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behave me a different version of "simple man." >> reporter: senators eager not to repeat mistakes of the past. >> we cannot afford to be as late to responsibly regulating generative ai as we have been to social media. because the consequences, both positive and negative, will exceed those of social media by orders of magnitude. >> and rare consensus today on capitol hill that republicans and democrats agreeing something has to be done about this really powerful technology. what that is remains to be seen. but we are going to be hearing a lot more about this in the months and years to come. >> donie o'sullivan, thank you very much. and to our viewers, thanks so much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next, ukraine shoots down every single russian missile as russian forces are said to be retreating around bakhmut. new video into "outfront" tonight of them crawling.
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you'll see them crawling on hands and knees, deserting an area. we're live on the ground tonight. plus, new pictures from the violent attack at congressman gerry connolly's office that sent two staffers to the hospital. congressman connolly is "outfront." and the new york mayor publicly breaking with president biden as angry parents demand to know why school gymnasiums may be closed down to become the new home for migrants. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, every single russian rocket shot down by ukraine today. as some of putin's forces are on the run on the front lines. these are two major developments tonight in the great european war. first, russian president vladimir putin firing a total of 18 missiles at ukraine. take a look at that new video there. it's one of the interceptions. ukrainian officials say they shot down every single one of those missiles down. you see one of them right there. it's like lightning in the sky. it's an important show of how sophisticated ukraine's defense capabilities have actually become. in fact, the only damage was from the falling debris from th
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interceptors which set some vehicles on fire and damaged the city zoo. u.s. officials telling cnn that russia's new strategy is to fire a barrage of missiles at ukraine all at once in the hopes that they will overwhelm ukraine's air defenses and that some will break through. when, when you think wabout it, is an incredibly costly solution for russia. the downed missiles come as putin's forces are retreating in areas north and south of bakhmut, according to the ukrainian deputy defense minister. we've got new video to show you from one of these areas. what you're looking at here are russian forces. they're actually on their hands and knees here. they're crawling trying to avoid being hit and spotted on their way out. so as you're watching that, they're crawling out of an area near bakhmut. this was filmed a little bit further south of bakhmut. what you're looking at here is
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ukraine taking out what's been described as a russian electronic warfare station that was installed on top of some silos. so that's that smoke and explosion that you see there. so it's a precision strike at that target. it comes as one of putin's top allies who has been crucial to putin's war effort is facing significant questions about the stability of his regime because belarusian president alexander lukashenko, we've got some new video from today, appearing to show his hand bandaged and his voice at times sounds very hoarse and strained. this is significant because it comes after several missed appearances at major public events. lukashenko is very important. of course, he controls the entire northern border of ukraine. he's threatened nuclear actions against ukraine. he's let putin's forces invade ukraine. he's now providing sanctuary and base use for putin's air force. in a moment i'm going to speak to the belarusian opposition
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leader sviatlana tsikhanouskaya who has been sentenced to 15 years in prison in absentia. nic, what is the latest there? >> reporter: yeah, one of the places to watch here right now is bakhmut. why? because it's been such an intense fight. but there are lessons here for the ukrainian commanders. what they are trying to do right now is encircle bakhmut. and what are the lessons that they're learning? that that fight in the meat grinder of the city itself is a tough fight, even the russians still having some advantage there where the fight is easier, if you will, and it ain't easy really where it is less bloody than inside the city. it is outside in the countryside where it's easier to advance. there are lessons going on in bakhmut as the ukrainian commanders here consider the coming counteroffensive. >> on bakhmut's destroyed streets, two ukrainian soldiers bolster flagging spirits with dark humor.
