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sbolduan" starts right now. in the next hour, president biden will deliver remarks on u.s. support for ukraine. he's expected to announce the u.s. will be sending a-1 abrams tanks to ukraine. this long debated move also comes just as germany confirms they will also be spending tank to say ukraine. both of these moves have been in the works for a while, a step both countries have resisted for a variety of reasons. these coordinated announcements now also pave the way for other european countries to do the same and supply tank to say ukraine. as ukrainians are preparing for a big spring offensive by russia. we're going to discuss all of this with nato secretary-general
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stoltenberg. what are you hearing, oren? >> reporter: we're told about 30 tanks will head to ukraine, one of the most advanced tanks pretty much out there. how soon? this will take time. we've seen the coordination between the german announcement to send its german-made leopard tanks and other countries to send tank, and the expected announcement from the u.s. it will send just about short of three dozens of its abrams tank, in terms of how soon we could see the abrams tank arriving, that will take much longer. because the u.s. just announced its own drawdown of u.s. inventories, it's unlikely that
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will mea the abrams. that means the u.s. will have to secure new tanks for ukraine, and that would take times, months perhaps before we see abrams enter the battlefield, but ukraine needs the time to learn how to use them, operate them, and the other new sims that have already been announced. >> oren, thank you so much. oren will be standing by with this formal announcement. in the next hour we'll hear from the president directly, and it's widely expected he'll announce the news on the tanks mj lee is standing by for us, working her sources for us as well. mj, what are you learning? >> reporter: we should be hearing from the president explaining the rationale to the
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merge people why the u.s. is expected to send these tanks to ukr ukraine. that explain session is so critical us because it's a notable shift. pentagon officials say it's challenging to train people to even operate these tanks, not to mention the amount of time, as oren was talking about, to get these tanks physically to ukraine. it's impossible to sort of look at this decision, this expected announcement in a vacuum. you have to look at it in the context of what germany is doing. german officials have been making it clear for a while they were not willing to send the leopard 2 tanks to ukraine unless the u.s. was willing to send abrams tanks. so this is a coordinated effort, and probably other european
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countries as well. we do expect the president to once again talk about how important he believes it is for the biden administration to make any kind of significant decisions when it comes to ukraine in coordination with other allied countries, kate. >> thank you, mj. german's chancellor also made the announcement this morning. we're told these tanks could be operational in ukraine in about three months. there's a lot in the works here, as we're learning all of this. sam kiley is in kyiv, standing by for us. how is this news being received in ukraine right now? >> reporter: with some delight, i have to say, kate. president zelenskyy obviously welcomes it. he's been asking for some 300 tanks, at the same time the defense minister has said he's
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anticipating some more good news. that would be the 30 tanks that oren is referring to that we're expecting the u.s. president to announce is being supplied to ukraine. on the front line, we've been in touch with soldiers on the front line. they're particularly pleased to hear they'll be coming, because they've been running out of these particular pieces of equipment. they've had to capture a lot of tanks from russia and repurpose them, but they are running low. and they have been particularly useful. on the training front, yes, it could take months to training a fresh recruit, but it won't take long to train a seasoned tank fighter. they probably have the most experience in all of nato how to drive and fight with a tank. they don't know how to filly
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drive the leopards, the abrams. ultimately they said to see more coming through. you add up all the pledges, between 90 and 100 tanks. they are asking, kate, to get to 300. that's a critical point as well, even in the face of what you say as delight of this being received in ukraine. sam, thank you very much. joining me is nato secretary-general jens stoltenberg. what is your reaction to this announcement? >> these are important announcements, and what the german chancellor said today really is important. it makes it possible for germany, but also for other european nato allies to provide
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battle tanks to ukraine. that will significantly strengthen their combat capabilities, and del strait the resolve of the nato allies and partners in providing support to ukraine. >> secretary-general, the introduction of tanks has long been discussed. what did it take to get here? >> what you have seen is that the front lines in ukraine have stabilized. we have seen how the russians are digging in. if we want ukraine to be able to both to defend against upcoming russian offenses, we know the russians are planning for new offenses, and also if we want ukraine to be able to retake territory, we need to give them more armor, more heavy and
