thousands of people have been going to pay their respects to lay flowers, to offer their condolences at the at these locations to see some of the people they're putting flowers there in moscow where i was earlier today. this is not the kind of public display of defiance and support for alexey navalny the kremlin likes the c and actually, over the past few days since the death was announced, there's been a crackdown on those mourners by the local authorities, by the police, hundreds of people both have been dragged through those snowy parks away and detained to face some of them. in some cases, charges for disobeying the police. and it's just one
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example of the risk people take in coming out to even stage this kind of protest in a country like russia, but it also shows that there is a depth of feeling there is a sympathy for alexey navalny and that has only been intensified by the announcement of his death >> yeah, absolutely. matthew chance in moscow. thank you. i want to bring in evelyn farkas, who served as the deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine, and eurasia. and it's great to have you here given what we just heard from matthew about this investigation. wishing that the russia is holding his body for at least two more weeks. i think the real question is whether we'll ever know the truth about how he died yeah. >> kaitlan, i think the only way we'll ever know the real truth is if vladimir putin and his oppressive regime disappears at some point in history and the history books are opened or the files are opened. but whether he died quickly or slowly, we know that it was at the hands of the kremlin, whether it was poisoning or something else. we
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know it was at the hands of the kremlin, so while that may be important to some people at the end of the day the reality is that vladimir putin was so afraid of, of alexei navalny that he felt he had to have him murdered yeah. >> we know that they poisoned him in 2020 that he was treated so terribly in this russian penal colony. you what stood out to me wouldn't hearing from his widow, yulia is just what a huge loss. this is obviously for the russian opposition movement and seeing her step into this and say that she's vowing to continue his cause, that he so passionately cared about. what did you make of her address today >> yeah. i mean, i think she's trying to hold onto the power of the symbol of alexei navalny by putting herself there in his place. i don't know whether she will be interested in are up to the job of actually running the opposition movement. there are questions about the russian exiles and
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the whole russian opposition movement writ large. they've always been very fractured. this might be an opportunity for them to work more cohesively together but what does that look like in the sense of the future of the russian opposition movement because he was one of the few who had returned. and obviously he was immediately arrested and imprisoned and had been there for three years and so many of the russian opposition leaders there in exile he did have that national appeal. so what does the future of this look like? because we are seeing people go out to his vigils and risk their own security to go out and pay their respects to him well, it's going to be trickier obviously, he was like nelson mandela. he was this powerful, powerful person and symbol of everything, every hope that russians who care about democracy had. there are other dissidents. let's not forget, in political prisoner, in prison still in russia, including latimer, carmen whereas there who was appalled there for john mccain. so they
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need to be released in our government needs to work to get them out but at the same time, i think it's going to be hard for the exile groups harder now without that powerful symbol, they'll have to figure out how they can join forces from the outside. there are still though signs, not just of the evidence that matt mathew just spoke about, but also the 200,000 or so people who signed onto an opposition politicians petition. and he was running on it an antiwar platform. he of course was removed no longer can run. but that's a sign that the russian people also are opposed to putin's policies well, i'm glad you brought up vladimir kara-murza because his wife is understandably shaken by what has happened to navalny. he is for those who don't know, a russian journalists and opposition leader, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison for speaking out against russia's war in ukraine and his wife said today till show you media that she's worried it he'll face the same fate as navalny and i just
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wonder how the west should handle this because we've seen president putin or president biden talk about the repercussions president putin would face if navalny did die on his watch. how should the west respond >> well, a couple of things in the specific case of vladimir kara-murza, there's been a push underway, including my institute and others who have been trying to bill browder notably, who've been trying to get vladimir putin designated under something called the levinson law that would just mean that the american envoy, special envoy roger carstens, that he can intervene on behalf of vladimir kara-murza. there's a big basis for that, but the biggest one is that he's a green card holder and his his wife and his children, his three children live here on the us for the others. i also think that the us government should, first of all, clearly punish somehow, even if it's just symbolic, the russian government for what they've done to alexei navalny and then
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work to try to get the others released. and we probably need to do it with our european and other allies and partners. there may be some kind of prisoner swap that can be negotiated will continue to watch it. obviously, evelyn farkas, great to have your expertise here today. thank you for joining. and of course, it's important to look at the big picture here is navalny's death is coming as russia has just made a major military gain and ukraine, they wrestling control of a key city of dq, the, a city that ukrainian forces have been trying to defend for a decade now, cnn's nick paton walsh is in ukraine as his forces are struggling to repel russian attacks as us aid is essentially at a complete standstill. a warning that some of the images you will see in this report are quite disturbing a sight not seen for awhile. a russian flag going up over ukraine but ukraine's withdrawal, he announced on saturday from abdivka means more than the loss of a town bitterly fought over since russia first invaded a decade ago it is perhaps the first
