looking bored as if he'd like to be anywhere else as his mother takes the crown at her coronation nearly 70 years ago. that is by no means the only photo of a royal child being a kid over the years. here's prince william the heir to the throne covering his eyes at buckingham palace. decades later, prince george at the same ceremony looking kind of like his grandfather in 1953, and many will remember william's youngest son louie then 4 at the queen's platinum jubilee covering his ears during the flyover. he shushed his mother princess katherine and made other funny faces during the jubilee concert. we'll see any young royals do anything similar this time. be sure to watch our special coverage of king charles coronation starting at 5:00 a.m. eastern time saturday here on cnn. the news continues, cnn prime time with abby phillips starts now. >> thank you so much. and good evening, everyone. i'm abby phillip. we begin tonight with a

significant turn in the investigation involving donald trump's handling of classified documents. "the new york times" reporting tonight that federal prosecutors have secured the confidential cooperation of a person who has worked at mar-a-lago, an insider whose identity is not known. the doj is looking at whether trump ordered boxes of sensitive materials out of a storage room, and this insider, according to the times, has provided a picture. now, keep in mind, this is coming after cnn's exclusive reporting yesterday that prosecutors are asking witnesses about the handling of surveillance footage at trump's resort. so let's begin with cnn's sara sidner, former bush counsel jameel jaffer, and former obama and biden adviser ashly alison. first, let's get straight to cnn's legal analyst elie honig. this is a significant development it seems. what does it mean when we say cooperation? and how significant is it that this person is on the inside?

>> so abby, this is a big deal because the real life, life blood of federal prosecution is ko cooperators. the only person who can really take you inside a criminal organization is another criminal. n now, we don't know exactly whether this is a person who's pled guilty to crimes relating to mar-a-lago. if so, that's a big tdeal. we also don't know how much information this cooperator has. it's possible this person will help prosecutors make some specific points or connect some dots. it's also possible this person has sort of the key to the whole question here, will be able to walk prosecutors through everything they need to know. >> here's another nugget that was tucked into this story that is very interesting. it seems that according to this report, prosecutors have also subpoenaed records that pertain to trump's dealings with the saudi-backed liv golf tournament. what does that say to you? >> yeah, that jumped off the

page to me from maggie haber mannd's reporting. the liv governor organization has nothing to do with the classified documents at mar-a-lago or how they were stored or how the people at mar-a-lago responded to subpoenas. so that tells me that this investigation has expanded in its scope, and we know that the liv golf organization did business with the trump organization, held some golf tournaments at trump property. it tells me that this investigation has grown. >> jameel, what is your reaction to all of this? what does it signify to you? >> obviously it shows a turn in the investigation. we now know that not only there may be classified documents there, but there may have been video. something may have happened with that video, was that video tampered with? was it modified? was not all of it provided to the justice department. we know the president has gone on tv talking about his provision of those records to the fbi, but the question is did he provide everything, and if not, what's missing from those tapes? >> i'm also curious about what

did it take to obtain the cooperation of this witness, which is a big part of the picture. stand by, everyone. also today a jury convicting more far right extremists of sedition for plotting to attack the united states government on january 6th. the guilty four are all members of the proud boys, a militia group and it included the leader of that group, enrique tarrio. the justice department again successful in proving a conspiracy to stop the peacepeaceful transfer of presidential power. so when you take this all into consideration, this brings the number of guilty verdicts or guilty pleas of seditious conspiracy so far to 14. now, that proves, it seems, that it was an insurrection, but that is something that many people on the right at one point tried todownplay. >> oh, it was an insurrection, so how many of those participants in that insurrection have been charged

with insurrection, with treason, zero. but you know what, no one has been charged with sedition. >> no one has been charged with sedition or insurrection. most have been hit with charges like parading. parading. who knew that was a crime. >> do you know how many people have been charged with inciting insurrection or sedition, or treason or domestic terrorism. >> no one. >> as a result of anything? zero. >> has anybody been charged with sedition? nobody. has anybody been charged with treason? nobody. why do they keep calling it an insurrection. >> houmtsd do words like insurrection, and treason appear in biden's own doj indictments against the january 6th rioters, the answer, zero. >> insurf recrecting. they've been charjtd and convicted. you've spent so much time with some of these individuals, especially enrique tarrio, sara. does any of this come as a surprise? >> not all except for enrique

