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really, explain what is going to happen and what he's going to announce and give us sort of the pre-press conference here. >> i want to mention because the -- >> tyre nichols and former mpd officers. immediately upon learning about this, d.a. mulroy, shelby county district attorney steve mulry enlisted the tbi to determine if excessive force had been used and since then, the d.a.'s office has worked with tbi, and we will continue to do so. today you will hear from d.a. mulroy along with the director of tbi, david ralph, and so i want to just make it very clear, and ask for your understanding that this is still an ongoing investigation, and so for that reason, there are limits to some of the things and some of the questions that we can answer. so we ask for your understanding
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as it relates to that, and i will turn it over to d.a. mulroy, and did i mention that we will take questions after, but they will be -- we have a really limited amount of time. so, thank you. >> thank you. good afternoon, everybody. thank you for coming. i'm joined today as ms. williams has already said with the director of the tennessee bureau of investigation, david rausch as well as assistant director josh milton. i'm also joined by other members of my staff, including earnest brooks, ray lupone, and also most relevant for today, the trial team in the tyre nichols case including paul hagerman and tanisha johnson. we're here today because of a tragedy that wounds one family
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deeply, but also hurts us all, the death of tyre nichols. we understand and acknowledge the grief that the friends and family of tyre nichols are experiencing right now as well as the great concern throughout all of memphis and shelby county about this case. we met several times this week with the family of tyre nichols. they described an almost perfect son, a cheerful and happy person who enjoyed skateboarding and sunsets over shelby farms park. we're grateful to the family of tyre nichols for their patience as we expedited both the investigation and the consideration of charges in this case as well as the understanding on the part of the fa family, that premature release of the video could compromise both. and we did work quickly to expedite this investigation
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because of the extraordinary nature of the case compared to the average prosecution decisions in a case like this. we worked swiftly, but also fairly, and most importantly in a way calculated to ensure that we have a strong case. as you might have heard from ms. williams in this case and any other, officer-involved fatality case, i immediately called in the tbi so that we could have an independent investigation. i also assigned to the newly created justice review unit within my office which works independently and separately both from law enforcement and the rest of my staff to make a truly objective recommendation about whether criminal charges were appropriate. i want to thank the tbi, the justice review unit, and the trial team for working swiftly but thoroughly under very difficult conditions. earlier today, the grand jury returned indictments against five former memphis police department officers regarding
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the death of tyre nichols. these are the same five officers who were previously or recently terminated by the memphis police department. they are currently in custody. they are tadarrius bean, demetrius haley, emmitt martin iii, desmond mills jr., and justin smith. the grand jury returned indictments against all five with the same charges, and we have previously met with the family of tyre nichols to go over what these charges were going to be, and that meeting with the family i think went rather well. here are the charges. second degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping resulting in bodily injury,
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aggravated kidnapping involving the possession of a weapon, official misconduct through unauthorized exercise of power, official misconduct through failure to act when there is a duty imposed by a law, and official oppression. while each of the five individuals played a different role in the incident in question, the actions of all of them resulted in the death of tyre nichols, and they are all responsible. it's important to note as ms. williams said, that this is still an ongoing investigation, and therefore there are limits on what we can say about this case. we ask for everyone's continued patience as we continue to vigorously seek justice in this case. we also know that the public is very concerned about whether they can see the video about this incident and the timing of the release of this -- the video of this incident.
