with a football player. in 2008 "you belong with me." whether she'll make it in time from a concert in tokyo to the super bowl in vegas has generated acres of copy, info graphics, even an assurance from the japanese embassy. is it only the 49ers quarterback who just doesn't care? >> obviously our defense going against pat mahomes and their great offense, so that's how we're looking at it. we're not trying to get wrapped up in us versus taylor swift or anything like that. >> do you have a favorite taylor swift song? >> i don't. >> reporter: perhaps brook purdy doth protest too much. now more than 100 million people will watch sundaych it's worth remembering right at the center of all this razz amutaz and ulbu loo a couple of young kids.

i'm just there to support travis. i did it. i said travis for the first time in this entire report. >> can i say for the record once again i love a nick watts story any night. this was especially fantastic. thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. tonight on 360, the white house clean out from a presidential prez conference intend today rebut allegations of mental decline which some say gave precevidence of it. also tonight breaking news in the mar-a-lago documents case, and new allegations of witness intimidation. and later what new video of the atag on police outside a migrant shelter shows and how it plays into the case against the man charged in it. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with the white house doing damage control on the damage from last night emphasis damage control. and donald trump tentatively for now capitalizing on it. specifically on president biden's response to special

council robert herr clearing him of classified documents but describing him as a, quote, well-meaning elderly man with poor memory. a press conference in which he called the egyptian leader, and the former president mentioned it but did not harp on it. >> they tried to spin the disaster into oh, wasn't trump -- trump was peanuts by comparison. that was 50 years. and he did a lot of it when he was at a very young age. he was mentally a little better than he is right now. >> to be fair as we'll show you in a moment the former president is also known for his mental lapses including about which leader goes with which country. first, though, president biden's three fold cleanup effort. the first part focused on the cleanup front today from the white house press briefing room. >> one, when the clatsified documents were found, it was

self-reported. two, he took unprecedented action to get the special counsel what he needed. three, he didn't exert executive privilege over any contents of the report. the special counsel interviewed 150 witnesses. he saw and obtained 7 million of documents, spent more than $3 million taxpayer dollars explore every theory he could. what was the result? he reached the inevitable conclusion based on the facts and the evidence that there was no case here. >> foe that's one point ex10 chting the positive legal findings. he also handled point two observations about president biden's mental acuity had no place in the report. then she talked about what president biden was doing the day before the deposition during which the herr report documented

several memory lapses. >> october 7th, israel experienced a horrific attack. and i will tell you we got the call, the president and myself, in the hours after that occurred. it was an intense moment for the commander in chief of the united states of america. and i was in almost every meeting with the president in the hours and days that followed. countless hours with the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, the heads of our intelligence community, and the president was in front and on top of it all. so the way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more

wrong on the facts. and clearly politically motivated. >> now, whether that's true or not last night's press conference did not help especially how it reopened the president to attacks on his age including in a limited way tonight from of all people another elderly man who also has trouble with dates and places and leaders of countries. >> i was down there and i watch our police and our firemen down at 7-eleven, down at the world trade center right after he came down. just think we would be in world war 2 very quickly if we're going to be relying on this man. you've really put a big investment in our country. we appreciate it very much, tim apple. by the way, they never report the crowd on january 6th. you know, nikki haley -- nikki haley, do you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything, deleted and destroyed all of it -- all of it because of lots of things. nikki haley is in charge of

security. we offered her 10,000 people -- soldiers, national guard, whatever they want. they turned it down. there's a man viktor orban. he's probably like one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world, and he's the leader of -- right, he's the leader of turkey. >> cnn's arlette saenz starts us off tonight from the white house. what is the mood inside the white house tonight? >> reporter: anderson, the white house is frankly just in damage control mode. aides spent the day really escalating their efforts to try to discredit special counsel robert herr's report. you heard it there from the highest level, vice president kamala harris who charged this was a politically motivated statement that he was making as he brought into question some of the concerns about president biden's mental acuity. we know president biden himself has fumed over this report. he did that publicly over 24 hours ago. we're told behind the scenes

privately he was even more explicit, telling specifically when it came to the fact herr brought up his son beau biden and the fact president biden couldn't remember when he had passed away, biden telling a group of democratic lawmakers in private, quote, how would i effing forget that. so it really highlights the frustration the president is feeling at this moment as questions have been raised about his mental acuity. what we have seened from the white house is they have really hoped this report from the special counsel, that the top line coming out of it would be the president was not facing any criminal charges. but those words from the special counsel describing biden as a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory has simply thrust the concerns about the president's age and memory into the spotlight. but today the white house was trying to argue that voters should pay attention to what the conclusion was made when it came to the criminality of the case and the president's willingness to cooperate.

