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flood warnings. the state's lieutenant governor joins us with an update. plus the justice department is reviewing a batch of classified documents found in joe biden's private office from when he was vice president. what will the president say about it today? and a 6-year-old accused of shooting a teacher with his mother's gun, the choice prosecutors now face in virginia. this is what we're watching at this hour. thank you so much for being here. i'm kate bolduan. the flooding in california is really terrifying and the threat is not over. the state's governor said severe weather has killed at least 14 people now. 34 million people are under flood alerts today. more than a foot of rain has fallen in southern california in the last two days. a real threat isn't just the water, it is all -- it is rock slides, and the threat of severe mudslides as well that could also very quickly create

dangerous conditions and it is all forcing thousands of people to evacuate their homes. crews have rescued a countless number of people including this driver as you could see in los angeles county. just look at the water flow over his suv. a 5-year-old boy is still missing today after being swept away by floodwaters yesterday. the search was actually suspended because, as you would anticipate, the weather has gotten too severe for the first responders. let's get started. mike valero is in montecito, california, at this hour. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: kate, good morning. at this hour, the creeks and rivers are raging, just take a look to me left. this is the romero creek here in the middle of mont seata, but this drains out to the pacific coast highway. so if we look this way which our photographer rudy is playing ought, this drains from the mountains and then goes southward to the beach.

like at the picture as motorists are stopping here. we have a couple of emergency vehicles. we had armored hummer that was making sure neighbors were okay. before we came on the air. but this matters because we have homes, these beautiful estates that are just yards away from these floodwaters. these waters with much higher when we came into the area around midnight. so the concern is that boulders, mud, all of this debris could flow from the mountains into here in the middle of the montecito like it did five years ago. we have neighbors on this side over here, a huge eucalyptus tree the side of a mobile home came down about 10 minutes ago. so they're saying this is very emotional for them. they're debating whether or not to evacuate even though all of this area is under a mandatory evacuation order, kate. >> and it is also showing that really conditions are changing minute-by-minute as you're seeing kind of all around you. mike, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. another area getting

hammered is ventura county, just outside of los angeles. it is seeing some of the heaviest rain over the last few days and still under a flood watch. our gee young law is live. >> where mike was doing the live shot for you, down here, it is just the roadway taking on the rivers that swelling and flowing over. i'm standing on the 101 freeway. and we've been here all morning and what you could see is that this is the ventura river that has crest and covered the freeway. it is completely shut down. this side of the freeway is shut down. that side of the freeway. we have caltrans out here now. there is a vehicle down there. they're just starting to try to clear some of this mud. but this river rose 17 feet in 12 hours. so that just gives you a sense of how much water we're talking

about here in ventura county. it is led to evacuations, there have been mandatory evacuations, there has been flooding of local businesses and when we talk to the fire department in santa barbara, just north of where we are, the santa barbara fire department said that they've had some 200 calls, seven swift water rescues and that has led to just emergency crews unable to try to clear some of this. we are just now starting to see some of this clearing happening here. but as far as whether people begin to start driving on some of these roads really unclear at this point. a lot of the roadways here, kate, looking like this. >> yeah. absolutely. thank you so much for the reporting and being there. let's get to meteorologist chad myers for a bigger view of the state. because it is almost across the entire state of what they're looking at. this is already bad as they're laying out, as kyong and mike

were showing. >> just wave after wave. i'll give you some lay of the land. here is los angeles and here is santa barbara, our reporters is right through here. above them, above in the hills over 10 inches of rainfall just in the past 48 hours. some of the numbers that you see here, san marcos passed, we proved that. 16 inches of rain. a lot of the higher elevations you don't ever hear about our montecito hills, over 8 inches in the past two days and it is still raining. here is the next wave, it is coming into l.a. coming into malibu and all of the areas of southern california that have already been hit so hard. here you go, san francisco still seeing rain up into the snow and the sierra, go to be feet deep. two to four feet deep. widespread flooding. i was listen to the scanner from santa cruz, california, today, the officer on the scanner said i can't even get into this neighborhood. it looks like a tornado hit here. now tornado did not hit. but the winds were 60 miles per

hour and the trees are absolutely stuck in mud. and when the wind blows, they fall. we have may losts hundreds of thousands of trees in california alone just because their roots are in mud and the rest of the area below the mud still in drought. kate. >> it is really truly one extreme to the next. and they really can't get a break. chad will be all over it for us. thank you. joining me now nor an important update. let's get to the lieutenant governor of california. thanks for coming in. i appreciate it. what and where is your biggest concern right now? >> well, we're concerned with areas across the state of california. you heard it most of the state is under flood watch, we have evacuations. 200,000 people without power. risk of mudslides and more rain coming. and i think that is probably the biggest concern that we have.

