quote, a lawnsman. that's what i do. mowing a lawn is one of the great feelings i have in life. he says it helps me clear his mind and think of new plays, feel good about what he accomplishes, neither makes money or saves money. then harbaugh going deep and nostalgic with this reflection, it makes me sad sometimes when i drive around ann arbor and it used to be kids mowing the lawns, i was out that kid out mowing lawns earning money, now it's a truck and crew at every house. if you weren't a super important celebrity tv anchor news woman, what would you be doing? >> i'm going to answer that question but i do know someone who loves mowing lawns and he is sitting to my left. >> i don't want to be like jim harbaugh, but i agree, it's fulfilling. >> you do. >> stop it. >> what would i be? my husband and i played this game at a lunch this weekend, julia child. i love to cook, she lived in paris and she had a great marriage. all important things in life. >> can i come back tomorrow? >> you can come back tomorrow.

>> let's do it. >> cnn "news central" starts now. ♪ he shared photos of guns, targets, ammunition boxes and a tactical vest. this morning the disturbing social media posts from the gunman who murdered eight people at a texas mall. a pivotal meeting today, an attempt to keep the debt ceiling from crashing down. president biden is sitting down with top congressional leaders from both parties, but can they hammer out a deal before the u.s. goes into a catastrophic default? king pinning terrorist, that is who israel said it was targeting in an overnight military strike in gaza. now at least 13 people are dead. these major stories and many more all coming in to cnn "news central." ♪

we begin with today's high stakes meeting amid a resolving the debt ceiling standoff. if there is no deal it could lead to financial disaster. in just a few hours president biden will meet at the white house with these four congressional leaders, house speaker kevin mccarthy, senate majority leader chuck schumer, minority leader -- we are less than a month away from a potential default which would be felt by millions of americans in lost jobs, higher borrowing costs, delayed benefits and the plunging stock market. sources tell cnn that treasury secretary janet yellen has been making calls to ceos and business leaders warning them about the dire economic consequences of a default. despite this the white house says president biden stance has not changed nor have the republicans'.

he says congress must raise the debt limit without conditions. a top official tells cnn there is no plan b. we're covering all these angles of this standoff. cnn's lauren fox is on capitol hill and arlette saenz is at the white house. i'm going to start with you, lauren. what is speaker mccarthy's strategy when you have biden saying, look, i'm sticking with plan a, there is no plan b? >> reporter: today when the speaker goes into this meeting he is going in with the backing of most of his republican conference and the republican senate. that is key, sara, because as he walks into this meeting today he has a lot more leverage than anyone in that room really expected him to have months ago when he had a 15-round fight to become the next speaker of the house. he's passed a law that cuts spending as well as increases the debt ceiling, that bill of course going nowhere in the democratic-controlled senate, but he also is getting biden back to the negotiating table.

that was his goal all along. allies and aides who are close to the speaker tell me that he has been preparing, having conversations with a wide swath of members from all ideological spectrums in his conference knowing that when he goes into this meeting he has a lot of leverage. he also has a lot of runway from members who believe that he is going to be able to fight for the best deal he can get them. dusty johnson who is a republican from south dakota, a close ally of the speaker, told me yesterday, quote, the totality of the deal has to make real and substantial change to how our country spends and borrows, but johnson told me he does believe there are many ways to get there. of course, teetering on the edge of all of this is the speaker's balancing act between keeping his job and holding on to that speaker's gavel as well as ensuring that the country does not default on its debt. obviously there are some conservatives who may not be happy about any deal brokered, but we should note don't expect

any major breakthroughs today. this is really the beginning of a much longer dance, sara. >> okay. we just heard from lauren fox there. they are happy to at least be at the negotiating table but the question here is will president biden negotiate and will the republicans negotiate their stance as well. what's biden's plan at this point or strategy? >> reporter: well, sara, president biden is heading into this meeting intent on holding firm for his call for a clean debt ceiling increase. he heads into the meeting in lockstep with democratic leaders, hakeem jeffrey over in the house and senator chuck schumer in the senate. one thing heading into this meeting is officials have said that this is not a negotiation, instead it's a discussion on the path forward. they believe precedent is on their side in congress having increased the debt limit without conditions in the past. one of the president's top economic advisers say that -- says that they only see one way out of this impasse.