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sign a delay in usaid spells death and loss here. >> you do want to go, but sunday these images released there last offensive rushing into support on the fire from a resurgent russia, who president zelenskyy says sent seven russian troops to die for every dead cranium. this is what it was like in the basement defending down to the last treating the injured in the darkness, yet aware their options, their ammo, their chances were ebbing shelling, endless it's spoiled my drink. this soldier complaints a command to clear monday. why this >> happened when there's a whole though there's a whole group which shows the whole, the level point. >> we didn't have enough people back a little bit crippling russia's ministry of defense released images of their final onslaught on that coke plant. and what they claimed with a
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casualties inflicted on ukrainians as they tried to flee in the dark other images and reports emerged monday in ukraine of the fate of their wounded. one i feel called home and his last moments allegations that in horrifying rubble here, both the wounded were left behind by ukraine, but also shot dead in cold blood by russian forces. russian drone images of their spoils released, again, displaying their odd pride over the rubble zelenskyy may have to get used to more of this putting on a brave face as he visited troops in the likely next russian target kupiansk, just outside kharkiv, your horrible wildly, although there are different political sentiments in the world, he said different flashes of problems that distract attention. we still altogether do out most to have the world with us, with ukraine. words no longer enough, not an avdiivka and certainly not in the west where $60 billion in missing
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aid now means putin can slowly edge further and further west now, for all the outrage as dysfunctionality of republican led congress, not putting that $60 billion of aid through this tell off for the next two weeks won't even consider it for a fortnight. and that is a potentially very perilous two weeks here in ukraine. not only you heard there in kupiansk could be under pressure. they've lost avdiivka in the south in zaporizhzhia, a key village taken in the southern counter offensive in the summer that is now looking vulnerable to a russian push, as are two other locations in the east as well. russia on its front foot pushing forward, clearly sensing western weakness here, and that ukraine is running out of men and ammunition of very okay time here in ukraine. >> katelyn, yeah. >> as zelenskyy said, dictators don't go on vacation. nick paton walsh, thank you for that report. and those actions that nic mentioned there by house republicans, president biden said today that they are shocking that he's never seen
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it's all we do with local offices throughout the country and has help, you get the compensation. you deserve 800 to eight to 44, 44 we're back with the politics lead in the wake of alexey navalny's death, president biden is chastising house >> republicans for blocking 61 billion in aid for ukraine making a big mistake >> where the walking >> away from the spread of rucker, the way the walking away from nato way the walking away shocking wow, i've never seen you like when the president was asked if he thinks that navalny's death will get house republicans who oppose more aid to ukraine to shift their stance he said he's hopeful, but he's not counting on it. house speaker mike johnson has signaled that the latest bill, it will not be brought to the house floor. i want to bring in our political
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panel. we have jonah goldberg of bakari sellers here >> jonah, can we just >> talk about this idea that is began to rear its ugly head since friday, which i first saw with lee zeldin, former congressman, posting about it, but it's this idea from the far right that basically what happened to navalny is what is happening to donald trump p her in the united states. and you just wrote something about this is such a false moral equivalents. and it condemning that was once central to american conservatism >> yeah. i'm not even sure it's the far-right. i think it just sort of a dumb hackish partisan, right? >> i mean, it's newt gingrich is one of the guys doing this. lee zeldin, there's not some crazy far-right right-winger. he's just a partisan hack right winger look, my old boss, weymouth buckley. he famously, hey, like he had the most famous line about this when someone said to him, look, there's no difference between the united states in the soviet
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union. we both have these huge military complexes. >> and he said it is. look, if you refer to one guy who pushes old ladies in front of buses and another guy who pushes old ladies out of the way of oncoming buses. >> both. and you describe them both as the sorts of men who push old ladies around. you're missing something really important. >> the >> idea that we are anything like putin's russia is, i mean, forget that it's a slander against joe biden, which i don't really care about. it's a slander against the united states of america. this is not a corrupt, evil, despotic, criminal fitocracy. and for republicans to be talking this way, is outrageous and liz cheney, because we're hearing from her on this. she just posted truly seconds ago, but she's talking about how donald trump is acknowledged the death of navalny, but, but not to condemn it, or to say anything about putin and xi noted that and said, at the same time this is happening. trump is claiming putin style tyrannical immunity and his us supreme court briefs. she said it seems like trump thinks he needs putin help with something and can't risk angering him.
