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he voted for trump twice and supported republicans for years, including far right conservatives. adam schiff, the leading democrat, defended democracy against trump and the insurrectionists. he helped build affordable housing, lower drug costs, and bring good jobs back home. the choice is clear. i'm adam schiff, and i approve this message. website for health and wellness products, unleash your potential with forced back, you're on iowa laura coates live next on cnn closed captioning bronchi by meso book.com >> we've offered a free book about missile filial motto for ten years, call 1808724901, are going to meso book.com well, here we are everyone deep in the 2024 campaign, but the thing that may change everything, 2020. tonight on laura coates live so any one of
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the hearings today could actually be he a break glass in case of emergency kind of moment. he get immunity. the georgia election subversion case, the mar-a-lago classified documents case. they could all change the course of this election. and donald trump's strategy is right there in his team's argument to supreme court today on the case of immunity, he's claiming that months long criminal trial will make it harder for him to campaign translation, delay, delay, delay, and the fight over trump's immunity, or frankly, lack thereof, has already prompted district judge tanya chutkin to postpone a trial date that was previously set for march 4 coincidentally or perhaps not the day before super tuesday. and then there's the mar-a-lago classified documents case. you remember this one? then we haven't heard about it as much lately, but take a complex
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case, add some defendants multiple at that and classified records that are part of the evidence. and what do you get when you mix it all together? that's right. you get delayed is interestingly, while the former president was in attendance for today's closed door hearing, there was no press conference, no outburst. let's not forget the georgia election subversion case in the hearing, the judge saying, today that district attorney fani willis could and i emphasize could be disqualified if there is evidence that she financially benefited from a personal relationship with her lead prosecutor on the case i think it's clear that this qualification can occur if evidence is produced demonstrating an actual conflict with the appearance of one >> hearing is set for thursday and the da may be required to take the stand. you're talking about all this national security attorney bradley moss, and norm eisen. remember he was house judiciary special counsel and then president trump's
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first impeachment trial. also, former white house ethics czar. i love both of your smiles is at night. that was that was lovely to that camera. i loved it all the 11:00. it was good. mr. close-up was here. let me ask you first hear about this norm because trump, as you know, is filed an appeal with the supreme court, not surprisingly about the the absolute immunity issue. he is making the argument that the criminal trial would hurt his ability to campaign. said, captain obvious. what do you make of that? >> the response of judge tanya chutkin in the trial court to that argument was exactly right. that every defendant who comes before her has life circumstances, but justice is blind in this for reason. it cannot take account of his political calendar. so i think the supreme court is going to be a little put off by his
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overt politicking. he didn't lead with that. that's at the very end of his introduction of his arguments i don't think that argument is going to work. what i do think may work with them is, hey, we've never decided if a president is absolutely immune to order assassination of political opponents. do we need to speak to that? and jack smith, after all, ask them to do it. just that was the thing they did not take it up immediately. they said it in ways a whole lot about it. but you now you haven't in front of the court again, they can't possibly be surprised, but i do wonder on the idea of yes, they've never had to deal with it before. and you can't take someone's politics into account. but the novelty of all of this should they almost certainly yes, they should if for no other reason, then there should be a resolution to this. this is the supreme court is the ultimate court of the land. they should set down what this rule is that going forward, we don't have to
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play this game with endless appeals. if there is another president who does something like what donald trump did, not now will they take it up? this is gonna be interesting. this is a motion for stay. this isn't a petition for cert. it's a motion for staying >> translate translate the motion to stay for me to the audience watches. sorry, sorry. motion for state being. he wants to halt the mandate from the dc circuit that was going to send the case back to judge chutkan and if the motion for stay, he had demonstrate there is substantial likelihood he's going to prevail on the merits and he's got to get five of these justices to agree to it. it's basically a preview of do i have any chance on the merits at the end with this court? >> wyhe jacqueline. well, it's more likely than not that they will take it up, but it is a resolution for them to say, judge chutkan got it right. the dc circuit took her holding it, narrowed it to only apply to former presidents that's enough. and slam the door. they did that when pennsylvania's
