investigation, beyond just look agent these lawsuits against johnson & johnson and what they have to say. it raises the question of this bigger issue of how cosmetics are regulated in america. >> my goodness. it's fascinating, disturbing, enlightening. pamela brown, thanks so much. we will be tuning in for this new episode of "the whole s sto" tonight at 8:00 on cnn. thank you for joining me. we continue with jim acosta right now. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. we begin with the latest from two heartbreaking scenes in texas. new details are coming in about

the gunman in the deadly shooting at an outlet mall outside of dallas. eight people were killed. also developing this evening, at least seven people are dead after a car plowed into people outside a homeless shelter in brownsville, texas, this morning. that shelter has been housing migrants. first we want to play you the moments leading up to the incident. we should warn you, withat you e about to watch is very disturbing. we have frozen that video right before the moment graphic moment of that footage. the video comes from a congressman's office. i will speak with him later. let's go to rosa flores. what do we know about what happened?

>> reporter: according to police, seven people are dead. at least six -- excuse me, ten individuals are in the hospital. police are still going to hospitals to see if there are any other individuals injured. from talking to the director of the shelter, he says that at about 8:30 this morning, there were 25 migrants sitting waiting for a bus. that's what a lot of the migrants do. they were going to downtown brownsville or they were going to their destination in the united states. he says that his video surveillance camera captured the incident. this director describes a 2007 range rover vehicle driving at a very high rate of speed, running a red light and hitting the curb about 30 feet from where the migrants were sitting. he says at that point this time, the vehicle completely lost control. the director says that from talking to some of the

witnesses -- that he talked to some of the witnesses. he said they said this was an intentional act. i asked the director based on what he witnessed in the video if he believed this was an intentional act. he said, no. he reiterated that what you see in the video is a vehicle at a very high rate of speed taking a red light and then hitting a curb and that vehicle going out of control. about the driver. according to brownsville police, the driver is being uncooperative, giving police multiple names. police are having to fingerprint the vehicle for his identifying details. police have taken a blood sample. they are planning to get toxicology reports on him to figure out if he was on something while he was driving. the individual has not been identified by police at this time other than this is a hispanic male. i'm in el paso, texas. right now i'm here because we're

covering a surge of migrants on the u.s. southern border. if you look around me, you will see that here in this city -- the city is under a state of emergency, just like brownsville is. here, there are hundreds of migrants on streets. just overnight, you will see barricades in front of me, because the city of el paso blocked off the street. they mentioned public safety. there's a lot of migrants on the street. a lot of the services are delivered in front of this church. they were making sure that at least this one street is blocked off for that reason. jim, they specifically mentioned, city officials, that they are asking residents of el paso and motorists to be very careful as they are driving around this area, because they know -- as you can see all around me -- there are hundreds of migrants here on the street. it could be very, very dangerous. jim?

>> rosa flores, thank you so much. another example of how difficult it has been for these migrants coming to the u.s. in some cases, very tragic. thanks very much for that report. to the suburb of allen, texas. some things you are about to see are disturbing. cnn obtained this photo that appears to show the dead shooter, heavily armed and dressed in tactical gear. a senior law enforcement official and source familiar with the investigation tells nn he is 33-year-old mauricio garcia. the killer hops out of his car and we are pausing it before you see him gun down men, women and children on a busy sidewalk. a police officer on an unrelated call took out the shooter. we have a lot of angles to cover.

ed davis is with us to lend us his expertise. josh campbell joins us by phone. josh, you first. you have new reporting on the shooter and some possible extremist motivations. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right. i think it's worth pointing out that thus far, the texas department of public safety, which is the agency we are told is leading this investigation, has been radio silent when it comes to information about the suspect. the community there is wanting answers about who this person was. we have been working our sources. i'm told by a law enforcement source that officials are investigating whether this texas mall shooter was motivated by right wing extremism. i'm told that the suspect, who we know, of course, was shot and killed by a brave, heroic police officer there in texas, likely saving countless other lives, that after the suspect was shot, authorities found that he had some type of insignia on his clothing that read the letter