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i have been in regular contact with the city of memphis, the kcustodian of that record, and can tell you that the city will be releasing the video sometime after 6:00 p.m. friday, tomorrow, and that the city of memphis should be making a statement somewhat later on this afternoon regarding the timing of that release. let me close by saying both to the family of tyre nichols and to the broader community of shelby county, we all want the same thing. we all want justice for tyre nichols. it's my hope that if there is any silver lining to be drawn from this very dark cloud, it's that perhaps this incident can open a broader conversation about the need for police reform. the world is watching us, and we need to show the world what lessons we can learn from this
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tragedy. i'm hopeful that we can show them who i know us to be, a community working towards positive change here in memphis and shelby county. with that, let me ask director rausch to step forward. >> thank you, d.a. mulroy. good afternoon. i'm david rausch, director of the tennessee bureau of investigation. first and foremost and most importantly, on behalf of the tennessee bureau of investigation, i want to extend my deepest condolences to the family and friends of tyre nichols. my prayer is that god will wrap his comforting arms around you and keep you during this very difficult time. we can't imagine the pain you're experiencing, but let me reaffirm, we are here to pursue truth and justice, realizing
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that we should not be here. simply put, this shouldn't have happened. i have been policing for more than 30 years. i have devoted my life to this profession, and i'm grieved. fr frankly, i'm shocked. i'm sickened by what i saw, and what we've learned through our extensive and thorough investigation, i've seen the video, and as d.a. mulroy stated, you will too. in a word, it's absolutely appalling. let me be clear. what happened here does not at all reflect proper policing. this was wrong. this was criminal. the depth and breadth of the charges announced today speaks
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to the deliberate and thorough investigation that this case has rece received, and our work is not finished. we continue to pursue every lead. justice demands it, and our agency exists so that guilt shall not escape, nor innocence suffer. to that end, i want to publicly thank our agents, our forensic scientist, our support staff, and our entire team around the state. they worked diligently to expedite this case. we've worked as hard as we could and as quickly as we could to provide a thorough, independent, unbiased investigative record to allow d.a. mulroy and his team to make the most informed decision they could regarding these charges. i also want to thank the memphis police department and the city leaders for their cooperation in this case, which i want to stress, is ongoing at this time.
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thank you. >> i'll -- >> we'll take a few questions. >> d.a. mulroy, i was wondering if -- >> let's make sure that -- one at a time. >> one, and then two. >> you said the investigation is ongoing. does that include other officers that were there, and could also include other people involved? >> nothing we did today procluds t -- procoecludes any of the act investigation. thank you. >> we have not heard from the police chief or the general description of what occurred in the initial stop. any kind of a timeline of what exactly occurred on that day. i'm hoping perhaps you or the director there can explain to us, just give us a, you know, as much as possible timeline of the
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events. he was stopped. was this a legal stop? why was he stopped? and then sort of continue to explain perhaps what happened in the moments after that. as much as possible. >> right. i don't want to go into too much detail, and i suspect that all of your answers along those lines will, you know, be forthcoming once you have a chance to view the video for yourself. i know that a lot of this has already been publicly released, but there was an initial traffic stop, and we won't comment right now on the presence, absence of legality of the stop. there were several officers there with mr. nichols. pepper spray was deployed. the suspect -- or not the suspect, mr. nichols, fled on foot. there was another altercation at a nearby location at which the serious injuries were experienced by mr. nichols.
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after some period of time after waiting around afterwards, he was taken away by an ambulance. beyond that, i don't really think we should twogo into any further detail. >> there was a delay for the police calling the ambulance? >> there was an elapsed period of time, but if you watch the video, you'll be able to make that judgment for yourself. i'm trying to fgive everyone a chance. >> i'm from cbs news. is it known if tyre nichols had previously known these former officers? >> we have no information to disclose about that at this time. i don't know why chief davis isn't here. >> sit just body camera video, or dashcam video, surveillance? what kind of video? >> the actual release will be up to the city of memphis. my understanding is it'll be sky cop video and body cam video.
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>> one more question. >> is it true there will be a review of specialized communities within the memphis police department, two questions first. were these members of that organized crime yuunit, and wil your office be involved in that investigation? >> we have announced a review of those specialized units. i commend chief davis for doing that. i think chief davis is committed to try to do whatever she can to learn lessons from this incident. i don't contemplate that our office would be involved in that review. i think that's -- >> are they members of the organized crime unit? >> scorpions. >> i think it's already been reported publicly that scorpion unit was involved. >> thank you. >> is that it? okay. i'm being told that's it. thank you very much. thank you.