take a listen. >> how concerned is the president and the team here that the, quote, gratuitous comments are going to damage him, damage public perception of him? >> i think the public is smart. and i think that they can see what's going on. i think that they see a president who fully cooperated. i think they see a president who did the right thing and made sure everything got back. i think they see this was a long investigation that ended without a case to be made. >> so that is something that the white house and his allies are expected to stress in the coming days and weeks. but it is, of course, worth noting voters have expressed serious concerns about the president's age and ability to serve. there's polling that reflects that, a very recent polling that shows 3 in 4 voters had concerns about the president's mental and physical abilities to serve in a second term. those are questions the president will continue to face especially as this 2024 campaign season heats up and as the issues about his age and memory

remain front and center for the time being. >> arlette saenz, thank you very much. i want to go back to kristenholes in harrisburg, pennsylvania. we played some of it a minute ago. what more did he have to say about president biden? >> reporter: donald trump what he always do, which is seek to blur the lines. in this case it was about the report and essentially saying because the case had not been brought against him, donald trump, it was a two-tiered justice system. saying he, donald trump, had cooperated far more than biden, something we obviously know not to be true. one thing we didn't hear were attacks on biden's age while seemingly republicans, democrats, even the president himself have highlighted this portion of robert herr's report talking about how he's an elderly man with a poor memory. donald trump hasn't brought that up almost at all. now, this is fine line he has to walk. he is 77 to biden's 81. in addition to that he has many

older supporters as well as many older donors. and i am told in the past that senior advisers say he doesn't want to touch on biden's age particularly because of that. instead they want to separate this idea that biden is not mentally fit and even trump has said it's not related to his age. but it is quite notable when you're hearing so many people even the president himself addressing these comments that trump himself has not particularly when you know that trump is one to consistently lob insults at biden and at all of his political foes. instead we are seeing that come from his campaign. we're seeing it come from his allies. all of them seizing on the words in herr's report. but trump himself still not really touching it, anderson. >> what did he talk about? >> well, look, it was a speech for the nra, and it was tailored completely to that. donald trump has kind of now started to tailor his speeches based on who he's talking to.

he's never going to have a presidential pivot, but he is going to try to folks s on certain groups. so most of this entire speech was about guns. it was about the second amendment, about bashing the media, making sure no one was going to take away anyone's guns here. and really a big focus on if he was re-elected to the white house how he would seek to protect the second amendment. >> kristen holmes, thanks very much. now breaking news in the former president's own classified documents case. jack smith in new court filings documenting numerous threats against witnesses, judges, and prosecutors. joining us with late details is cnn's evan perez. what do we know about the nature of these threats? >> anderson, the special counsel is saying these witnesses need to be protected, their names, their identities need to be protected because there have been a number of threats from the beginning of this case. everyone from the judge herself, judge cannon, the judge who

approved the search warrant, the fbi agents who conducted a search of mar-a-lago, everyone has received threats according to the special counsel's office. and they also cite that one prospective witness who could be used in this trial was threatened on social media and that that is now under investigation by the u.s. attorney's office down there in florida. that's the big concern you're hearing from the special counsel. the trump team has been pushing back on this. they say that there is no reason to keep the identities of these witnesses secret, that this should be made public. but, again, the special council emphasizes since the beginning of this case pretty much everybody has been receiving threats including people who are associated with some of the codefendants, people associated with walt nauta and the other -- the other witnesses, the other codefendants. that they have been receiving threats simply because they

