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many protests peaceful, but many anything but savvy. police skwaquaring off with citizens. the pictures have been troubling and jarring at the same time. these protests started, of course, as a demand for justice over the killing of george floyd at the hand and knee of minnesota police officers. to this point, since floyd's death, 4,000 arrests in those protests across the country. here's some of what we've been seeing in cities across the country from philadelphia to new york, atlanta, chicago, los angeles, and of course minneapolis. but the protests have not just been confined to big cities. people in communities large and small finding their voice. but for all the violence, tear gas and looting, there have also been some compelling stories of compassion, like this one, shreveport, louisiana. a police officer there stepping in to support a protestor overcome with emotion. some police dropping their batons in riot here, joining the
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march for justice and peace, finding common ground. like this picture from nashville, tennessee, a p protestor and a police officer sharing their thoughts and fears in a country filled with crisis. a police officer kneeling to pay his respects for george floyd, a man who died at the hand of his own officers, now at the center for this call of justice. a call echoed by neighboring mayor of st. paul saying justice is the only way forward. >> there is a culture of policing that we all know is a too ugly part of our history. there is a culture of abuse, there is a culture of violence, there is a culture of escalation in policing that cannot continue to be a part of our future. holding these officers accountable is absolutely critical for turning the page on that culture. >> let's go straight now to our correspondents in some of the hardest hit cities. cnn's stephanie elam in los
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angeles, omar jimenez. omar, we begin with you. take us to what was a very troubling weekend. >> reporter: john, over the course of days, we seem to wake up and show you the destructive aftermath of protests. what you see behind me is the aftermath of peaceful protests. this is actually the site where george floyd was seen on cell phone video down on the pavement under the knee of officer derek chauvin. this has become a makeshift memorial. they have tried to stem what one governor described as 48 hours of anarchy. saturday was probably the turning point in all of this where we saw the strongest law enforcement response yet in regards to they pushed into the protestors rather than waiting back and allowing them to come forward and they used a lot of disbursal tactics as well to, again, try to prevent the
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protesting they had seen during the daytime from turning into some of the violent rioting, looting and buildings on fire. yesterday seemed to be a manifestation of that. largely peaceful protests including here. this is where the police officer came to show his respects and stand in solidarity with the peaceful protestors. there is a curfew in effect at 8:00 p.m. there were peaceful protestors in the intersection here who came just after 8:00 p.m. and stayed until 6:00 a.m. through the night even though officers were waiting at bay. they decide to do let them stay here in peaceful protest. that doesn't mean we're not going to see more protests. people here are still waiting to see if more charges will be filed against these officers, how things are going to proceed with the officer already charged, derek chauvin, in this, and we do expect to hear from the floyd family through their attorney over the results of an independent autopsy, john. so a lot of factors moving
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forward. >> i want to go to stephanie elam now, looters rampage across the region. one of the many places where the national guard was also involved. what's the latest? >> reporter: very much the case here, john. we saw in three different places in l.a. over the last three days. friday night it was downtown l.a., and then saturday it was here in the melrose fairfax district where you can see they're still out here cleaning up and painting up, covering up some of the graffiti that's still out here. there is a building down there that we can every now and then still smell it smoldering so the fire department still here. and santa monica yesterday where we saw a faceoff. we know there were hundreds of arrests there yesterday. overall there were like 500 arrests on friday, same thing on saturday. so a lot of arrests as we see these protests change tone later in the day. also noting what they're planning on doing here today. we know that in beverly hills and santa monica, they're planning to having the business
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district's curfew i mplemented t 1:00 p.m., then the rest of the city's areas at 4:00 p.m. also getting word the state is looking to shut down any of their state buildings in downtown areas. they notified their staff last night to make it clear they should just stay away, some of these offices beginning to reopen here as we're still very much dealing with coronavirus which seems to have been almost forgotten. i took a tour out here yesterday walking through this very area in the morning, and there were a lot of people out here very close together. not everyone was wearing masks. and you've seen some of that happening throughout some of these protests here, which is still a very big concern for a lot of the health officials as we're watching these two issues play out here on the streets of los angeles, john. >> stephanie elam, thanks so much from the west coast in los angeles. one more headline for you here. this is the "washington post" in the nation's capitol, the "washington post" using the word