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>> okay. you were just listening to that press conference where we got a little bit more information than the district attorney gave us here. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. so all right. kidnapping is any unlawful confinement of another which substantially restrains someone's liberty. at a certain point in the sequence of events, it is our view that this, if it was illegal detention to begin with, it certainly became illegal at some point, and it was unlawful detention. the aggravated nature of the charge is because if that kidnapping resulted in bodily injury, that's one grounds for saying that it is aggravated kidnapping. if the persons involved in that unlawful restraint of liberty possessed weapons, that is another ground for saying that the kidnapping was aggravated. do you want me to explain the other charges as well, or -- okay. so official misconduct is when any public official acting part of their official duties
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intentionally or knowingly acts in a way, exercises authority that is unauthorized by law. right? that's an affirmative statement, an affirmative act of official misconduct. at the same time, law enforcement officials who are on duty are also under an affirmative duty to prevent official misconduct and to accurately report information to any medical personnel that show up, and through inaction when there was a duty imposed by law, that could also be a separate ground for charging official misconduct. official oppression is a related statute. it's not exactly the same. there is some overlap, but not perfect overlap. it's an official knowing mistreatment in the course of carrying out their official duties. aggravated assault, i think, is fairly obvious, and under the
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laws of tennessee. second degree murder is a knowing killing. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. we're good. all right. so there we two. so the district attorney there describing some of the charges that he told us pre-press conference, before the press conference about exactly the kidnapping charge or whatever, so just explaining it to the other reporters in the room, but this is what we heard. as i bring sara sidner, and she has been following this, let's talk about what he did. this is an area of direct communications and what was happening through the process. the district attorney then coming on, talking about tyre nichols, who he was, someone that liked to watch sunsets in the park and loved his mom and was a skateboarder, and then they said they worked quickly to expedite this case because of
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the nature. they worked swiftly, but they worked fairly. the tbi, the tennessee bureau of investigation and others are helping them. they did, i thought it was interesting. they said that they met with the nichols family, sara. >> the family was -- seemed to be at least -- >> pre-charges. >> yeah. okay with what was going forward. they wanted them to know what was going on, but you know what really sunk in with me that was a moment where you don't hear this all the time? it's when the director of the tbi, the tennessee bureau of investigation says, i am grieved. i am shocked. i am sickened by what happened. it's absolutely appalling. >> he said appalling. david rausch said that. >> david rausch. he saw the video. he said he saw the video. so even he was shocked by what he saw from these five officers in particular, and he said they're working quickly as they
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can. so fwguilt shall not escape, no innocence suffer. >> he said appalling, this does not reflect proper policing, and he said the depth and breadth of this speaks to what happened and how we are working on this, and what they're going to do, but again, i thought it was interesting that they respected the family. they did not get the first degree murder charges they wanted, but they did respect the family. we have a statement from the family that i would like to read. >> we do. >> if you can get it up on yours quicker than mine, then you can get it. it's coming from the office of ben crump and the family's statement. the official statement that these officers have been accounted for, gives us hope as we continue to push for justice for tyre. this man lost his life in a particularly disgusting manner that points to the desperate need for change and reform to ensure this violence stops
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occurring during low threat procedures like in this case, a traffic stop. this tragedy meets the absolute definition of a needless and unnecessary death. tyre's loved ones' lives were forever changed when he was beaten to death, and we will keep saying his name until justice is served. that's from attorneys crump and romanucci who are the family attorneys. >> yeah, and i think, you know, you're thinking about a family that is now thinking about burying their child. >> mm-hmm. >> because of what the police said was a traffic stop. i'm curious as to what we're going to actually see on the video. will we see the whole process because of the cameras? they talk about the cameras. pole camera, sky camera, and body camera. they've watched each one and come to this decision and a grand jury turned indictments against all five, and all five will face the same charges, and
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there are quite a few. i think seven in total. >> let's talk to -- let's bring in now joy jackson and john miller to discuss this. and simone is standing by. he's not going to join us. he's at a different camera. is that correct? okay. okay. so we're kind of flying blind here, but you were inside the press conference. >> yeah. >> can you take us through -- what was it like being inside the press conference, and you heard the district attorney. he went into further detail about why they came up with the charges, the weight of the charges and what they meant. >> right. i generally do feel they probably should have taken more questions and explained some more of what happened that day, and it seems that they're just completely relying on the release of the video for us to see for ourselves exactly how
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everything took place, and that's fine, but i do still think that we need an accounting from officials about how everything unfolded that day. noticeably -- i thought it was noticeable the fact that the memphis police department chief was not present here. i asked the d.a. about that. he didn't seem to know why she wasn't here. the investigators were here. one of the things that's very interesting, i did ask the d.a. a little bit about what happened that day, and he was willing to give a little bit. he said it was a traffic stop. he wouldn't talk about whether it was legal or not, and he said there was an encounter there at that traffic stop, and that pepper spray was used. other methods were used and then tyre nichols ran, and there was a pursuit, and then it was at that second location when they find him and encounter him, when the officers encounter him again, that is where this all takes place, where they allege he was beaten, and what is significant in that moment, the
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d.a. indicates is that there was a time that went by, it seems, before medical care, before emts treated him. it seems the d.a. indicating that there was some delay in getting him that care. now i don't know exactly how that went, and obviously the d.a. wouldn't talk about that, but those few facts are some of the new things we've learned and we've also learned that the unit that stopped tyre nichols is this -- what's called a scorpion unit. they are an anti-crime unit. there are some in plainclothes and sometimes in an unmarked car. i believe that was this case. this is an anti-crime unit. we've heard about anti-crime units in other cities and their goal is really to fight crime, right? social it's to do these car stops and get guns off the streets.
