of hope? as visionaries that believe that the strength of our ideas can change our nation again? i will. let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! >> let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! >> oh, yeah. let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go! let's go!

>> let's go, tim scott! >> let me -- let me close with this. as much as i'm excited about this journey, i simply want to say this. it's really not about me. it's about that 7-year-old girl named jordan who brought roses to the station, it's about 12-year-old sutherland surrat who came on this stage. you see, america is a city on . we are the beacon in the midst of darkness. we have an unusual

respon responsibility. we have the responsibility to prove that self-governance works. we have the responsibility to share for a thousand generations what america has done for me, she can do for you. this can't be another presidential campaign. we don't have time for that. we need a president who pe persuades not just our friends and our base. we need a president that persuades. we have to do that with common sense, conservative principles. but we have to have a compassion for people. we have to have a compassion for people who don't agree with us. we have to believe that our ideas are so strong and so

powerful and so persuasive that we can actually take it to the highest points in the world and be successful. but we also have to be able to take it all the way down to places that today are hopeless and prove that who we are works for all americans. i'm living proof that god and a good family and the united states of america can do all things if we believe. will you believe it with me? [ [ cheers and applause ] will you join the team of the greatest nation on god's green earth? [ cheers and applause ]

i love it. let me close with this. may the lord bless us for another thousand generations, and be gracious towards us. i believe the next american century starts today. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ hello, everybody, and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington.

thank you for your time today. first, what you're just watching there in that rowdy hall in charleston, south carolina, a big bet that republican voters are worn out by donald trump's politics of anger and of grievance and they want hope instead. just moments ago you were watching live here on cnn senator tim scott officially announcing his entry into the 2024 republican primary contest. he joins with a not insignificant amount of cash and with a message centered on hope and faith and opportunity. eva mckenna is right there for us. eva, a great crowd behind him cheering him on, now the challenge. he's been testing the water for months. now that he's officially in, can he climb from the bottom of the pack to the top? >> reporter: that's right, john, it will be a challenge indeed though hard to tell from the excitement from his supporters in this room. at times it really felt like a church service but really was a speech in two parts. you know, he began talking about

his personal biography, the son of a single mother, bringing his mother up on stage at one point to give her flowers. and saying that his life just pr disproves the argument of the left, that america is a country of optimism and opportunity, not oppression. the second part of the speech, john, really was an indictment of president biden. he not so much focused on his republican rivals but really wanted to seem to have his eyes towards a general election. take a listen to his early pitch to voters. >> joe biden and the radical left are attacking every single rung of the ladder that helped me climb. and that's why i'm announcing today that i'm running for president of the united states

of america! >> reporter: so there you get a sense of how he plans to run this race, really focusing on his personal biography, inspiration and reticent to do a lot of mud slinging when it comes to his fellow republican rivals. no real references to the former president or governor desantis. the closest he got to that was when he said grievance over greatness. >> eva, that's not easy to do, appreciate your perspective being there on tim scott's announcement day. let's bring the conversation in studio. with me, manu raju, katherine lucy, and aiyisha rascoe. just listening to senator scott, the far away front-runner is donald trump. that is z to trump's a. that is optimistic, that is

upbeat, it's conservatism but he wants to have a compassionate conservatism. the question is, does that republican party still exist? that's the test. >> i don't think it really does. i think that was a great speech for 1996. i don't know that that speaks to 2023. and i do think that it's very interesting, and he's doing what the other republican candidates other than trump have been doing, focusing on the left and all these things, but their path to getting the nomination goes through trump. until you go through him, until we really see what that looks like, it just -- i don't know what is the path. you have to go through trump to get there. >> and he has avoided for some time going after trump. really he's been asked this in interviews. he doesn't talk to reporters in the capitol anymore. he will talk on some other stations, get eninterviewed. he sidesteps the question. he makes reference to being not

part of grievance politics. but how hard will he go after him? he does have a lot of establishment support. john thune coming out behind him. other senate republicans i've talked to believe that he is their candidate. and he'll have a ton of money. but does that translate to iowa and new hampshire with the republican base, trump-loving base, that's the question. >> senator scott is a safe landing spot because his colleagues like him, love him. think he's a powerful messenger for conservative values. so they can stay with him and not with trump. in his home state of south carolina where the former governor, nikki haley, will also be a candidate. scott's big bet, he just barely touched on trump, he said greatness, not grievances. is it his biography? is it that people look at his biography and say, wait a minute, let's do something different. >> my grandfather said to me, son, you can be bitter or you can be better. but you can't be both.