provided information to the fbi. >> and what's jack smith asking exactly to have done? >> well, he's asking for all of this to be conducted, to be sealed. and, you know, this has been a fight that's been happening, anderson, since january. this has been going on behind the scenes. and all of it in secret because the judge has been hearing from donald trump's legal team this does not need to be held secret. one of the things we saw -- you know, that we've been able to glean certainly from the court filings is that we know some of the important witnesses that they have in mind. one of them is a department of energy lawyer who wrote a memo describing why donald trump's security clearance was canceled after he left the presidency. that person is also somebody who the justice department says the identity needs to be protected because of the persistent threats that exist around this case. >> evan perez, appreciate it. i want to get perspective now

from conservative lawyer george conway, serves on the board of visitors for the federalist society. what's your concern about this harassment in the mar-a-lago documents case? is there something else the judge should be doing? >> obviously this is a situation where anything involving donald trump you run the risk of witness intimidation. remember the e. jean carroll case, which was a civil case not some kind of a federal racketeering criminal case. and the judge felt compelled to have an anonymous jury, and that's just something never seen even in most criminal cases with violent offenders. and so that's why it is very, very disturbing this judge does not appear at least in the eyes of the special counsel taking into account the witnesses that they could be intimidated, could be harmed. because we've seen donald trump in the past stir up anger and stir up people to do things that they shouldn't do that want --

in an effort to help him. so i do share the concerns people are expressing about what the judge is doing here. i might add that this is not the first unusual or bizarre thing that the judge in florida, judge cannon, has done. i mean she was reversed by the u.s. court of appeals in the 11th circuit in absolute stunning and brutal fashion twice. once for trying to stop the justice department's investigation with a stay and another time by appointing a special master when she had no authority to do so, trying to control the government's investigation. it's not common for courts of appeals to get rid of district judges and to reassign them from cases, but when a judge makes continual errors and is not in one direction and errors are extreme, it's possible that maybe if she doesn't turn herself around here, the special

counsel can take this issue up to the court of appeals. and maybe the court of appeals can get this case in front of a better judge. >> you think she could actually be removed from the case? >> yeah, i've seen it -- i don't know. i've heard in the 11th circuit there's kind of a three strikes rule. i've seen it happened. i clerked on the new york court of appeals in new york and i've seen it happen when i clerked there and i've seen it happen from time to time. it's an unusual thing, but this is an unusual case. and the egregiousness of the errors she has made in the past certainly weighs in favor of strongly considering that. >> what's your reaction the former president saying earlier president biden's handling of classified documents was way worse than his and the doj is selectively prosecuting him? >> well, i mean, it's just another -- >> the sigh. >> the sigh. it's just another example of the pathological lie donald trump has become famous for.

the answers are -- donald trump took these documents and when he he was asked for them back multiple times he refused to give them back. he had his lawyers lie to the people seeking documents. he then tried to move them around, and he tried to destroy the videotapes that would show he had moved the documents around to hide them from the fbi. the fbi had to ultimately execute a search warrant. and this is all in contrast to what president biden did was he notified the government, he gave the documents back. he didn't try to engage in litigation, delaying tactics to block the government from getting information. he cooperated with the government, and that shows you the difference here. donald trump engaged -- had donald trump just returned the documents when it was first pointed out we think you have some documents and just said, here, come to mar-a-lago and turn them all up, we wouldn't be

talking about all this right now. we would not have -- he would not be facing dozens of counts in the southern district of florida. >> i'm wondering what your take is on the language and special counsel and the ez for's age and memory. you heard vice president kamala harris saying it was basically political on the part of the prosecutor. >> well, i -- i understand why president biden is offended and i understand why the white house is trying to do damage control. but i have to say i think -- i mean, the democrats are particularly good at just freaking out at a moment's notice. and i think the press is also -- with no offense to you. the press gets on kind of a pack hunt and there's this hysteria that's happened over the last couple of days. i don't think that what i saw in that report was particularly disturbing. i mean i -- certainly i care about the mental condition of presidents and their ability to