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vote was attacked by texas at his bass in 2020, they slammed the door, they didn't take the case when judge cannon, who will talk about interfered with the criminal investigation of the mar-a-lago document? once he went to the supreme court? no crt when a trump v. thompson, the january 6 committee, he tried to get the supreme court to interfere with their investigation cert denied the greater likelihood is they'll take it, but there's a significant chance that they'll say enough is enough. this is insane. you would hope we're stopping matters here. >> well, before we go down to florida, let's stop off in georgia for a second. like i think a little bit of a detour. i think that's 95 a little bit further down right. before we get there today. hey, you have the judge in this case and of course we know there is the drama and the backstory about whether there was a personal issue, whether it was somehow problematic for the underlying case. you had the judge and a hearing today that they're
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going to proceed with the hearing by the way to examine the relationship between fani willis and the lead prosecutors. and we had to say the state has admitted a relationship existed. and so what remains to be proven as the existence and extent of any financial benefit? again, if they're if they're even was one. so because i think it's possible that the facts alleged by the defendant could result in disqualification, i think an evidentiary hearing must occur to establish the record on those core allegations. >> so what was meant by financial benefit because a lot of people look at this and they might say to themselves, okay, if they had some sort of romantic relationship, how does that go to the underlying facts the case or how does it impact the case? maybe it's a bad look he was married. >> i >> don't know if that's the scenario, but why is the financial benefit in issue? >> because that's what would be bringing up in terms of recusal. that was what is relevant under the georgia code and norm ahead, some his colleagues had a great piece on
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this weeks ago when this first came up about where the georgia rules in the georgia case law has it. but what is ultimately going to undercut this argument by the criminal defendants and was probably going to salvage this for fani willis is that under that existing case law, simply getting a salary for nathan wade isn't gonna be enough to implicate that financial interests. he's not getting a cut. he's not getting bonuses based off of a particular conviction yeah it's it's a standard salary. yes, he's using it to take a vacation is a legal adult is allowed to do that. just taking someone who apparently was in a relationship with on that vacation, they say they were splitting costs all entirely proper instill ethical. it's a bad look for fani willis that this occurred, but i don't see disqualification ultimately coming to play in the i think the judge response to check the boxes to make sure. >> but if they were to be disqualified it's not a matter of finding willis saying okay, fine, i can't be a part of that it implicates the entire team,
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right? that >> is georgia law. if she is removed from the case by the judge, the whole office is removed and that means this case will not go to trial in 2024. it may never go to trial. that happened. there was a conflict with respect to one defendant. is over a year ago and no lawyer has been appointed to prosecute that case from all of the da of georgia. so that's a very momentous decision for the judge, laura, as you know, i favor the evidentiary hearing. i think as part of clearing the air, the law is against the defendants here because there is no what brad was describing is a contingent fee that's what georgia requires. that he gets us success fee if he convict somebody that's not what's going to happen here, but we're not just in the court of law we're in the court of public opinion. this is happening in
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the real-world. this is a judge is going to have to run for reelection this year as a smart judge. so well, he's creating the bare legal basis to have this hearing to try to clear the air. i think there's going to need to be some kind of accountability, some consequences for this very foolish relationship. >> we know who's not running for reelection. and article three, judge, with lifetime tenure down in florida with overseeing the mar-a-lago case, judge, aileen cannon and there was a question in the courts about whether one could publish the witness lists or make it public. people who might be a part of this trial. >> she's >> potentially going to do so. you are a national security attorney. you can you can tell us i'm sorry. you have worked fees. anyone else? >> but the idea >> that intimidation could possibly result. i mean, i didn't call ready for my trials and hand over a witness list until we were actually going to trial. >> so here's what occurred with this. the trump team and
