2022, maybe meting to deflationary recession next year 2024. polls so biden's economy is rating at just 21% with 78 percent saying it's in bad shape. now, president biden is blaming the media, ha ha ha bud shut blame his own policies. >> let this be a lesson, it's never too late to say you're sorry. "laura coates live" is now. >> ha ha ha has to be a miami in the universe. i don't know where i'll use it but i'll be using. >> i'll by waiting. have a great show. >> have a great weekend. all right. breaking news tonight, u.s. airstrikes on targets in iraq and also syria. president biden says it's not over yet. tonight on "laura coates live."

president joe biden retaliating tonight, five days after three army reservists were killed in attack on jordan, strikes across iraq and syria is the beginning of what will likely be strikes on iran backed militias making attacks on u.s. troops in the middle east and will continue at times and places of our choosing unquote. while avoiding a full scale blow up with iran in a region already in turmoil over the israel-hamas war all this on the day the president performed one of the most solemn duties of the commander-in-chief, attending to the dignified return of the three american soldiers killed in the attack in jordan on

sunday. tonight we are covering all aspects of this breaking news. orrin lieberman at the pentagon ben wedeman. orrin what do we know about these strikes in iraq and syria tonight. >> laura a series of strikes that are order of magnitude larger than what we have seen the u.s. do the last couple months simultaneous strikes in iraq syria seven different locations four in syria three in iraq 85 different targets with more than 185 precision guided weapons across this target yet and not just facilities and weapons storage it's command an control intelligence center weapons storage sites the administration very much trying to send a message here to iran's proxies and militant groups in the region, but as up pointed out, threading a needle here trying not to start a war with

iran and no direct strikes in iran itself but clearly the administration going after iran's proxies in the region, and iran's islamic revolutionary guard corps, so carrying out this series of strikes even the platformist used send a message heavier b-1 bovmers more powerful than the normal fighter jets f16's used to carry out these strikes and the message from president joe biden isn't ending right here. this essentially echoed by defense secretary lloyd austin who said this is the start of our response. so very much a message sent to iran's proxies in the region there could be more coming and it could remain powerful laura. >> orrin lieberman thanks so much. now to cnn international correspondent ben wedeman. the middle sees on edge and this conflict could spin out of control. how dangerous is this moment

right now for the region? laura it's as dangerous as it's ever been in terms of a possible direct military confrontation between iran and the united states. now as orrin mentioned the united states has stressed it won't be striking targets in iran but certain lid the situation is such that there's a very reamed possibility that mistakes could be fade that there could be miscalculations and it has many in the region very worried. now, the iraqi government has come out and condemned the united states strikes saying that they're unsenable and a violation of iraqi sovereignty. it's rather ironic however that at the same time iraq is hosting u.s. forces in iraq, some of whom have come under multiple attacks by iranian backed militias in that country but nonetheless it puts many of the governments the author taryn regimes that are allied with the

united states in a very difficult position because on the one side, there's no love lost between them and iran. on the other, there is continuing outrage among the publics in this part of the world over the gakt that the united states is a direct and formidable military and diplomatic backer of gaza and certainly none of this would be going on if the gaza war weren't going on and the feeling is the best way to reduce tensions in the middle east isn't necessarily by conducting days of heavy strikes but rather for the united states to finally come around to putting pressure on israel to stop the war in gaza now. laura. >> ben wedeman thanks for your reporting. stay safe. i bring in retired colonel cedric laden.

first of all the fact it's not happening in iran directly, why is that and why is that important? >> it's really important laura because we don't wanting to to war with iran. that's a very critical element of this. now, what's interesting about the way we did this, we have been telegraphing all along that we did not want to go to war with iran. the administration has been clear about that. this has been mentioned in ben and orrin's reporting. the weapons we used to go after the iran proxies in iran and syria is the b-1 bomber intercontinental aircraft can go anywhere in the world has a range of 7,000 miles and make the middle east without getting refueled from the united states and it is the same kind of weapons system that we would potentially use to go after iran so as iran was watching what we