you see, he chose patriotism over pity. he focused on the windshield of his life and not on the rear-view mirror. and today i am living proof that america is the land of opportunity and not a land of oppression. >> the challenge for anybody, but especially somebody like senator scott who's well known here in washington, if you're going to knock off a front-runner, you had to do it early. come in really close in iowa or new hampshire. can that sell? >> i think in iowa, john, you and i know iowa very well, i think that's a powerful message. it's a powerful personal story. he is heavily leaning on faith, personal responsibility. you heard that audience, it really had a religious tone. so i could think it lands. but the problem also with iowa, they're viewing a big list of

candidates, a big field, and those are early voters who like to kick the tires on everybody, they like to meet everybody. when you talk to them, they're like i have my top three, i have my top four. he could end up in the top tier and not necessarily number one. >> the longer that goes on, that you're second or third to trump, we saw this in 2016, that helps trump. so desantis gets in mid-week. chris christie is getting in this week as well. you have a couple others waiting to get in. you see on the far left of your screen the candidates that are in. that benefits trump unless and until a single alternative emerges and the others get out. it's just hard. it's your ego, you're finally in the race, it's hard to get out. if you listen to senator scott, though, what's interesting is he is optimistic, he is upbeat and he's a great communicator. he delivers a pretty strong conservative message. he does it with a smile. he says joe biden is weak.

he talked about sending american troops in to fight the cartels. they'll take note of that in mexico, a sovereign nation to the south. this is not a -- it's actually probably a more conservative message than you'll hear from donald trump who's not about ideology. >> that's what he's going to have to convince voters of. not necessarily make this a personality contest, although his personality will drive a lot of it but what he would do as president and his agenda and his policy. the challenge for him is there are all these other candidates who will divide up the anti-trump vote. people like ron desantis who wants to make this a trump versus desantis contest is that's going to be a problem. >> we saw this in 2016, this big field of candidates. do we need to get someone out? but no one ever wants to get out. the longer they all stay in

fighting it out for second and third place, it benefits trump. >> so that's a conversation that happens a couple of months down the road. maybe right before iowa, right after iowa, iowa, new hampshire and south carolina. but he has a decent amount of money left over in his senate fund. the fact many colleagues will support him means there will be money for tim scott. but where is the opportunity for break through? trump has said he might not even join the first debate. so scott's debate first might be against desantis and some of the others before he gets to trump to be the top alternative. >> and that's where he has to differentiate himself. he's saying he doesn't want to get bogged down in the culture wars. he said no crts, more abcs. but how does he make himself stand out? yes, he is a conservative but there are lots of other conservatives that are also running. other than your biography and

your personality, which matters, but i don't know that we are at a point where people are really voting for sunny personalities. like is that what the voters want? it seems like they wanted a lot of meanness lately, like let's be real. so is he representative -- he's representative of what people say they want. but when they're voting, they're voting in a totally different way. >> it's a fantastic point in the sense that trump has remade the republican party. so if you're senator scott or governor hailey or governor christie, you're asking the people who left who come back in and get involved in the primaries. donald trump doesn't say much nice about ron desantis. he did just compliment senator scott for getting into the race. good luck to senator tim scott. it is rapidly loading up with lots of people. and tim is a big step up from ron desanctimonious. trump says thank you for one,

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a big meeting today between president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy with the default chalk at ten days and counting. white house negotiators were back up on capitol hill this morning with the goal of making some progress before the early evening sitdown in the oval office. late sunday both sides did report a little progress but speaker mccarthy listed as what he sees at the giant problem. >> we'll sit down and talk about it. but the underlying issue here is the democrats since they took the majority has been addicted to spending and that's going to stop. we're going to spend less than we spent last year. >> our great reporters are back at the table with us. during the commercial break you

said the white house team went up to speak with the speaker's team. >> yeah, just broke up. we're waiting to get a clear sense of what happened here. but they have a ton of obstacles to overcome in order to avoid a debt default. things did not go well this weekend. they broke off talks. they had to wait for the president to come back from asia. they did have a positive conversation, the speaker and the president, last night but it was really only to get talks going again. and that's when they had more negotiations last night and this morning. the white house negotiations with the speaker's top allies to talk about what level to cap federal spending at. that's really the essence of the dispute right now. there are a whole host of other policy issues that they have to resolve but those are really complicated issues that typically take months to resolve. they only have a matter of days to do it and go through the legislative process, sell it to the members if they get a deal, which is why today and the days ahead are so critical to get there. >> let's start with the substance and then we'll get to