ta tarrio. he was not there. he was the one defendant who was not in d.c. he had already gotten in trouble, a judge told him to stay out of d.c. because he had burned a black lives matter flag which he admitted and had brought some illegal gun cartridges to d.c., and so he wasn't allowed to be there. but this is a conspiracy charge, and so this jury -- and i was there for some of the jury selection, and i watched some of this trial as it was going forward -- this jury is being asked to look at whether there was a plan or a plot, not whether or not it actually happened, and what they found with a mountain of evidence, that can only be described as a mountain of evidence. this went on for 18 weeks with five different defendants. they found that four of the five did commit seditious conspiracy. the thing i found very interesting and also somewhat surprising is that dominic pezzola is the one person they did not find guilty of seditious

conspiracy, but we have seen numerous pictures and videos of him breaking into the capitol with a police officer's shield. he's been convicted in other things and for other things but not seditious conspiracy, and i think that may be because four of the five were leaders. they were in leadership. >> and when you were talking about plots, that matters. sara, i do want to play a little bit of your conversation with tarrio before all of this. listen. >> i'm not going to cry abouta group of people that don't give a crap about their constituents. i'm not going to sympathize with them. i was celebrating, and i'll tell you, i'll celebrate the moment that the government does fear the people, but i think -- >> do you wish that you didn't do that now that you know what happened? >> another thing is i'll never regret something that i said. >> it's so significant for the

justice department, this is not just a moral victory. it's a really important legal one, one that hasn't really happened since 1995. what does it say itto you that they were able to win this one? >> i mean, it demonstrates that they were able to show a jury that there was an agreement, a means and an end, an overt act was taken in furtherance of this conspiracy to engage in sedition, to obstruct the operation of congress and then the other charge we saw as well, the destruction of federal property, the breaking of the window, the taking down of the fence, they were able to put facts on the table that convinced a jury of their peers that in fact, these people were involved in sedition against the united states and had agreed to do so. >> yeah, and i mean, for the political system we just played that montage of all the denials. i mean, there is no more denial at this point, a, that it happened, and b, that it was seditious conspiracy, it was an insurrection. >> yeah, and i think for so long, you know, donald trump has talked about the folks who were at the capitol on january 6th and defended them and talked about it like it was a witch

hunt by the doj. well, to your point it was a jury of their peers who said we have seen the evidence, and we actually know that you tried to overthrow our government. i think for the american people who for so long have been fed lies by a part of elected officials and the maga base that, no, this happened. this was real, and justice must be served. >> all right, stand by, everyone. we're turning now to another tragic and complex story, a portrait that is emerging of jordan neely. the 30-year-old new york city man who died after a fellow subway rider put him in a chokehold, sources tell cnn that neely was homeless and had a history of police encounters. that includes 42 arrests from larceny to attacks against women, and on the day that he died, however, witnesses say that he acted erratically on the train, but that he didn't harm anyone. and at least one witness says

that the man who head locked neely came up from behind. now, cnn has not independently confirmed what exactly happened leading up to this incident. how long neely was restrained for, or whether he was armed, but we know that hours later neely was pronounced dead at a hospital. friends say he struggled with homelessness and hunger, mental illness, and personal trauma. his mom was murdered when he was 14. her body found days later in a suitcase in the bronx. it was a brutal event that friends say he never recovered from, even as he tried to move on as a dancer. video shows neely performing years ago as michael jackson. ♪ ♪ and joining me now is moses harper, a fellow michael jackson tribute performer and a friend of jordan neely. moses, thank you so much for being here with us.