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p preci precipice. chaos across the street there. the president at one point taken to a bunker underneath. >> reporter: that's right, john, at one point the president had to go to an underground bunker near the white house for nearly an hour as protestors came close to the fence of the white house. we have seen police push back those protestors near lafayette park, extending that perimeter, but it did not stop the violence we saw in the aftermath of more peaceful protests here in washington. the question, though, john, is also one of rhetoric and how president trump can go forward and address the protests and the unrest we have seen over these last several days. and the president's aides, john, are divided over how the president should address the nation, and whether or not he should more formally address the nation at this time of crisis in this country. there are different camps, though, john, some of the aides believe the president should be
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focusing on how he can calm the situation, how he can address the grievances of these protestors and call for calm in the country. other aides to the president believe that he needs to forcefully condemn and forcefully respond to the riots that have sometimes evolved out of these protests in the last several days. what's clear, john, is the president is trying to do both things. we heard him on saturday give a more comprehensive response to the protests, saying he respects the right of the peaceful protests, but he would do everything to stop what he called mob violence. but on twitter, john, which sometimes is the best way to get a sense of where the president's head is at, the president has been far more forceful and really focused on attacking democrats and also threatening protestors in a way where he says that police should be really clamping down much more forcefully on some of these protests that we are seeing across the country. so that discussion is certainly still evolving at the white house, john. there are also discussions where
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the president could meet with some members of the african-american community and hold some listening sessions. we'll still moderate whether that is the path the president chooses. >> jeremy, appreciate that. as jeremy mentioned, law and order is the focus today. there is a spirited debate among the president's advisers about how he should handle this tinderbox moment. a national address is one idea, listening sessions is another. his press secretary says it is not going to stop antifah. they called the president's recent statements unhelpful and are skeptical any words from this president can help. >> none of his statement will be similar to the one he gave during the charlottesvil charlottesville uprising, no, that would not be helpful. unless he is going to speak unity and respect and reconciliation and reform for our communities, then i don't
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think he should make a statement at all. it will only make matters worse. >> do you think president trump is capable of making a statement calling for unity? >> i think that he is capable of reading one. >> with me now is jesse gray holland. he is a political analyst with the black newschannel. jesse, it's great to see you. i wish the circumstances were different. when you listen to the mayor of a major american city, it is striking when you put in context, when you have the mayor of a major american city, and there are many of them, saying it would be unhelpful for this president of the united states to speak out and try to unify the country at this moment. >> out of all the things that we're hearing the president's advisers telling him to say, for some reason i'm not hearing them suggest the president should speak out against police violence on african-american men and women. i mean, that's what we need to
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hear. we're trying to fight a fire without looking at the cause. and one of the things we're seeing over and over, and unfortunately we're learning, is that we can't depend on national leadership to speak up and help solve some of these problems. we're now having to look at local and state leaders hoping that they're going to step up. we're no longer waiting for a national savior to come help us, john. we need to have our local leaders and our state leaders speak up and step up to stop the violence, not just the violence of the looters, which should be stopped, but the violence that is coming from our police department. how many times do we have to talk about this? >> to the point you're making, jesse, just a short time ago, the former president of the united states, the former president of the united states, barack obama, published on medium his thoughts, and among them is the point you were just making. he said people need to get out of the street.