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i would be curious to know more about that. i would like to know more information about the officers that day, and what transpired and it was interesting to listen to the head of the investigation, the man who has been running this investigation, the tbi director who made it very clear that in all his years of law enforcement, i think he said some 30 years, that this was wrong, that this was criminal, and that justice demanded these charges and that i thought was very significant to hear from someone, an individual who certainly is running this investigation, but has been in law enforcement for some 30 years, and i think if you go across the country right now based on what everybody knows, law enforcement all across the country, much like what we saw after george floyd, is pretty upset over what we're about to see tomorrow in this video. >> the perfect person to talk about that is -- >> yeah. >> i'm glad you mentioned the scorpion unit and what you said about what's happening with law enforcement across the country
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because i want -- john miller is a perfect person to talk about that. joy jackson and john miller joins us. you heard talking about the scorpion unit, and i want to discuss that, but i want to get your overall impressions of what happened at this press conference, the charges, and what led to, you know, the beating death of this young man. >> well, a remarkable press conference. you can tell where everybody's, you know, state of logic and emotion is on this. you heard david rausch, the director of the tbi as shimon alluded to. he not only said he was appalled, but almost sidestepped into a benediction giving a blessing to the family for their suffering and offering them god's help. you don't usually see that in the normally, somewhat defensive posture of law enforcement agencies investigating other law enforcement agencies. so, you know, we take that as another sign of what we see
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coming. we did learn new details, which is that there was a traffic stop. they didn't say what exactly the stop was for, although the police said in their initial statement, reckless driving, that there was a confrontation with tyre nichols at the traffic stop that resulted in him being pepper sprayed. i believe that's the first time we heard that, that he then fled on foot, and what we learned from the police radio tapes that we heard today, don, was one of the officers from the scorpion unit gets on the air and says, what is the address this car is registered to? it's a couple of blocks this way and a couple of blocks that way, and they put the address over the radio. so they shifted their search to see if the suspect was running home, and that's where they encounter tyre nichols for the second confrontation which results in this long, protracted beating. my understanding from police sources is that some of that occurred after he was in
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handcuffs, which exacerbates the situation. you've got this team, a couple of them have body cameras. a couple of them do not, and then there's a pole camera or what they refer to as the sky camera in memphis, that is owned by the police department that records the rest of this from above. so i believe what authorities are doing today is bringing some justice and buying some time before they release that video. >> sara and i both noted they said there was a pole camera, a sky camera, and then b body camera. is there a -- what's the difference between pole camera and sky camera? >> same thing. the sky camera is the name they give to the cameras that they put on poles around memphis, and then the scorpion unit. so the scorpion unit was started on december 12, 2021 in response to a spaight of shootings, violence, gunfire, carjackings,
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car thefts in memphis. they put together 50 police officers, put them in plainclothes with bullet proof vests that said police on them, unmarked cars that did not look like unmarked cars necessarily, a pickup truck, a dodge challenger, a charger, and sent them out to crime hot spots to engage. within their first three weeks, they were lauded for picking up 338 arrests. that's a very aggressive posture in three weeks. 135 of those were felonies and the others were for weapons. they were supposed to be an elite crime-fighting unit part of the organized crime section, and then you have this, which raises the question, why were officers who had two and three years of experience, the most six years was the most time on for those officers, not that experienced when you consider
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that those who might be 10 or 12 or 15-year veterans that go into the specialized units and without a supervisor. >> yeah. >> john, i have a quick question for you because you were talking about the scorpion unit. we have talked to someone who came into contact if you will with the scorpion unit, who said that he was scared out of his mind because the cars were unmarked. they all came up, a large group, but something that happened during the dispatch audio sparked my attention, and i'm curious what you think about hearing the dispatch audio where you just mentioned they said, you know, let's check the plates, see where he lives. if you think a car is stolen, if you think someone has done something that's potentially dangerous for the officers, world you not have already run the tags when you pulled up in the first place? would you not have time to just run the tags? that's usually what they do. i have been pulled over before. >> they didn't speak to the