first, i want you to tell us -- tell us about your friend, jordan neely. >> i met jordan, he was a teenager, and he was very excited about celebrating michael jackson's legacy. it was refreshing to see someone so motivated to celebrate something positive, even though some of michael's music was way before his time. not only did he appreciate it, but he was able to connect with different people from all over the world who were in mourning in 2009 when michael jackson died and connecting and being kind and meek and sweet and open-minded. i loved watching him. >> what was it like for you to hear about his death, to watch that video that we've all now seen? >> i heard about his death in between doing outreach with kids in the bronx. someone who i'd worked with in the past sent me the story, and i was very disturbed because i saw the name, and then when i

saw his face in one of the photos i was crushed, you know. i was crushed. and i did not watch the video immediately. i waited hours and hours and members of our community, the mj family said moses please don't watch it. and i waited and i said i have to see. i need to see, and i was disturbed. i was disgusted that such barbarism could take place and my heart bleeds that our human species can still treat each other like that. >> help us understand how jordan ended up where he was. according to this witness he was saying he was hungry. he was thirsty, but he had had so many encounters with police over the years. what did you know about him that can help us understand where he ended up? >> i know that him losing his mother, he never got over that. i know that he -- from what he said, he didn't have a strong father figure in his life. i know that the only joy that he

really found was in interacting with other members of the community and performing. i know that i did try to encourage him to make sure that he got some things in order in terms of becoming educated and getting a diploma and that he was struggling with it and struggling inside because there was a lot of pain inside that was unresolved, and it makes a young person really unstable when they're not able to resolve and heal, and it disrupts that, and while i did try to reach out to him and he said i'm going to get it together the last time i saw him, he said he was going to try to get it together, and he was in the street, and i told him -- >> when was that that you saw him? >> 2016, that's the last time that i saw him, and he was homeless, and i'd never seen him like that, and he said i'm going to try to get it together. i gave him money. i bought him something to eat. i gave him a big hug and i said when you're ready to clean up, you just come to me, i have your back brother. that's my blood going through your veins. i love you, don't ever forget that. don't ever think that you should be ashamed to come to me, you

know. and he said i'm going to get it together. he said he was going to do that, and you don't force that on somebody, you know? you do them the courtesy to do that. >> we only have a few moments left, but what do you want to see happen here? >> the same thing that that happens that i've seen multiple times when someone commits fare evasion and they get arrested instantly, well, someone murdered someone in the train station. they need to be arrested. it's a murder. i can ask 5-year-olds in a kindergarten class what do you think should happen, and it's common sense mathematics. you don't need a degree to figure out what needs to happen. accountability, accountability. accountability. and i've been in positions where i'm amidst high risk populations that are armed and intending to do harm and worse to each other and been able to deescalate a situation by using compassion, reason, logic, and knowing how to approach a situation responsibly. i refuse to believe that the

marines are represented by people who would do something like this. this is not how we treat, this is not how we're supposed to treat people, even when they're in a state where they're having an episode. we're supposed to use intelligence and compassion, and know how to talk to each other. >> moses harper, thank you so much for joining us. i'm very sorry about the loss of your friend. >> thank you for having me here. >> thank you. and coming up next, some lawmakers outraged that there are no charges yet despite not knowing all of the facts. we will speak to one of them live. plus, a new revelation tonight about supreme court justice clarence thomas and another gift from a mega donor when we return. asking the right question can greatly impact your future. - are, are you qualified to do this? - what? - especially when it comes to your finances. - are you a cecertified financial planner™? - i'm a cfp® profefessional. - cfp® professioionals are committed to acting in your best interest. that's why it's gogotta be a cf.

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democratic congressman of new york, jamal bowman. congressman bowman, thank you for joining us here. i do want to read your initial reaction that you posted online on twitter. you said black men always seem to be choked to death. jordan neely did not have to die. it's as simple as that. yet we have another black man publicly executed. that is clearly a very emotional reaction, but you also heard what mayor adams said, which is we have to wait for the facts. is this premature? >> so as a black man watching the video, and i have to force myself to watch these videos because each time there's a new video there's more trauma that i feel. epi eric gardner was choked to death. george floyd had a knee on his neck. philando castile wasn't choked but he was shot to death on

video, and now mr. neely, and you know, i've -- i'm born and raised in new york. i rode the trains my entire life as a child. you often see people who are unhoused have episodes, and i couldn't help but think of the like ten other things that could have been done before this person decided to wrap his arms around mr. neely's neck and choke him to death. the entire world saw it, the entire world saw him be choked to death. it's on video, so let the d.a. do his investigation, but the investigation is going to include this video, and i don't understand how the police after questioning this gentleman decided to let him go when the person posed no threat. he was screaming for food and drink. he had no weapon. he didn't assault anyone. how did he end up dead? >> i do have to say that we don't really know all that