>> there is no plan b, our plan is for congress to act to address the debt limit without conditions, just like they have done 78 times in the past, just like they did three times under president trump. >> reporter: and so heading into this meeting the president is hoping that there can be discussions on two tracks, first he wants to see a clean increase to the debt ceiling or a suspension of the debt ceiling, and then the white house says he is open to having discussions and negotiations about a spending framework, other cuts that could be made, but they insist that they want to see this all conducted on separate tracks. now, additionally, president biden in the coming days plans to take aim and try to pressure some house republicans hopes to peel them off to their side in this matter. he will be travel to the hudson valley in new york, in the backyard of a republican congressman who won a biden district. but one thing that is clear in this moment is that this meeting really reflects one of the most high stakes moments in this era

of divided government with the future of the u.s. economy hanging in the balance. >> and i think that is the point. the future of the u.s. economy is hanging in the balance if they do not get to a deal. thank you so much. if congress doesn't get that deal, doesn't raise the debt ceiling, the government will hit what has been deemed the x date, the date the government has exhausted its cash and borrowing capacity because it's not legally allowed to go beyond the national debt which stands right now over $31.4 trillion. if that happens the question then becomes what does the freshly department do about it? they may be left with the hard task of setting a list of priorities, picking and choosing which bills to pay first. it's never happened to this prioritization is untested, but we do know that back during the 2011 debt crisis treasury and the fed came up with a contingency plan and first and foremost in that plan it was clear they wanted to pay principal and interest on

treasury securities first. the thinking there not making good on those commitments could trigger global financial turmoil as investors might start fleeing treasuries and treasuries serve as a building block for the financial system. paying social security benefits, 66 million americans get paid out monthly. also making medicare payments, more than 65 million people are enrolled in that. and the pay in benefits for some 2 million federal workers, 1.4 million active duty military members. and the list, it doesn't end there. now, the treasury secretary actually warns a plan like this, it still isn't a fix, it still means default. >> we believe -- i believe that prioritization of payments, as you said, is default by another name. it's simply a recipe for economic and financial catastrophe to think we can pay

some of our bills and not all of them. >> and to add more uncertainty yellen also warns this, our systems are built to pay all of our bills on time and to not pick and choose which bills to pay. so it might not even work because the system might not be set up that way. some experts say it might not be up to treasury in the end. the power of the federal purse lies with of course congress so from start to finish the problem, the mess and the eventual cleanup may land on them. john? >> a really good explanation. new overnight disturbing social media posts from the man who allegedly murdered eight people at a texas mall. they reveal an obsession with guns and mass shootings. he shared photos of various firearms, targets, ammunition boxes. one post includes a picture of a tactical vest that investigators say he wore during the killing. other photos show the outlet mall weeks before the massacre, including a screenshot noting what times of day the area was

busiest. cnn security correspondent josh campbell is on the scene in allen, texas. this really fills in the picture, josh. >> reporter: it certainly does, john. we've been reporting from law enforcement sources about this suspect's disturbing social media footprint. we're now seeing that for ourselves on this russian social media site that a source tells me is believed to be owned by the shooter. it is replete with vial material, the suspect describing his obsession over nazis, his obsession over weapons. he actually praises past mass shooters in posts, he describes himself as an inn cell which is a term to describe men who blame women and society for their lack of romantic success. just so chilling, it appears that this suspect conducted preattack reconnaissance at this mall behind me. we see a photo of the parking lot as well as a google map which he researched to try to determine what was the busiest time of day for this mass

shooting. a law enforcement source tells me they have not yet filled out a full picture this have suspect but extremism certainly seems to be the driving ideology here. >> all of it is chilling, but to chilling that this shooter was looking at past mass shooters. one follows another follows another, they are in a cycle. josh, i also understand you're learning more about the victims. >> reporter: that's right. obviously so important to focus on those whose lives were lost in the massacre. we have learned the identities of all eight. they include christian lacour who was a security guard here at this mall, also 32-year-old elio cumana-rivas as well as aishwarya thatikonda. this attack also taking the lives of children, a local school district here tells us that two sisters, 11-year-old daniela mendoza and eight-year-old sofia mendoza also killed in this attack and family members, there was a set of parents as well as a young child also killed, that includes