understand things, but i remember ronald reagan used to say that about him, and there was the 1984 debate where he kind of got lost on highway 1 at the end of the debate and people started questioning his ability. i don't see any of that here in the public domain that he's unable to carry out his duties. and i would add that when you're writing a report -- i don't like all this -- these attacks on mr. herr. they may be valid, but i don't like to presume that a prosecutor is acting in bad faith. because i was never a prosecutor and i was never a criminal defense lawyer, but i used to write reports for clients as a result of internal corporate investigations. and when you reach a conclusion and you -- you reach a conclusion probably because of two or three principle reasons, but there's a tendency among us lawyers to add the other 50 reasons just in case, you know,

basically to bolster our conclusion, to make clear to everybody we did a lot of work. and also we don't want to be faulted if somebody said, well, why -- you asked a lot of questions about that, why didn't you write that out? it could very well be he was being a nerdy lawyer inserting all that stuff. maybe he should not have done it. maybe he should have phrased it differently. but i find it hard to second guess that. in any event the notion that donald -- i mean that joe biden is getting trashed on for forgetting a few things whatever they are -- you showed that clip of donald trump. you could do a 5-hour -- you could do a weekend special on all the clips of donald trump saying absurd and embarrassing and inaccurate things. i once did a twitter feed -- twitter thread of like 25 or 30 things that he said -- he got wrong like kansas city being in kansas instead of missouri. and on top of that even if

donald trump were perfectly -- were the stable genius that he says he was and had a perfect memory and forever forgot a single thing, the man is a basket case anyway because, you know, he has -- he has two major personality disorders. if you look at the dsm-5, the diagnostic and statistic manual for disorders and go to nar cystic personality disorder he checks every box and that's what makes him unfit not that he makes verbal slips. coming up next three white house veterans how this white house is handling the herr report and the larger questions about the president's age. plus john miller on this new footage released here in new york on a violent police confrontation drawing national attention in the border debate.

we talked before the break about what went into special counsel robert hur's decision to clear president biden's handling of classified documents and put the president's cognitive state into his record. and now the effect it may have on the presidential race. our three guests have all served in democratic white houses. all three are cnn political commentators. so paul, earlier today i heard

you say, quote, i'm a biden supporter and slept like a baby last night. i woke up every two hours and wet the bed. this is terrible for democrats and anybody with a functioning brain knows that. for the record my kids don't wake every two hours. they just pee in their diaper. but anyway, what concerns you the most? >> that -- this feeds a pre-existing narrative, right? and every politician has one, right? with president obama they worried he was too elite. with president bush they worried he was too dumb. with president clinton, i can't really recall. this goes right to that. so what do you do? i think you can't unring a bell, but you sound an alarm. you've got to lean into it. i'm old, by the way, we're both older me and mr. trump. the question is who's wiser, and who's a threat to all the things that you care about, and then go through it. trump is a threat to your social security, your med air, health care, child care, god knows he is to your abortion rights and

our democracy. in other words, get out in front of it, lean into it and change the subject and put the other guy on trial. i think that's the way to handle these things. >> kate, that didn't seem the strategy last night. clearly the president was personally offended, was angry about what was in that report and expressed that. do you think that that was effective? >> well, first i'd note all three of the presidents paul just mentioned, one, re-election so there's that. so i think what joe biden needed to do last was to actually come out and show a little anger. i know there's been discussion about was he too hot, did he seem like he was too much on a hair trigger, but i actually think coming out -- first of all, talking about his son beau and those personal terms, and then pushing back on the press narrative and saying here's what i'm doing as president. he gave a long answer what he's doing in gaza. i know everybody in the press wants to focus on he had a slip of the tongue and said mexico instead of egypt, but he showed

he was in control. i actually think for him to come out last night and take it on directly was a good thing. where i do agree with paul i do think the campaign, the biden campaign now has to move the narrative to fertile ground, right? this election is age going to be a factor? is it going to be a part of the narrative, it is. president biden has said that himself many times. there are going to be an enormous number of other factors in this election including who's going to fight for your right to have an abortion? who's going to make sure your vote counts? who believes we're going have a free and fair dem augeracy in this country? in and donald trump you've got someone facing 91 felony indictment counts and can't get through the day without telling a lie. there's a good contrast here for president biden and the biden campaign to make. >> you've been saying for a while the best thing for president biden to do this election cycle is stay hidden.

