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for disorderly behavior and that's what they say you were doing. and i just want to know that this is only the third expulsion since the civil war in the tennessee house of representatives. the last explosion was for sexual harassment. 22 counts in 2016 represented german durham exposure before that, in 1980 was for a recording of a lawmaker taking $1000 bribe for his vote. and so they're saying that our actions of first amendment activity of standing with our constituents demanding common sense, gun control is equal and equivalent to those crimes and unethical behavior. that's what they're saying, and it sets a very dangerous precedent that any voice of opposition or dissent can be ousted. welcome from the from from a democratic body democratically elected body. i'm sorry. didn't mean to step on you there a little bit of a delay. but look, i know you're the youngest democratic lawmaker in the state house right now. i know you ran largely because of gun violence. we appreciate your time. and of course, we'll be watching very closely tomorrow to see what happens in that expulsion vote. tennessee representative jones. thank you. thank you. cnn this morning
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continues right now. happy. chicago tonight is just the beginning. with our voices and our votes. we have ushered in a new chapter in the history of our city. good morning, everyone . you heard brandon johnson. there we are, following major election results overnight and two important places. chicago has picked a new progressive mayor. we're going to speak to brandon johnson live in a moment as he is preparing to take on the city's crime problem and monumental power shift in wisconsin is projecting that liberals will take control of the state supreme court. could have huge implications for abortion rights and future elections. china threatening to retaliate it's house speaker kevin mccarthy gets ready to meet with taiwan's president
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today, right here in the united states, but we're going to start with the former president after he is lashing out after he became the first ex president ever and u. s history to be charged with a crime or resident gave a primetime speech at mar-a-lago last night, just several hours after he was in a courtroom before a judge. here in new york city. last night, he blasted the district attorney, the judge and even the judges family. trump insisting the entire case is politically motivated. this fake case was brought only to interfere with the upcoming 2024 election. and it should be dropped immediately. i have a trump hating judge with the trump painting, wife and family. they can't beat us at the ballot box, so they try and beat us. through the law. we should know what trump says there about the judge. being a trump hating judge is not substantiated. it's baseless. the former president
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spoke fewer than a dozen words when he was actually in court yesterday, but the judge did warn not only trump but also the other council to not make inflammatory comments that could potentially in danger people. trump did say not guilty while he was in court yesterday. he pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. prosecutors say that he orchestrated a hush money scheme to cover up alleged affairs. with the adult film actress stormy daniels and a playboy model, our cnn senior legal affairs correspondent paula reed , is here tracking all of this for people who missed you know what day it was yesterday. what were the main takeaways now that we've actually got our hands on the indictment addition to the indictment? we also got that statement of facts and it lays out in great detail this scheme to suppress negative stories ahead of the 2016 election. but in order to charge falsifying business records as a felony, you need to prove that it was done in furtherance of another crime. and it's not clear what that other crime was looking on. to put that in the indictment you want to put in the statement
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of facts, but the district attorney, he also had a press conference where he could not clearly articulate he raised a couple of options could be a federal crime could be a state crime. it's not clear and there's a lot of people this morning, saying this is great. this is strong shirt. it's strong on facts. there are a lot of details there. but on the law, it's hard to assess because it's not clear what the larger crime is and if you cannot concisely articulate why you were charging the former president with a felony. that's a problem. they respond. his team respond well, he could he could. well, they could put out a statement. maybe. and trump spent a lot of last night not really talking about the merits of the case attacking the judge, though, which i thought was notable after the judge said yesterday asked them to refrain from making comments or engaging in conduct that could create civil unrest, potential to incite violence or jeopardize the safety or well being of any individuals. six hours later, he attacks the judge that raises the question of whether or not we'll see a gag order here. what's your sense? so the judge isn't such a tough spot here because to put a gag order on a candidate for the presidency raises some serious constitutional concerns. the