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nature of the stop. that's a very good question. >> so i mean, on the stop, you might put the tag over as you are doing the stop, and it will run for warrants of, is it a wanted felon or a warrant. we're not sure that happened, and they ran it. he specifically asks for, what's the address that car comes back to? sara, to your point, at that point he's operating on the information that it's not stolen, that it's the driver's car, and they're going to go to that address and start looking for him which is exactly what they did. they found him 80 yards from home, and that's the second confrontation where they end up beating him to the extent that it causes his death days later. >> yeah. i want to bring in joey jackson now, and if we can put up the names of the officers on the screen because i think it's important to point out who exactly is being charged here. justin smith is one of the
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officers. emmitt martin iii, desmond mills, demetrius haley, and tadarrius bean. joey, the charges, second degree murder, aggravated assault, two charges of aggravated kidnapping, two charges of official misconduct. one charge of official oppression, and that is now official. it was earlier according to the shelby county criminal court records. now it's official according to the shelby county district attorney. these are serious charges. what do they carry and what are they fay facing? >> a few things that are significant. the first is they charged this after evaluating the video, and making a determination that all of them should be charged with the same thing. why is that relevant? it's relevant because defense attorneys commonly argue that mere presence is not enough, and that's the law. in the event that you're simply there, but not engaging in anything to further the course of conduct, it doesn't constitute a crime.
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why is that significant? it's significant because it then would demonstrate that upon an evaluation of that video tape that all of those parties charged were active participants with respect to the underlying crime. that is very important because it also goes to the issue of whether or not they acted, they didn't act, they had a duty to intervene. they didn't do that. we could only, without having seen the video tape, imagine the significance of five officers engaging in this level of just, you know, oppression, of an individual who now no longer is with us due to the conduct. to your question, when you look at the first charge, don, as it relates to the murder, i'm sure a lot of people are wondering. first degree, second degree, what's the distinction? there's two distinctions. the first is in terms of the level of intent. if you charge first degree murder, the prosecutor then has to dmon emonstrate you acted wi premeditate. second degree murder on the
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other hand, you have to demonstrate that it was a knowing killing as you heard the prosecutor say. what does that mean? it means you have to appreciate and know that the nature of your conduct could cause a death, and so the prosecution will argue that you can't tell me in looking at the video, the prosecution i'm sure will say, as a result of your conduct that you cannot appreciate that someone might die as a result. very important, right? now you look to the punishment. first degree is life, or life without parole. second degree murder charge, you're looking at 15 to 60 years under the tennessee statutes and then of course, as the prosecutor spoke to the other charges relating to the not only assault, but the aggravated nature, the prosecutor himself saying, hey. you know what that means. we can all anticipate that what we're going to see is pretty grim on the video, and of course, when it talks to the issue of kidnapping, yes, officers may stop and detain you, don, sara, under the appropriate set of
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circumstances. did you have reasonable suspicion? did you have probable cause, right? we'll find out whether the stop itself was legitimate, but even if the stop is legitimate, there comes a point based upon your conduct where you can exceed that legitimacy by detaining someone unlawfully against their will, and so these charges, very significant and very important, and they can land all of these officers in jail, essentially if it's 15 to 60 years, for the rest of their natural lives. >> what do you think the -- what is the thinking behind -- i guess john or joey if you can answer it, but probably more for john, of releasing this video tape after 6:00 on a friday. >> so it's very countersbrintui. the last thing you want to do is take a high tension event and increase tension to it on a friday night knowing that people don't have to be at work in the morning and they have the whole weekend ahead of them. on the other hand there's a