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what do you make of that >> well, first of all, i think that over the past couple of years we've been in this time warp where you have many democrats are just, it's not even democrats, but just common sense americans just all agreeing with liz cheney. she's right in this fact that donald trump not being able to condemn what happened in russia and not being able to condemn. and i love jonah's term of degas and this death is just it's not anything that surprises us i think seeing the fraying around the republican party. and it's losing its true conservative values and its true moral compass. the further rod and decay of the republican party that it has become trump's party is what startling us most. i think liz cheney's actually getting to a point which many of us remember in the 2016 election, whether or not she want to go back there and unearth those bones or not. you did see a great deal of russian interference in that election. whether or not you talk about the farms of ms that
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targeted african-american male voters, in particular or what have you and i think she's alluding to the fact that donald trump is quoting that help again but i instead of beating those, those drums again to where my friends on the far-right turn to death years i would just say you need to reclaim your party because right now you're party's marching behind the likes of vladimir putin is no longer the party of ronald reagan and jonah, you you took issue with how i described it as far right. i think you do make a good point about how it is becoming more of just it's not the people who were on the furthest right in the furthest extremes. and the republican party, they're making this comparison. and liz cheney was on state of the union with jake yesterday and she was asked about obviously, someone who is grown up in the republican party is emblematic of it, including with her father. >> this >> is what she said about this new strain of the gop you've now got a putin wing of the republican party. i believe the
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issue this election cycle is making sure that putin wing of the republican party does not take over the west wing of the white house when you think about donald trump, for example, pledging retribution what vladimir putin did to navalny is what retribution looks like in a country where the leader is not subject to the rule of law >> do you agree with her? >> yeah i'm going i have a little for the for some reason, i'm off at republicans who have this sort of 19 hard crazy left attitude of anti-americanism that has now taken over big trunks to the right for. those same reasons. i'm not wearing liz cheney is on this. i don't think that donald trump would be an american putin and park parkas fired. putin has a much better work ethic. >> then donald trump does. donald trump is really lazy and it takes work to be an effective dictator that said
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you can come way short of being vladimir putin and still be really bad right? the idea that donald trump wouldn't test how far he could go, wouldn't test the goodwill of the people who work for him of the courts, of the justice system seems preposterous to me. of course he would. >> and >> that's bad enough whether he goes full, putin is sort of immaterial to me because i hold america a much higher standard than that means 5% of being like putin would be bad enough. >> bakari, you're laughing at that. do you want to respond to excite? well, i got to ask you about something else, but i just want to hear what you what your take is on what jonah just said. >> i mean, jonas jonas righties bettman thousand a day. nobody goes full qut and i guess is the term that we will coin today on the show. but but he's right and i think there is an inherent danger with donald trump, but there's also a dangerous surrounding the echo
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chamber that is the republican party because you have media within same right-wing area, which is espousing many of these same views. >> yeah, bakari, the other thing that happened over the weekend navalny's death happened on friday. we were watching the aftermath of that trump not weighing in. the one thing he did do over the weekend after that, judge, in new york ordered him to pay this $550 million penalty that includes interest he was hawking these $400 gold sneakers called the never surrender high tops that apparently i believe sold out. if what i read an axios is correct, but i just wonder what you make of this given obviously he's going to get a cut of this obviously he's facing intense legal expenses. and this is something that we've seen him do time and time again, whether it's the trading cards now, gold sneakers >> he's just i mean, these air impeachments just simply are not going to sell. i mean, that's first and second. i
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don't know if you recall, but they gave the 44th president of the united states of america so much hill because he used the selfie stick or because he wore a brown suit. i mean, people literally said that was beneath the office in here, you have a former president of the united states running for president again. who's hawking these? >> they're >> actually don't look that bad. but whose hawking knees, the bright gold shoes for $400 >> i mean, look, i >> might rock them they weren't like air january 6 is like they don't look that but no, this is literally beneath the office and i think most americans are become desensitized. we use the whole president of the united states to a higher standard. now you can look at your child and be like, i don't want you to be like donald trump, be something else air january 6 is might be the quote of the day, bakari jonah. thank you both for being here, everyone go read jonah's column. it is great. also this programming note because tomorrow here on the lead, jake is going to interview nikki