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let's not excuse violence or rationalize it or participate in it. if we want our criminal justice system and american society at large to operate at a higher ethical code, then we have to model that code ourselves. if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn't between protest and politics, we have to do both. we have to mobilize to raise awareness and we have to cast our ballots to make sure we will act on reform. the president also urging these protestors. he said stop. stop the violence. stop the damage. but be as specific as you can be, making the point that police reform in minneapolis might look very different than police reform in a rural area as well. those are things we have not heard from the current president of the united states. >> that's right. i mean, once again, we're not going to wait to hear from the current president. it's too late. those comments should have been made from this president days ago. in fact, the day that george floyd died should have been the day that we heard from our president to say to our police
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office officers, not all of them are bad police officers, but for the ones who are, he should have been saying to them, stop the violence. nobody ever says that looting should be done. looters should be arrested. but we have a constitutional right to petition our government for better treatment, not just our federal government, our state government, our local government. the president doesn't control anyone's police force. it's the mayors, it's the governors of our states. they are the ones who need to step up to our police departments, to our police chiefs and say, this is unacceptable and we have to stop it. and you know what? we should get out there and protest. we should get out there and vote. we should not think so much about the presidential race, but let's think about our mayor races, let's think about our sheriff department races. those are the people who are on the ground with us right now, and they need to be held accountable for how they treat our communities. >> it is hard to believe, and in my case it was 28 years ago.
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i was in los angeles with governor bill clinton in the wake of the rodney king clients, and the verdict you had play out, unrest in america in the middle of a campaign. a little flashback here. >> as an american citizen, i was mystified and disappointed in the jury verdict of the king case. i was outraged by much of what followed, innocent people being killed and burned out and looted and maimed. i want to hear from you, what you think we ought to do together, what you want from a president, what you want from your national government. >> we stand to defend decency and honor. we stand to defend and protect the honest men and women in this country. and that's the message that i think has gone out. >> you had there, i remember very well, a bit of a contrast where bill clinton was, i want to hear from you, i want to listen. he went to the streets of los angeles. he went to the neighborhood where that happened.
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george w. bush a very decent man but in context there, you saw the pictures behind him. military, police officers, law and order. >> one of the things that i'm looking for as i'm out and about and watching these things, i'm looking to see if our mayors, our governors, are out there in the streets talking to their constituents instead of hiding behind in their offices and telling their spokesmen to go out and talk to them. these are the people you're supposed to be representing, our mayors, our governors, you're supposed to prerepresent the people. why aren't you out there? why do you sit back and watch when you know this has happened over and over. i was out in the streets in ferguson, missouri after michael brown died. where are our leaders? you know what? i'm so sick of people asking, where are our black leaders? this is not an african-american problem, this is an american problem. where are our american leaders? where are our white leaders?
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where are our leaders who are going to be out there and help us solve this problem instead of sitting back, worried about property instead of lives. >> excellent points and insights. jesse j. holland, appreciate your time today. i'm grateful. >> thank you. >> take care, jesse. as we go to break, a reminder most of the protestors want their message delivered peacefully like this outside the white house. ♪ e peace of mind of knowing that essentials like prescriptions are on their way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you. and we always will.
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a key demand of the protestor is all four officers who were right there when george
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floyd died face charges and those protestors want charges filed immediately. only the officer who pinned his knee to his neck has been charged so far. the star tribune noting here in its headlines that the minnesota attorney general was just promoted by the governor as lead prosecutor in this case, keith ellis asking for patience. >> we are moving as expeditiously, as quickly and effectively as we can. but i need to protect this prosecution. i am not going to create a situation where somebody can say this was a rush to judgment. in the rodney king case, the jury acquitted. so we have to be careful, methodical, and we have to make sure we're playing the long game. >> joining me now is don he is special prosecutor for
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castile. you know in the castile case, the officer was acquitted. when you hear the attorney general saying please give me time to build a case so it is airtight, do you believe in that approach to law enforcement? >> i do agree that you've got to make sure that you have the evidence that supports the charges. i do also agree that you have to act urgently. so i suspect that the attorney general, who is now supervising this case, will do his best to collect the relevant evidence. i'm hoping he can do it within 30 days. there is just tremendous public pressure and urgency to move forward. >> as we move forward, one of the unique elements of this case is that often police departments retreat into a co coopcocoon, iu will. he showed up at the makeshift
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memorial yesterday. listen to his words. >> they want to know if the other officers should be arrested in your mind and if they all four should be convicted in this case. >> mr. floyd died in our hands, so i see that as being complicit. that is about as much -- i apologize to the floyd family if i'm not more clear, but i don't see a difference in terms of the ultimate outcome is he is not here wis. >> the chief saying he's trying to be careful in his words, but he also said the department, and i assume he means the other three officers on the scene, are complicit. how important could that be in a criminal case? >> that is indeed a difficult statement for those who are going to be defending the officers. these officers will very likely be charged with aiding and a betting derek chauvin in the killing of george floyd. but in order to prove that, they're going to have to prove
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some element of intent that in their actions, these officers intended the same result that derek chauvin intended. i think keith ellison is very, very aware that that is -- you know, there is some strong evidence but there is also some weak points that the defense can take advantage of. >> and so in the case of officer chauvin, who has been charged, and he is the officer whose knee is pinned to mr. floyd's neck for nine minutes, he ignored the gasps, the pleas for help, so you have compelling evidence there. listen to the attorney of the floyd family who says he has been charged with third-degree murder which they seem to be saying they don't believe it was am premeditated -- did we just lose the shot there with mr. lewis? try to fix that. we'll take a quick break and be right back.