rwds, which police believe stands for right wing death squad. that same type of insignia and patch had been publically seen by various members of extreextreechl i -- extremist groups at rat lli and protests. i'm told by a source that investigators have uncovered an extensive social media presence by this texas shooter. of course, he is deceased. he can't talk. authorities will often have to try to fan out and gather as much evidence as they can to try to piece together that motive. what we are learning from the source that as part of the social media presence, authorities have found what are being described as neo-nazi and white supremist posts and images many an extensive social media presence that authorities have been looking at, have been investigating. they have uncovered these neo-nazi and white supremist

related posts that they believe the suspect posted online. there is a lot we don't know about the suspect. authorities tell us that they haven't zeros in on one particular motive. obviously, this is very telling as they are gathering this evidence that you have him with this patch associated with right wing extremism and this alleged online presence associated with nazis and white supremacists. i'm told from a source that -- if we look at the photo that was obtained by our colleague from a source at the scene, the photo where you see the suspect on the ground, this is after he was shot and killed, you see next to him this ar-15 style weapon. you can see on his chest there appear to be magazines of ammunition. i'm told by a source that in the suspect's vehicle, authorities recovered multiple firearms. you have to -- it's chilling to think that but for that police officer who was there that sprung into action, this obviously could have been much, much worse.

a lot of investigation to be done. we are, through our sources, beginning to learn more about the suspect. >> josh campbell, thank you very much for that new information. we appreciate it. let me go to ed l. you have reporting regarding garcia. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: we went to a neighborhood in dallas that has an address that we believe is connected to the parents of him. we spent several hours there this morning speaking with neighbors. the details that josh is reporting on of possible connections to right wing extremism really would be a shock to the neighbors. many of them did not speak with this family directly. it was superficial connections. they mostly would see him in passing. they describe limb as someone who was polite. they would see him walking by himself with a hoodie on, head covered, no matter how hot it

might be in his neighborhood in dallas. nothing that anyone got any indication that there would be this kind of potential behavior from their neighbor. several neighbors did tell us it had been several months since he had been living there at home with his parents. that's where we were this morning. here at the crime scene, you can see the area back into the parking lot of the outlet mall. investigators are working. we have spoken with the source -- a witness who was here yesterday when the shooting transpired and gave us a better indication of the gunman's movements. he arrived here at the outlet mall and began shooting at people. we understand that the shooting took place in very close to in front of the h & m store and ended at a fat burger restaurant. we spoke with a witness who was in the middle of that path. several hundred yards away. he witnessed this gunman pass right before him.

what did you see the gunman wearing? >> he had on a black windbreaker. some written across the back. looked like a p to start with. he had on a black ammo magazine vest on the front. 30-round type looked like. he was pretty much in black. >> the way he moved? >> he wasn't running. he was more like deliberately moving. it's hard to explain. he was under control. >> did he have his -- >> his gun was up and he was shooting in front of the store. we heard the shots as he went by shooting. >> reporter: that gentleman went on to tell us as he was escorted out of the building by law enforcement and eventually passed by the area where the gunman was shot, he did see several bodies there on the ground. he also told us that it was just moments after he saw the gunman pass by him that it was the

police officer who he saw that person pass by the window of the store and later presumably gun down this suspect, several businesses down the path from where they were. >> thank you very much for that. let me go to ed davis for his expertise on this. ed, what do you make of this new reporting coming in from josh campbell that a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation is telling cnn that this gunman may have been motivated by right wing ideology? may have been active online sharing p neo-nazis and that thing, what does that tell you? >> good afternoon, jim. what it tells me is that we have still another case of someone who was known to have problems, fringe players, whether it be extremism or mental health issues or alcohol issues, and

they decided to activate themselves and get access to very powerful weapons and unlimited amounts of ammunition and decide to go out in a blaze of glory and kill all of these young children. i saw some of the pictures from the scene. it's heartbreaking to see another tragedy occur and to know that there are indicators. there are lists that can be put together. there are enhanced checks that can be done for people who want to buy this type of equipment. for a lot of reasons, we are incapable there this country of protecting our own citizens. it's just unconscionable to me. >> ed, does it make any sense to you that we are not hearing from law enforcement officials today at a press conference? they are not holding a press conference today.