your valid point about the calendar. let's look at some of the issues. republicans want spending cuts. they want to cut spending. the white house has said we will freeze spending. the question is for how long. is it two years, is it five years. the republicans want permitting reforms for fossil fuels, oil and gas. democrats say we will give you that if we get some green energy reforms. republicans say no. the republicans want work requirements for the food stamp program. the president said maybe i'm open to something, progressives have said don't you dare. the longer this is on the vine, everybody thinks i'm going to ask for more. you have the left telling the president don't do this and you have the right saying, oh, take everything that's in the house bill? what else can we ask for? >> which means if they get to something, everyone is going to be unhappy about it. the thing is, though, this is what joe biden ran on that he could do, right?

he said he was a guy who had experience on the hill, which he does, that he understands how to make deals and he understands how to get in the room and make some of those tough judgment calls. so we're going to see today. this is the first time they have sat down one-on-one and that is significant in this process. they haven't had a one-on-one talk since earlier this year so this is the first time in recent days there's been a one-on-one conversation with the president and the speaker and we'll see if that makes any progress forward. >> we'll see if they get anything to frame those conversations. you're not going to get a deal today. i'd love to be proven wrong but do they get enough that the two principals move it forward. if you just look at this calendar today, the senate is out until after memorial day. the house is supposed to be out until early june. june 1st is the current day. you have all these wall street firms crunching numbers and they think maybe there's a couple billion hidden there or hidden there. maybe we could do a week or ten days.

but the treasury secretary i think in part, i'm saying this is her math and in part because if i budge then the negotiations might, no, it's june 1st. >> seniors who count on social security, our military that expects pay, contractors who have provided services to the federal government and some bills have to go unpaid. >> she's trying to lay out the political stakes that you do not want to be blamed for that. i think that's why after the pause in the negotiations over the weekend, everybody got back to the table because you at least want to be in the room. >> and they have to do something, right? look, congress when it comes to deadlines, they like to do some grandstanding. they like everything to fall apart and like to get something done because no one wants to tip the economy into a recession. if you look at markets, and we had a talk about this on the show yesterday on weekend edition, what they are expecting is that something will come through.

they believe that it's like passing a kidney stone. you know it's going to pass, you just don't know when or how painful it will be. and so that is where they're at. and i think that's the bet people are making. yes, they're going to hem and haw but at the end of the day they are not going to not pay people their social security. >> that's true, markets -- wall street has been expecting a deal will happen, but there is also increased anxiety as this gets closer and closer and there are things even if they get a deal, there is an increased sense that volatility is built into our system and that creates problems. >> just one quick thing, john, because we did get some word from patrick mchenry who was in the room. >> one of mccarthy's key deputies. >> walked out of the meeting and told one of our colleague, the hope is that we resolve this. it is in my interest and the americans' interest that we resolve this. people have good will and these are tough negotiations, there's no talk about delaying these negotiations. he wants to be productive and he said it's never too late.

so positive message, but did they get there on the policy? that's the big question. so we'll see. >> and that's the giant -- you laid out exactly what everybody thinks because based on what has happened in the past, you have a new speaker, narrow republican majority, the freedom caucus meeting again tonight and they're going to ask for even more. we'll see if they get good results. the top trump attorney ano announced he is leaving the legal team. the reason for doing that, next. the first time your sales reached 100k with godaddy was also the first time your profits left you speechless. at the counter or on the g save 20% with theowest transaction fees and keep more of what you make. start saving today at gom the day you get your clearchoice dental implants

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a lawyer who played a very prominent role in the classified documents investigation told cnn he left donald trump's legal team because off inreconcilable differences. he says his departure has nothing to do with the case itself or the client, the former president. instead he says there was infighting on the trump legal team and he singled out one particular member. >> the real reason is there were certain individuals that made defending the president much harder than it needed to be. there is one person that works for him, boris epshteyn, who had really done everything he could to try and block us, to preventing us from doing what we could to defend the president.