we have had five atmospheric rivers come in to california over two weeks. everything is wet. everything is saturated. everything is at a breaking point. and there is more rain coming. >> yeah. the latest reporting that we've seen is that at least 14 people have been killed in all of this. has that number changed? >> that is the latest that of the -- of the reports that i have heard. but again there are people who are missing. there is a 5-year-old child that we still have not been able to continue the search for. it is a very fraught situation and we're encouraging everyone to watch the local news. our state is very big, the most populous state, every corner sta state is touched by extreme events, one rainstorm after another. so we're watching everyone to watch tlir local news and evacuate where necessary, get batteries and flashlights, be prepared. and we hope that the storms that

are coming through this compounding impact that we'll be able to continue to mount the response necessary to protect our people. >> and we're showing on the screen right now just a rockslide, i think it is in ventura, california, that was caught on camera. and we remember the scenes of mudslides of montecito back in 2018. how real is threat of the mudslides this time? >> very real. and thank you for mentioning. we lost 23 people in the mudslides that was quickly had torn down houses. that is why the precaution is taken in ventura and montecito and santa barbara. but again the threats are across the state right now. we see internal flooding in neighborhoods. parts of the central valley are very flat and once you have the

drainage systems that are full, when you get more water it brings the level up and getting into people's houses. you know, it only takes six inches of water to lose control of the a car, to be knocked over. in 12 inches, cars start floating away. and you've heard that several of the creeks have risen 14 feet just in last day and in certain areas we've had over a foot of rain in the last 48 hours. >> it is really unbelievable. >> so we're expecting more. >> it is unbelievable, kate. and you know, for people who look at california, we've been in four years of extreme drought. so to have extreme drought followed by these extreme rainstorms, you know, it is just a testament to more and more extreme weather conditions in our state, in our country and the world and we know that a warming planet is -- is particularly causing all of these extreme weather events. >> absolutely. i mean, we know that the climate crisis is driving, is driving

these more frequent extreme weather events that we're seeing and california has seen your fair share of it. you talked about the huge area that this covers. that is saturated. the entire state is soaking. it is saturated and the ground is wet, all of this is happening all over the state. do you have what you need to get through this and help people clean up after this passes? >> we're doing our best. you see a lot of downed trees and the ground is so wet, the trees are falling down on houses, on cars across the state. the governor declared a state of emergency over the weekend. the white house is giving us support. we have everyone working overtime, all of our first responders out there removing trees, shoring up areas, and trying to prevent mudslides and evacuating people, manning our shelters. but it is -- it is a big task. it is hard to be prepared for

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and flash forward to november 2nd, i ateam of lawyers uncovered fewer than 12 classified documents. they notified the national archives and we're told that the national archives took possession of the documents as they should the next morning. the justice department was notified and now the attorney general has tapped the u.s. attorney in chicago to review this matter and do a damage assessment. and that is significant, kate, because the u.s. attorney in chicago is one of two tru trump-appointed still serving in government. other one is in delaware overseeing the investigation into president biden's son hunter. the biden team said they are fully cooperating with the archives an the justice department. but at this point, there are a lot of questions we still have. why did they go to this office? on this date, just a few days before a key midterm? why were there lawyers searching this office and doing this particular errand. and also is this the only place

that there could potentially be classified information? so there is a lot of reporting right now that we're still trying to do. >> a lot of work to do and still with what is known, a lot of questions raised for the white house to answer. paula stick with me. we're going to talk more about this. but there is also news we want to get to in the investigation into donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. as first reporting on cnn, trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani has been subpoenaed by the special counsel looking into trump's action in and around the election. let's get to katelyn polantz. what more could you tell us? >> reporter: well this subpoena of rudy giuliani came more than a month ago from prosecutors who are now working with the special counsel's office and it brings into focus a financial investigation part of their january 6 criminal probe. so the special counsel continues to press for records about political fundraising, spending around donald trump and just one of the people prosecutors have gone to in recent weeks is rudy