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tradeoff here which is wohat i believe their strategy is, to get the district attorney to show the wheels of justice are turning and turning relatively quickly for that machine to bring the most serious charges, to bring the kind of serious charges that they can unite the faith community in memphis, the voice of the family and the family's lawyers, and the key community contacts to spend all day, the rest of today, and tonight, and much of tomorrow saying to people, you should protest, but it should be peaceful, and we don't want to lose our city to letting this get out of hand either from outside agitators or people who don't represent the community. >> can i speak to that, john? because i spoke with the senior pastor of the church where mr. nichols will be remembered, and they will do a celebration of life, and his funeral will be there on wepdnesday, and he sai something similar. he said, i am not involved in any of this business, but to what he is hearing because he's
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been in situations with activists. he's been in situations with activists, the police activists and the district attorney over this case, and he's said, you know, the one thing over and over and over again the people said they needed was some accountability, and the charges were the thing that was important to them, to see charges. >> they want to see the video tape. >> they want to see the video tape, but even more than that, they want to make sure that if a police officer who is supposed to be professional, keep the peace, serve and protect, if they do something that is illegal, that they are punished for that, or at least charged with the crime like you or i or anyone else would be, and so that, he said, was extremely important to deal with the high emotions that are already here, but what you are seeing in the city now is peace. there hasn't even been a protest
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that has broken out. people are watching. they're waiting to see what happens, and the pastor was very clear in saying, if these things exist, it'll lower the chance of there being a huge response that turns violent. he says that there are activists here that are trying to prevent that from happening. they have been in talks with the d.a., trying to have transparency. the family has had some transparency because they got to see the video first which is the way most families want it. so they are going to things to try and quell this explosion of emotion. >> everything they're doing is trying to tamp down the even the possibility of violence here. >> absolutely. >> they may not have gotten it 100% right, but they're trying to. shimon who was in the room also reporting earlier that after this press conference from the district attorney that the officers' attorneys would also
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be holding a press conference, and that's coming up shortly. >> right. yeah, don. so that should be in the next hour or so. the attorneys, and i think it's, you know, it's important to hear what they have to say because it's, you know, at this point, we're hearing from every law enforcement official that, you know, this is a pretty brutal situation, and there really was no justification for this, but these two attorneys do plan to defend their client and they plan to have this press conference where they're going to take questions from the media. you know, and on the video, i just want to make a point that it's not just memphis that is concerned about this. it's all across the country. law enforcement is gearing up for this, and that's one of the things that i think has struck some people as odd is the fact they would be releasing this the way they're releasing it, and so late tomorrow, and we still don't know how it's going to play out. we know that it's going to be the city and the memphis police that are going to be ultimately waiting for that to develop, and
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i want to point out that there's so much more that we still don't know in this investigation, and while the d.a. was at the podium, he made it very clear because this is still an ongoing investigation and that other folks, other people can still face charges, there are two emts that were suspended and removed from duty. we don't know the status of them, but certainly as the d.a. is indicating, leave it to you, don. they're being very careful about what they're releasing, but i think more information needs to come out because there is still a lot of holes here and a lot of gaps, and i suppose once we see the video tomorrow, it'll be answered, don. >> and still the possibility of more charges. shimon, thank you very much. sara, i appreciate all of you. joey jackson, and john miller in new york. in the meantime, i'll send it back to my colleague in new york, victor blackwell. we have continuing coverage here in memphis, tennessee.
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that video going to be released tomorrow after 6:00 which is surprising to many people on a friday evening, that it would be released, and now we're getting an official word from the district attorney on the charges of these officers. they could face more, and also the two emts from the fire department, who are they? >> yeah. >> what were their actions or inaction in this situation? so there's a lot more to come. >> don, thank you for that coverage there in memphis. in just a moment, we'll talk with some city officials and try to get answers to those questions now that these five memphis officers or former officers have been charged in the death of tyre nichols. i'll speak to the memphis city council president and vice chair about the charges and the decision to release this video after dark on a friday night. this video, so many people have been waiting for. our coverage continues after the break. anand effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restfuful sleep per night. proven quality sleepep. only from sleep number.