>> paula reid is with us along with defense attorney shan wu. number one, it's important for a number of reasons. just the fact that he's speaking publicly is rare. but he says mr. epstein blocked him and kept him from defending the president. meaning the lawyers wanted to do x and the answer was no. >> not only was there a disagreement over strategy and what to communicate with the justice department, he also accuses boris of trying to obstruct their efforts to conduct additional efforts for classified documents. and that was really extraordinary because the special counsel is looking at several crimes, including obstruction of justice. it's nothing new, infighting on the trump team, for it to spill over in the public like this is truly significant and i'm sure the special counsel is also watching. >> infighting in a trump team is not unusual but in ongoing

investigations, just in this one, he was important in the classified documents investigation and was called before the grand jury. to be talking publicly and criticizing your fellow team members, that is rare, is it not? >> yeah, it's an extraordinary interview, i would say. and there's some concerns ethically. there are rules that say you cannot reveal client confidences and certainly infighting within the legal team about what's happening is part of the client confidences and it could be detrimental to the client, trump. i really found it amazing that he was actually explaining his view of what evan corcoran should have done in that writing because implicit in that is all sorts of criticisms of the writing itself, which again is potentially detrimental to the client trump. so a very unusual situation to see that disagreement spill over. not unusual to have disagreements among a team, but you've got to keep it quiet. >> especially when the issues are so complicated. i want to be fair to team trump. they issued a statement that he is no longer a member of the

legal team. his statements regarding current members of the legal team are unfounded and categorically false so they have taking issue with the substance part of his conversation in which he said, hey, we had strategy differences and took after boris epshteyn. >> i'm interested to see if this interview has the desired impact. will it cause the former president to change up his team? change the strategy going forward? we know there are some conversations going on down in florida, so i'm very interested to see what the impact is on the investigation and on the defense side. will he change his strategy based on what tim told us? >> he was a witness before the grand jury, mr. parlatore, and he blamed another member of the legal team. the question was the fbi sent you notice, the archives sent you notice we wanted documents back. from the government's perspective, the trump team knew they had the documents, the trump team was slow or reluctant or obstructive in giving them

back. to get one of trump's lawyers before the grand jury who publicly criticizes another one of the lawyers -- >> who also went before the grand jury. >> and not only criticize epsteyn but criticizing corcoran. i don't know what corcoran testified to but he's saying this is what corcoran did, this is what he should have described it as. it just does not make any sense he's revealing that. maybe he's just pissed off and wants to inflate himself. >> so we have jim trustee and john rally who are the lead attorneys. boris epshteyn is part of it and close to the president. there's a classified documents investigation but also a hush money payment investigation, the election interference both in georgia and a federal investigation. is it there trustee and mr. rally leading the team?

>> it's a lot more complicated than that. it's always more complicated when you have this many investigations. you also have joe tacopino and susan necklasse but these two are fronting the special counsel's investigation which is interference in the 2020 election and the handling of classified documents. but it is truly extraordinary. now, tim did deny the reason he had to leave the legal team is because he had testified before the grand jury. but of course other attorneys on this team have also had to go before the grand jury. >> there's been a lot of turnover in trump's legal team. some of that is because issues had changed. you had attorneys for the impeachment investigations, the mueller investigation, rudy giuliani and sydney powell. i'm trying to get at how unusual is this? >> it's very unusual to have

this amount of turnover in a legal team, particularly for a high-profile client where there's a strong interest in having sort of a universal approach to how you're going to deal with this. i will say that i can't think of another situation where a high-profile client like this has so many cases rolling downhill at them. so it certainly is a uniquely challenging situation for any legal team. >> uniquely challenging, well put. appreciate you being here. other legal news just why, bryan kohberger, the suspect in last year's fatal stabbing of four university of idaho students has just pleaded not guilty. he remained silent at his arraignment hearing. the judge entering the plea. team biden says it is taking a very close look at florida as it studies how to expand its 2024 map.

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ron desantis sees his record as florida governor as his springboard to the presidency, but team biden sees the same record as an opening to perhaps target florida's 30 electoral votes next year. after speaking to a dozen top democratic officials, biden bets desantis/florida blueprint will help him flip the sunshine state and win re-election. the president's disdain for governor desantis is no secret. >> over 1.1 million people in

florida would be eligible for medicaid if governor desantis just said i agree to expand it. what's going on in florida is, as my mother would say, close to sinful. it's just terrible what they're doing. >> i had a lot of ron desantis jokes ready, but mickey mouse beat the hell out of him and got there first. >> you also in your piece very smartly lay out florida democrats are known more for dysfunction than winning. this is a state, we can put up on the screen, if you look at the demographics and other key battleground states, you can say actio okay, if democrats do it right, you can build the biden coalition out of those numbers. however, florida has not been kind to democrats at the state level or two republican senators now. republican governor now. democrats used to win those offices. it's been a while. >> it has been a while. the only democrat to have won