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wants to label it. there is a lot of finger pointing going on right now about who is to blame for all this protest and violence. donie o'sullivan has been looking into it for us. donie, there is a lot of people pointing fingers. what do we actually know? >> reporter: this is a tough one. it's very possible groups on the far right and the far left are trying to agitate here. politicians and elected officials at all level, state, city and federal, are making a lot of statements that really have no evidence. the governor of minnesota has been blaming a lot of people out of town for the destruction, even going so far saturday morning as blaming 80% of the destruction on people from out of state. he had to walk that back. and president trump and his allies are blaming antifah, and the president going as far
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yesterday as saying he would definitely blame the antifah organization and the far right on the agitation here. >> as this plays out, there is a lot on social media which is not accurate, but one of the suggestions made here are foreign elements are at least trying to stoke things. what do we know about that? >> reporter: that's right, john, in fact marco rubio tweeted on saturday night that he was seeing evidence that there was agitation from foreign countries, again, not offering any proof from that. we should mention that when this last happened in minneapolis in 2016 with philando castile, we learned that russia was very active using facebook, but that was a broader campaign in 2016. in terms of what we're seeing from other countries, of course,
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the social unrest across america is colliding, sadly, with the coronavirus crisis. large crowds chanting and gathering in large crowds. yes, we do see masks in these protest scenes, but public officials see these events as super spreaders of infections. it was already a challenging moment with the coronavirus. this is just how the country ranks globally. the united states approaching 1.8 million confirmed cases you see well ahead of any of the other leaders, if that's what to call them, on the global case board. if you look at the map where are we in the united states, 18 states heading in the wrong direction. that's the darker orange. that means your case count is going up 20% compared to last week in the lighter orange, 15% in the dark. nine states are holding steady.