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oh, that boom, boom, boom, is that on us, one says. oh, no, the other jokes, we're enchanted, they're not for us. russia's push for the remaining ukrainian-controlled high-rises around them has not relented despite recent successes taking ground north and south of the meat grinder town. in a field hospital nearby, troops concussed by heavy russian shelling inside bakhmut. how was the fight in bakhmut compared to other places? call sign white, a 47-year-old former warehouse manager, tells us bakhmut is his hardest battle yet. it's hell, he says. how is the morale at the front line? he pauses, sighs, and whispers, it's hard. tanks, too, are getting chewed up in the bakhmut meat grinder. this soviet-era t-72 blasted by
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shelling there, repairs made in hedge rows because workshops are getting targeted. the shrapnel holes don't matter, this tank commander tells us. what's important is the engine and the reactive armor. locations of repair hideaways like this one are a closely guarded secret. once the counteroffensive begins, they will be even more vital to keep the military and its machines moving. in a combat bunker buried outside bakhmut, troops have no idea when or where the big offensive will come. >> they're monitoring the battlefield from here. we can't show you the screens that they're looking down from drones. as soon as a russian soldier puts his head up and moves, you see it. >> reporter: morale here high because they recently made gains across fields surrounding the town. early success in the coming counteroffensive will be
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critical, the lessons of bakhmut, momentum and motivation is all. >> the air raid sirens are going off right now, and i've lost track of how many times they've gone off. that's because this area is close to the front line. and it's incredibly active. commanders are looking for russia to pull out forces from front lines to bring them and reinforce bakhmut. and if they do that, if the russians weaken defenses and some parts of the front line, this is where you may see the ukrainian military leadership say, okay, that's the weak spot now, that's where we can attack, that's an opportunity for the counteroffensive. right now no one on the ground knows that. >> all right, nic, thank you very much from eastern ukraine tonight. i want to go to the retired u.s. army lieutenant hertling. let me just ask you, the implication there is that the soldiers, they don't know when,
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they don't know where, the soldiers on the ground, but that perhaps it may be that ukraine is literally waiting to see where russia pulls and moves troops away, and then creates the counteroffensive there. do you think that's what's happening? i know that obviously you've written an op-ed talking about why this seems to have been taking so long, this much-anticipated counteroffensive. >> there was so much in nic's report just now from a military perspective that would be glossed over by anyone else. but i got to tell you, what he's talking about is, yes, they are looking for activity within the russian lines so the ukrainians can use it to their advantage. but i got to tell you, i believe that the ukrainians have already plotted their contingency operations for their offense. they know where they're going to go. they just want to get some last-minute information, some intelligence so they can shape the penetrations all along the front lines. some of it may be in that donbas area near bakhmut.
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but i would suggest, we're talking about a several-hundred-kilometer frontage. they're going to go in a lot of different places. but great report by nic. >> interesting you say a lot of different places. ukraine is saying just over the past few days that they've liberated substantial areas around bakhmut. this is a place that for nine months every day was at best three or four feet of a gain, and at worse was a complete stalemate. now we've got video of russian soldiers crawling out on their hands and knees. you do see some withdrawal. do you think that ukraine is making true gains right now? >> yeah, they certainly are. what we're talking about is i focused on that film that you had with the soldiers crawling. but the one that was more important to me was the precision strike on the electronic warfare. >> on that silo, yeah. >> because russia has attempted to pull ew assets closer to the front to try and interfere with ukrainian missiles and precision-guided equipment. the main target are those kind
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of jammers that can influence the rest of the battlefield. and the other thing i'd say, erin, while we're watching the small tactical fights of soldiers crawling around, the most important thing for the commander of the ukrainian force is not only getting his combat forces forward but to quickly follow them up with logistics forces. the piece of repairing the tank, that's exactly the kind of challenges you're going to have in combat to make sure those things keep running. >> and now the barrage of missiles overnight. ukraine successfully intercepted all 18 of them. when there's a missile attack from russia, they're throwing a lot at it hoping that some break through. and we understand that russia's doing this even more. they're using even more missiles in each attack, again, to try to just overwhelm the ukrainian air defenses. what do you make of this in light of what we know to be, you know, severe issues on the russian supply, military supply?