were doing they have to think is the united states bluffing? are they moving their forces into this area? or are they going to stop short. we stopped short this time. there was a warning to the iranians and i think they saw it. >> talking about that timeline this has happened five days after three u.s. sold jersey were killed saying something about the weather has had impact on the decision to strike now and why. does that timeline match up with what would be strategically prudent? >> you know it does actually. now the weather did have an effect parently on the mission planning. >> why is that though? >> well the weather is important from a targeting standpoint. in many respects you want to have clear weather before you bring in welcomes systems of this time now they do have certain all-weather capabilities so if you really needed to you could use these welcomesing to after the iranians or any proxies in almost any kind of weather but it's better to do it

when it's clear. it's better to do it whentive ability to get in and out without having to worry about weather systems that could impact the air yasser arafat or the mission itself. >> and the timing of it does it mean it's 5 days since the tragedy of three soldiers killed. does it less enthe effectiveness of the attack and plan and deterrent aspect? >> it could have potentially less en's the effect but the key thing about this is there's a lot of planks that goes into these types of missions. they do have targets on the self-. they know they're going after certain things but they also know that they have to refine those targets once the president's gives direction to strike certain areas and that's what they did them did a lost planning for this mission in the u.s. air force and that's what we saw today with these kinds of, this kinds of mission that occurred. >> the commander-in-chief president biden and this statement and it's a bit

chilling in terms of the ambiguity and also clearly a message being sent. he said, we will respond, we will continue and times and places of our choosing. when you hear that from your perspective and expertise what is he saying and how is that received bid the people he's target something. >> so he's leaving his options open when it comes to military planning to military efforts in and around iran. as far as how if iranians receive it or their proxies receive it they know that this is not over at least the potential exists for further attacks and that is basically what's been planned. there are other attacks that are potential that could happen the next few days or next few weeks and it is could be a lot longer than that into including maybe cyber attacks? >> absolutely so cyber attacks are very interesting because the iranians have a cyber network. they're actually good at mounting cyber attacks

themselves. they destroyed a large portion of the aramco oil company a few years ago using a cyber attack and they have been perpetrators of cyber attacks and victims of cyber attacks. >> this is quite sustained for times or as the president says as times and places of our choosing what that will mean. thanks for that colonel. so how did we get here and what will president bidens next moved be plus should a mother be held responsible for her son's crimes? that's a huge question at the center of the jennifer crumbley trial and tonight we have assembled our own court of public opinion to listen to the arguments and weigh in on how they might decide this case and hear for yourself and seed if you agree. coming up.

>> so, can president biden retaliate against iranian backed militias with carrier attacks on troops in the middle east without it turning into a wider conflict? joining me former secretary assistant secretary of state for president obama, joel rubin. every time we have you back there's a major conflict happening. my question is how does this not turn to a bigger wider conflict. diplomacy is the delicate dance and we talked about it a lot. so gl you look at there is the message received in a way that will keep america safe? >> you know laura look this, message has to be received in tehran. the president has been stating publicly there's know interest in having a war between the

united states and iran but they're sending a very careful and calibrated message targeting those who committed the acts and kill american troops unjust finally. if this message is not received what we are going to see potentially is continued attacks. i think the iranians have to look at what is happening in the region. they are exploiting now from my perspective the fight between israel and hamas and they're exploiting it testing prodding the% gulf with the houthis in iraq and jordan as we've seen and this has to be a message they get clearly and i hope they do get it. >> it doesn't stop here in terms of strategy for the military of the united states one thinking strategically a couple steps ahead what is biden's next move or should be? >> something that george w. bush didn't do and there's a lot of

discussion is this a slippery slope to war with iran. i served in the state department during the bush administration whether we invaded iraq and there's one crucial component that was missing then that i believe the president is engaged in now, which is diplomacy. back then george w. bush engaged in diplomacy in the service of the war. today president biden sending out secretary of state to the region to make it's not in the service of war, it's in the service of peace and security so opening up channels with our allies to speak to tehran and maybe founding a route to talk to tehran directly to dlaum r calm the situation i think where the president is trying to lead this and publicly menning all the time. >> you look at this and think about us getsing to there particular pointed there's a lots of consideration. will this be the ultimate deterrence? >> you know the ultimate deterrence there's no magic bullet to resolving all the problems in the middle east. that's the hard part of this

region. it's been this way for decades. but what one has to do is insure that they are applied and engaged consistently. i've said in the past and believe iran would like the united states to depart the middle east. this is a demonstration and red blinder we aren't going anywhere and there needs to be engagement strategy and united states is engaging with allies and hopefully the message is received in iran and our diplomacy will complement that. >> joel rubin thanks so much. >> thanks laura. >> closing arguments in the jennifer crumbley trial could have plieksz on who is responsible for a mass shooting and we have something special, the court of public opinion is here to weigh in.