we have having to learn information from our sources. i can't imagine why they would not do it. i can't think of the last time we had a mass shooting where you didn't have law enforcement out there the next day giving the media, giving the country and the rest of the world the latest. >> right, jim. it's a very old-fashion response to a major tragedy like this. this is what used to happen in the '60s and '70s. over the years, we learned how important it is to get information out to people. if the media doesn't have valid information, they start to fill the void with other pieces of information that might not be correct. the community is desperate to find out if they are safe. believe me, i've been through this. in my lifetime. they want to be assured by their public officials that this situation is in hand. it really is -- i think it's based on a police department's fear that they're going to say

something wrong, it's going to be used against them in the future. you really have to show leadership. grab the bull by the horns. go out there and give the people the valid information that you know exists. even if it's bad news. because it's -- if you don't do that, it's going to get worse every hour that goes by. >> president biden put out a statement earlier today detailing that it was an assault-style rifle, an ar-15-style rifle that the gunman used in the shooting in all allen, texas. how big of a problem has this particular firearm become in your view? >> it is the weapon of choice for these crazy people that want to kill and maim as many people as they can. it just makes it easy for them. these are weapons of war. those rounds tumble whether they hit a human body. they tear it apart.

the pictures that we saw yesterday should be published far and wide. if the family says it's okay, those pictures should be out there so people see exactly what happens to someone when these weapons are used. something has to be done here. i don't know any other way to get the public motivated and get them out there trying to stop this. >> ed davis, former boston police commissioner, thank you for your time. >> thank you. joining us now, is texas state senator roland gutierrez. senator, thanks for being with us. we appreciate it. you played a major role in highlights the botched employee response to the shooting in uvalde. i'm curious of what you make of the response of allen. police are not having a press conference, they are not telling public the latest.

we have to get through the sources what the latest we believe to be. part of which being what josh campbell reported a short time ago, that this gunman may have been motivated by extremist ideology. what's your view on this? >> jim, i'm at a loss for words, frankly. we have seen this rodeo before. we saw it in uvalde. the lack of transparency there was there to hide all of the failure that happened over the course of that 77-minute response. my fear is that we don't know exactly how long it took that police officer to get there. i'm glad he was able to do the work and take down this suspect. but, you know, i also fear that maybe there's this other more possibly gross motivation by people in charge of this thing to change the news story. the fact is, this was a person

that was mentally ill that shouldn't have had these guns. coul you could have laws to keep this from happening. i heard several people -- greg abbotts say, there's nothing we can do. that's ludicrous. i'm at a loss for words today. i don't understand these republicans that want to just pray and do absolutely nothing. our country and our state is burning down because we have these guns in the hands of people that shouldn't have them. it's a chaos that's wholly created by the republican party and the nra. we can stop it and we can stop it now. but we don't have anybody with the political will to do it. >> let me get to that in a moment. wasn't to follow up on that. it sounds as though, is it not true, senator, that there was a police officer there at the outlet mall who was there on a different call and sprung into action? do we know whether or not that might have prevented this from

becoming a worse tragedy than what we saw yesterday? >> yeah. absolutely. there's no accounting for luck. we got a little luck yesterday, as sad as that sounds, to say that. it could have been tremendously worse had that officer not been on this other call. listen, i'm glad he did the job. i'm not here to criticize law enforcement. i have done plenty of that over last year in the terrific and horrific failures we saw a year ago in uvalde. i'm here to figure out why in the world we're not getting any information. the fact is, this was a security guard, what i heard from your network earlier. this guy had a license to be a security guard. we heard ken paxton say we need more good guys with guns. he said spiecifically, we need more police and more trained security guards. wow. here you have a trained security guard, trained at multiple