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>> there was an individual today that did a calculation of the cost of russia's attack last night, and calculating the cost of the different types of missiles, the drones, the ballistic rockets, estimated it was a cost of about 155 million u.s. dollars in ammunition that was fired last night. now, the ukrainians are firing a lot of expensive equipment back at them. but truthfully we've been saying this for a long time. i don't think russia can sustain this kind of attack any further. but right now they're testing out where the air defenses are, particularly the u.s. patriot defenses. they want to see where those defenders are and they're going after them. >> general hertling, thank you so much. >> a pleasure. thanks. and "outfront" now, the belarusian opposition leader sviatlana tsikhanouskaya. she was the main opposition candidate to lukashenko in the last belarusian election, an election the u.s. government
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called fraudulent with widespread vote rigging by lukashenko. her husband is now serving 18 years in prison in belarus. svetlana has been sentenced to 15 years in prison and is in exile. i'm very glad to speak to you again. i showed earlier and i want to show again the latest images, the video that we have of lukashenko. we see his arm bandaged there, and there have been a lot of rumors about his health these past few days. what are you hearing? >> we also hear rumors about lukashenko's health. he disappears from public for six days. and even propaganda didn't know how to command his disappearance. but then he looked very sick. lukashenko, like every dictator, likes to control everything and to make the impression that he is invincible or most immortal.
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but his disappearance sparked discussion in society, what if he dies. and we feel that many people around him are also waiting for the moment of change and for ukrainian forces, it means only one thing. we should be prepared for every scenario. on the one hand, to pave the path to democracy, on the other hand, to prevent russia from interfering. and of course we need the international community to be proactive and fast because this moment can come just in the nearest future. >> and you talk about russia's role here. obviously, lukashenko has been crucial to putin. do you believe putin has a plan in place for a successor to lukashenko if something were to happen to him at this point? >> actually, we think that just
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in case lukashenko disappears, there will be movement inside the regime because lukashenko's constitution doesn't regulate who will be after him. and for sure we can expect that russia would like continue control belarus, and they maybe try to put some pro-russian person instead of lukashenko. but, of course -- will accept this new person. and it will be a situation of destabilization in belarus. and actually from the side of the forces, we will have to try to install communication with democracy-oriented people in the power of lukashenko and also with people to mobilize people. >> all right, svetlana, thank
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you so much. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. and, next "outfront," an intruder slipping by the secret service, entering the home of america's national security adviser, eventually coming face to face with jake sullivan. how did this happen? plus, new pictures into "outfront" tonight of a violent attack inside congressman gerry connolly's office. two of his staffers hospitalized and congressman connolly is next. and former president obama, like we've never heard him speak before, on the toll the presidency took on his personal life. >> i did not fully appreciate, i think, as engaged of a father as i was, the degree of stress and tension for her. i was born on the south side of chicago. it has been a long roaoad, but t now i'm working for schwab. i love to help people understand the world through their lens
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tonight, the secret service is investigating how an intruder got into the home of a national security adviser jake sullivan undetected by agents guarding him home. it happened in the middle of the night in washington. sullivan actually came face to face with the intruder in the middle of the night in his home. the intruder then left without sullivan's 24/7 surveillance detection noticing. what more do you know about how this man, it was a man, was able
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to get past the agents and into sullivan's house. >> the how is exactly what the secret service is now investigating. the national security adviser, he is a 24/7 secret service detail including agents posted outside of his home guarding that home. and yet somehow in the middle of the night late last month, an unknown man entered that home without those secret service agents noticing that he had entered the home. he came face to face, as you said, with the national security adviser who essentially was able to get him to leave. a source familiar with the matter says that sullivan told investigators he believes the man was intoxicated, the man was not threatening in any way. and apparently he left before secret service agents were alerted to the intrusion by sullivan. now, the secret service is investigating this. their spokesman says while the protectee was unharmed, we are seeing this matter seriously and have opened a comprehensive