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modern weapons. the announcement last week of armorsed personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, and now the announcement of battle tank, that all together will strengthen significantly the combat strength of the ukraine armed forces. we need that to assure that president pewant doesn't win this war. >> the view provided to this point is enough to keep ukraine in the fight, but not enough for ukraine to win this war. i have heard that from retired generals, military experts, for quite some time. do you think the introduction of these tanks finally provides the capability to actually win? >> nato allies have provided an unprecedented level of support, and actually many allies, including the united states,
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trained the support for the ukrainians before the invasion. we have done that since 2014. and this has enabled them to push the russian forces out, first of the territory in the north around rekyiv, and then i the east, and then in the south in kharson. they are ramping up production of ammunition weapons, and they're planning new offensive, so we need to provide even more support, not only to ensure that ukraine survives but actually ensure that ukraine is able to liberate more territory, win and prevail as a sovereign, independent nation in ukraine. that's exactly what nato allies are doing with announcements we saw last week, but also with the announcement of battle tanks
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today. >> i'm hearing from some military experts already, that the number of tanks all put together, but the scope of what is being promised in terms of tanks, it is still inadequate for what ukraine needs. what do you say to that? >> first, i leave it to individual allies to make specific announcements, but the german announcement today is important, because it opens up for other european ally that is have leopard tanks to provide leopard tanks to ukraine. there are many european allies that have leopard tanks. many of them have made it clear they are ready to provide battle tanks to ukraine. i spoke just now with president zelenskyy, and of course he welcomed the announcements made
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not only from germany, but from many other allies to provide tanks, but also to provide training, ammunition, maintenance, spare parts, the whole logistical support for the new heavy modern nato-standard battle tanks. >> russia's response is the tanks will burn just like all the others. what is your message to russia today? >> ukrainians have proven extremely skilled and capable in operating the equipment, the weapons that nato allies and partners have provided. i'm absolutely certain this will be able to do that also with main battle tanks from nato allied countries, especially baas many of them have experience already from the front lines, so its armored
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vehicles, battle tank, but that's a useful background to start traininging on modern nato battle tanks. this is a war, an aggress. president putin invading a sovereign, independent nation, ukraine. ukraine has the right to self-defense. we have the right to uphold them in that right. if president putin wins, it's a tragedy for ukraine, but a danger to us, because it's a message to other leaders that they get what they want, and then the world becomes even more dangerous, and we more vulnerable. so it's in our security interests to support ukrainians. >> jens stoltenberg, thank you for coming on. we sincerely appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you very much. much more on that, ahead.
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important comments from the secretary general. communities across texas and louisiana are cleaning up following devastating storms. more than a dozen tornadoes were reported, and the threat from this weather is still not over. rosa flores is in deer park, just outside of houston, texas. rosa, what are you seeing? >> reporter: we're seeing the path of destruction. this was a nursing home. you can tell that the frame of this building was ripped off in certain areas, and some of the corrugated metals, part of the room is bent over, mangled. a lot of the masonry has faulten. from what we understand, there were about 59 seniors living in this facility when the tornadic activity hit. i talked to with unfortunate daughters of one of the residents here. she tells me all of the seniors were evacuated and they were
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fine. they had no injuries. she actually said that they were moved over to the building across the street, and according to authorities, they did send an ambulance bus here just as a precaution. but, kate, these are some of the images we are seeing here on the ground. this is what we see. there's a path that goes through this area, and a lot of the buildings, a lot of the homes look like what you see behind me. >> rosa, thank you so much for being there. i really appreciate it. we're also watching this. the suspect in the deadly mass shooting in northern california will be in court this afternoon, the stays's governor pointing the fingers at congress right now, as he puts it, to do their job. that's next. 5 a.m. . to milk ts a little easier. (moo) mabel saysys for you, it's more like 5:5:15. man: mom, really? meet leon the third...