transpired here. we don't know what happened even that led to that moment, and that's a really critical gap here in our knowledge. but on the question of vigilanteism, right, there are some people who on trains when someone is becoming violent who are good samaritans and help, but i asked mayor adams about that, and i just want to play his response to you and have you respond. >> each situation is different. we cannot just blatantly say what a passenger should or should not do in a situation like that. >> what do you make of that reaction to this question of whether a vigilante should take matters into their own hands? >> i mean, again, if you are trying to intervene to keep people safe, there are ways to do it that don't lead to someone dying. mr. neely is of a very slight build. i'm a former educator, we are

trained to restrain in a way that keeps the person from being seriously hurt. there's a way to do that to keep someone from being seriously hurt. that was not -- that was not done here. on the question of vigilanteism, ak med aubry was murdered by vigi vigilantes. trayvon martin was murdered by vigilantes, and now we have another case here where this person seems to have gone too far. >> does it matter to you whether the person intended to harm him or thought he was helping? >> well, that's the question, right? the question is around intent. >> motive is incredibly important. >> intent is the question, but again, my question is this, you know, again, i've been in these situations with students and adults, proximity, compassion, engagement, moving people to the other side of the car, if you have to restrain around the arms and chest area like a bear hug until the person calms down.

there were two other people in the video who were helping. why the pressure on the neck until someone is no longer breathing? it doesn't make any sense to me. >> there's a lot more that we th need to learn about this story. jamal bowman, congressman from new york, thank you so much for being here. one senator suggests that some house republicans want the united states to default. we will talk to a republican next. plus, marina me knew knows joins me next as she reveals her battle with pancreatic cancer as she has a baby on the way. you don't want to o miss this. astepro starts working in 30 minutetes. so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go.

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earnings. joining me now to discuss this and more is republican congressman byron donalds of florida. congressman, thank you is and welcome to the program. so first, just to ask you about justice thomas and this arrangement in which harlan crow paid tuition amounting to about $6,000 a month for a couple of years for his grand nephew's tuition at private schools, why is that something that is acceptable for a supreme court justice to do without disclosing it specifically? >> well, listen, first of all, we're talking about a report from propublica. if there's going to be an investigation and it's something where the court has to do that, let's let the court's investigation run its course. i think the unfortunate thing here is that we have too many people trying to jump to conclusions off of a media report instead of letting the actual process go forward. what i can tell you is that even people who are on the other ideological side of the court have repeatedly said that justice thomas is a man of high

integrity. justice briar has said that about clarence thomas, and you know they don't agree when it comes to politics or even their views of the constitution, but he's talking about the man that he served with for many, many years on the highest court in the land. so before we go down this line and try to pitch shots at him about what was going on on trip a or b, let the ethics investigation run its course, if that's what's going to occur. we shouldn't be trying to impugn his character based upon a report from a couple of media sources. we have seen time and time again that these things typically don't pan out. >> and to be clear, the details of the report have been largely confirmed. harlan crow confirmed that he made these payments, and one of the interesting things is that justice thomas did disclose one of these payments at one point, but not all of them. so i mean, under those circumstances do you think that there is a need here for the

court to really be clear about what their ethics rules are around things like this so that it does not cast a shadow over their ability to be fair? >> look, let me be very clear on this one. the supreme court's a separate branch of government. whatever they do over at the court with respect to ethics, the court has to do that for themselves, and we have instances where there are justices who have not disclosed things that should have been disclosed in the past. that has also occurred. to be perfectly blunt with you, i think the reason why this is coming up is simply because it's clarence thomas, and he has continuously -- >> do you have an example of that? >> the target or the lightning rod on the court for many, many years. >> do you have other examples of other justices who are not disclosing things like that. >> actually, i do. a report just came out that justice ketanji brown jackson didn't disclose consulting income her husband had. she failed to disclose that. again, if the court is going to have this process about how they're going to manage ethics with respect to disclosures and such, then the court has to