37-year-old kyu sung cho, 35-year-old cindy cho and their 3-year-old, john, their 3-year-old james cho. that family leaves behind a 6-year-old because of a shooter with an ar-15, john, that family of four now a family of one. >> monstrous. josh campbell for us in allen, texas. josh, keep us posted when you learn new things. thank you. sara? on the heels of that shooting and nearly one year since the massacre in uvalde, a texas house panel has advanced a bill that would raise the legal age to purchase a semi-automatic weapon to 21 years old. two republican lawmakers joined democrats to make it happen in an 8-5 vote. the bill had been stalled in committee. applause broke out when the room advanced that bill. >> the 8 ayes, 5 nays.

>> the vote came unexpected after dozens of supporters crowded into the capital's rotunda and uvalde parents spoke out during an emotional press conference. many of the parents had been making the three-plus-hour drive to austin every single week to speak to lawmakers. >> i'm so sorry i'm not strong today. maybe that's what y'all need to see because at the end of every day i'm just a mom who wants my daughter back and a mom who doesn't want another mom to know my pain. >> that was kim rubio whose daughter was killed. right now state law allows texans as young as 18 years old to purchase ar-15-style rifles. the uvalde gunman purchased his ar-15 rifle days after his 18th birthday. advocates say this bill would have prevented him from making that purchase. the legislation faces an uphill

battle in the full texas state house and in the state senate. so this morning three islamic jihad commanders are among 13 palestinians killed after the israeli military struck multiple tafrgts in gaza overnight. israel says it was targeting kingpin terrorists but palestinian officials say five innocent women and four children were among those killed in the air strikes. hadas gold is live in israel for us. what more are you learning today about this? >> reporter: right now there is a sense of quiet tension in southern israel, all eyes are to the south to see what kind of response there will be in gaza in response to the air strikes that came as a surprise for many people here, happened around 2:00 a.m. overnight the israeli military was targeting islamic jihad, a military group mostly based in gaza. the authorities saying that three of their commanders, senior commanders, were killed, among them the commander in

chief of the islamic jihad. they are accused of coordinating attacks of the israelis, in response to the death of a prominent palestinian prisoner who had died after a prolonged hunger strike. we are learning that there were others killed as a result of these air strikes. you noted the women and children. many of these were families of these operatives. we're also learning of a prominent palestinian dentist who was killed as a result of these strikes. he actually also held russian citizenship. there is the question, though, of what will the response be and especially will hamas, the militant organization that really runs gaza, will they get involved? they've issued statements saying there will be a unified response from the militant factions, that there will be some sort of response to this, but the question will be if hamas gets involved what will that look like and that will turn into a much bigger and broader co

conflict. israeli military reservists have been called up and residents have been advised to stay close to the shelters until at least tomorrow, kate. >> hadas, thank you very much. john? tens of thousands of migrants gathering at the southern border in anticipation of the end of title 42, but a new battle is playing out thousands of miles away. a county in new york is furious over a plan to have migrants bused to its area. deliberations set to dlin in the civil rape trial against donald trump, the jury gets the case in just moments, a verdict could come as soon as today. the official end of the pandemic. three long years. dr. sanjay gupta joins us to explain why the lessons learned should spark new beginnings for your health.