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walt nauta, they got this does various discovery as part of the mar-a-lago case, they had sought to file a motion to compel additional discovery, but there's a protective order in place in this case, so everything had to be filed under seal, then they as well as various transparency media organizations asked to lift the seal on some parts of those documents, particularly what they had gotten in discovery for purposes of transparency, normally, everything you file in court is filed on a public docket. this was put under seal her decision from a couple of days ago. and waking the national screen information, she sided with jack smith i came to particular information identity. she sided with him, but she said you may have legitimate arguments when it comes to witness intimidation and threats to witnesses, but you're affidavits are garbage. >> they're not >> telling me what i need on a factual context to warrant this legal conclusion. i haven't seen what he actually submitted did you haven't seen it? none of us have seen it's all under seal, but which her analysis
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became was give me better affidavits. show me why i should actually rule in your government favor on this for why can't they get that information to israeli reason? they can no reason they can't. the government gets a little arrogance sometimes when it comes to this, they get a little confident in their ability to just go the bare minimum with their affidavits. i deal with that all the time and judges, a lot of time will go along with it. judge cannon, in her discretion, has chosen not to whether that was appropriate. it's hard to say because we haven't seen the affidavits, but that's what happened. well, we will >> see i don't know on behalf of somebody from he was a government attorney. how dare >> you know? >> norm thank you so much. donald trump starting a fire storm with his claims that nato members aren't paying their bills and his threats to let russia do quote, whatever the hell they want, unquote. but what's the real truth behind this? we'll do a fact-check next >> united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday night
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this, i wanted to talk to you. i wanted to figure out whether he was right about this because he has been saying for years, frankly, that these other nato countries are delinquent, that they're not paying their bills, that they actually oh, the united states money is he right about any of that none of that is right, laura, this is a very real issue that former president trump has insisted for years on talking about inaccurately. so let me take people through this. so for about two decades, nato had a non-binding guideline, non-bonding guideline that said that all members should spend 2% of their own phone gross domestic product on defense. so two key facts there. one, it's on defense, it's not on the united states. you don't have to give nato money, you don't have to give the us money. its defense spending. number two, again, this is a non-binding guideline. if you look at the language that existed until it got a little firmer last year, it was pretty soft. it said that if you're not at the 2% guideline, you should aim to hit it within a decade. and so
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it did not create any delinquency. there's no debt, there is no arrears, there's there's nothing like donald trump says, now, none of that is to say that this is not a real issue. now for decades, american presidents tried to get european allies and canada often to spend more on fans or bush tried obama tried, and trump claimed he had great success. he had some success, but most members are still not hitting it. if you look at official nato data, estimates from 2023, it's still 11 of ben 30 nato members were at or above 2%. so still a long way to go. so here's claims that spending by nato members is going down so he took office and reverse that. it's just not accurate. >> it's not accurate. you you've heard him say that a lot. it was like a rocket ship downwards. i love rocket ships go downwards, so they shouldn't felt the rocket ship downward and tight took office. that's not true. if you look at again, at that official nato data, it increased each of the two years before he took office, 2015 up by 1.6%, 20 mei 16, up by 3%. so why did it go up? if not donald trump? well, vladimir putin, if you
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remember, 2014 putin, russia invaded annex. do kranz, crimea region. a lot of european allies were like, okay, i guess, you know, we gotta get serious about spending. and so they started spending before trump took office. now spending did increase by more after trunk trump took office, nato side secretary general did credit him in part for the spike. but if you talk to experts, they'll tell you that much of that spike was still the vladimir putin effect from that crimea invasion. >> and that's interesting to think about what was the actual proximate cause and beyond i've trump or other areas in the region. >> but i was really >> intrigued by the fact that there was applause to what he had to say. as you mentioned cynde, even with the fact check, notwithstanding, this is a real issue for people, why do you think it degenerate that applies >> i think donald trump crowds often applaud anything that donald trump says, i shouldn't speculate too much. i'm a fact check reporter. >> i will >> note though, laura, that one thing that gets applauses, trump's claims that these rally is that we're there for them, we're there for european allies. they wouldn't be there for us. i think we should note that the one and only time that