manage that the same way members of congress has to manage it through their ethics committee through the legislative branch. they're a separate branch of government. the court needs to do that and congress, we stay in our lane and we handle it through our ethics committee. >> so let's pivot back to your lane here in congress because this is really important about the debt ceiling. >> sure. >> we are now with just a few weeks left before the debt limit will be breached. i want to play for you what montana senator jon tester said this morning about the plan that you voted for and that republicans voted for in the house. >> i think there's another challenge here, and that is we all watched the show to elect the speaker in the house three months ago. >> yeah. >> what did mccarthy promise? >> exactly. >> and i think that adds another side bar to this that makes it more difficult. >> senator -- >> far more difficult, and changes the landscape. >> are there too many promises that were made and perhaps kept in the house budget bill that

will make it difficult to get to a compromise on the debt limit at the end of this process? >> look, i think jon tester is trying to put that off on the house when the problem is it's hurt his state of montana and every state in the country is this inflation that was unleashed by the american rescue plan which jon tester voted for. that plan actually unleashed inflation in our country. it's crippling every american, and how house republicans have been very clear, we have to reduce our spending so that we can actually get this inflation under control. that's the only way this is going to work, coupling that with the interest rate increases from the federal reserve. but if you do that, it gets our county on track. it actually gives us an opportunity to actually find some room to begin to have strategies to pay down our long-term debts. that's the only plan here. no matter what happened in the speaker's vote is largely irrelevant, jon tester has been in the senate a long time, along with a lot of people in the united states senate. they have voted for a lot of the

spending that has brought us to where we are. so a lot of house republicans like myself who were elected a couple of cycles ago were saying that was all well and good when you had the vote, but now we have votes too, and the american people are telling us it's time to cut back. >> i think it's only fair to say, though, that a lot of republicans voted for the spending that got us to this point too. about a third of it was wrapped up during the trump administration. lastly, before you go, can you give us an example of anything that you would be willing to compromise on to get to a deal that will prevent the country are from going over the cliff of default? >> well, if we're going to be -- again, if we're going to be blunt, i can't give you that right now because chuck schumer and senate democrats haven't even come up with an idea. they have no plan. they have no solution, so why am i going to negotiate off of a plan that house republicans spent two and a half months working on, crafting, going over numbers, trying to find stuff that made sense that we could

all live with in the house when the senate democrats and frankly the white house have done nothing. at this point, they need to come up with a plan. they need to come up with a strategy, and when that occurs, then there's something to negotiate. but the american people need to understand while house republicans were having meetings week after week after week for a common sense solution to this, the white house said they didn't want to negotiate and chuck schumer, i don't know what he was doing, but they definitely weren't coming up with a strategy. so i'm sorry, laura, until then they've got to have a plan. >> just a yes or no answer to this one, are you willing to compromise? >> of course. i'm willing to have a negotiation and a conversation, but let's be very clear, the rating agencies have said for many years long before i got to congress it's partly congress's ability to raise the debt ceiling but it's also congress's ability to show they have a spending plan to actually curtail their long run debts and deficits.

and now that i'm a member of congress having been a former financial professional, i know exactly what the treasury markets are saying and congress has to have a sensible plan for curtailing spending over the long-term. we have to do both so i call on my colleagues in the senate and frankly president biden to come up with a plan and a strategy and let's get to work. >> all right, just to be clear, there are also very significant consequences to default as well as i'm sure you know, so that's what the financial markets are looking at most significantly right now, and they're, it seems pretty worried about it just given how far apart the two sides are. congressman byron donlald, we appreciate you coming on tonight. >> thank you ch. he's one of pop's biggest stars and today a jury decided that ed sheeran did not steal from marvin gaye, what this says about the future of music but especially now that ai is becoming major factor. ♪ take me into your loving arms ♪