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fort cavasos. you can see the sign being revamped for the ceremony. the new name sake is the korean and vietnam war hero who was born in texas. in 1982 he became the first hispanic four-star general. this is one of nine u.s. army installations being redesignated to get rid of old confederate monuments symbols. also this morning more than 150 migrants are waiting in multiple northern mexican states to cross into the united states, and beyond this official estimates -- officials estimate, rather, hundreds of thousands more from central america are on the way. the numbers are daunting in the final days of title 42. texas is putting up new wire barriers to try to close off some of the illegal crossing sites that have not been closed off previously. this is ahead of the pandemic era policy lifting on thursday. and currently 25,000 migrants

are in custody in immigration custody. each day 8,000 more try to enter and the crisis is not only escalating at the border, but also in other parts of the united states where migrants are being bused as we've discussed. dallas, denver, chicago, new york city, those are among the major locations where migrants are landing. cnn's polo sandoval joins us from orangeburg, new york. this is an interesting place. outside of new york city there is a battle that is unfolding right before your eyes there. tell us where it stands. >> reporter: and there certainly are politics at play here, kate, but it's important to point out that we don't know yet if or exactly just how many of the close to 38,000 asylum seekers that are still in new york city's care will take up the adams administration's offer to be relocated a short drive north of new york city to various communities that are certainly highlighting some of their concerns. as just yesterday we heard from the adams administration saying they are willing to pay to

relocate up to 300 asylum seekers temporarily to the communities in orange county or here where we are in rockland county. in fact, hotel property that you see behind me in orangeburg is one of those properties that's been identified by the adams administration as a place that they would like to house some of these asylum seekers if they choose to come here, but that's really sort of fueling some of the concerns on the ground in a community that is home to about 4,600 people, for example, as we heard from officials earlier this morning including in the neighboring county of orange county, the big concern is exactly what capacity these folks would have to take up employment, for example, during the temporary stay, not to mention many of the -- their infrastructure, for example, already maxed out. so that's why what we have seen in the last few days are these emergency declarations and some city officials really tapping into some of their zoning policies and laws to try to make it more difficult for the adams administration to send up those willing asylum seekers to some of these communities. as we heard from orange county

officials yesterday in their emergency declaration they're said that the adams administration is actively promoting this relocation, though i just heard from a city hall official just a few moments ago saying that they are not actually advertising anything, they simply want to make sure that the asylum seekers have all the information available to them before they take up this potential relocation. there is a lot of back and forth between local and county officials and the adams administration but at the crux of it all is still that lingering question of what these asylum seekers would be able to do in some of these communities in terms of employment. we have heard time and time again that most of them do not have that legal work authorization because of the bureaucracies and the backlogs so during their temporary stay the question is how would they be able to actually support themselves. the question we're trying to answer in the next few hours. >> polo sandoval in orangeburg, thank you so much. john? >> joining us now is rockland county executive ed day. mr. executive, polo, our reporter was just in your county, he is reporting you have declared a state of emergency to

block any of these migrants from coming. new york city mayor -- the new york city mayor eric adams still says the plans are in place to do this. where do things stand this morning? >> well, things stand very simply as this. first of all, a background to this, rockland county is not a sanctuary county, new york city is a sanctuary city, number one. number two, what's not being spoke of because the adams administration has not even reached out to us is we have people coming here already, we have a natural migration of people who have come to this country under this sad circumstances who have family and friends in rockland, they have settled here, but we can handle something like that, it's a drip and drab scenario to be frank with you, but even with that think of this, 1,000 children, 1,000 children in the east ram poe school district who can't be taught, the people don't have english as a second language capacity so we have children who can't be taught, we have an increase of 35% in foster care of children who were

unattached because the vetting was horribly done down at the border. this is really a mess and we work well with our local nonprofits, our immigration advocates who were with me yesterday to basically fully criticize the plan, i call it a reaction from the mayor. so as far as the residents are concerned we are not going to accept what essentially is a new york city shelter here in rockland county. in point of fact what they're trying to do the way it's been described secondhand is against the zoning because of the town of orange town and there will be a court case there and frankly if you force the issue what's happening is the law is being broken here. that's a criminal event. >> mr. executive. >> yes, sir. >> you said a lot and i want to take it piece by piece. >> no problem. >> the sanctuary city issue is apples and oranges. sanctuary cities has to do with jurisdictions enforcing legal status of migrants. the legal status of these migrants as far as we know are