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nato article five collective defense provision was invoked was in 2001, after the us was attacked on in 11, the rest of nato alliance stood with the united states. and so this claim that we're with them, they're not with us. well, that time they were with us, the united states. >> this is really important. thank you so much for breaking that. that was really worried and wondering about whether there was accuracy or not. and some as a mother always says the truth just sounds right daniel dale tells you what it is. i'm appreciate it. thank you so much. so the question is, how are republicans feeling about former president donald trump's comments on nato? well, two senate republicans are saying, don't take trump's so literally >> donald trump was president and he didn't pull us out a nato, in fact american troops were stationed throughout europe as they are today. they were then as well. but he's telling a story and frankly, look, donald trump is not a member of the council of foreign relations he doesn't talk like a traditional politician. >> i just say crews people not to overreact. i don't a long time ago, not to overreact what president trump says or what he
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tweets i think we should take everything he says seriously, but not literally that's simply the president telling nato countries they need to step up and play their part. it's that simple. i think everybody is overreact i wonder joining me now, congressman dan goldman, a democrat from new york, joins us here in studio. thank you for being here. first of all, to that point about the overreaction aspect of it people were really stunned, frankly, and a long line of being stunned about his comments. whoever this figurative person or real person or not, what did you make of that statement by the former president united states? >> well, first of all, it's a continuation of his view towards vladimir putin that we saw in 2016 when he asked russia to get hillary clinton's emails and he was found by robert muller and the special counsel's report to have welcomed russian interference, to have used it for his campaign, then you fast forward 2018 and he chooses vladimir putin over our
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intelligence agencies to when he says on, of course, i didn't interfere. and it is just his constant sucking up to vladimir putin. and so when republicans say, oh, it's just trump being trump it's like, yes, that's the problem. is that this is a danger to democracy. this is a danger to both our country here domestically, but also to the world order abroad. so the excuse that, oh, it's just trumping, trump is not really an excuse because that is what the true danger of donald trump, who has declared his desire to be a dictator. >> well, you know, when you think about if trump is being trumped, there are a number of legal issues that trump is facing that have had that same philosophy of you can't take it seriously what he is sad or what he is doing and that these the political hit jobs targeting him. and most recently the most recent argument he has now been making is a double standard when it comes to the mar-a-lago
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classified documents compared to what president biden is not being charged with. there's been a lot of discussion about that transcript being released to the public, or at least to your the committee. in particular, from special counsel her. >> do you want to see >> that transcript? do you want to hear for special counsel her about that report? >> well i'll get to that exact because you bring up a really good point, which is you hear a lot of these political defenses being used by donald trump in uk pork, and trying to use them into court, whether it's e, jean carroll or any of the other cases, they don't work in court they almost uniformly fail because they aren't real defenses and they're not supported by the facts. so when he claims there's a double standard and you can look in the her report and you see laid out in great detail what how cooperative joe biden was, how he didn't know about the
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documents, how he wanted to respect the independence of the department of justice and cooperated fully and then you look at donald trump and he obstructed justice. he concealed there's documents for what purpose? we don't know, but no good purpose since they knew they weren't his. and this goes all the way back to the muller report when he was found to have committed ten acts of obstruction, and he refused to sit for an interview and was found to have lied in his written answers so you don't have to go very far to look at the difference between the two. but yes, i would like to see that transcript because from my discussions with joe biden and others that i've spoken to, his knowledge and understanding is benefits all of us so much his age comes with wisdom and experience and especially on the issue of, of israel and the middle east. and ukraine, the way he was able to rally all of our allies