giuliani. kate, it is a pretty serious move to subpoena giuliani. you remember he was a central player for donald trump after the 2020 election. he was in touch with state legislatures, he was in interested in using fake electors in battle ground states and he was arguing those false claims of election fraud that donald trump wanted him to make in court. now giuliani is being asked and demanded to turn over information, documents that he might have from that time period and he's going to be handing those over to a federal grand jury in washington. we know from our sources that they want him to prioritize turning over records of payments he received around that time. kate, from what is out there in public, we know about the money and giuliani as he was working for trump already. he wanted the campaign to pay him $20,000 a day as a lawyer. ultimately he wasn't going to get that but he did get at two companies that he had at the time about $140,000 reimbursed for travel expenses from trump

connected entities. so right now we know that the special counsel jack smith is following that and he's going to be following the money. kate. >> following the money. great reporting as always. i want to bring back in paula reid and also joining us is elliott williams, a former federal prosecutor. so paula, let's get back and talk more about the reporting, you're reporting about the classified documents found in biden's old office. donald trump and a lot of other people are quickly making comparisons between that -- this situation and the investigation into the classified documents found in trump's home. lay out how these are different. >> well based on the what we know now, from the biden team and our other sources, the biden matter appears to be a much more simple straightforward matter, compared to the ongoing criminal investigation into mar-a-lago. let's start with the volume of material we're talking about. fewer than a dozen documents versus hundreds of documents. then there is the issue of

cooperation. the biden team is fully cooperating and we know the former president and his team have not been very cooperative. they stonewalled and ignored and produced some documents and many weren't produced until a subpoena was obtain and things have been uncovered, it is been very complicated and messy which led to possible obstruction and so baseond what we know now, these are two very different investigations. but we've only known about the biden matter for about 24 hours and we continue to report out the more specific details. >> and elliott, to be very fair, you don't even like these -- this side-by-side comparison. why? >> well, you know, i think there is a rush in a political environment to compare one to the other and to make the argument, that, well, trump's house was searched, therefore biden should too. and you ought to take every case individually. and just look at this and this is picking up on paula's poin, look at what was the basis for

the search warrant at the former president's house. he was number one, and what provided the basis, number one obstruction of justice, number two was mishandling potentially of classified information and, number two, gathering or transmitting or mutilating defense information. none of that as of right now is present here. now, look, if there is evident that emerges that president biden is concealing classified documents at his home and thwarting efforts of law enforcement to get to them. of course they should search his house. that is not the case today based on what we know and as more information comes forward, then folks should reassess what they think about the two cases. >> it is a great point. and paula, biden was asked about mishandling of classified documents at trump's residence and in an old interview for cbs with 60 minutes. i want to play what he said then. >> when you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid

out on the floor of mar-a-lago, what did you think to yourself looking at that image? >> how that could possibly happen. how anyone could be that irresponsible. and i thought, what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods. by that i mean names of people helped and et cetera. and it just totally is irresponsible. >> and regardless of what more we do learn about these documents found in biden's office, i mean, a little bit of what elliott was getting to which is the politics of this is already a real thing. >> oh, yeah. just ask former secretary of state hillary clinton how these kind of things could spiral and become a massive political liability. now last night the former president, he started posting on truth social asking when biden's homes were going to, quote, be raided. that is a term that judge has admonished him from using after

and he may have de classified some of the documents. he's making false comparisons to the biden matter. it is absolutely likely that this is going to be politicized and make it very difficult for the justice department to charge the former president politically in terms of optics in that case. now it is interesting, i spoke with one of the former president's attorneys, i thought they would be positively giddy over this or enjoy this story and they didn't. they said, look, this is exactly what we've been talking about. this helps our defense because we've been arguing there is too much classification in these documents in government and it is difficult when you're leaving the white house or the vice president's residence to complete everything properly. i don't know if jack smith will see it that way but this is a political liability and we'll see how it plays out legally. >> elliott, really quickly, i want to ask you about kaitlan's report that giuliani has been issued this subpoena by the special counsel into donald trump's fundraising after the