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w more now on our breaking news on the beating death of they have all been charged with second-degree second degree murder. gentlemen. as i've listened to the. >> accountability we have been asking for, and i think the district attorney as well as those investigative bodies have been delivered. now our next step is going to see what the -- what the video actually looks like, and we hoped that since we've delivered since our accountability that the community will accept our steps being taken justice to those individuals for this act. >> there is day or more
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depending upon the timing of the release of the video, and we know it'll be 6:00 p.m. local time there. a day between the announcement of the charges and when everyone gets to see this video, and everything that's happened up to this point has been aimed at trying to quell any possibility of violence or vandalism as a reaction to what they say. what should happen, what will you be doing over this next day to continue to try to eliminate that possibility? >> well, working with community leaders, i think you talk about what's transpired, what's necessary as he is reaching out to the community organizers reaching out to the past, the preachers, at large, and that's built on faith. i think the faith-based community will have a significant impact on quelling any potential dangers of protest. i think what you will see in memphis, you will see protests and they will be peaceful because the memphis police department, the sheriff's
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department, the district attorney as well as the administration have taken all the necessary steps to quell any potential of uprising. >> mr. jones, if the goal is and as i said, it seems as if everyone is focused on this goal, knowing the descriptions of this video, is to eliminate or reduce the possibility of violence or vandalism, what's your thought on releasing this on a friday evening when most people don't have to go to work over the weekend, how does that contribute to the goal of eliminating those possibilities? >> well, if you go back to our city council meeting on tuesday, we have members of the community to come down and they were asking for the release of the video. we have provided that, but in anticipation of that though, what is also taking place is that the charges have been
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levered against those individuals responsible, so i guess if i were of the administration and so this was an administrative issue, not a legislative issue that the city council would have been responsible for, i probably would have done it on a different day to be honest with you. >> you think you would have held it until monday morning? >> yes. >> do you expect that these -- these charges, the accountability that we've all been talking about will be enough, mr. jones, to quell the violence -- potential violence, pote potential vandalism? >> i wasn't able to hear the district attorney's press conference from the beginning, but hearing the dialogue, i trust that you all have, you know, really are just regurgitating what he said. i feel that based upon the circumstances of this case and what would be required -- i'm not a lawyer, and my colleague mr. smiley is the lawyer here, but based upon the circumstances of this case, they need to have something that they feel they can get a conviction of, and i
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think that that's what they've brought before us. >> mr. smiley, what do you think about the release of this video on a friday night? we heard from the chairman of the council that he would have held it until monday. would you have? >> well, i actually agree with the chairman councilman jones, but i think it'll give the end they're receiving which is quelling any potential violence. they have the charges. the individuals are arrested. they are in kcustody. the community was very vocal in wanting to see the individuals arrested, but the immediate release of the body cam footage. the officers have been arrested and charged, and we will see the body cam footage. i think they accomplished the goal, and that's easing the protesting of the city of memphis. >> montavious jones, and mr. smiley jr., thank you very much. don lemon, there we have it.
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on this question of why release it, you hear from the chair and vice chair, they disagree with that. they would have held it until monday, but so many people there and around the country want to see this video. >> reporter: well, i think it's important to get the community reaction and so victor, thank you for that. why don't we get the community reaction from someone else here, and that is van turner, the president of the naacp. some folks early heard the councilman saying he would have held off until monday to release this video tape. i don't think you have the same sentiment about that. >> i mean, i think you need to allow people to exercise their first amendment right. obviously if it's over the weekend, there's probably a better chance that you can engage with more citizens, and i don't expect there to be, you know, violence because there's been transparency. the officers have been terminated, they have been charged. we know that the video will be bad. we know that there will be
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protests, but having citizens come out over the weekend to share that frustration with what has occurred may not be a bad idea. >> so listening to the press conference that happened earlier, everything that transpired today, how are you feeling about the situation? obviously it's a horrendous situation, but the handling of the situation, the way the d.a.'s handling the situation, and the police department? >> i think it's gone well. they have been transparent. they have not tried to cover up anything. chief c.j. davis has come out and said there was a failure on behalf of these officers. they didn't follow policy. they didn't follow how they were trained, and the d.a. has said that he would charge the officers and he's done so. so all the things that if you look at past cases, see any of that here. there's no cover-up. there's no suspension of pay.