there's a lot of folks who say he needs to get out there more. where do you now see it? >> i think people are worried now. it feels like yesterday a big chunk of the iceberg fell off in that you need this guy to be able to debate donald trump at some point. he needed to be able to do certain things and he didn't look good yesterday. i think that worries people. i agree with my colleagues the alternative is so much worse. and i do think people are starting to shift their brain now into lmt like a parliamentary system like we're just voting for the right party regardless of the person because at the end of the day that's kind of how american politics are starting to function. if you pick the party, neither side can be that happy about the person. look, i love joe biden. i got a chance to work for the guy. he picked me out of the puppy pile early in my career.

i hate to see him going through this. i hate to see him being disrespected by reporters. i hate to see him, you know, trying to defend himself in the way he was. it was heart breaking. and so i don't think yesterday was good. i think people should be speaking up for joe biden. i think people need to be speaking up for the good he's done for the country. the labor unions are stronger than ever because of joe biden. you've got a bunch of people creating jobs in red states and clean energy because of joe biden. joe biden may not be able to speak for himself the way he used to, but we should be speaking up for what he's done. if you don't see people speaking up for him, that's going to be the problem. >> he said something last night i thought really interesting and her take was the way people are consuming information now particularly younger people it's all in little bites and, you know, sound bites on social media and stuff. and there's a split screen of reporters, you know, trying to yap over each other to get their most important question in.

with the split screen of that and president biden just looking at them, the reporters, frankly, didn't -- it wasn't a pretty picture from what -- from what the reporters were doing. they -- i mean i aappreciate what my colleagues do, but i wouldn't have want to be one of them in that split screen in that moment. and she was raising the point maybe the way and also even the president's comments on gaza might resonate with people who want to hear that side moreso than we think because we're kind of thinking -- we're parsing every word. >> yeah, conduct yourself with such dignity. if i can reveal a trade secret. back in the 1992 campaign when clinton was revealed of all these allegations of scandal, i took away the multiple boxing everyone can plug their microphone into so you had this cluster of microphones so it looked like he was besieged to

make it look worse for the press frankly and better for clinton. i thought it was perfectly fair. i really hate this. when trump says it's made of green cheese, joe says it's a giant rock and we say candidates crash on lunar landscape. let's call buzz aldrin. you've been there. is it cheese or rock? i've talked to national security people, nonpartisan who worked for both trump and biden and they all say the same thing. they use these words. trump is crazy and he's dangerous. biden, he's fine. he's not right about everything, i disagree with this or that but he's totally focused he's very sharp and the proof is in the performance. remember miles taylor, the chief of staff of homeland security wrote an anonymous piece saying trump is dangerous. you're not hearing any of that from biden's aides because eit's not happening. he's perfectly sharp. he's up to the job. >> i did a 30, 40-minute sit down interview with president biden about grief.

sitting 2 feet from him across the table, and he was -- i mean he was very good. people can listen to the podcast. in that format he was incredibly heartfelt and, you know, intense and got across exactly what he wanted to say. do you have concern about the formats he's being put in? >> i think he needs to -- i think he's got to be out there more because the more people hear from him, the more they see the sides paul was talking about. they see the focus on the job, certainly they see the empathy. obviously when you're president of the united states, it's not as easy to get out of the white house and get out from behind the desk as it is when you're a candidate because, you know, you're responsible for running the country. but he needs to get out of the white house, out across the country, needs to be meeting with people. and i think, again, when people see him more they get that

sense. you have no less partisan than kevin mccarthy who would walk out of meetings with president biden and would -- would tell reporters he was sharp and on top of it. now, of course he would do the big, you know, the maga talking points he's got to do. but when he was being honest about those engagements he was saying he was sharp. anyway, i think people need to see him. they need to flip the dynamic here, and they can do that by getting joe biden out and letting people see him on display. just ahead new details on last night's shooting at times square and new video tonight of the attack against new york police department officers near a migrant shelter just a block away from that shooting.