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police in virginia say that the 6-year-old accused of shooting his teacher at school used a gun legally purchased by his mother. prosecutors now are weighing who to charge. brian todd is live in virginia for us with much more on this. brian, what are you learning there? >> reporter: well, kate, what we were told earl why ier today but the police chief of newport news, steve drew, is that there is, quote, certainly a

possibility that the mother of this child could face charges in this case. we have asked the police chief repeatedly about why the mother has not been charged and the mother did legally purchase that gun, a 9 millimeter taurus handgun and they can't make that determination until they speak with child protective services, and investigators and until he speaks to the commonwealth attorney to make the determination as to whether the mother could be charged but telling cnn this morning that there is a certain possibility that she could be charged. a lot of other burning questions. how did the child obtain the handgun in the home. we know that the child got the handgun in the home somehow. put it in his backpack and took it to work, pulled it out and fired a single shot at teacher abby zerner, so those are the details that we do know. that the key question as to how the child obtained the gun at the house. i asked the chief whether that gun was secured at the house and

he did not really answer that and was not able to answer that at the time. i think some of this is still being determined in the investigation. the chief is talking about heros in this case and we do have a number of them to talk about. he was really praising that teacher abby zerner for getting all of the kids out of the classroom. she was the last one to leave the classroom and one other teacher went in and restrained the child until the police got there and became combative and struck that school employee but they were able to retrain the child and that person is a hero as well. >> just tragic all around. that is for sure. thank you very much for that. and this heartbreaking story, and all of the questions surrounding is tragically similar to one other case. in 2000, 6-year-old kayla roll land was shot and killed by one of her first grade classmates in a michigan elementary school. the boy who shot her was also 6 years old. the prosecutor did not pursue

charges against the boy. and an adult man was sentenced, though, for involuntary manslaughter for allowing the child to have access to the gun. he spent 2 1/2 years behind bars. the pros that tragic case had to make those charging decisions arthur bush and he joins us right now. arthur, thank you for taking the time to speak with me about this. first off, what did you think when you read the news of this new shooting, of the details of this shooting in virginia? >> well, initially, the case is so eerily similar to what happened way back in 2000 in the shooting in mount morris township. my first thought was not again. how could this be? and then the placement of it on the internet and then the media, it almost seemed as though we were beginning to normalize child deaths. and i guess a second thing i thought was the police and others are talking about this as

if it was a criminal case, with a little boy initially. this is a civil case. it is any neglect case as far as he's concerned and i think the police chief who is speaking for the community, is correctly focused in on how did they get the gun, that is what we did and whether or not that conduct in leaving that gun in the house where a kid could get it was grossly negligent and whether it is foreseeable someone could be shot or killed in some other place. the only dissimilarity is many case we have a death, another first grader was killed. here we don't have a death. >> i want to play for you, arthur, the police chief in virginia and what he said at a press conference about what they have learned about this situation. let me play this for you. >> everything we have at this point that he was -- that it was intentional, i do believe that. i believe that the actions were

at or towards the teacher. but you never know how someone is going to react with a firearm and students and we're talking about a 6-year-old child. i don't know what all was going through this young man's, that child's mind. >> his use of the term intentional. and he also said that this was not not accidental. what do you make of that, arthur? >> well, i make it that the chief is a little behind the times or just not up to what the law is. first of all, children that age can't be charged. it is been the common law, that we talk about the age of understanding. 6 years old isn't that age. this little guy probably believes still in santa claus, and the tooth fairy, the easter bunny. probably has his front teeth out, falling out and he's just a little kid. so i get from the police chief, he's either not around kids that

are real young, or he isn't around lawyers who could tell him there is no way that he could ever charge this child. >> and that is something i wanted to ask you about. because i know that you -- that you faced this very same -- i don't know if you considered it a struggle in the case that you had to deal with. but what can't be lost in this is what a 6-year-old is like. a child who you wouldn't really leave alone in a bathtub still. a child that doesn't even maybe know how to tie their shoes yet. i've got a 5-year-old, these are still babies. how did you work through that when you were facing that case back in 2000. >> well i checked the politics out of the door when i walked in the office and i went to the lawyers and had them do some research and it is clear within 24 hours maybe even sooner than that, the first time i talked to cnn. >> i wasn't going to charge this kid. you have to have two things to

have a crime, we have the act here, the shooting. two, you have to have the mens rea to form the intent. children that old has been held by courts for centuries, decades not to be able to form the intent necessary to commit a crime. so take that off the table. this is a civil case regarding him. the community ought to wrap its arms around this young kid and try to get him out of that horrific situation where his parent obviously thinks that guns will protect her but doesn't understand that they don't protect the community and especially children and hers. could have just as been heasily the child been injured. so this is a mindset in america that has to change. the mindset has to be less on rights of somebody, less on the parents' fear and more on the victims or potential victims which is you and me and my kids and your kids. i think that the country needs