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mission assurance investigation to review all facets of what occurred. any deviation from our protected protocols is unacceptable, and if discovered, personnel will be held accountable. and in the meantime, that spokesman says that the secret service has already made changes to its posture in terms of adding additional layers of security outside of sullivan's home. in terms of making sure that the national security adviser, again, one of the most important people in the federal government advising the president on national security matters, remains safe. >> jeremy, thank you very much. and we also have new images tonight into "outfront" of another threat to a u.s. government official. this was the destruction left behind after that attack inside congressman gerry connolly's office in fairfax, virginia. you see the smashed glass, blood-stained carpets, supplies thrown across the room. the 49-year-old suspect was accused of striking two of the congressman's staffers with a metal bat, including an intern was there for the first day. you see the blood and the broken glass all from that bat. the suspect arraigned today on felony charges including
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aggravated malicious wounding and hate crime assault. that last charge relates to this incident before the attack at the congressman's office when he allegedly smashed a car windshield after asking her, are you white. "outfront" now, democratic congressman gerry connolly of virginia. these images of your office, i think for anybody watching, just bring this home. this is a suburban office building, right? your staffers were there just on a regular day. someone comes in with a bat, all that, the destruction, the broken glass, the broken office equipment, the blood, the injuries, it's absolutely terrifying. i know that you were at the hospital with both of your aides who was attacked. how are they? >> the good news is they've been released from the hospital, which means that i hope that the worst that could happen from their injuries is not going to happen. so they are on the road to
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physical recovery. but now the hard work begins, which is the recovery from the psychic wounds and the trauma that was inflicted yes long-ter. >> i know that this office is only six people. it's a close-knit group. the intern was just beginning her internship. but the suspect came in looking for you specifically. this person said they were looking for you, and then obviously they continued with this terrible attack. but how does this make you feel knowing someone was coming in there with this intent? >> i've always been fatalistic about threats to me. but i'm not fatalistic about threats to my staff or my family. and it's a sad commentary that we now have to accept as a price of public service threats to everybody associated with us. and i think it does underscore why we've got to tone down
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rhetoric, tone down images, and make sure we never normalize violence in our domestic politics. >> and, yet, there has been a normalization. that's part of the problem here. you heard jeremy diamond reporting that that intruder recently entered the u.s. national security adviser jake sullivan's home in the middle of the night. he runs into this person. the secret service didn't detect it. he didn't feel that this person was threatening. but obviously it's still scary that it happened. but it comes as we are seeing a sharp uptick in cases that do have a clear, targeted motivation. the man who broke into pelosi's san francisco house and attacked paul pelosi with a hammer. he spent days in the hospital. the man who assaulted angie craig in the elevator of her apartment building in washington. i remember talking to her about that. she's trying to throw coffee on someone just to try to protect her family in that apartment. a staffer for senator rand paul stabbed in washington. and there are many more
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incidents in recent months. what do you think is fueling all of this, congressman? >> i honestly believe that donald trump made violence part of his schtick. at rallies, you may recall, he actually talked about protesters and saying, in my day, we'd take them out and beat them up, enabling violence and almost sanctioning it. he walked around at one point with a baseball bat, not an image of peace and tranquility and conciliation. he, of course, incited the violence of january 6th, and some of his enablers here in congress have called those insurrectionists who perpetrated enormous violence on police forces and would've done the same on members of congress, patriots or just, you know, overexcited tourists. when you say something like that, that's not true.
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and it is normalizing and enabling violence. and for people living on the edge mentally, what they're hearing is a steady stream of violence is an acceptable route to express yourself or your anger. and i think, you know, we have to address that. that cannot be okay in a constitutional democracy like america. >> all right, congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. and i'm glad both of your staffers are okay, at least as you say, physically tonight. , and next, new york city's mayor at odds now with president biden. he's struggling with a surge of migrants and now facing backlash from new yorkers. >> we welcome them, just not to our school. and it's about our kids' safety. that's what we're worried about the most. plus, shocking footage shows the moment a san francisco security guard fatally shoots a shoplifter. and now the d.a. under pressure after opting not to press charges.