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tonight law enforcement sources tell cnn a 15-year-old venezuelan migrant suspected in a shootinglash night in times square is now in custody. the 15-year-old allegedly shot a tourist, fired multiple times at an officer during a chase. this comes as officers release new video of an attack on two police officers outside a mifwrnt shelter last month. the man in a is one of the people charged in the assault. >> what we've learned is this basically a tenth grader. you know, it's a 15-year-old boy staying in a migrant shelter in midtown. he was going to steal a jacket allegedly from this store when the store detectives stopped him and said, you know, do you have a receipt for that, and she took the bag away from him, and he took three steps, fished out that gun and fires at the store detective instead hitting a tourist from brazil, and then he was connected to one other

shooting in midtown manhattan and another gunpoint robbery in the bronx through ballistics and other evidence. and the hunt was on. they captured him late today in yonkers, new york. >> where was -- i mean do they know where he got the gun? >> so they did not recover a gun. they still have some searches to do, but the way they connected those incidents was using ballistic tests on the shell casings recovered that matched the shootings. so they know, you know, he's a 15-year-old kid with a .45 and he's not afraid to use it. >> yeah, he's been using it around town. that's crazy. and what about the new video released by the manhattan d.a. on the attack of the two police officers? what more do we know about that? >> so the new video is not just a different high shot from another security camera but also the body camera video that puts you right in the incident. and in one instance it's answered a lot of questions because you're right there in the middle of the violence. in another incident -- in another instance it stirred up some controversy among critics who say police say they were

blocking the sidewalk, they were storderly, the video doesn't show that. and what police sources tell me is this the times square detail, these are the cops there all the time, and they know the conditions and the players, and that they were approach by people. and this is not on the video or recorded in the record because it just wouldn't be who said those iguys are harassing women who are walking by, you know, they're yelling out stuff, they're in the way. you know, can somebody do something, and this is a routine where they kind of sweep them off to move along instead of hanging out in that spot. the guy in the yellow coat is the guy who said i'm not going basically, and that would have been something that could have ended up in court, whether that was a lawful encounter or not. but once he starts fighting with police and the others jump on, that train has left the station. that's an assault on a police officer. >> really disturbing. just ahead how reprayered are u.s. voters for the emergence of deep fake videos? a cnn investigation looks into it.

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a cop of being bad if they kill one person that was running away. back in my day cops would kill say 17 or 18 vucrillians in their career and nobody would bat an eye. >> reporter: when democrat paul -- ran in a contentious race last year he faced a deep fake created using artificial intelligence. >> we need to stop defunding the police and start refunding them. >> reporter: you've never actually heard the -- >> oh, wow. >> reporter: well, i'm going to play it for me. >> no, no. it'll only aggravate me. >> reporter: okay, this deep fake audio of you played into this idea that, you know, you weren't democrat enough for the democratic party, that you're too pro-police which was a line of attack against you. >> clearly. chicago is very, very blue city and they were trying to portray me as some far hard-right conservative republican.

being able to throw mud against the wall like that puts you in a position where you have to deny or damage has still been done and there's some damage not repairable. >> it's clear based on the results tonight deeply divided. >> he lost the election by 5 points. he said he doesn't know the full effect the deep fake had on the race. the deep fake was called the chicago news. doesn't exist. it was setup to personally character assassinate you and this was a close race. >> this was a very close race. >> reporter: they're no longer a hypothetical problem but an actual threat to elections. >> 17 or 18 civilians in their career and no one would bat an eye. >> i make a lot of deep makes and i can do that whole thing. and here's why audio alone is in some ways a bigger threat. the most compelling deep fakes

i've seen are these hot mic defects. you don't see their mouth moving but you hear the voice and it's visceral, and it sounds like you're eve dropping on them, and i think those are really powerful. >> reporter: a cnn analysis shows the u.s. isn't prepared to respond effectively. we asked election officials in all 50 states how they're preparing for deep fakes. 33 responded but less than half of those cited specific actions to handle a.i. threats. >> i don't think we're ready. i mean, we are still struggling with the last ten years of the nonsense that has been social media and the lies and the conspiracies that have propagated. it's hard to look at that and say, well, the injection of jet fuel into that is not going to have an any impact. of course it will. >> francisco says he's working out how to respond. you mentioned on the panel there a federal official asked you about what you are doing about a.i., and you kind of said what are you guys doing? >> exactly.