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together to support ukraine. the way he has managed a really complicated geopolitical situation in the middle east where his firm understanding from decades of being being in this foreign policy realm is incredibly valuable and his leadership has been essential. you don't see it so much, but it is there behind the scenes. >> well, someone argue that's a problem if you're not seeing it as much out in front. and of course he's been criticized for what's going on and his handling of his relationship with israel as compared to what's going on in gaza. that's been appointment of concern for people. it's not the issue of age, it's not the issue of acuity, it's the issue of policy distinctions as well, which i'm sure he would like to discuss more than his age and going on. but there's also this huge election in new york. i'm sure you've been hearing about it involving the former former colleague, your former congressman, george santos. this would make a huge difference for democrats if you were able to secure that seat, how do you think it's going to turn out? >> well, i think tom suozzi, who was a three-term
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congressman from that district as a democrat to moderate a bipartisan legislator who gets stuff done going up against a complete neophyte rookie who has not is unable to enunciate what her positions are on abortion, on assault weapons, and seems to just be a rubber stamp for donald trump and mike johnson and the maga the movement, which is very dangerous for a district that is not a maga district. and so when a national abortion ban comes on the floor and she has just catered donald trump and opposed this border security bill that bipartisan bill, because donald trump doesn't want it. whereas tom suozzi has made it very clear he supported prince bipartisan legislation that will address the problems. >> she's does >> doesn't seem to have her own views of anything that mean anything, and she'll just follow along when you add in in this district with george
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santos some real shady financial disclosures. it's bewildering to me that anyone who just voted for george santos are just at george santos as their elected representative would vote for anyone with shady financial disclosures like the republican candidate has. it's gonna be snowy tomorrow, so it's going to take some energy, but i think that are motivated and we'll get out to the polls. >> you got the minnesotan and me is laughing at the fact you guys can turn out for snell, but that's fine. i'll leave it there for a second. right. i i know we have to go, but i just got to ask you that. former president has filed the appeal with the supreme court about the issue of absolute immunity. this is an extraordinarily important, i cannot overstate enough this idea of the supreme court or any court deciding whether or not a president has absolute immunity or not. when you look at what is it stayed given your background and how you have dealt with the former president before in the entire process impeachment and beyond what are the consequences here if the supreme court does not take up this case?
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>> i think if there's report doesn't take up this case, that's a win for democracy. because then it goes to the appeals court opinion, which really convincingly and persuasively explained why a president cannot have absolute immunity. and indeed because that would mean that the president is above the law and the most basic foundation of our system of government, our rule of law is that no one is above the law. and the opinion and the appeals court was very persuasive unanimous opinion. so if the supreme court doesn't take it up, then that's a victory. if they do which i expect they will, because it's such a significant novel issue. i still cannot imagine that this supreme court, even with three trump justices could ever bring itself to say that a president is completely immune from any crimes that he may commit. just because he claims they are official acts, which as the
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district court or as the appeals court is, you know, all too well, really debunked because he could order seal team six to kill someone. and that's technically an official act. but obviously that would also be a crime. >> we'll see what this court decides to do and you're right. the idea of the appointments wang very heavily on everyone's mind particularly donald trump. thank you for joining us. thank you. >> dan goldman. and be sure to tune in tomorrow starting at 08:00 p.m. eastern for cnn special coverage of the special election, extra special in new york to replace george santos. thank you >> super bowl drawing the biggest get this. the biggest tv audience since the moon landing. yeah, you heard that, right? since the moon landing, everyone and political figures across the board look to capitalize from president biden leaning into the dark, brandon meme, to trump's pleas for taylor swift's loyalty >> next