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there's no we'll get to it when we want to. there's been transparency and swift action. that's gone a long way in the community's eyes. >> what's your message to the community? >> don't destroy your own community to get your message across. why destroy your own neighborhood and community? >> not that that's going to happen. >> you can do it in a peaceful way. you can protest in a peaceful way. exercise your first amendment right in a constructive way. that's the best way to do it. we need better implementation of policies. don't need to tear up our city and burn down our city to have our voices heard. >> president of the local naacp, thank you for joining us. >> reporter: victor, another reaction from a member of the km community. he said it offers the community
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to get used to what happened and he's in favor of the video tape being released after 6:00 on a friday night. >> we've seen in other city, don, and we've been there, when there is -- of course we're hoping that's not the case after this incident. the vandalism, the violence happens when these officers are on administrative leave, still being paid, but not prosecuted. this moved from quickly from the incident on the 7th, to the firing several days later and now these charges. the hope is that's the accountability the people have been wanting and this will be enough to keep any violence or vandalism from happening. >> reporter: right on, victor blackwell. listen, the severity of the charges, the way they're handling it, the way the police department is handling it, the police chief. it could be a little more transparency, a lot more transparency, but here we are and they're trying to at least
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come up with a coordinated program or coordinated way of dealing with this rather than reacting to video that has already come out and people protesting because officers are still on the job, they're on administrative duty or have been suspended. >> we'll see if some of the questions about the timeline will be answered from the individual. don lemon leading our coverage in memphis. we just got this in. the jury has reached a verdict for the deadly bike path attack in new york city. we have details on that next. her skin was better, she was more a active. if i canan invest in her health and be proactive, i think it's worth it. visit betterforthem.com
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a federal jury has convicted the man suspected of driving a rented truck down a bike path in new york city on halloween in 2017. killed eight pedestrians, the de deadliest terror attack in new york city since 9/11. >> this was the first death penalty trial under the biden administration. he campaigned and promised to stop death penalty cases in federal charges. this was the deadliest terror attack in new york city since 9/11. this man, sayfullo saipov, it's interesting, he didn't dispute
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he had rundown these people on this bike path killing eight, injuring a dozen more. it came down to the reason why. his attorneys argued he did this out of a religious belief and the prosecutors argued that he was trying to gain entry into isis. the jury convicting him after deliberating for six hours of 28 counts, including 8 counts for murder. the next thing will be the penalty phase. that's february 6th. this jury will hear evidence on that and decide whether sayfullo saipov is sentenced to death or life in prison. >> thanks so much. president biden is on the road in springfield, virginia, touting today's welcomed economic news. >> i'm not sure -- i mean this sinc sincerely -- the news could have been any better. economic growth is up 2.9%.
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jobs, jobs are the highest in american history. wages are up and growing faster than inflation. over the past six months inflation has gone down every month. >> arlette zientz is in virginia. the president said it couldn't have been better, but in the background there's still the debt ceiling that must be dealt with that could toss these good numbers out the window. >> reporter: yeah. that's one battle that the white house is really preparing for with republicans up on capitol hill. today the president was trying to turn the focus to some of those rosy numbers relating to the economy. as the economy remains a top concern for american voters. he used this as an opportunity to go on the attack against house republicans.
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what he has labeled a threat that is posed by, quote, maga republicans. >> look, here's the deal, you got to -- they want to cut your social media and medicare. this is the god's truth. it's almost unbelievable. beyond that they're threatening to have us default on the american debt, debt that's been accumulated over 230 years. okay? interest on that debt we've never done that. i have a rhetorical question. what in god's name would the americans give up the progress we made for the chaos they're suggesting? i don't get it. that's why the maga republicans choose to inflict this kind of pain on the american people. why? this nation has gone through too much and come too far to let that happen. i won't let that happen. not on my watch. i'll veto everything they send.
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>> reporter: so much of the message could be a preview of president biden's re-election bid for 2024. he's also pointing out how some republicans want to make cuts to social security and medicare. all of this could be quite a bit of a preview for the president should he decide to run for president again. >> arlette, we know the president is watching what's going on in memphis. did he deliver any remarks or mention the charges at all? >> reporter: well, no. the speech was actually going on as those charges against those five police officers involved in the death of tyre nichols were being announced. we are told by white house officials that president biden has been updated and briefed on the latest involvement in the situation regarding tyree
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nichols. we'll see if there anything later from the white house. >> arlette zientz, thank you very much. the breaking news the five police officers facing charges in the death of tyree nichols, two charges of official misconduct, official oppression, second agree murder, aggravated assault and aggravated kid kidn kidnapping. there will be a news conference in the next hour. for now "the lead" with jake tapper starts in a few seconds. tyree nichols, the latest