xfinity rewards presents: '1st and 10gs.' xfinity is giving away ten grand to a new lucky winner for every first and ten during the big game. enter daily through february 9th for a chance to win 10gs. with the ultimate speed, power, and reliability the xfinity 10g network is made for streaming live sports. because it's only live once. join xfinity rewards on the xfinity app or go to xfinity1stand10gs.com for your chance to win.

>> a historic trial taking place in america, and we are going to cover it here in a way that no one else. taking you inside our own virtual courtroom where our court of public opinion will hear prosecution and defense arguments in a real live case of jennifer crumbley the mother of a suspect in the worst school shooting in history. her son will spend the rest of his life in prison. a jury will tell you whether she's guilty of involuntary manslaughter. >> i'm asking to you find jennifer crumbley not guilty not just for jennifer crumbley but for every mother who is out there doing the best she can who could east hi be in her shoes.

>> she wants to you believe she's somebody she's not. you know what she's not? she's not somebody that used ordinary care to prevent what was foreseeable, reasonably forseeable that could have happened, injury or death, and it did. >> tonight, we are going to tap into what the american public thinks of this very case. we have elliott williams arguing for the prosecution and joey jackson will be the defense counsel here and then our own jurors on the court of public opinion will weigh in on what they've heard and seen here tonight. now of course this is not a court of law. our jurors will not be rendering a verdict but they will tell us what they think of the arguments and evidence they heard here tonight. that will give us some insight what could happen when a jury of her peers judges jennifer crumbley in michigan. three separate questions. first, if jennifer crumbley missed the related flags and

warning signs about her son and will begin where the prosecution has the burden of proof. prosecution, make your case to the injury. >> i thank you your honor or ms. coates. here's the thing. when we pick apart a case it's important to the to get bogged. think about what does the law saw? this is involuntary manslaughter. the prosecution seeks to prove this person was negligent which essentially means asleep at the wheel in a basic duty she had toy out as a bant. now look at some of the things she missed along the way. there were a litany of diary enters written by her son indicating his parents weren't paying attention to him and his mother who is the defendant here number one he writes one that says i want help but my parent won't listen so i can't get any help he's litly trying for help for mental health help. number 2 i get zero help from my parents for my mental health problems.

number 3 my parents don't listen. now my friend joey jackson would probably say they weren't on notice. they didn't read hits diary. they actually were on notice. there's at heats one instance he starts talking about instance one structure on the property being haunted that he was hearing voices and she brushed off serious questions that were coming from her son about voices she was hearing at a haunted house. finally she's brought to school the morning of the shooting a few hours before it happens and shown a drawing that he made showing ballot on the ground and i'm going to shoot everybody up or whatever he said and again just brushed it off. she was aware of all of these things hang so no one piece of evidence and defense attorneys love to pick apart each individual one. no. view they will altogether look at the totality and look at this is an individual who missed the warnings signs.

>> well, we've had heard from the prosecution on those related flagsz being missed but the defense, what's your reaction to those claims? >> mental health is a thing this in country. we know that. but the problem with mental health is it's notes readily seen. if someone breaks a leg you can cement they're on crutches. if someone has a spinal injury, they maybe in a wheelchair, you can identify and connect with it. but people with mtszers going on could disguise it. the prosecution mentions these journal entries. no evidence which would suggest the parents ever saw those journal entries so should they be held accountable to that? the reality is someone who i grew up with ten years ago he took his life. >> who would ever think a person so funny so connected to us all would do that to himself so now we turn to this case and when we look at evaluate this case what do we see? we see the fact we had a family that seemed to be normal.

i show you the facebook postings of the family where they just saw a child with his parents having fun. as we look at that and as you absorb that, that's a family that is apparently normal. seemingly everything was okay. but it wasn't. threatened we -- then we get to tissue of parents being on notice of what, a child who may have written things in a journal but didn't tell them, didn't convey the issues he was having with them and not only that, look at what the school today say with respect to he was having a rough time. yes! you're going to hear that diplomaly that his life would have been in shambles or some suchld thing heat was sleeping in class knowledge do you think the school would have told the mother so she would have known? they did note. listen to this. >> were you have a wear there was some issue november 10th where your son was average rough time? >> no.