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days since title 42 was lifted, that allowed border officials to quickly expel migrants. in the meantime in new york, mayor eric adams is disagreeing, and, moreover, blaming biden for what's happening in his city. he says the surging number of migrants arriving in new york city is out of control, and adams says that biden and his administration are mia on a plan to address it. this comes as adams is now off biden's 2024 advisory board amid this criticism. as adams himself comes under fire for putting about 300 migrants in gyms at current and former schools across the city. athena jones is "outfront" with more. >> i think they tried to sort of just slip this through without giving people really a chance to respond. >> i would like other places to be considered.
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our school is tiny. we can barely fit in it as it is. >> reporter: parents of children who attend this elementary school in brooklyn, new york, concerned about mayor eric adams' plan to potentially house migrants in 20 school gyms across the city. adams says the migrants would not interact with students at the schools. one parent who decided to monitor the school overnight over concern that's what he thought migrants could arrive. >> we're not against them, we're all welcome, just not to our school next to our children where they will be exposed to this. we don't know what exactly they're going to do. >> reporter: in another part of brooklyn, coney island community members also complained the city failed to notify them of a plan to use a detached school gym there for migrants. the facility has the capacity to house 100 people. and when cnn visited today without our camera, it was filled wall to wall with cots and appeared to be housing
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single-adult migrants. >> anything is possible. we not knowing nothing about these people and where they came from. we want to protect us. my message for the mayor and the governor, y'all should be ashamed of y'allself to not recognize the protection for our babies. >> reporter: with hundreds of asylumseekers arriving in new york city every day, more than 4,200 in the last week alone, officials say the city is out of space. more than 65,000 asylumseekers have arrived since last spring including the highly publicized buses full of migrants from border states. announced the opening of its ninth large-scale humanitarian relief center, which will double as the city's first asylum-seeker arrival center. for months, mayor adams has urged the federal government to provide more support to the city as it deals with what is usually a federal responsibility, immigration. >> upon several different conversations i had with the
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president and meeting with his team, communicating with his team, sending out how urgent this is over the last few months, but we're not getting the support that we deserve here in new york city. >> we're working very closely with cities and communities along the border and in the interior of the united states. we need the system fixed. >> reporter: and while border encounters may be falling, the humanitarian crisis shows no sign of abating. in new york and other cities far from the border. given what the mayor is calling an ongoing crisis, new york officials say everything is on the table when it comes to housing migrants, not just school gyms. they're already using a gym in a former police academy, are considering a national park, and creedmoor, a state psychiatric facility. >> athena, thank you very much reporting from new york. i want to go now to longtime democratic strategist james
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carville. that is a fascinating schism you're seeing. mayor adams is publicly calling out president biden. then he's left off the biden 2024 campaign advisory board amid this criticism. the biden campaign, for now, is saying president biden counts mayor adams as a friend and partner. they're not giving anything out on this, yet. but how serious is this rift? >> first of all, this shouldn't be airing on cnn or axios or anywhere else. the leader of the democrats in the senate is senator schumer from new york. hakeem jeffries is from new york. it's not like somebody got to get somebody else and they got to figure this out and explain what's going on. of course, at the end of the day, it's about resources. when is it not about resources? but, the white house and the governmental relations office,
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what are they doing? the congressional relations office. i mean, somebody ought to be able to fix this and get the kind of help and coordination that we need here. i know plenty people, my friend reverend sharpton had to mediate between the two of them. ritchie torres is one of the more talented young people in american politics. but somebody's got to step in here and figure out how to resolve these issues. this country has 3.4% unemployment. people are dying to come here. >> and, yet, you're saying all these things, these things should be happening. of course, the glaring reality is that they aren't. and also, when you think about it, james, mayor adams, he loved president biden. he wanted everyone to know how close they were. so just let me show everybody where we were in january of 2022. >> i'm sure if you were to ask him what is his favorite mayor, he'd clearly tell you it's eric. >> okay, that's where we were in
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january of '22. and now, james, here's where we are. >> the president and the white house has failed new york city on this issue. >> where the heck is the president of the united states? >> that is a good question. no city should be carrying this burden. it's a national problem, and it needs a national solution. >> all right. i mean, that's bad. it's not just him. democratic mayor adams, the largest city of new york. you've got the mayors of los angeles, denver and houston, all of them democratic mayors, they're demanding a meeting with biden. they want to talk about the issue of migrants. so, what is happening here? this is a division within the democratic party. there's no question team biden didn't want. >> first of all, at the end of the day, it's about what most things are in politics. they're looking for more resources. by resources, i mean money. and i just think after family