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"thinking out loud" did not rip off chords from marvin gaye's classic "let's get it on". >> these chords are common building blocks which were used to create music long before let's get it on was written and will be used to make music long after we are all gone. >> cnn's vanessa yurkevich joins us at the table. this is such a landmark case, just like several others that came before it, but it signifies it seems that the music industry maybe can breathe a little easier now that these kinds of copyright claims will be slightly harder to prove? >> absolutely and this case was really a defining case in terms of what it meant for artists going forward. a lot of folks that i've spoken to in the music industry have said that if ed sheeran did not win this case, that would be a problem for musicians to come. and this is not the first time that ed sheeran has been sued. this case was just extremely high profile because it involved

marvin gaye's family, marvin gaye's family has also sued other artists including pharrell, who they actually ended up winning that case, but in this instance, they did not, and for ed sheeran and for a lot of people in the music industry, they see this actually as a win for them for them. >> yeah, one of the things at issue, can a melody or maybe even a resemblance to a melody end up being a copyright claim. this is from the katy perry ruling. this is what the judge said, allowing a copyright over this material would equate to allowing or even the minor scale itself especially in light of the limited number of expressive choices available when it comes to an eight note repeated figure. if you know anything about music, there are not that many notes available to you, three chords and the truth anyone? >> as somebody who's tone deaf, i'm the last person to speak. you have a chord progression and

the question is are these building blocks, is this a sequence put together in a way that creates a musical composition. these are hard questions, right? these are hard questions for juries to figure out, hard questions for lawyers to figure out, and they have been debated. to vanessa's point, what you don't want to do is prevent people from building on prior forms of music. at the same time, you can't copy it. where that line is is a tough one. >> yeah, and we also love marvin gaye. >> yes. >> so this is a little personal, you know. and i think i want to speak about it from a more cultural perspective. it is not like we're talking about some no name musical artist. we are talking about an icon that has probably influenced, marvin gaye, most of the folks who do r&b and probably ed sheeran whether he realizes it or not, and so i think while the law may have gone in ed sheeran's favor, some of his comments after the case about music to come after let's get it on, look, i'll be honest, i wawas, you know, more connected to ed sheeran's age group than marvin

gaye but i had to look up what that song was and i knew what let's get it on was. >> i need to turn to ai here, this is what is really looming for the music industry, how ai can throw a nuclear bomb into this whole conversation. >> and ed sheeran's case had nothing to do with ai but everything to do with copyright, which is the issue that artists are worried about when it comes to artificial intelligence. artists are worried that the ai is training on existing material and so does that mean that anybody who uses ai to create a new song can copyright that? the answer right now is no. the u.s. copyright office says that the art has to be created by a human, so if i asked ai to say something like create a song in the style of marvin gaye's let's get it on, i cannot copyright that work. >> i would hope not. i mean, that seems blatantly -- >> you can't. >> to be off limits in terms of what real creativity is. it's not just literally kind of ripping it off and -- i mean, right? or is it more complicated than that? >> here's the challenge, right?

so ai trains on these songs. what are all artists training on? they're tranining on songs. >> they also have brains. they have creativity. they have ideas of their own. >> well, i think the other question just real quick is that how are we going to ensure that a song isn't created by ai and then a human being saying i've done it. that's the big issue with like a chatgpt is that computers are doing the work for humans and they may be saying this is my original work. >> vanessa jameel and ashley, all of you thank you. what a fun conversation. coming up next, a public figure fighting a private battle. maria menounos is opening up about her diagnosis with pancreatic cancer while she's expecting her first child. she's here on her incredible road to recovery coming up next. to defend against erosion n and cavities. i think k that this product is a gamechananger for my patients- it really works.

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entertainment journalist maria menounos revealing she is recovering from a second serious health scare. in 2017 she had surgery to remove a brain tumor, and earlier this year she found out that she had stage 2 pancreatic cancer, and while she underwent that treatment, she and her husband were also preparing for their daughter to be born via surrogate.