statewide in over a decade is nikki fried who won for agriculture commissioner. she ran for governor last year, and now she's the state democratic chair. for the biden folks, this is not just about florida. it is about florida and trying to see whether they have the opportunity to compete there. but it's a bigger thing than that. to be able to say that ron desantis' legislative record, the bills that he signed into law on aabortion, immigration, lgbtq rights, gun laws, all of those things are a vision of what would be in washington if a republican were elected president, whether it's ron desantis or someone else. and for biden, that is a way of talking about all of this all around the country, trying to run that against republicans and say this is serious. this is what it looks like. >> if you look at that list, he signed a six-week abortion ban,

ended a concealed weapons, banned gender-affirming care for youth, he blocked the advance placement american studies program, prohibited vaccine mandates. you look at joe biden and you think about the biden coalition. women, especially suburban republican women who voted republican in the past, young people, it's right there. the question is can you do it in florida. >> i think that's the question. it's a state that's very consistently voted for republicans the last few cycles. democrats have invested a lot of time and money in there and not gotten the results. they were bolstered by the jacksonville mayor's race where a democrat won. the latino vote in florida is a problem for democrats. there was a lot of support for former president trump. so there's a lot of pieces to this. and i think the primary focus is going to be in the states we know, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona and georgia, but they are categorizing

florida and north carolina as possible expansion. >> you list arizona and georgia in there because again they're all very different. i spent a lot of time looking at the states. they're all very different. but if you look and look at the margin of victory, george w. bush wins florida by five. barack obama wins by a decent margin, just barely wins it the second time. trump wins it, much more comfortably the second time around. but to your point, florida is a giant suburb. you can put the pieces together which makesing in so appealing. but democrats have said we can do this and have just failed. >> look, it's an unbelievably expensive state to campaign in. you've got to dump a ton of money so we'll see if they carry through on this strategy. they may look at the polls and decide their money is better spent elsewhere. yes, the record will be litigated by biden.

how will republicans who face desantis in the primary already go after that record? a lot of conservatives like how he dealt with abortion and immigration. will they say they will make him unelectable in the general election? that's going to be complicated. >> this morning, one of the democrats in the florida congressional delegation said democrats be careful, do not underestimate this man. >> he is data driven so he's going to look at the numbers. if you look at the national numbers, he's been going in the wrong direction. in the state numbers he's a little closer. so he's going to look at those numbers and test his messages. he's going to do all of those things because that's what i've just seen how he works. >> it's important democrats should listen to democrats closest to desantis as they watch him. if you're team biden and trying to put this math together, 30. if you can get 30 electoral

votes it's an addition for you but it's a subtraction from them so you test it. the question is when do you have to make that decision about spending what is a boatload of dimes. >> everyone has made a good point that they haven't gotten the results recently, so you would have to start thinking is this more of a national thing where you can talk to people on the left or people who are not -- who are concerned about what ron desantis is doing and really bring that to women elsewhere but not really work in florida. when you look at the -- especially the latino base there, there are a lot of concerns about socialism and things like that and those kinds of anti-socialism messages are working very well there and you saw that in the last election. >> how dependent is the biden testing? >> first of all, they are taking a cautious approach to the testing here, putting in a little bit of money. they'll see if they put in more money. but a big part of this is just

playing desantis and trump off against each other and that is hugely a goal for the democrats. they are salivating over all of those attacks they make against each other. there was a moment that donald trump took a shot at ron desantis over a tort reform bill that trump said was a scam. part of the way that that happened was that a big biden donor reached out to roger stone, the trump advisor, and said, hey, can you make this happen? and it happened. that's the kind of thing that's going on here. one of the senior democratic operatives that i talked to said, look, we'd rather have trump. we hate desantis just as much, but to go at them -- to see them go at each other makes democrats feel as good as they could feel. just moments ago the man charged with murdering four

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tom carper will retire next year. he announced that decision last hour in wilmington. the 76-year-old thanked president joe biden for his friendship and support. lizzo taking time during a nebraska concert to make clear she opposes a major new law there. nebraska's governor will sign a twelve-week abortion ban into law. also part of that legislation, lemts on transgender youth from receiving gender-affirming care. >> you are valid. you deserve to be here. these laws are not real. you are what's real. and you deserve to be protected. >> thanks for your time today, hope to see you tomorrow. "cnn news central" starts right now. ten days to a potential disaster. the deadline for a debt deal is creeping closer. the two sides ar