to have a constitutional amendment for victim rights. the outrageous thing here is that we have many states who have victim rights, crime victim rights in the state constitutions. the united states constitution doesn't. so when the supreme court comes calling, and i've argued a case in front of the supreme court about a school shooting, way back in just a couple of years after this case. they're more interested in the nra point of view and less interested in the victims. and i would be happy to argue that any day of the week, whether we should care about dead school children or wounded school children versus the right to have these guns and when we get into the constitution, that debate will change significantly. >> right now we are still looking at the very most basic level a 6-year-old, a community shattered, a 6-year-old's life shatter and a family shattered and something that you very sadly are very familiar with in

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damar hamlin is back in buffalo and doctors now say he could be released from the hospital within the next 24 to 48 hours. it has been just a week since he collapsed during the game against the bengals suffering

cardiac arrest on the field. let's get over to coy wire. he is in buffalo for us once again. coy, an incredible recovery considering where he was a week ago. >> reporter: yeah, kate, huge, wonderful news expected to come within the coming hours. i just spoke with michael hughes, chief administrative officer telling me deers are finishing tests to determine whether there were pre-existing conditions that caused his cardiac arrest and optimism that was not the case, rather it was the collision that was the cause. mr. hughes tells us the hospital plans to release a written health update within the coming hours. we may even seen, kate, a photo of damar with some of his new friends at buffalo general. the nurses who have been described as mother hens and second fathers to the family here, there's also optimism, kate, that hamlin will be heahe healthy enough to be released

within 24 to 48 hours and even better news we're also told that by mr. hughes that hamlin's parents flew from cincinnati to pittsburgh and then back here to buffalo and this morning they were at the bills facilities but then they made their way up here to buffalo general to be alongside their song once again. >> coy, thank you so much. joining me now for more is dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, he could be released in the next 4 to 48 hours. are you surprised to see him make this rapid recovery? >> yeah, i mean, it's pretty fast, no question. i mean, most of the data when you look at sudden cardiac arrest admittedly are in people older and not professional athletes. being in his early 20s probably helped him but it's a fast recovery, no question. >> why this happened is still a question. we know his doctors say he's going to continue to go through testing to determine the cause of the collapse and of the

cardiac arrest. i want to play what his doctors said about this. let me play there. >> we anticipate that he will undergo, you know, an ongoing series of tests and evaluations to determine the etiology of what caused the incident on monday night and to treat any pathology that may be found. >> what kind of testing could they need to do or are they going to do to try to figure this out? >> was there some sort of electrical problem that was, you know, already existed in his heart. was there something that was congenital, something he may have had his whole life but never was an issue till now. was his heart too large, something known as cardiomyopathy. these are the sorts of things they look for and honestly a lot of that testing is probably already done and you just heard from coy's reporting as well that mr. hughes, i guess, at the hospital there in buffalo said if the findings so far hold true, then the injury was caused strictly by blunt force trauma

meaning that that was the cause. they don't know for sure. they're not saying for sure yet but so far that's what the early test findings have shown. >> do we see that then collectively as good news if it was caused only by blunt force trauma? >> that's a good question. i mean, you know, i think it does raise this question then for someone like him, for example, if you've had this happen to you once where you had this arrhythmia as a result of blunt force trauma are you more likely to have it happen to you again? we know that with concussions, for example, kate, if you've had one concussion you are more likely to have a second. that's what they'll try to answer as well. but this is rare and so there's not a lot of data on this so i think that will be a judgment call that the doctors and mr. hamlin and his family make together, you know, what does this mean for him going forward. >> that's right. because i have been wondering what the doctor, what his family, what he needs to see to know that he can get back to playing. >> right, and does it mean

something even more broadly for the nfl in terms of protectors of the sternum. i mean, we went through this conversation with helmets, right, and concussions, again, i just want to stress this is rare so i don't want to make a mountain out of mole hole but still may warrant discussion. >> when you see what happened to him it's definitely going to spark a discussion, spark a conversation, but truly amazing and wonderful, it's great to report good news that he's doing so well and could be out in the next 24 to 48. good to see you, sanjay, thank you. >> thank you. >> really appreciate it. thank you all so much for joining us at this hour. i'm kate bolduan. thanks for watching. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. hello and welcome to "inside politics," i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing a busy news day with us. a mistak