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this afternoon, the man suspected of killing seven people and shootings near half moon bay will appear in court. we're still waiting to learn what charges the alleged shooter will face, but police are now calling the attack an incident of workplace violence. ver ron cal miracle joins us with much more. what is expected today, veronica? >> reporter: it will be the first court appearance accused of the horrific mass shooting. cnn has obtained court records, and it reveals this isn't the
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first time he's been accused of violence involves other coemployees. in 2014, a former co-employee accused him of suffocating and trying to murder him. according to zhao tried to suffocate his former roommate. and a temporary restraining order was filed, and he would not be able to buy a gun, but that went away in july of 2013. over the weekend, this mass shooting took place at two separate locations, one was apparently where chunli zhao lived and worked, and there were other people who lived and work there, including children. governor newsom toured half moon bay yesterday. he meant with community members, who have been deeply impacted by
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this violence. kate, i'll be honest with you, he seemed exhausted and really fired up. this was his second mass shooting tour in just days. that first one in monterey park over the weekend? southern california. he quickly came up to northern california to tour another mass shooting site. listen to what he had to say. >> we need the federal government to do its job. this is on everybody. we've chosen this. this is our decision to live in these conditions. it doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. we have chosen this. we have accepted this. >> reporter: chunli zhao will be in court today at 1:30. senator, thank you for coming in. california, as we know, have some of the strongest gun laws in the country. you've had these deadly mass
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shootings just in quick succession. gun violence is a problem in every state. why do you think it's happening right now in california. >> first, kate, let me say, as heartbroken as i am for the families and victims in the communities, half moon bay and elsewhere. i'm equally outraged as the governor. a lot of this doesn't have to happen. we know that smart gun safety laws work, whether it's restrictions on the type of weapons made available, stronger background checks, the numbers don't lie. and for the ten years we have an assault weapons ban nationally, the numbers came down. so the governor is absolutely right. weaver going to keep fighting the fight here in congress to reinstate and adopt some of these proven solutions, not just state by state, but nationally. >> i do want to play something
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more from governor newsom's conversation with my colleague, as he points the finger directly at congress. listen to this. >> california leads the nation in common-sense gun safety, it saves lives, but we can't do it alone. folks can go to border states and there's a loophole. we have to solve for these patterns. it requires congress to take bold leadership. the number one deaths were children, and we didn't do a damn thing. congress is sitting on their -- >> there's very tough politics around gun regulation. what do you think you can actually do now? >> we have no choice but to continue to try to address this
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issue. in court, large-capacity magazines, assault weapons, that's a huge loophole. nowadays you can buy parts online and modify what is otherwise a lawful weapon into something that is not allowed in california or other states. that is a huge loophole. let's be precise. it's not just him pointing the finger at congress. it's him pointing the finger at congressional republicans. they're the ones that have refused and resisted, obstructed efforts to change gun laws. that said, i have to remain hopeful, and look at the progress last year, as a reason to stay hopeful. it did strengthen for background checks for buyers under 21.
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incentivizing red-flag laws. let's look how they've been working? americans are dying. our children are dying. senator, let me ask exactly on that point. there were 15 senate republicans who voted on that act that passed. you would need them, of course, for anything else to be passed in response to these mass shootings. have you spoken to any of those republicans in light of what's happened in your state? >> we have. again, the conversation continues in the immediate aftermath of the sayer communities act. >> real conversations. you know the shootings. they can spur renewed conversations. have you suppose to any of them since this has hammond to see in
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any has changed. basically the chance of getting it passed in reality is nonexistent. >> so here's -- i just returned to washington, d.c. literally a couple hours ago. i will begin the conversations. i stayed in california while the governor was in half moon bay yesterday, i was in monterey park at the vigil with the community. while we fight the fight in congress, we also have to make sure we stay on the ground supporting the family, the friends, the communities that are dealing with trauma for a long time and need our help to heal. we have to do both. >> senator, thanks for coming on, as you just returned shortly ago. we appreciate where those conversations head. >> thank you. . justice departments is looking into another discovery, this time at the home of former vice president mike pence. how that changes the politics of all of this now, next. , we swit one wash, stains are gone.