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former president knows that it's almost like by doing that he's daring, daring the judge to put a gag order on him, but his attorney, joe tacopina, did respond a short time ago. let's take a listen to what joe said. did you tell your client? did you do it? the judge asked you to do and advise him to knock it off. president trump heard the judge. he's not that anything to try to incite violence. clearly yesterday was it wasn't insane scene outside, but there was no violence. he didn't call for violence. he didn't call for anything attack on the judge, or certainly his family. no one is suggesting that anything should happen to the judge's family. president trump's comments did not in any way, shape or form incite violence or anyone else. in fact, former president doesn't always listen to his lawyers. we know that but even mention a judge when you're a criminal defendant is highly unusual ill advised. but then to go beyond that mentioned that judge's wife that judges family . it really does go beyond the
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norm. but of course we're so far outside the norm of anything here, and it'll be really interesting to see how the judge handles this. but how can you say it's not an attack on the judge's family when he literally says that he has a trump hating wife? that's what trump said about the judge. exactly we know how trump supporters will potential. he could respond to that. if you were a member of that judges family, you would absolutely feel under threat. this judge is in a really impossible position. i would also note in a moment when we've seen so many attacks on the judiciary threats. remember the gun taken outside of brett kavanaugh's home? i mean, you know, we know this moment. this environment is what he's doing, and it does appear based on years and years of covering the former president. you have as well. it does appear that he knows that if there's a gag order to not only can he say he is the victim of a political prosecution, he's also being prevented from talking about it. so the political there would be to his advantage not only will advise but dangerous. very dangerous. thank you. so take a look at this split screen for a moment. trump first appearing before the public has a criminal defendant right and then later
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as the leading republican presidential candidate for 2024 on the right, that's his safe space. that's mar-a-lago, where he railed against the charges. as we said, attacked the judge, the judges family attacked the district attorney who is prosecuting him. so let's bring in cnn political analyst in new york times senior political correspondent maggie haberman. it was. it was great to follow your tweets in real time last night as as a former president was speaking. i thought it was so interesting that you said this is the most united we've seen republicans around trump since prior to january, 6th and the insurrection? yeah i mean, i'll give you an example. the new york post front page this morning. the new york post has been attacking donald trump since the midterms and today, uh , they chose they choose donald trump over alvin bragg. right and so i think you're going to see a lot of that because so much of our politics now is about who you are against versus what you are for now. is this sustainable if trump gets indicted elsewhere, which he might he's facing an
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investigation in georgia is facing two justice department investigations. we expect some resolution on all three of those in the coming months. i don't know that that much freight is sustainable, but for er right now, trump's folks are assuming that they can point to this first indictment and say. see this means all of the rest of these are all political. and you saw trump do that in his speech last night. you did. you did as well. um the question about the gag order, i think is fascinating. katelyn polantz trump better than anyone else in . you know, this room? certainly does he keep challenging the judge here saying try to silence me. try to silence if you try to silence me. yes yes, but i don't think that's the only thing that he's doing. i think he's trying to get the judge to recuse himself. i think that is part of what trump's came here is because he attacked the judge into accusing himself, saying the judge has too many conflicts and therefore there's going to be that that is what this is about and part now it's also in part about the trump. doesn't believe systems ought to apply to him and he's going to push
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them as far as he can, but just based on conversations i had with a bunch of people last night after we saw that speech, and after we finished our list together experience katelyn polantz night, our last together together experience the people that i spoke to made very clear that this is where this is headed that basically remember this judge oversaw. trump organization trial is overseeing steve bannon trial related to alan weisberg's sentencing, so trump is trying to change the judge, which is one of the things we've seen trump do in other cases over time. and guess what the trump organization trial had business falsification charges in it, so you can't ignore that we did learn some new information, though in this indictment and statement of facts about david pecker who was the ran the company that publishes the national enquirer being invited to the white house to be thanked for his help to trump during the campaign. that was news to me and that in everything that i read, you know, there were a couple of things as you're reading the statement of fact, that goes along with this indictment, and apollo is absolutely right in making the point that it's not