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biden campaign. let's ask none other than the former communications director for vice president harris jamal simmons. jamal great to have you here. i wonder what you make of the efforts reported in this story on what she's doing, given we have seen republicans try to make harris the focus of the 2024 campaign amid those questions about biden's age i think it won't be effective. listen, when i went to work for now about a year-and-a-half ago, almost a little more than uruguay guys will figure it out. anyway, i'm going to go work for her. it's hard to remember what evan could work for. it was clear that she was a unique kind of vice president in recent history of vice presidents, right? we're used to the al gore, dick cheney, mike pence, even joe biden kind of format, which was a vice president who was a washington dc expert who was bringing in a president who really didn't know dc. it was a dc outsider. >> that's not the >> relationship that the vice president, kamala harris have with joe biden. joe biden was the dcn insider so she had a
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little bit more of that outside flavor. it was always going to be better for her to go out to the country to gather information to bring the administration's message to people in the country, but to gather information and then bring that back to the west wing and inform the thinking of the west wing by the travels that's what we tried to do when i was there. i think she's done it even more we saw that particularly around the efforts around abortion rights, where she was doing that every week. so this is just taking on abortion rights model that you did in 2022. >> and >> the expanding that to more areas, bringing back more information. >> well, isaac dovere reports in this that several of her confidence have said that there has been there kind of wary in her orbit of the approach from the biden campaign, from people like general malley, dylan, obviously a pivotal figure in the west wing now going to work on the campaign about using harris enough. do you feel that? that she is being utilized in the right way by the biden campaign
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>> i do thinks he is now. now what's interesting is very different a lot of the things she's doing today, she was doing a year-and-a-half or two years ago. what's different now though, is the west wing and the campaign or really highlighting what she's doing much war. so people are seeing a lot more also. remember, so many viewers and voters get their information from social media. so you see the vice president talking to people like priyanka chopra or kikee palmer, or some of these folks were a little bit more more social media savvy. they've got these big followings. she's using that as a way to community indicate directly with voters, but she's also doing meetings in the vice president's residence and around the country to get as much information as possible and take that back to the west way. >> yeah. she's been talking to a lot of lawmakers as part of this, and she's actually gotten some tough feedback from those in michigan. if people like congresswoman debbie dingell pushing her to get the white house to take more seriously the criticism that they are getting over their stance and how they've been handling the
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israel hamas war, and how it's resonating with arab americans here. and congresswoman rashida tlaib over the weekend said this about the upcoming primary. this is what she urged voters to do in michigan it is awesome or into create a voting bloc, something that is a bullhorn to say, enough is enough. we don't want to country that supports warm or the bombs and destruction if you want us to be louder than come here and vote on committed >> what do you make of that >> it's a mixed bag. i was on the phone with a couple of folks can be tried in the last day or two, which is where i'm from one person who i was surprised that he thought about voting uncommitted because he really was concerned about what's happening in gaza but then i also talked to someone i found out up getting going to say this here for the first time. i think that congresswoman tlaib is going to get a primary challenge. i'm hearing very strong rumblings and it may be from a gentleman from detroit, i can say a name yet, but i do think the make it a primary challenge almost because of how stridently
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she's been doing this. so people are all over the map is dividing democratic communities. and i think the president is going to have to go in hard and really knit people back together well, that's interesting. so there will see if that comes to fruition. jamal simmons great to have your inside expertise on this. thanks for joining us >> thank you >> up next, qatar is responding to israel, the country that is what at the center of the hostage release negotiations ever since november when we first saw that release now criticizing the prime minister benjamin netanyahu >> the story of simcity sunday at ten on cnn >> from the everglades to the dry tortugas and all points in between. the keys offered thousands of miles of a1 code mangrove estuaries, pristine
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qatar's foreign ministry today called out that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, over comments that he made suggesting that qatar is not applied hi enough pressure on hamas. cnn's international diplomatic editor, nic robertson is covering the story from tel-aviv. nick, i just wonder what you make of this very public split as these netanyahu and these qatar, if it qatari officials are going back and forth while they're still hostages being held, that there is still at the center of this. and what to you about the status of those talks >> yeah, it's not a good sign is at right now, prime minister netanyahu is trying to put every bit of pressure he can on hamas and he was at a conference here with the presidents of some major american jewish organizations here in tel aviv, in jerusalem. and he told them, look, the only way to get the hostages bag is for you and everyone else to put more pressure on the katara is. and this is what the katara is. we're responding to the foreign ministry spokesman saying this this the