levels of carrying a weapon and using a weapon. but he was mentally ill. we have a mental health crisis. do something about that. do something about having guns in the hands of mentally ill people. >> as you know, uvalde and allen are part of a long list of mass shootings we have seen in texas in the past decade. here are just some of them with the number of deaths in parentheses. nine people were killed in cleveland, texas. how much comes down to the prevalence of guns and the gun culture in texas? what about the ar-15? is there anything that can be done about the ar-15 in texas or ar-15-style rifles? is that not going go anywhere there? >> you know, i don't know. we have three weeks left. i'm going to yell from from the rafters tomorrow. absolutely, this gun has been

p prevalent since 2006. we sell 4 million of these, half of which end up in mexico. the republicans like to talk about invading mexico. good luck with that. we put these guns down there. we have a lot do here. we have got real solutions to problems, raising an age limit on access to ar-15s. closing the gun show loophole. you can go to a gun slow in texas, buy an ar-15 without showing your driver's license. i heard a congressman say earlier, there's nothing we can do. that's ludicrous. certainly, we have to do protective orders. florida did this. 21 days after parkland, they initiated a massive set of gun bills. you have bill lee in tennessee telling his congress, we need to do something about extreme risk protective orders. this guy was clearly mentally ill. clearly had a cache of weapons.

don't know who could have called a police. but we don't have a law in place in texas to stop this. this chaos that has ensued is a wholly made and created chaotic situation by the republicans. more guns does not equal less crime. more guns equals chaos and more guns equals that we are more dangerous in texas. >> senator, thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you, jim. coming up, what will it take to end these horrific mass shootings? fred guttenberg joins me to talk about his fight for tighter gun laws. live on the u.s./mexico border where cities and towns are bracing for a surge of migrants with covid-era border restrictions expiring this week. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." to build up the shop, save for collelege and our retirement. but we got there, thanks to our advisor and vanguard.. now i see who all ththat hard work was for...

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he says that it's sad. it's another example of the dangers they have that they don't feel protected. also, he thinks it's a result of the lack of organization in the u.s. to deal with this influx of migrants. jim, this is just one of the encampments in the cities. there are shelters that have been up to capacity for many, many weeks and months. they are believed to be thousands of people hiding in houses. some people, when they pay a human trafficker to be brought into the states, they have to wait in some kind of house where there are many people in very unsanitary conditions. that's what the authorities here are fearing that you will have people coming out and trying to cross. not only that, they are still seeing people arriving by bus, by train. whoever can make it to the border, they just want to cross -- go across the border.

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country. nine of them since friday. that's according to the gun violence archive. our next guest knows the tragedy too well. he lost his daughter in the 2018 parkland school shooting. fred guttenberg, who has been on this program many times, is here in person. thank you for being with us. it's a privilege to have you here. you wrote this book, "amer shat that fuel gun violence." it's a great read. a lot of important information in there. what's your response to the latest massacre in allen, texas? killed eight people just out at a shopping mall on a saturday. >> i'm going to pick up with a prior guest who talked about comments from ken paxton saying we just need more security guards and that thing. it looks like the shooter was a trained security guard. stop listening to the liars. for far too many years, we have

listened to people like ken paxton who have said, more guns solve problems. it was a lie. they conned america. it's not true. listen, my daughter would be 20 years old in july. looking right now at this problem, the context of her 20-year life. i want to go back 20 years. 20 years ago, we had 200 million weapons in america. we now have over 400 million plus ghost guns. we have more than doubled. 20 years ago, ar-15 sales were less than 2% of all guns sold. they are now 25%. stop listening to the liars, because everything you need to know to understand gun violence is what i just told you. the question is, how did we get here? it's through all the lies, all the my all the bs slogans that we listened to the lobby and their enabled length lay tors like ken paxton tell us