not in question, they are asylum seekers which by law gives them legal status at least for now. the fact that new york city is a sanctuary city is a moot point. my question to you is you are criticizing mayor adams for his plan to move some of these migrants to your jurisdiction. what's your message to texas governor greg abbott who is removing them from texas and sending them here to new york? >> okay. john, i'm not going to go into a back and forth on this to be frank with you, i know where you're going with this. what should have happened then is the governor of this state should have contacted the governor of texas and says -- and had the same kind of discussion i'm having now. i am the county executive the top elected official of this county, the mayor is the top elected official of new york city. i would think if the mayor is going to come up with a ridiculous plan like this which is not viable and not workable, that's been established already. he should have picked up a phone and contacted us and truly coordinate this. the mayor of new york city called that move that you

referenced morally bankrupt. well, what do you think is happening now? the mayor is doing exactly the same thing. this is political tit for tat. do you know who gets hurt? the same people that the mayor profess toss care for. these people are going back and forth, this he know nobody up in rockland county, this volunteer thing about voluntaryism is not true. they will be put on a bus and sent up here with nothing to do after eight hours sleep in a hotel, no place to go, no place to work. what do you think is going to happen? this is not the way to do things. this is not a plan. >> all i was trying to establish because i heard your criticism that you stated again for the decision made by the mayor of new york city, he was trying to get a sense of how you felt about the situation at the border itself, whether being moved to new york state, if that is something you're against. >> here is what i will say, this matter of border policy which is completely outside the realm of rockland county obviously except we get the impact of it right now, it is an embarrassment that

the federal officials in this country and the president of the united states cannot come up with something when they look at an unbelievable crisis at the southern border. how in god's name do these elected officials go to sleep at night after looking at what's going on down there? and not doing anything except bloviating an pontificating and not coming up with anything that's going to solve this. it's wrong. it's wrong. the people coming in this country regardless of how it's being done, they are the victims right now and this is just making matters worse. >> mr. executive, we do appreciate your time. please keep us posted. thank you. >> i will. putin gives a defiant speech in moscow from a pared down victory day parade. a day that is usually a favorite for putin to rally public support. we are just moments away from the opening bell on wall street where premarket futures are down today.

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overnight the ukrainian air force says it intercepted 23 of the 25 russian cruise missiles launched their way, 15 targeted the capital of kyiv. this video you're seeing right here shows the smoke trails from the explosions over the city at dawn. it is the fifth heavy assault on kyiv this month and there was a cnn team just 700 yards from where one missile landed in southeast ukraine. watch this. that was cnn's nick paton walsh's team. he joins us now from zaporizhzhia.

thanks for being here. i want to show folks also -- show what you showed us later was you actually stood in the crater of that blast of what was created and what was left over from that explosion. that's enormous, the kind of destruction. just a reminder yet again of the destruction that these missiles leave behind. what are you hearing and learning about the strike, the target and what people there are preparing for now? >> reporter: yeah, look, i mean, what you are referring to there is a town which has been mauled frankly by russian air strikes and artillery for i think it's fair to say the last month or so it is on the front line on the southern front where many expect ukraine's counteroffensive to put most of its energy. what startled us over a number of days there was the indiscriminate nature. yes, you could possibly think there might be military targets around, we can't discuss them in detail due to reporting restrictions but often these strikes miss wildly and the

missile that flew over our heads cost half a million dollars according to some western estimates. these are not things to necessarily be trifled with or used lib rerally but they are ud along that front line. this is a sign i think of russia beginning to express its range, its bid to hold ukraine back. it's unclear how effective it's necessarily going to be. we did see ourselves black smoke further on the horizon that suggested a key objective for ukraine, a town might be being hit quite hard. this is all part of the general sense that we may be seeing the opening stages of the counteroffensive getting under way. russia continues to launch barrages of drones and missiles nightly frankly for the past week across all of ukraine, startling the volume they're sending. what's more startling frankly is the effectiveness so far of ukrainian air defenses. you mentioned how all 15 cruise missiles targeting the capital were intercepted according to ukrainian officials and only two

got through across the country. we've seen intermittent awful moments where some of these missiles have got through, you know, in kherson, some shelling got through last week, but the broader story is that russia's barrages are not really that effective because of ukraine's improved air defenses. a secondary story to all of this now is we begin to see the tension around this counteroffensive building is the extraordinary disunity of russia's messaging at the moment. we've talked about the victory day parades in moscow shrshrunk at the same time, at the same time he have gea evgeni prigozhs not clear what he's necessarily going to do there. real moscow discounty on a day they're trying to project unity and strength. a lot wrong in the house of russia. >> no kidding.