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israeli prime minister it's recent statement calling on qatar to pressure hamas to release the hostages are nothing nothing but a new attempt to stall and prolong this war for reasons that have become obvious to everyone. if that doesn't sound like the language of frustration i don't know what is so yes, while qatar is supposed to be in the middle negotiating, it's really beginning to sound like the prime minister thinks that there the problem, and that's never going to get you where you want to go with a mediator by essentially publicly trying to blame them? >> plea with hamas on this. and what stood out is that this is all coming as we also heard from benny gantz, he's a leading member of the war cabinet in israel, and he threw down this gauntlet, essentially by saying that off all the hostages aren't released by march 10 to end of ramadan, that that fighting that everyone has been and so concerned about will continue
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in rafah, which of course, just as reminder is where over 1 million palestinians have fled to, to, to get out of the way of the bombardments happening elsewhere in gaza. >> yeah. again, this is really interesting and i think as part of that pressure that the government is trying to put on hamas. now, you guys have got a deadline to kind of give, give in to our demands, have massive saying we want a permanent ceasefire, israelis saying no will give you a temporary pause. so that's the difference. that's the pressure point is instructed tim to because it really appears as if the israeli government isn't ready actually to send the troops into rafah that the idf, a tied down in hanunis at the moment. they've been there fighting for more than, more than about two months in han units and they were expecting to be freed up and ready to move on sooner than they are now, why do i say that? because just just a week or so ago, the prime minister was saying, will get rafah done before ramadan. now they're saying we'll start it when ramadan begins, tenth
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or 11th of march so i don't think the idf is actually quite ready as well. >> yeah. i said that's the beginning of it. obviously a critical date that everyone's looking to less than a month away from now nic robertson in tel aviv. thank you for that reporting. >> up next, a >> compelling look at the surge in violence and our nation's capital teenagers that are often behind these crimes >> when you're a small businessowner, you to do list can be a log that's why progressive makes it easy to see if with a commercial auto quote online. so you can take on all your other two dues already. did see if you could see that progress of commercial.com view that
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while katie porter fights for you. for senate - democrat katie porter. i'm katie porter and i approve this message. reduce sugar >> i'm arlette saenz at the white house and this is cnn the nation's capital is grappling with a serious spike in crime. and as cnn's gabe cohen reports, the numbers show, on average, many of those arrested for robbery and carjacking or not even 18 years old? >> fear has been growing in the nation's capital. the result of a violent crime surge and an alarming number of kids are caught up in it. what do they say when it comes to carjacking or robbery. what are could say in about it? >> they really know thing not because only thing they don't get in a car, no to impacted due to our people >> they think it's not a big deal. >> yeah, the thing is not a big
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deal. >> 15 year-old eddie, not his real name, is one of the kids that mentors in dc are trying to keep off the streets and out of trouble. >> there's a lot that kids there well, dc the pi just seeing what's out of it, but it's a whole different side of it >> violent crime in dc rose 39% last year. carjackings nearly doubled the average age of those arrested 15 years old i mean, eddin, his friends at a courthouse where they just watched their 17 year-old friend gets sentence for attempted robbery. >> jalen, that again yeah. >> marcellus queen brings them here to see the consequences of crime. he's been working with them as a mentor since another friend of theirs was killed he's trying to keep things from getting worse. what they call crashing out >> i've been in prison with men and they own a ten year since at the ten years on 30 years and they just listed they can restart. so i tried to make sure they don't have to get to that point where they had to restock. >> you're trying to intervene
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before one of them ends up in a courtroom. >> eddie >> tells me he was shot last year when he was 14. he's not in school. another pervasive problem in dc. do you think there's a crisis right now with kids in dc, death is definitely a crisis. >> i'd never seen a nine-year-old and an eight-year-old? pull on rob. i never see 12-year-olds do the things that they had last fall a 13-year-old boy was killed while police say he was trying to carjack an off-duty federal security officer. he had nine prior charges for carjacking and robbery mohamed of delivery driver, says he won't work in dc anymore after a group tried to carjack him neighbors fought them off. police arrested five kids as young as 13 team >> sometimes i cannot asleep after that i cannot see >> d.c.'s mayor declared a juvenile crime emergency, venting frustrations about the same children committing crimes again and again.