because again you look at our budget at the state of nevada and you see what constraints we have. they have access to significant resources that we don't have. right now we're having to say this is what we need, this is what we want, this is where we feel vulnerable. i don't think we've been through a full election cycle where it's truly existed. so we are kind of in pioneering times right now. >> i talked to a lot of people on the left, liberals, and there is at times a bit of smugness there, but says the trump supporters this far right information, not us. we're also susceptible to this. >> we're also susceptible to it. we all do it. when i say we all do it, i'm saying within every group there are people who do it. there are people who will cross that line. >> a lot of americans think the risk of a.i. and this sort of stuff it's in the fuch, it's being overblown. >> i mean the future is now, the future is here. i won't be the first and i won't be the last, you know? >> donee o'sullivan joins us.

it's so incredible and fasci fascinating. the fcc say the calls are illegal. is there a coordinated plan on dealing with this? >> coordinated might be strong words. when it comes to disinformation and deep fakes in this election the federal government, we're all effing tied up in knots. there's no debate that everybody views this as a threat, and in fact just before the holidays in december we learned that the white house held a -- a simulation, a war game on what top intelligence officials do and specifically the scenario was if chinese operatives created a fake a.i. generated video showing a senate candidate burning ballots. what would they do if that emerged during the election or the eve of election, and talked for two hours. they eventually decided they

would leave the communication of that to come from local and state election officials because, frankly, they're trusted more than the federal government. but then you talk to local and state officials and they say, wait a minute -- >> we don't know how to do that. >> reporter: the resources. everyone's aware this is big problem, but they're scrambling, and time's running out. >> thanks so much. that is the real donee o'sullivan. this sunday is one of biggest events in sports. as most of the country gears up to watch, the rest are watching to spot taylor swift in the stands. harry enten joins us next.

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plus, get the new samsung galaxy s24 on us. so i don't need to tell you sunday's the big day. the kansas city chiefs face the san francisco 49ers in the super bowl. taylor swift is expect today be there. even i know that. her boyfriend tight end travis kelce. i admittedly don't know much about football so i have harry ebt enten to help me break it down. embarrass me. >> i don't want to embarrass you. i want to teach you. let's start with what i think is nonnecessary football question. how much do you think a 30-second ad costs for the super bowl? $7 million. >> it is $7 million. that is up from $2 million two years ago. so the prices of an ad have gone

up. of course you're not going to be reaching necessarily anderson coomer. the other big story of the game as you pointed out was travis kelce and taylor swift. now, we're big swifties, we love taylor swift, but there's been all this controversy, okay. so what percentage of nfl fans believe that the swift-kelce relationship has been good for the national football league? is it 31%, 51% or 71%. >> i'm goesing these are football fans they would say, "a," 31%. i bet you it's a lower number. >> no, it's 71. >> good. >> isn't that great? >> see wre, ehaven more love for taylor swift. >> there's all this anti-taylor stuff but turns out most of that is in the blogo sphere or anti-twitter. the 49ers have a chance to win on sunday and it'll be their sixth super bowl win. that will tie them for the most super bowl winwise which two

franchises? and we had some logos for you if you can take a look. >> i'm sorry. >> i know it's very difficult for you. >> i know the one on the right is the new england patriots. >> that's good. >> the sparkling diamonds. >> the sparkling diamonds. actually that's the name of my -- >> whose motto is that? >> that is the steelers, the pittsburgh steelers. >> that's the pittsburgh steelers logo? >> i know it's very shocking for you. given you know so much about the nfl -- >> is that a new logo? >> no, that's been their logo forever, man. >> really? >> since you were a young little tot walking on the upper east side manhattan. we've got ask you who do you think going to win on sunday the chiefs or 49ers? >> i'm glad you said who the teams were again because i'd

forgotten it. literally, i just don't get it. i'm going for taylor swift's boyfriend's team. >> which team is that? >> kansas city chiefs. >> yes. >> so i'm going with the kansas city chiefs. i want her to be happy. >> we all want to be happy. >> harry enten, thanks. we'll be right back.