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clear exactly what the other the underlying crime that this relates to is. but when you read that statement of fact, there were so many things that happened that we had forgotten about. i had forgotten that amy the national enquirer. paid a doorman who had made what turned out to be a false allegation against trump. but buried in there is this fact that david pecker went to the white house, and trump thanked him for his help during the campaign. it was a reminder that this case, you know, there's been a lot of focus on michael cohen, who is clearly the key witness and brought the bulk of i suspect documents, texts, you know, testimony. but there are other pieces that support what michael cohen is saying. and i think that david peckers testimony. remember he was the first witness this grand jury heard from. he was one of the last witnesses they heard from. they brought him back. i think he will be really key as well. fascinating. um thank you very much, maggie. we appreciate it. all right. thank you very much. guys want to talk about what's happening in chicago because chicago voters are making their choice. they made their choice overnight cnn projects brendan johnson, a progressive cook
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county commissioner, will be the next mayor of the city of chicago, edging out paul vallas , a moderate former city school superintendent, who ran on a pro police message and his victory speech. johnson says that he will be mayor for everyone. to the chicagoans. who did not vote for me. here's what i want you to know. here's what i want you to know. that i care about you. i value you and i want to hear from you. i want to work with you. and i'll be the mayor for youtube. mayor like brandon johnson joins me now marathon. thank you so much. we appreciate it. we have been describing this as a split screen moment. you saw what was happening here in new york were also paying attention. what was happening in chicago? did you have one eye on new york as well? do you have any thoughts on what happened
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here to the former president? well, i mean, it's certainly evidence that you know that the politics of all that have felt that just the city of chicago but the country that people are prepared and ready to reckon. and to reconcile right to bring people together around a set of values that speak to the interests of everyone. and um, i'm certainly focused here in the city of chicago and looking forward to being the mayor for the entire city. let's talk about the crime right? it was a major factor in this race, and we talked about it last time that you were here just a few days ago, you said in your victory speech that you want to invest in what actually works to prevent crime. what are those day one? what are those investments? well i mean again, it's a testament to us as democrats that we do not have to be afraid of leaning into what works and what we do know if we want to prevent crime. we have to hire young people and invest in them. there's a direct correlation between youth
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employment and violence reduction. there's a direct correlation between investing in mental health care related services. mental health professionals and violence production. um there is a direct correlation between affordable housing and good paying jobs. i mean, these are the dynamics that ultimately prevent crime. and if you are a mother or father or on door sibling, you would much rather have had the opportunity to prevent violence from happening. then having you know, provided the closure, um to solving the violence, right? so that's what this is really about. it's a real testament to what is possible just from the city of chicago. but quite frankly, um, those of us who believe in a more holistic approach around the country, you're gonna need resources to do that. and some folks believe that you're going to need more than what you promised 200 new detectives. is that enough? what other officers be hired here? well again. it's a comprehensive
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approach if we are just simply looking at putting more money into policing that has demonstrated to be a strategy that is certainly shortsighted. you know the unique opportunity that we have in this moment is to pay attention to the results that just happened here in chicago. i was very clear about what's necessary. i've said this the last time we were, we were run together. um am arguably the first mayor to wake up in the city of chicago who lives in one of the most violent neighborhoods in the entire city. and so what i want for my family, which is a better, stronger, safer community. i want that for every single family across the city of chicago and what chicago and said overwhelmingly, is that we have to get at the root causes of crime? certainly 200 more detectives that are properly trained to help solve crime, but we also have to make sure that we're investing in what works, which is making sure that we are actually adhering and enforcing the laws that are already on the books like the red flag laws. i
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mean, these are situations where individuals who have guns should not have them. we don't manufacture guns in the city of chicago, but yet they flow through our streets, and they've called incredible havoc. and so the comprehensive approach that we have put forth is something that the city of chicago overwhelmingly embraced and again, it's a testament to what can happen around the country. we don't have to be afraid down of our values. we don't have to worry about the personal attacks or the attacks from the republican party, you know, claiming that we're going to defund the police, you know, we can lean into our values and actually not just have this tough response to how we approach just a couple of have to be smart about it. a couple more questions, please short if you can. i would love concise answers because i have a lot to ask you. you know the defund the police. you made a reference to that in 2020. that slogan. um you walked it back a little or explain the nuance on this program and others. i'm not going to play but quickly. if you will. do you think that that