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don't be ungrateful writing in part, joe biden didn't do anything for taylor and never will. there's no way she could endorse crooked joe biden, and be disloyal to the man whom made her so much money. >> who would that be >> and a new super bowl ad for longshot independent candidate, robert f. kennedy jr. stars and family tension for invoking the late president john f. kennedy's 1960 campaign do you want on board? president who threw me do you want for president who's seasoned through and through >> well, rfk junior has since apologized to his family for that ad, joining me now, republican strategist rina shah. and so you didn't liberal commentator ashley allison served as the national coalitions director for the biden-harris 2020 it campaign. okay i want to talk about
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azure, but we won't right now. that's fine with that. we'll talk about it later on. it's fine. but let's talk about the fact that ashley biden is now embracing sort of a tongue and cheek, dark brandon wright, he's he is leaning into it the question is, is it a productive and good strategy or is it cringe to you? >> okay >> overall, i think dark brandon had some highlights pre last night. last night, if the tiktok video would have just stayed where it was, it, they would have nailed it. >> the problem was they then took it over to twitter or x now and tried to make it live a longer life and it fell flat. and this is the trick about social media, because you have to have things in context and at the same time when joe biden posted the dark brandon thing, the same the the bombing and gaza was happening and rafah and so there was this. we know that joe biden wasn't talking
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about. he was controlling and this is what was happening. but the context, it missed the mark and so something that could have been so great landed flat for a significant part of the audience. but i am glad he is on tiktok because a lot of voters are, they're getting their news there and he needs to meet young people there and other voters as well. that's a great point about where he is frankly, because from able watch, they may be like, well, there's the nuance of when you're supposed to post and are you on tiktok or are you want x or instagram and this is appealing to younger voters in particular, who are using these different mediums and platforms in ways that we've never seen before and never had the opportunity to do so so before we were talking about appealing to younger voters though, is this the play for him right now? >> i mean, it has to be the play who put him in the white house, gen z, it can't be said enough. and i think looking at his presence on tiktok, i'm a little bit like mr. president, come on. wasn't it just two short years ago that you ban tiktok from most bedroom government devices due to security concerns. so i mean, make that make sense. your staffers are suddenly like super bowl sunday. we're doing
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this. it's clearly not the president on tiktok doing his own tiktok's. he's not dancing. he's laid to the game. it feels like he missed the mark. i'm over the memes. >> it's just there played out for me, but i think him on social media is no surprise because what else is he going to do to get the youth vote to understand grandpa still with them? i mean, look, i'm critical of his age because we've got to be he's the oldest ever american president. and the average retirement age you guys, 61 to 67 across these united states. >> but she'd stepped right now. >> well, that's that's not the question about whether or not he should be on tiktok if you're running a campaign, you need to go every single place you can meet voters and tiktok as a place that you can meet voters. >> but it's also very anti-american. it's rife with security concerns. >> and the >> only candidate taking it seriously as nikki haley when she talks about it, it is the fact that china is controlling so many things in our society, and we don't talk about them
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fairly and openly enough. and then you have joe biden being like, everything's fine, dudes. i banned it two years ago, but i'm on it. >> that's not what he's saying. >> i think being on it he is. i know thank that you cannot i mean, if that's the case, didn't get off of twitter because twitter is run by elon musk, who is highly problematic >> verse amendment question. >> i don't care. i mean, i'm not going to need that. we'd no, i'm not. it's not it's about having platforms, holding platforms accountable regardless of what can i let me finish. holding? platforms accountable regardless of who owns them, whether that's chinese, whether they're even let me finish. >> let me owned by elon. not making sense here. i'm going i want to let me stop you. so anyone who comes to my extended home, i want to have a chance to hear from both of you. so as the audience, so i've heard you want to hear you again, rina, let me hear. you had to say i thank you. >> so tiktok has its problems. twitter has its problems instagram has its problems.