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again. we have learned there was a much difference than that was at the white house. we have learned that four boxes made their way to a with he's even talked about his careful process. let's take a listen. >> did you take any classified documents with you from the white house? >> uh, i did not. >> when the current president of the united states is found to have classified documents in his possession after leaving office, i think -- it just -- i have no
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words right now. it's just incredibly frustrating to me. >> our staff reviewed all our materials in our office and in our residence to ensure there were no classified materials. >> history says the former vice president was unaware he had these documents and vowed to cooperate going forward. we don't know the level of classification, but we do know the justice department is conducting a review to determine whether there need to be any other steps. . of course, that prompted the appointment of a special cowens. stand by to stand by, paula. i literally mean it to you. david chalian and jennifer rogers is with us. with this news on pence, the
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question once again goes to what does merrick garland do? >> this is identical to the -- there really isn't a reason to believe a criminal investigation is warranted, but garland got over that quickly, and then appointed a special counsel, in the biden situation, but because they have a special cowens in play, i think garland will do the ultra-conscious thing, as he tends to do, and also give this to the special cowens. >> what do you see in there? >> kate, even before the trump comparison, i should note broadly, and this is true for trump as well. americans appoint the
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appointment of special counsels with this. you don't usually see this kind of agreement for appointments, and two thirds of americans think it's serious, but look at the comparison with donald trump. this is where you see the difference. we asked folks do you think there's been illegal behavior here? 52% of americans think, with donald trump, there was something illegal that has gone on here. only 37% of americans believe that with joe biden. look, when you break it down by party, you can see even roughly at the bottom of the screen there, a quarter, 25% of republicans think trump did something illegal. >> interesting, david. the legal question is one thing, of course. the political question is another. with the inclusion of mike pence, i'm going to have to call it a group, a group of officials who may or may not be running for president again, mishandling
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classified documents, does that politically take the heat off of everyone? >> to some degree it does. listen, obviously there's still a legal review process going on here, and donald trump probably faces more legal peril, it seems at this moment than joe biden or mike pence. look at donald trump's statement supporting mike pence when this news was revealed? this is somebody he's been hammering against for the last year? he welcomes this to what you call a group. it now muddies the waters. you hear bipartisan support on capitol hill now to actually doing something about this, that this is a systemic problem. you don't hear quite the partisan rancor that we did over the mar-a-lago simp or when the biden revelations were made. >> you hear just people smacking their heads against a table, like, again?
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more? jennifer there's also news from the investigation in fulton county, georgia. the district attorney told the judge in charging, saying charging decision are imminent. this is at the same time whether the judge is decision whether to release the special grand jury report publicly. >> first of all, imminent in legal-speak is different than in imminent. it means a few weeks, probably. but she needs to make to the judge that the decision is soon, because she wants the judge to hold the report until she makes the decisions. it would really be unfair to the people ultimately charged, if any, for this information to come out in the public realm. >> thank you. great to see you, jennifer.