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hurt you in any way? i know that you won, but you think you would have won over more folks, if you have not said that. i mean, i think it's clear you know that people are smarter than you know, in many cases than the pundits give the constituents credit for. i mean, i'm i'm confident that people are fully aware that when we talk about investments that we have to be strategic and smart about it when you spin more per capita on policing here in chicago than you do anywhere else in the world, and we're still not as safe. you know, people start to call that into question. and so this is about the allocation of our resources and strategic, smart way. that's what people voted for your opponent, paul vallas conceded last night. but he says that the city is deeply divided. do you recognize the division? and where do you think the city needs to come together? because chicago, as you know, is an important city economically in this country. what absolutely , you know, i recognized the need for the city of chicago to
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come together, and that process has already begun. look, i've served as a teacher and organizer cook county commissioner happened to run a tough race four or five years ago and i was able to effectively unite not just my county district, which, of course, encompasses one of the largest bodies of government in the entire world. we brought together the entire county around these same values implementing more affordable housing, making sure we're providing healthcare, and we did that without raising property taxes. it's a very straightforward message that we invest in people without placing the burden on working families, and that's what i'm looking forward to doing once i'm sworn in in the in another 30 days, the emphasis before i let you go here. the last question is, is that in 2022 violent crime was down other crimes like car theft robbery were up the concern, of course. crime crime crime. that was a big focus in chicago. i will play this back in a year. but where do you see those stats? you see those stats down if we have you back here in one year well, what you're gonna see
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is you're going to see investments, and i'm confident with that with those investments , you know, we're going to reap the benefits of that, and that's the part that i'm encouraged about the most that people from all over the city of chicago. it's been a multicultural, intergenerational movement around a set of values that speak very plainly to working people, some confident that those investments will be fully implemented. and as a result of that, i'm certainly looking forward to making sure that we are demonstrating that our values and our investments will certainly play a role in a better, stronger, safer. chicago mayor elect johnson thank you very much. congratulations to you. also overnight on the international front. we're tracking or israeli police storming a mosque in jerusalem's old city, arresting ultimately more than 350 people after they claim that young palestinians barricaded themselves inside. we're live on the ground with new details next also happening today. taiwan's president, meeting with house speaker kevin mccarthy, they will meet in
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terrifying echoes of the worst chapters in human history. they're not only a strike against jews there also a threat to other minority communities. i stand with you. america stands with you. silence is complicity , and we will not be silent. the president added that his administration plans to release the first ever national strategy to counter anti semitism outlining actions his government plans to take overnight violent clashes erupting and israeli forces stormed the al ask mosque in jerusalem's old city more than 350 people have been arrested and at least 12 people suffered injuries. it's really police saying that they moved in after young palestinians barricaded themselves inside. armed with stones and firecrackers among hundreds of worshippers. the mosque compound is the third holiest site in islam and is also home to the holiest site in judaism known as the temple mount. fear of more violence is a big concern as the islamic holy month of ramadan in
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the jewish passover overlap. meantime, happening today, house speaker kevin mccarthy will sit down and los angeles with the president of taiwan and a meeting that is already escalating tensions between the us and china or lauren fox is live on capitol hill this morning. i mean, what we remember the outrage from china when, when nancy pelosi visited taiwan now given the balloon tiktok so much more, it seems like this comes at an even more heightened time of tension and china, saying it will quote fight back if this meeting happens. yeah. i mean, it comes in an incredibly critical moment, poppy, but i'm told from a source familiar that kevin mccarthy is not going to be deterred from who he meets with or where he goes by the chinese government. instead this meeting is expected to happen today between house speaker kevin mccarthy and taiwan's president tie the expectation today is that this meeting is going to be heavy and symbolism as kevin mccarthy has made his speakership really about the u.