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facebook has its problems. but guess what? it's consistent across all four of those voters. and so if you were trying to reach voters, then you need to go where they are. if joe biden doesn't go, were young voters are what do you say? oh, he's too old, he's two out of touch. if he does, then what do you say? oh, it's a problem. so you can't win. joe biden actually probably maybe he's trying to get your vote. maybe you're going to be was for i don't know. but he is saying to people, i understand young you brahm tiktok. i understand odor. the odor audiences on facebook. i'm gonna go i'm the present my case. and if you don't like it, don't vote for me, but i'm not going to shut up because you don't want me to be on a platform. >> well, i have to ask both of you and i want to hear for you on this point as well. why does donald trump think that taylor swift? can you as his successor success to him >> i mean, is there is there i'm just i keep going through and wanting to figure out what it is that he that she's owed he owes him her wealth. and here's what he had to say. by the way. here's entire post for context. he said he signed and was responsible for the
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music monetization act for taylor swift and all other musical artists, joe biden didn't do anything for taylor, never well, there's no way she could endorse for good. joe biden the worst and most corrupt president he goes on and talk about and be as well to the man who made her so much money besides that, he didn't say, i like her boyfriend, travis, even though he may be liberal and probably can't stand me. so there's clarity. no, great. >> i don't hear it either. what's your last comment? go ahead. >> i mean, look, taylor swift is not a national security concern to either of these candidates, like tiktok is i'll just leave it on that bit, but i will say taylor swift is a woman who should be admired and a lot of republicans take credit issue with our why, because she's open about the fact that she didn't want her home state senator making it to where she did. she didn't read issue with marsha blackburn writes so it started kind of in her being this person that was open about her own views, concerned about abortion and what it meant to the american woman. and she is getting people registered in out there and into the process but we also forget that a lot of the
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criticism that trump comes with is rooted in misogyny. and we're not acknowledging facts and we don't look at the fact that at the end of the era's tour last i think the last show by then i got the figure right here, 5.7 billion boost to the us. well, i love that. i love that figure so much and we are very complicated answer. donald trump is a narcissist and so that's why he thinks that he makes everything about him. i agree. anything about taylor swift go taylor go swifties go beyond sake. you go. go. everybody. but donald trump is a narcissist. >> yeah. >> i'm just going to find the extra thing because now rena ashley, thank you so much. i told you i want to talk about azure. so matt well, there was also a lot of more lot more news to get to because we also saw this horrific notion then a frightening shooting at a mega church in houston, that pastor joel osteen says could have been a lot worse. what police found on the shooter's gun will tell you next.
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popular houston mega church with an >> ar 15 and open fire. police say the shooter was armed with an ar 15 that had palestine, us palestine sticker on it she arrived with a seven-year-old boy, her son, who is now in critical condition. according to investigators, marino had a criminal history dating back years, including an assault and illegal possession of a weapon, as well as a history of mental health challenges during me now former homeland security and intelligence in dc, donell harvin, to know when you hear for this, it's just so tragic that little boy and thinking about what could have happened that day as well we don't know a motive yet, according to houston police. but there are several factors at play here. how do you piece together what may have been the motive? >> it's tough and i know law enforcement is doing that right now. i think i don't want to sound trite. it's irrelevant for some folks, right and the reason why is because she may be a symbol for those folks who are radicalized the palestine and the rifle we've seen that would other active shooters we
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saw that in christ church in new zealand. we saw that in the buffalo oh, shooter with anti-semites somatic and anti-black writings. and so that in of itself is symbolic irrespective of what her motive is. and it is important to find out. she may be held up as a symbol of hate for other folks. we do know that anti-semitism is up almost 400%. law enforcement indicated that they found some anti-semitic writings and so it is concerning. >> they have highlighted that aspect of it. does that give you an any indication of how they are investigating this matter? >> they'll probably all over the place with this. i mean, how do you how do you investigate someone that brings her seven-year-old child into a shootout? i mean, let's just think about it. there's a child and life-support right now it's tragic. >> where do you begin >> and so they're piecing together a lot of stuff. i've done forensic for many years something that we know in the business is everything you learned in the first 24, 48 hours is kind of misleading. it could be wrong we're going to
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have to wait. we're going to have to wait for at least a couple of days, so people start coming again. they pc's things. but i'll clearly my heart's with a seven-year-old. and for once again, for some individuals out there, i'm sure who radicalized and in the abyss of hate, there already upholding her as a symbol. >> we're seeing, yet again, a place that ought to be safe. now, a scene of a shooting, you had a tree of life synagogue. you had mother emanuel church, sutherland springs. i live in texas. of course. you also have now what's happened at this mega church in houston? i mean, these are softer targets these days. that's startling. >> yeah. for for >> years i worked in this very city to work with soft targets, particularly houses of worship and schools, simply to get them prepared for something terrible like this. >> unbelievable. >> dinelle. thank you so much for always sounding the alarm on these issues and keeping us informed that el harvin thank
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