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squabble that kind of went public, i think somebody could've cut this off before the white house, some of the congressional leadership. we just, in defense of the president, he's got a fairly full plate here. and maybe the white house staff could've seen this coming and help cut it off. i don't know, but there's a lot of people with a lot of jobs. >> yeah, look, it's a totally fair point. i'm just wondering do you think that what this may be exposing is that maybe they thought the democratic base or the democrats in these big cities would feel one way. but then when they were presented with migrants in their schools, they realized they felt a different way. and maybe the politics of this were totally misread by the biden administration. >> maybe, but my point is, of course you have a lot of people who want to come to the country, they want to go to places where jobs are, new york, denver, los
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angeles, places like that. this could have been addressed a long time ago. i don't know quite how we got to the point where you have the mayor of the largest city in the country in a kind of public spat with his brother democrat who's the president of the united states i'm just saying congressional leadership, the people that knew this was coming, white house staff. and you wake up one morning, and you read the stories and you go, hey, it's kind of like the manager of the 1961 mets said, hey, can anybody here play this game. this is not something that's intractable and unsolvable problem. it can be addressed. and i suspect it'll get addressed here in the next three or four days. >> all right. well, thank you very much, james. i always appreciate it. it's good to see you. >> all right, erin, you bet. next, protesters taking to the streets after a san francisco security guard fatally
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tonight, no charges for san francisco security guard who shot and killed a suspected shoplifter at walgreens. the district attorney declining to press charges, saying it was self-defense after the perpetrator allegedly threatened to stab the security guard. the decision to not press charges comes as downtown san francisco is facing issues with crime, homelessness, and drug abuse. veronica miracle is "outfront." >> justice for who? >> banko brown! >> reporter: who testers with signs reading "resaw the tape, banko was murdered." this is that tape. last month, a security guard at a san francisco walgreens is shoved, then fights with 4-year-old banko brown, who was suspected of shoplifting. at one point the guard puts brown in a chokehold. moments later near the exit, brown appears to move toward the guard who raises a gun and fires one shot, killing brown. the district attorney said this. >> we arrived at our conclusion that we were unable to proceed with criminal charges.
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>> reporter: protesters furious that the tape appears to show an unarmed brown shot over drug store items. >> i shared in that reaction, but, as i said, as a prosecutor, i could not stop there. >> reporter: d.a. brooke jenkins says this case goes beyond the tape. her office releasing the police interview of the security guard 33-year-old michael anthony. >> so, when i went for the aisle, she attacked. >> reporter: anthony says he told brown who the d.a. identified as a transgender man, that he was going to let him go. anthony misgenders brown during the interview. >> once i let go, i stood back because the whole time we were wrestling, she was saying that she was going to stab me. and that's what really put the fear in my heart. >> reporter: anthony says he had his weapon in hand when the struggle ended near the exit. >> i didn't know what she was planning on doing, but it turns
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out her intentions was to try to spit on me. and, um, by that reaction, by her turning around and advancing towards me, that's when i lifted it and shot once. >> reporter: police said brown did not have a knife. in declining to charge d.a. brooke jenkins says it would be hard to disprove self-defense. >> we have to believe at the time that we filed criminal charges against anyone for any crime that we can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. >> reporter: the case comes as san francisco deals with the perception that property crime is out of control. police data shows a 23% year-to-year spike in the first two years of the pandemic, but overall still down nearly 6% in 2022, compared to prepandemic levels in 2019. activists say what happened to brown is the symptom of a larger problem. >> banko was murdered because of his crime of being hungry. we know that banko brown was
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murdered for the crime of being homeless. >> reporter: and erin, i spoke with the family's attorney right after the video was released. he said that the security guard was the aggressor that he created the confrontation, he had the weapon. so there was no justification for the shooting. he says the family is disturbed that there has been no prosecution, and they plan on filing a wrongful-death lawsuit against the security guard, his employer, and walgreens. erin? >> all right, veronica, thank you very much from san francisco tonight. next, elon musk has a new warning about artificial intelligence. our harry enten is going to break down the numbers about just how much ai has already massively transformed our world. plus, former president obama in a revealing new interview speaking out about his marriage while in the white house. >> let me just say this. it sure helps to be out of the white house.