>> did anyone from the school ever let you know? >> no. >> did you ever see anything like this prior to us getting materials in this case? >> no. >> if you heard your son was having a rough time, what would you do to follow up? >> i would talk to my son, find out what's going on. >> well, i want to get the perspective of the jury. they've heard both the prosecution and defense and even from jennifer crumbley herself. i question what you guys make of that. was anything you heard here tonight particularly persuasive. i'll begin with you. juror one. >> yeah, i think at the end of the day there's no excuses for not noticing all these things going on with your son. you know, i heard the defense attorney saying they're trying to defend not just this woman but all mothers everywhere who are doing their best and maybe she was doing her best but her best is herely not good enough and if your best leads to your son leading the biggest mass

shooting in michigan i think this is cup built there. >> do the red flags present a good thing for the prosecution or the defense? >> i think it presented a good thing for the prosecution mgs you're demonstrating that she should have been aware. >> but how about what she is saying and i mentioned a bit back they didn't present to her in terms of the school emails and correspondence, were the diary entries enough for her to be aware of it? >> yes, not only the diary entries but also the phone call, the haunted house. that's not something you hear and say you know what? let's go to a gun range. >> what do you think juror 3. >> yes, i would have to disagree. i think in the life of a parent or the life of a person trying to support a family, i think it's necessarily challenging to say that they will know all their children's fears are realities, even if it's in a journal. i do think it's important that

the school alert the parent of this and to say that it's her fault if were you to ask any american parent today specifically [indistinct] i think it's a challenge to say that they should be involved or accountable for everyone of the children's actions with an understanding this is a very serious consequence here and four people are dead and several others are hurt. i don't think though that the mother or the prosecution has really presented such valuable case here where she is totally guilty. >> you're nodding along. what rudd think something. >> i think that juror number 3 makes a good point understanding [indistinct] but i'm not going to pretend i know what it means to be a parent and face that pressure. at the same time, i don't understand how ms. crumbley could be confronted with those drawings by her son and not immediately feel shock and fear and immediately wanting to go to

her child and do everything in her power to make sure he's not a threat to other people and even though i can't empathize with ms. crumbley fullly i think it was a serious rid flag. what happened before should have made her change and how she was responsibilitying to her child. >> you agree. >> yes, the defense mentioned why would parents necessarily know what is going on in her son's diary entries and that's a good point. children deserve a degree of privacy but you're going to tell me the counselor kauldz the mohammed the day. shooting and said your son is drawing disturbing images in class and the mom completely brushes it off like sure, if the moat had some sort of personal fall and knew it would lead to this horrible incident i'm sure she would have taken greater action but the fact she didn't at minimum pull her son from school just for the day do say

let's just spend some time you and i will together and have a chat about what's going on, again i'm also not a parent so i don't pretend to understand the challenges of being a parent, especially a full time working parent as i know this mom was but i think it's inexcuse bltd to see that sign of difficulties stresses from your child and completely brush it off. >> i agree with those points but you mention aetd critical detail if the mother would have known at that point that her son was doing that she would have intervened, the truth is and from the processes accuse has set under here is that you know, the journals that had been found before it's been from my understanding a home made thing. doingt think the mother actually knew at that very point that her son would do something so heinous that day. >> bring us our next question about what she did know.