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s china relationship he's really prioritize. this on capitol hill , creating that select committee on china and i'm told from the same source that kevin mccarthy wanted to ensure that this was a bipartisan meeting. so what you're going to see today in california at the ronald reagan presidential library is a group of house republicans and house democrats at this forum today, and one of those democrats is peter aguiar, who is a member of the democratic leadership. so this shows it's not just kevin mccarthy going out on a limb here. this is a bipartisan forum a disk. russian expected to happen today, and we should note that this isn't the only meeting with u. s officials the president i has had last week i'm told that three u. s senators met with the president of taiwan, including senator joni ernst dan sullivan, as well as mark kelly, another bipartisan group of lawmakers. who met last week now we should note that when house speaker nancy pelosi went to taiwan last august, the aggression from china afterward was substantial
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. and we don't know what the response is going to be. but china warned against this meeting happening today with kevin mccarthy. yeah fascinating reporting. we'll see what the response is from china because mccarthy's making clear this meeting is happening, lauren. thank you. also this morning. voters in wisconsin in wisconsin have flipped the ideological control of the state supreme court in a big moment. this could be one of the most consequential elections of the year. we're not exaggerating, will tell you which issues are at stake, plus a victory for the progressive canada in chicago's mayoral race, the windy city's own david axelrod is here and he's going to weigh in. i was bornrn here from here, and i'm never r leaving here. i'm in new york hotel. yeah i'm tall 563 ft and two inches. i'm on top of the world. i'm looking for someone who needs a weekend in the city who likes being in the
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these results i don't everyone's watching trump's speech last night, but everyone else is also keeping an eye on what was happening in wisconsin because the implications of this aren't just from abortion they could span for the next 10. years of what wisconsin looks like when it comes to their politics. there's no doubt about it katelyn polantz because donald trump, of course, only lost to joe biden by 20,000 votes in the state of wisconsin and the state supreme court had a case before it to look at those results, and only by one vote. do they come close to overturning those results that was at the center of this race as well, but it was abortion rights that really was driving. voters were told we were out there a couple weeks ago, talking to so many voters and politicians on both sides and the estate. reverted back to an 18 49 law that effectively ban abortion in nearly all cases after that, dobbs decision last year, so this is one more example as we saw in the midterm elections last fall, and here again abortion rights is still
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driving voters to the polls. but as you said, gerrymandering as well, wisconsin is a classic swing state, but it's been sort of heavily controlled by republicans in the legislature because of how those lines are drawn. all of that now is out the window because this race last night $40 million spent in the supreme court race, the most expensive judicial race ever in the country, and this candidate was really fascinating because she kind of shattered the way you see judicial races run. she talked openly about how she felt about the maps and abortion. and jeff. so i think that raises the question, given how clearly she feels about the maps. do you expect that democratic groups based on the time you spent on the ground are now going to try to bring some of these cases knowing she will be one playing a role in those without a doubt. i mean, there are going to be a cases on abortion on gerrymandering on other matters, and it is very unusual. you might say, why is wisconsin electing supreme court judges anyway? well it's actually one of 14 states, according to the brennan center for justice that directly elects its supreme court justices is just how it is done there and in many other
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states, and it did become a very it's a technically non partisan , but practically it was anything but that the wisconsin democratic party through millions and millions of dollars into this republicans did not do as much on their side. but there were all these outside groups spending so much money, but this is going to have an effect on 2024. simply because of how rules are voting. the a drop boxes where people are dropping off early ballots and things those have been outlawed as well . look for cases to come before the supreme court on that. so this is why this was viewed as the most important race in 2023 . i do not think that that is an overstatement at all, caitlyn. expensive race. jeff zeleny. thank you for that. you bet. so let's discuss everything we can politically right now. joining us our cnn senior political commentator and former senior adviser to president barack obama, mister david axelrod. good morning to you. good morning, you guys. first of all , let me say you've just got you've earned your anchor stripes because you said protege
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wits. thank you correctly. that is a that is a very hard name to pronounce much help as i need on pronunciations. i really will take that badge of honor to have this discussion all the time pronunciation. i'm the worst and i think caitlin's improving by the day that was good job. you say it really fast, which is people can't really yeah, it all morning. i'm glad, because that's where i want to start with. you will get a show going to start with that, because the liberal justices when in wisconsin is going to determine how the court is going to rule legally legal challenges to wisconsin. 18 to 49 18 excuse me , 18 49 law abortion that took effect. rovi wade was overturned. how significant? do you think this is? david i think it's hugely significant for all the reasons that jeff just said , and that's the reason that $49 million was spent on the supreme court rates. we could have a whole separate discussion. about the propriety of that. but but,