great to see you and your team continue to be safe. sara? joining us to discuss is lieutenant general mark hertling. i love talking to you in the morning because you give such good analysis. i want to ask you first about russia, which has scaled back its victory day, which wouldn't seem like a big deal except they have had someone, we don't know who, had a drone hit the kremlin and then of course you have this war going on in the background. they tried to tell their citizens wasn't a war at first, it was even illegal to say the word. so what does it tell you this display where there's just a single tank on the grond and then you see the young soldiers there as well? >> sara, it's great to talk to you, too. when i woke up to the pictures of the may day parade i was just appalled. i mean, it was fascinating to see what little they were doing in a parade that's supposed to capture the imagination and the heritage of the old soviet

union. it was -- i mean, it was just laughable to have one tank with a soviet flag. they did have other vehicles, but they were old, they were trucks, there weren't any combat equipment in there other than their launchers for some of their ballistic missiles. it just gives an indicator of how much trouble russia is in. nick peytoaton walsh's commenta about the missiles that are continuing to miss the mark, to go into cities where they're hitting buildings that civilians live in, but not doing any -- having any kind of military effect really is a commentary on a lack of something we in the military call precise targeting. artillerymen and missileers work to get their missiles on a specific target and it seems like russia is firing these arbitrarily at different locations. very fact that nick was standing in a hole that was nowhere near

any target tells me everything i need to know about how poor the russians are still conducting this campaign. >> yeah, of course, some would argue that they are purposely hitting some areas where civilians are. i do want to mention something that you just talked about, ukraine's military says it intercepted 23 of 25 russian cruise missiles. so, again, to your point, they are able to sort of thwart some of the attacks. i want to go back to the parade and something that we heard from the head of russia's wagner mercenary force. first that force threatened to stop fighting, to pull its fighters back because there was not enough ammunition. so tells you a little something about where they are. and now the head of that force is criticizing the kremlin for even having this parade. here is what he said. he said victory day is the victory of our grandfathers. this is the part that really gets you. we haven't earned that victory one millimeter. does that really tell you what's happening in ukraine at this

point in time? >> you know, share ration i've been following the drama that's existed between prigozhin, shoigu who is the defense ministry of russia, grass move who is the equivalent of the chairman of the joint chiefs and putin. this has been political intrigue inside of the kremlin that's burst out into the open. the russians are seeing this, the world is seeing this, there's this individual who has no military background, that's prigozhin, he is not a soldier, he knows very little about soldering, just throwing meat at the ukrainians and killing a lot of russians and then proclaiming that he's not getting support. it's just amazing to me a lack of professionalism and the fact that russian generals who aren't very good by my assessment based on personal conversations and also what i'm watching are allowing this to happen and that mr. putin is using this as a strategy to stoke things inside

the kremlin. >> mark hertling, always a pleasure to speak with you. i want to mention we are seeing pictures of bakhmut there which has been under siege for many weeks now. john? so a manhunt in philadelphia after a prison escape goes undetected for 18 hours. you will never believe how they got out.

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one of the spaces that the prisoners here do have access to. so as far as we know that is how the escape happened. the mayor jim kinney in harrisburg at the time that the news came down and he came back to do a press conference and visibly frustrate and this is what he said. >> the system screwed up and people did not do what they were supposed to do, and it is clear. aim angry about it, and so i am very upset and if people followed up and did what they were supposed to do d and we would not have this problem. >> again, the philadelphia officials are saying that the men are dangerous. hurst is charged with four homicides and grant is charged with the narcotics charges and the u.s. marshals are on the lookout and also, the pennsylvania department of corrections are coming into philadelphia to assess the prisons for weaknesses and vulnerabilities for any weakness that may still assess. >> what a stunning report, danny

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