that it is ground zero for this violence. >> we covered it the last two weekends. let's listen to what this texas lawmaker said yesterday. i think it gets to one of the other topics you want to get into. let's listen to this. >> really, i would like to stay away from the politics today because i want to focus on the victims. today, we sluhould be focused o the families. prayer is powerful in the lives of those people devastated. people want to make this political. prayers are important. >> that was a congressman in the area who was on with my colleague. he was essentially saying what we hear after these events, that's thoughts and prayers. >> yeah, yeah. i am a victim. i am a survivor. my daughter is a victim of gun violence. the second it happens, the time to fight this. before it happens, during and

after. enough of people thinking we can wish this away, we can think it away, we can pray it away. we have 400 million guns in america. we have doubled -- more than doubled our arsenal in less than 20 years without any regard for public safety in public and private places. don't listen to him. listen to those whose only incentive is to stop the next one, people like me. >> i have to ask you about this. texas officials once again have been slow to inform the public on just the number of fatalities, but also information about the gunman. we have to go through sources and that thing. this happened during uvalde where texas owe fir officials w to provide information. what's going on? >> it would force people to look at policy in texas. they did the same thing last week after the mass shooting. they said, because the guy

was -- they wanted to focus on illegal immigration. they never once asked the question, if that was a factor, how did he get the gun? how did he get the ar-15? it's the only question that mattered last week. it's the only one they didn't ask or answer. they are pulling it again. you know what? all i can tell you is this. i am so hopeful and optimistic, because we have an election coming up in '24. 80% of americans say they want this problem solved. if that 80% of america shows up and votes -- i think they are going to. this is resonating. we're going to solve this. people like senator cruz -- one of the liars. he should get ready to pack. he has a great challenger. i think allred will be the next senator of texas. that's how we fix it. >> let me ask you about your book. i think you were telling me before the break, you provide aid copy to each member of congress. you are about to.

i hope i didn't ruin surprises. your book talks about shattering myths when it comes to mass shootings and gun violence. is there a myth that frustrates you the most? >> you know, the very first myth we tackle in the book is who we are as a country. we as a country for our history, this isn't the way we have been. for the majority of our history, we have been a gun safety country. we have recognized the right to gun ownership, but also the need for laws to protect public safety. that changed in '77 when the nra was taken over by this harlan carter and really hit its peak in the late '90s and early 2 2000s. we have seen the consequences of it. we have respected the rights of firearms owners but acknowledge the need for safety. the first myth that really

drives me crazy is the idea that if you want to reduce gun violence, you are anti-gun. it's not true. that's number one. i am not anti-gun. i respect gun owners. i have gun owners in my family. i want to reduce gun violence. i hate gun violence. the other one that drives me x- crazy because it's personal when it comes to schools. after sandy hook, the nra said for the first time -- this is not like it's been a part of our history. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun with a good guy with a gun. they said that after sandy hook, about four or five days after. they turned sandy hook into a gun sales bonanza. that's what they did. because my daughter was killed five years later in a school from an ar-15, again, it really upsets me. we put all the facts there. everything is well researched

and resourced. the bottom line is, all of their slogans, all of their lies, all of their myths, stop listening to the liars and make sure you vote in '24. >> fred guttenberg, thanks for bringing us truth. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all the best to you and your family. always thinking about jamie and we always appreciate when you come on the show. it means so much to us. >> thank you. >> i'm glad you are doing it in person. good luck this week. make sure you read fred's book. it's essential reading. we will be right back. bebecause it's powered by the most potent source of energy there is ... you. this is the lexus variety of electrification ... inspired by, created for and powered by you. ♪

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bloody fight for a town that the ukrainians say they are happy to kill russians in. as far as they are concerned, doesn't really have any strategic interest or advantage. unlike their preparations for what they say is a planned summer offensive. all eyes are on ukrainians to see where and how this offensive may begin. there's a lot of speculation that it might get underway in the south, perhaps with the attempt at liberating the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant there. there have been reports from the russian side or the russian-held areas of ukraine of mass evacuations, looted goods, civilians and some military elements, particularly from the city appearing on social media and being claimed by elements within the ukrainian administration. that would be a sign that the russians are expecting something. >> sam, thanks for that report. we'll be right back. how about all weekend? let's go. ahora! i'm a miami hotel.

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