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you know, i think the future of abortion rights was on the ballot. i think that the election of 24 will be profoundly, uh, impacted by it. you know, last night we were all focused on donald trump. has donald trump probably likes but but the truth is this race in wisconsin has big implications for 24. it may may have been the more important story than the one we saw yesterday, which is going to be a long running one. think that discussion? um you know, off camera? yeah yeah. so that in chicago, i think were real tangible. major events yesterday that probably got overlooked because of the spectacle here in new york. do you think they mean a lot? um outside of chicago and wisconsin , respectively? yes well, obviously, if the if the decisions that they were wisconsin supreme court makes has an implication for abortion rights that has national implications and the rules and
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the administration of the election in wisconsin in 2020 for probably the most closely divided state, certainly in the north. ah you know? yes. i think that one had big implications. and in chicago, you you, you know, you just spoke to our mayor elect. uh he is taking the city. he's going to take the city in a different direction. this was really a referendum on how to how to approach public safety, which is that was the 1st, 2nd and 3rd most important issues to voters in chicago, and he had a much different approach than his opponent who really emphasized, adding 818 100, new police and brandon johnson said no, we've got to invest elsewhere. now he has to make it work. different direction. how soon well his his point and it's not a bad one is chicago already even though there has been a reduction of police over the last few years has, uh, vastly more police than los angeles per
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capita even more than new york and yet worse results, so it isn't just a matter of policing . it's a matter of violence, prevention and what you can do to reduce poverty in some of the communities in the city, so he uh, he represented that he had in the past that tucked he had talked about defunding police and really what he meant was shifting resources to mental health and some other areas that were being short changed. the issue is going to be brandon johnson's never run anything larger than a classroom when he was a teacher, and now he's running the third largest city, third largest city in the country, and that's a big jump, and we'll see how he deals with that, and the second is, how will the city's police react? the police union chief who was supporting his opponent, who and who is really a very right wing force in the city? predicted that 1000 police would resign if johnson was elected.
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complicating factor of that, and i think we always try to read until elections of what does it mean in los angeles? what does it mean? what's happening with lori life that we talked about how impactful that was voters rejecting tough on crime measures because the margin here was was not that that 51.4 to 48.6 is very divide. listen there is real real concern about crime in chicago, and he needs to be focused on that. and he needs to be focused on how to deal with the police department and his relationship with the police department, even as he pursues these other things, so it's a big challenge. but poppy, you ask, why is this a nationally important election? not just because of the model that he's going to try and implement, but he also was an iconic figure with progressives he started at 2% captured the imagination of city had bernie sanders had elizabeth warren. he is going to be a prominent progressive figure in our politics. from this point on david, this is probably a big question and then don't get mad at me producers because i have
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to ask you this if you can do it shortly. how does because i live there under mayor daley? is it? how does it feel? not having you know, the daily machine, the city feel different now under different regimes under different mayors. well, you know, there was a sense of solidity. right this was you know, the daily name they were half a century. basically they ran chicago. so it was a little bit like lake michigan. you know, it was like a staple always there, and people felt comfortable with that. but, you know, i think people also what they voted for here was changed and they're gonna get it. yeah. thank you. great to see you. campaign about change. yes i've heard yes, and change. my wife always says you you'd like to run campaigns about change, but you really don't like it yourself. better to make other people affect extract. ex david will. fox news says it will put some of its biggest name anchors on the stand. to testify in that billion dollar plus defamation case brought by dominion voting
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compelled, or at least take the stand. not compelled. facts would dispute that, but they're going to likely take the stand in this trial, and so you're going to have these people people like tucker carlson, sean hannity, maria bartiromo, testifying about their broadcasting of election lies, and you're also probably going to see testimony showing that executives over at the network people like suzanne scott or jay wallace knew that these um, claims that trump was making in the aftermath of the 2020 election or nonsensical were delusional, but they still allowed some of these conspiracies receipts got the text work. they have the text that have emails and they're going to have a live testimony at this trial and under oath. i imagine these people will be very honest about what they knew and what they allowed on the network. the logical question is why not a settlement? because at this point, wouldn't you think fox would fill sort of compelled to settle and rather than go to court and have all of this exposure, everyone you know that i talk to says that fox should settle this, but they haven't. i mean, they've let it get to this
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stage, and they are preparing to go to trial. this trial does start just in in a couple of weeks. april 13th is jury selection, so that's next week and then the trial will actually get underway on april 17th unless there is a last medal minute midnight settlement. two parties have to want to settle. who's to say dominion wants to settle another thing dominion might want take this to trial and you know, this might be about more than a billion bucks. i think this is about more than a billion bucks. thanks, oliver. have fun in delaware. i'll send you some restaurant recommendations. lot of time. backyard lot of time there. um all right, this just in some serious news. we are told there are multiple injuries and multiple fatalities in missouri after we earlier we're talking about a tornado that had touched down early this morning. obviously the worst tornadoes are those nocturnal ones, officials say it's an active search and rescue event will take you live to the ground. next man. hi phil swiwift here. this is flex superglue.