she said it was her husbandest responsibility to insure it was safe. listen to this. >> are guns your inning? >> not really no. >> okay, but you have an wairn about guns in your home. >> i do. >> okay. who is responsible for storing the gun? >> high husband is. >> okay. explain why you say he's responsible for that role. >> um i just didn't feel comfortable being in charge of that. it was more his thing so i let him handle that. i didn't feel comfortable putting the lock thing on it. i just rather have him do it. >> let's go right to the prosecution. >> this is about negligence how sloppy or careless was this individual. this isn't about whether it's okay to have firearms in your house wlachl did you do to

secure them and make them available to your child. if you have a shed in the back of your house and had machetes or yellow cake uranium or c-4 explosives in there you don't get the argument my husband takes care of the lawnmower the mere fact they're in your house with a code on a safe that was 000. they didn't even make an attempt to try to secure those games like the movie space balls where the guy has 12345 as the code on his luggage and everybody makes fun of him. it's just nonsense and she ought to be held accountable. >> defense. >> the reality is gun ownership is a thing in this country and we know it should be responsible there's no question bit. we also know they had a target in the home and we would acknowledge it let's take a look at the actual target they had in the home. the reality is that the purpose of having the weapon it was a hobby of the family. the second amendment protects that if you look at what happened with the school the school apparently was concerned

because of this drawing and in light of the fact held the called the mom. the mom goes to the school and the school says that they don't have reasonable suspicion to check the bag? you can call the mother and the father to come to the school because you're concerned with a drawing about the gun but the school doesn't look into the bag and i stead hands it back? what are we dealing with when we have that level of negligence upon the school with respect to their responsibility? so at the end of the day i ask you ladies and gentlemen to look at the gun in totality if the school would have done its job we wouldn't be here. >> i want to turn back to the jury on this important point. they've raise twoetd compelling arguments one whose responsibility it was in the purchase and what the will school should have known on that particular day. what stood out to you? >> well honestly as a former educateder this was the component of the individual or the case that i found most compelling is it was related to the most and to be honest i

think that i am very sympathetic toward the people that work at the school. yes it seems there were some things they could have done more but we know the counselor had that meeting with the mom because of the drawing that her son did and if the mom decided to completely brush it off, when i used to have meetings with my students and their parents and if i had a disagreement with a parent about what kind of course of action the student should take i always defer to the parents judgment. i would never go so far as assume i knew a student or cared about them more than their parntd did so the fact the school deferred to the parent's judgment i think most of the time that's what you should do and i don't think it's their fault. >> i don't hounts the mom seeing the drawing and doesn't immediately look to him. to me that boggles my mind. you know he has some sort of homicidal tend assist thoughts desire to use it, with the blood, i don't know how you don't try to find the gun

immediately. >> does it change anything for knowing she knew he had a gun in his general home? >> yeah, i dosage think it necessarily changes. i do think i take it like consideration when you know, thinking about how it would all turn out for the mother. i think the blame for me on this particular part and this is a very important detail, i think the blame is would have to be on the school in terms of their lack of ability to express to the parents. i will say when you think about the last point, the amount of responsibility that a parent has, you know, many people have different things around their homes and smgtd their families always children. who is to say these guns were not out before previous many nights and days? the mother going on about her day to say she absolutely knew this gun was gone you know i don't think that it really rises

up in a good argument. she could have been focused on other things. she probably didn't know she had it. >> that was part of the argument that juror 2 made throughout she was distracted by other things throughout her life as opposed to focusing but also idea of the school not checking the backpack whether they called them in and keep in mind this is a community where hunting is a very avid and frequently used sport. does that change anything for you? >> i think both things can be true. i think the school can bear responsibility for insuring that their students are not going to pose a threat to other members of the community and i think that ms. crumbley bears responsibility for assuring her child does not pose a threat to others in the community but i think it's a threshold question and ultimately msz crumbley bears the ultimate responsibility as the adult in the household who purchased the gun for her son who knew about the existence of the gun and who did know her son was struggling. i think that on balance

ms. crumbley is the one who should have informed the school that her shop was carrying this firearm. >> it's interesting because we also were talking about another's adult in that household, that is the husband who will stand trial next. i wonder the consequence there. thanks to joe i jackson elliott williams and our defense. i want to talk more to our jury what were they thinking and were their minds changed as the presentation was given. be right back.