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>> people after me sometimes when i say a child may be better off in a secure environment, d.c.'s council has advanced a new crime bill that could allow judges to hold kids in jail until trial when they're accused of >> certain serious crimes. >> thank the laws are too lenient. >> curtis brothers and i walked through the dc neighborhood where he opened fire at police as a young man. and how long were you in prison for that? >> now? he's a violence interrupter on the same streets, tasked with maintaining a safe passage for students outside this middle school because of the van because we want to make it at the kids go to school and from school, say, when they talk about robberies and murders, they talk about it, i it's a game, went on i'm sad. >> why do you come to a middle school? >> because that's the most vulnerable age. once they get to high school >> this is prior we sit in on a conflict resolution class for kids as young as five-years-old
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the hope is to break the cycle >> what brought you down that path? >> that what happened to lack of gaddis >> down the hall, we meet two boys, 16.17 we agree to call them dionne and steve, both previously incarcerated for gun possession and robbery. court mandated to work with this program, mentoring other kids on conflict resolution. >> a lot of people crashed. i will go there all right, guys, you got mentors and got nobody to talk to is just everything is getting more fast-paced, least road one file for ec you've did this, used all the car you could program mcar like missile, whatever the case may be, as more influence domain, like i'm hungry my mother and i don't know for me, so let me go do this. >> there are among the many that say dc can't trust arrest and prosecute its way out of this crisis. a city still experiencing hyper gentrification and stark pockets of poverty worsened by the recent weight of extreme
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inflation on struggling families and social media. that's added a toxic layer, too many vulnerable kids lives if they intervene way before it said appoint a crash now than it would never happen every single case you see hundred days missing school no food and household. while they have to take sunday. so major to see you. okay. we're failing or failing the kids in the most saddest thing about it is they're willing to throw our kids away instead of fix our families >> and city leaders here are facing a lot of criticism for a drop in arrest and prosecutions as well as what some see as lenient laws giving kids a slap on the risk for serious offenses. but kaitlan, the issues clearly run deeper 60% of highschoolers here are chronically absent from school. and i've spoken with sources who just don't feel like the right steps are being taken to intervene early for some of the most at-risk kids kaitlan. yeah. >> it's becoming a real issue
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and take the hearing life 30-day risk-free challenge. >> king charles wednesday, it's on cnn okay, this one could be the pop lead or the law and justice lead, but we set it on politics. baelyn, because it involves former, now expelled congressman george santos. maybe you saw these segments of jimmy kimmel show when he was submitting anonymous request for santos to record greetings on cameo, not revealing that they were fake greetings or if they would be broadcast >> george, please congratulate my mom, brenda, and the successful cloning of her beloved schnauzer aid off. we'll set those said you brenda wanted to keep
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gradually, you want successfully cloning your beloved schnauzer, eat all >> well now santos is suing jimmy kibble, abc in the walt disney company, claiming that he deceived him into creating the videos for the skit in this lawsuit, santos santos says that kibble misrepresented the motives for the sole purpose of capitalizing and ridiculing. sandra says, quote, gregarious personality. that's in his lawsuit. he wants at least $2 million in damages, which he could potentially need to keep up with his legal bills since he is not drawing his congressional salary anymore and instead, making money from those videos on cameo will follow that. also a reminder here about what's next on the lead tomorrow is jake is going to interview republican presidential candidate nikki haley. that's on the lead tomorrow starting at 04:00 eastern in the meantime, we can join me in just a few hours here tonight on the source. i'll be joined by democratic senator joe manchin, his first interview on cnn after announcing that he will not run