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we are in the commercial break. sometimes we just forget we're on television. so this morning, the former president is waking up as a criminal defendant accused of orchestrating hush money scheme ahead of the 2016 election, his next in person hearing with manhattan prosecutors that will be scheduled for that is scheduled for december. 4th so back with us now cnn anchoring correspondent audie cornish, who's the host of the assignment , podcasts, also with us. nick akerman, former assistant u. s attorney for the southern district of new york and the former assistant special watergate prosecutor, nick i want to get your take aways because so many people are saying it's a weak case is weak case and as i've been reading through this i don't know if there is that. what do you think? i'm not sure? no absolutely not. i think this is an extremely strong case. first of all, he just start with the evidence. anytime i had to accomplish witnesses in a criminal prosecution, i felt i had a strong case, especially if you've got the corroboration like you have here with a tape recording lots of documents that back everybody up, but then on
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top of this, you've got other witnesses that were called in such as, um. oh the his people around him that were involved in all this. michael cohen was it wasn't just michael cohen. but cohen and pecker, the chiefs witnesses, but you've got hope. hicks you've got others have been called in. you've got all these people that were called into the a g s investigation that are locked in stone on their depositions. so this in a sense is a strong case in terms of what they're trying to prove. there's really not much of a legal issue on the felony part of this in an underlying crime. the underlying crime is going to be false tax returns for the corporation every time they put in false expenses. those false expenses went to the corporate tax return that was then filed with new york state. it's a felony criticism because you've sat in that chair, right, so
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like for you when you hear people saying this is more complicated than it looks these weren't the right charges. this isn't the right time for someone who sat in that seat. what do you hear? when you hear people say that they don't know what they're talking about, because there's a lot more evidence here. that's going to come out at trial to show how this relates your going to get an accountant to testify. very boring testimony basically, following the numbers from the michael cohen checks right into the tax return is filed in new york state. in addition, this case is important. it really is the book end to ooh! what happened in the 2024 2020 100 next election? basically i mean what he did in the last election was essentially make up a big lie about election fraud. and i'm based on that, like committed a whole series of felonies that related to false electors, um, trying to importune state officials to change the electoral vote for biden. and in this case, what he
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did was he. basically it was a lie of omission ally of trying to conceal information from the voting public. with all these prosecutors are trying to prove you're saying what he did, but this is their challenge right over the next couple of well, they're going to be able to prove that i mean, they've got two witnesses who are basically going to lay that out. david pecker and michael cohen. and so that's the thrust of it on top of it all, and they also had a plot not only to stop negative information from appearing in the national enquirer, but they were also going after trump's competitors. i mean, they haven't detailed that in the complaint, but boy, i'd love to know which republicans which democrats were, you know, hung out to dry. in the national enquirer during the 2016 election. i mean, this is a very , very serious situation revolving around this indictment that people have not focused on and have to look at it as two bookends. one trump getting elected to presidency in 2016 and then trying to hold onto the
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presidency. through a false scheme. the fraudulent scheme. yeah. yes ah, yes, early. they're like we have 30 seconds left to talk about one thing that gaudi, which i noticed yesterday, as i was up to the courthouse is trump have been calling on all these protests. they didn't materialize certainly not the way that he had expected. not even around the country. really? yeah i mean, when new york city wants to clamp down and make a kind of security situation, they can do it. so first of all, i think it was just hard. but second of all, what's the incentive right now? after seeing what happened to folks with january six. i'm sure people don't feel as compelled to turn out in the streets in the papers all over the country. every major paper. it's on the front. this photograph is yeah. hey thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. we'll see you tomorrow. cnn's new central starts right now.

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