>> we are back with our court of public opinion. the jury heard the arguments from prosecution and defense in the real life case of jfr

crumbley who was on trial for involuntary manslaughter after her teen shot and killed four class mates in the worst shooting in michigan history. i want to dig into this deep weather the court of public opinion. we have heard from the prosecution and the defense. i wonder what you make of her presentation and demeanor on the stand when she was speaking about having him kill her and her husband instead. listen to this. >> i asked myself if i would have done anything different lid and i wouldn't have. >> if you could change what happened, would you? >> oh, absolutely. i wish he would have killed us instead. >> now, she has gone back to figure out if hindsight was 2020. >> i have no sympathy for her.

i have sympathy for the children killed the fronlders that saw that sight, how can she say she couldn't do anything better? i've got some great ideas for her like let's not give her son a firearm and take him target shooting when he has mental health issues. i had can think of two school shootings where the parents took the shooter to a gun range. i think sandy hook was the exact same thing but as a parent i find you know the safety of my children to be number one. how can she not looked for the gun, not to harp on that, but i was clearly unimpressed and actually very disappointed as a parent. >> bus isolating this event from others i think it's important to consider that when you think of the culture or the context in the community it's important to note this was a hunting community that guns why

everywhere and absent mental health issues this was a very kind of real thing. in my reaction to seeing the mother, kind of mention though words, i do have a certain level of empathy but i still would like to see her be helped accountable. i think it's important to remember though that again there isn't much here that she could have done to say or change the situation. >> or take him out of school when he was drawing bloody pictures. >> but considering the circumstances of what she was in, she mentioned if we take what she said at faces value she was going through a number of different things that people or parents may go through on a daily basis you don't necessarily think that you can show up differently so again i think she should be held accountable but i also think we have to isolate this event from

others and not this was the kultd tour of that community and she probably thought this was a rank and file day and you can't separate that from the situation. >> juror number 2 i want to ask you you thought this was a threshold issue and you railed what the school could have done. i wonder if this will change your views at all. listen? at any point, did anybody request to search the back back? >> they did not. >> did you search is backpack yourself? >> i did not. it wasn't necessary that i do that because i didn't have reasonable suspicion to do that. >> was the impacts of having them not do something with that backpack with those drawings? >> well. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say it's up to the mom. she's there at the meeting. she knows her son has a handgun. she told the school. >> do you agree?

>> i do. i agree with what juror number 4 said earlier i can't wrap my head knowing what she knows now she would have done anything differently and i think if that can be true while acknowledge wag juror number 3 raise tled was a gun ownership in this community and can agree there are common sense measures that responsible gun owners should put in place this they're going to have guns in the household and it does not seemed the crumbleys had nose mesh nurse place and i don't understand how looking back on what happened that ms. crumbley wouldn't think to implement those common sense very basic safety measures. >> i'll ask you a final question each of you and it's yes or no. is the impression you had about jennifer crumbley before hearing the presentation of evidence changed with hearing more information or does the impression you had initially the

one you have now? yes or no. >> yes, it changed. >> yes, it changed. >> yes, it changed. >> no, it didn't. >> fascinating. we'll see what the jury in the actual court of law has to say about this. special thanks to our jurors in this court of public opinion. if you would like to be a juror in the next court of public opinion contact us at the address on the screen. we'll be right back. fascinating. don't go any where.

how about a statement? >> get away. >> how about a statement? >> stallion. >> how did the story go? >> stallion. >> you're lucky, so lucky. what you did was a miracle. you're the luckiest man in the face of the earth. i want you to know that stallion. nobody goes the distance with me. get up off that chair and finish this fight with me. >> the legendary carl weathers has died. he followed his successful nfl career with iconic roles in hollywood. playing apollo creed going against arnold schwarzenegger and starting in the mandelorian among so many other roles. i had the privilege of having weathers on my show.

here's a little part of our conversation. >> when we looked at these little children and we see photographs of them smiling or we see them interacting with their friends, before they've been, taught back habits, before they've had their spirits broken, before they've been able to witness people hurting people, before they've been hurt themselves, what we see are these beautiful free spirits who can become almost anything. >> and became carl weathers, he did. carl weathers manager says he died peacefully at home last might. this magnificent soul was 76. thank you all for watching, our live coverage continues.