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chatgpt issued this ominous warning to senators today. >> my worse fears are causing significant -- we the field in the industry of technology cause significant harm to the world. >> that's sam altman, and that's his honest view. elon musk weighing in with his own concerns tonight. >> i think it's very much a double-edged sword. i think there's a strong probability it will make life much better and we'll have an age of abundance, and there's some chance that it goes wrong and destroys humanity. hopefully that chance is small, but it's not zero. >> harry enton is out front. let's start with chatgpt is really new. this is six months ago or something we heard the first conversations, and it has already changed the world. >> it's already changed the world. it debuted towards the end of
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last year and now the number of visits worldwide in the month of april topped over a billion in just a short period of time, 1.8. and that makes it the 17th most visited website worldwide. it just went from zero to this mammoth growth so rapidly. >> which is incredible. and by the way, that's the one others are talking about. there's so many other ones people are using and discussing and that's indicative that's it's just ballooning. we heard about ai is going to change the world, it's going to have innovation, but obviously you heard from sam altman said. sam altman said what he really thinks and this is the guy sort of the brains behind all this. when americans look at this do they have this fear? >> at this particular point the plurality of americans believe ai for the future of society is actually a bad thing instead of a good thing. it's a close match if you see 46% say a bad thing versus 48%
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say a good thing. there are differences in the public. older folks are more skeptical than younger folks. people more familiar are less skeptical than people more familiar, but i will just say that there's clearly some sk skepticism out there going on. >> i guess have a skepticism it's impossible to put a genie back in the bottle, impossible to control something like this by the very definition what it is. that's just my personal fears. but do americans support government regulation on this over party lines? >> overwhelming americans believe it's important there to be government regulation of ai. 76% say yes, 20% say, no, and this is overwhelmingly something we see across party lines. democrats agree on this, republicans agree on this, young people agree on this, old people agree on this. and, you know, i will point out, again, even if you think ai is a
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good thing for the future, even there you believe government regulation is important. even if you think ai is a good thing, government regulation is important, it's going to be interesting to see if the government actually does get involved and how they do. >> and right and as i said again by its very nature it can be accomplished. thank you so much. and coming up on ac 360 the north carolina legislature is expected to vote next hour as republicans attempt to override the governor's veto of a newly passed strict anti-abortion law. the margin is razor thin and ac 360 will have those results for you. meantime next former president obama speaking candidly on the toll the white house took on his marriage and his family.
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tonight, barack obama opens up about his marriage. the former president was speaking candidly about the strain the presidency put on his marriage to michelle obama. >> let me just say this, it sure helps to be out of the white house. i did not fully appreciate, i think, as engaged as a father as
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i was the degree of stress and tension for her. >> a rare glimpse into the former president's private life in the white house. it's not the first time the obamas have discussed their marriage publicly, but, you know, the former first lady she made an incredibly candid admission of her own recently. remember this. >> there were ten years where i couldn't stand my husband, you know? >> you say that. >> ten whole years. and guess when it happened? when those kids were little. >> it's amazing to hear them talk so epenly and take the risk of doing that, the vulnerability and knowing it would connect with so many. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" begins now. good evening. tonight we are seeing the latest front line in the battle over abortion in america in north carolina. we're waiting right now for republican lawmakers in that state to reaffirm a new abortion bill that the