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bleeding. shimon problem pel, you know you were throat at this press difference. one of the big question is the police body cam. what did they say? that he needed more time as he was talk to go witnesses, about this, that he didn't want video coming out that could in any way affect what they saw in their judgment, so it's in the hands of the local district attorney. the federal procedurors running their own investigation has to do with civil rights and civil rights violations of the victim here. that's a completely separate investigation. the local investigation by the d.a. may actually take a lot
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less time. we're waiting to hear from the district attorney on that video and if these officers will face any charges. the one thing that i think is important is how you're seeing these officials come out and talk, but they're concerned how the community will react to this video once released, and they're urging people to protest if they need to, but do it peacefully. take a listen to what the u.s. attorney had to say. >> what i will say on behalf of the federal authorities is, we want people to express their right to be heard, but we want them to do so in a peaceful and nonviolent way. i'll close by saying that i grew up in this city. i care deeply about this city. i want this city to be a place where just is done. >> reporter: the one thing that's clear also, in talking to
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the attorney for the family, it's very clear they certainly expect justice here, they expect charges, and now all eyes, kate, are on the d.a. here, who in the next few days could potentially decide whether they will file charges. shimon, thanks for being there. i really appreciate it. joining us for more is areva martin. thank you for coming in. what's your reaction to the u.s. attorney confirming really on camera they have opened a civil rights investigation into the death of tyre nichols. >> i'm not surprised that they issued a statement that a civil rights investigation has been opened and they're going to do a thorough investigation. i'm not surprised he came forward. i know from talking to people on the ground in memphis that the city is on empty. a lot of people are upset the body cam video has not been
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released, though the investigation is ongoing, a lot of people in memphis feels like there's been enough time that video should be out. i know based on what the family attorney has said, the family wants that video revealed. and we're told it's horrific, showing a brutal beating for at least three minutes by five officers. >> let me play that. the family attorney says they viewed it earlier this week. i want to play what you're getting at, what the attorney said and how they described what they saw. >> he was defenseless the entire time. he was a human pinata for those police officers. it was an unadulterated unabashed nonstop beating of this young boy for three
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minutes. >> oh, my. >> you can hear his mother just breaking down once again. the d.a., as you were alluding to, told cnn last night the video could be released soon. shimon was saying that could be coming soon, but he also said he wants to makes sure they have interviewed everyone involved first. the release doesn't involve the statement to the d.a.'s office. does that make sense, areva? >> it makes sense that much involved has to be interviewed. the timing of it, kate, i think is what's at issue. we've watched so many cases over the last several years, and we know how district attorney handles these cases has to do with how a community responds. when they provide information, we typically see a very peaceful response, so i think the district attorney, yes, be thorough, take the time that's needed, but also recognize this community deserves to know what happened to this young man.
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this just coming in to us, a first grade teacher in virginia, she is now planning to sue her school district and says she and other staff members repeatedly warned administrators at the school that a 6-year-old student was armed with a gun. abby zwerner was shot in the chest. brian todd has the latest on this. brian, tell us more about what her attorney is saying. >> reporter: kate, a dramatic sequence of events laid out moments ago by the attorney for that teacher, abby zwerner, her attorney telling us about warnings that were issued to the administrators that very day in the hours before the shooting. here's what diane toscano had to say. >> three times school
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administration was warned by concerned teachers and employees that the boy had a gun on him at the school and was threatening people. had the school administrators acted in the interest of their teachers and their students, abby would not have sustained a gunshot wound to the chest. a bullet that remains dangerously inside her body. >> reporter: and that attorney actually laid out a time line with even more detail of these warnings issued, very quickly, she said at 11:15 abby herself told the administration that the school administrators that that boy had threatened to beat up another child, that 12:30 p.m. that day, another teacher told the administrators that she searched the boy's book bag, that she believed that the boy took the gun in his pocket and went to recess. each time she said the school administrators could not be bothered with that information. one of them, this is a quote, she said a school administrator
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said, well, he has little pockets, end quote. then at 1:00 p.m. according to diane, a third teacher told the administrators another child had cried and told her that he was fearful that the boy had shown him a gun at recess and threatened to shoot him if he told anybody. at that point a fourth teacher came up and asked to search the boy again. according to this attorney, that teacher was denied permission to doing that saying they should wait it out. the school day was almost over. we have reached out to the school administration, the school district for response to all of this and have not gotten back to us. >> wow. brian, thank you for that. i appreciate it. we're going to have much more on that ahead. president biden about to speak live from the white house expected to announce the u.s. is sending tank to ukraine. that's up next. "inside politics" with john king after a quick break. sleep totoo hot or too cold.s introducing the new sleep number climate360 smart bed. the only smart bed in the world that actively cools, warms,
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hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing a very important news day with us. a major shift on the ukraine battlefield. germany reverses course and promises 14 tanks to ukraine and any moment now, president biden

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