she is due later this summer. maria menounos joins me now. she is the host of heal squad, a podcast and a show that is focused in part on healing from trauma. maria, it's great to see you. thank you for joining us. what are your doctors telling you about your prognosis and where you are in your treatment? >> so i'm super blessed that say that they got everything out in surgery and all the pathology came back that the cancer didn't spread anywhere thank god. you know, it's hard because there's -- there is a lot i'm still learning about pancreas canc cancer but the way my doctor described it is there are two kinds, i hope i have this right, there are two kinds and i had perhaps the one you would want. if you could have one of the

two, i had the one you would want which is a neuroendocrine tumor. when it's caught early, you have a much better prognosis, and so i'm just grateful that we caught it early. now the prognosis thank god is i'm clear. i'm cancer free, and i'll just have to do a scan in six months and then from thereon it will be every year for five years apparently, and then i'm done. >> that is incredibly good news to hear. what was the process like of even knowing that something was wrong? i mean, i imagine you're busy probably doing things all the time. how did you know that something was going on? >> so i was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in june. so that was kind of the beginning of like, wait, there's no way i have this. but it's so easy to say i have it because my dad's type 1, but at 43 to be diagnosed with this, it didn't really make sense to

me. i still have to put the pieces together honestly. i'm just fresh out of healing, so i have to do some more investigative work to see, you know, if this related. up until now they told me they're not. i don't know how it could not be related because of the tumor on the pancreas in the area that pro produces insulin, so we shall see. but that was kind of the first thing, and then i started having severe abdominal pain. i had two bouts that i remember, one that took me to the emergency room. they did a cat scan and they said everything was clear. i had done blood work, blood work was fine. and then tmi, but there was a lot of loose stool happening for like a month and a half, so i did all the stool tests, nothing came back from there, and that's something that i feel like is hard, right? we're all embarrassed to talk about those things, and i think we normalize when that's going

on a little bit too much, and it really should be a warning sign that something's happening. >> to pay attention to your body as well. >> i started looking into -- yeah, so i was listening -- i was having some throbbing, swelling on my left upper area of my abdomen, and i just knew something was wrong. i'm somebody who's very focused on their health since everything that's gone on in my health journey and having a podcast that's dedicated to health and wellness, i always follow the bread crumbs now. i listen to my body, and i was just really blessed that an angel came through and sent me to get this outside scan or we might not have found it in time. >> yeah. >> because here's the thing, this is the way -- the other thing that i didn't know at first, and i'm glad i didn't is this is what steve jobs had, and so he apparently, again, i haven't gotten to read everything up on this, but

apparently waited a long time to do any kind of treatment, and so, again, when you find it early like we did, you can have a really good prognosis. >> yeah, yeah, it's so important to pay attention to that stuff. you have a daughter coming in just a few months. what is it like to have gone through what you just experienced, this really difficult health scare but you're also anticipating something that for your family could be just a really beautiful moment that you guys have been waiting for for so long? >> it's hard. i'm not going to lie. i was really scared and shook because it was, you know, in the beginning you don't know anything. you just know you have a mass on your pancreas that sounds horrible and gloomy, and so i was really scared and, you know, we had some conversations where i was like, okay, you know, i would start to say to my husband

what i would want him to do if something happened. he was like stop saying that, i don't want to say that, i don't want and so at some point i knew we our house from that doom and gloom and the fear to celebration. and that's why i went on "live with kelly" and i announced the pregnancy because i knew we needed that love bomb more than people would ever know. and it really did help us a lot because we needed to be excited for her, and we needed her to feel that senergy and not fear. and so i've been motivated by that. and since i knew we were pregnant, i really did focus in all of my meditations on one thing, and that was her being born, being placed on my chest, and i would envision her knowing that i was super healthy and that her mom was going to go the distance with her. i'm going to see her get married. i'm going to see her have babies, and that's all i want,

and so i'm going to get that now. >> you are, you are. and we are so happy for your continued health and happy for your family, and i'm personally really excited to see you as a mom very, very soon. thank you so much maria for joining us tonight. we wish you all the best. >> thank you, thank you guys for all the love. and ahead on "cnn tonight" senator john fetterman revealing why his mental health took a huge hit and landed him in the hospital. alisyn camerota has the latest on how he's describing the brutality of the campaign against dr. oz. that's next. with love with a mom in your life. choose f from hundreds f stunning baskets and towers. it's the perfect wayay to say thank you for everything. harry and david. life is a gift. share more. shingles. the rash can feel like an intense burning sensation and last for weeks. it can make your workday feel impossible. the virus that causes shingles

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