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23 states, green, heading in the right direction, their case count heading down. but you see a swath across the southeast. little dots as well of states heading in the wrong direction at the moment. illinois has also been a major coronavirus hot spot. look at this. its seven-day moving track has been going down, but illinois has been heading in the right direction. oregon a relatively low case count, but you see in recent days that curve going back up. could be just a couple days of a blip, but you don't want your average spinning that way. you see again the seven-day moving average in cam cal stali trending up again. that's not what you want in any moment, specially especially as people out in the streets. dr. sanjay gupta with us. sanjay, at this moment with people going back to work, when you look at these scenes, some
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of them are pretty troubling. >> yeah, i think so. there are a few different factors you have to consider. one is, obviously, the distance that people are between each other. a lot of people have heard this physical distancing of six feet. but also there's a few other things like, john, what constitutes a close contact? for someone like you if you had coronavirus, what would constitute a close contact? distance, yes, but also duration longer than 15 minutes, environment inside or outside. are you wearing a mask? these are some of the things on the screen that people should be doing to try and reduce their risk. what we don't know, john, and again, this is a new coronavirus. we know it's a very contagious virus, but it will be something to see over the next few weeks just how much of an impact this has. were people spending a lot of time right next to each other? how much difference does the mask and outside environment make? i think it will be a significant impact. people worry about these few spreading events, a few people being the cause of most of the
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spread of the virus, and we don't know if that's going to be an impact amongst these protests, but we never experienced anything like this. the closest thing, john, was probably back 100 years ago when there were parades during the influenza pandemic in 1918-1919 during that time. maybe there's some parallels there. but as you said, there is a lag time. we'll see in the next few weeks. >> i'm holding up the seattle newspaper here. you can't see this that i'm holding up on television, but it's remarkable. most of the protestors here are wearing masks, in other scenes they are not. sanjay, this is just an unprecedented moment. we're in the middle of a pandemic ask now we have social runnest unrest across the country. you would think the american association of pediatrics would be focused on the coronavirus, but they weighed in. the aap condemns sli ens
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violence, especially when perpetrated by authorities and calls for a deep examination of how to improve the role of policing. systemic violence requires systemic response. what do we think about this unrest? >> a few years ago, john, this would have been unheard of. they focus on critical issues over time, and especially now. the american association of pediatrics, the american medical association, other big companies, all releasing statements with the same message. it's striking because these are very straightforward medical associations, but also we're in the middle of a pandemic so most of the' me messaging has been a the pandemic disease. we appreciate the fact there are these protests going on in the middle of a pandemic and here's what we choose to say, talking about racism as a public health
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issue, talking about police brutality as a public health issue as well. i think it was quite striking, and frankly, john, quite important as well to hear from them in this way. >> dr. gupta, really appreciate your insights. thank you. just ahead for us, philadelphia among the cities facing major protests. a pastor joins us to share his thoughts. and reliability, and the highest capacity in history. with more coverage and more bandwidth to keep your employees connected, you will get the largest and most reliable network at an unbeatable price. t-mobile for business.
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some details now on a call we told you about at the top of the hour, president trump speaking with the nation's governors on a conference call. cnn's ryan nobles has some of the details. ryan, what do we know?
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>> reporter: it seems as though president trump is taking a very heavy hand with these governors across the country, admonishing them for not acting quicker to take on the riots happening in some of their states. in particular, he's been critical of these governors not to employ the use of the national guard to try and quell the violence in many of their states. and at one point, president trump was very forceful in his criticism of the way the governors have handled this, that they need to take on the fact that this is a radical left group, as he called it, that is agitating many of these protests across the country. he told these governors that it is a movement, and if you don't quell a movement quickly, it will go out of control. he actually went so far, john, as to say if they don't take this on quickly, they will look weak, and he actually said most of you are weak. the president, according to many of our sources whao have been
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listening in to this call have been agitated at times, rambling on about how these governors are handling it. what's interesting, john, he's very much been giving praise to governor tim walz of minnesota, crediting him for bringing in the national guard and essentially taking over the situation from the mayor of minneapolis. this is president trump not backing down at all. it goes in line with much of our reporting we've been talking about, his approach to this from a law and order perspective, that that needs to be taken care of quickly, and this is the message that he's sending to governors right now, not mincing words with them, in his opinion not doing enough to take care of the situation within their states. john? >> ryan nobles, very important reporting. very much appreciate it, ryan. thank you very much. looting, fires, violence, this is the scene. you see the images right here. this is the city of brotherly love, philadelphia. the mayor there calling looters
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in his city ananarchists. police hit with, among other things, bricks and molitov cocktails. the city is closed as they brace for possibly another night of unrest. former philadelphia eagles running back and a pastor of the greater exodus baptist church. pastor, thank you so much for being with us today. when you see these scenes playing out in your city, there is an important social justice message, an important message of needed police reforms, but then you see the looting, the violence, officers under attack. where is the circuit breaker? what can be done? >> well, i think the first thing that has to happen is the president has to begin to speak and take advantage of this moment. this is a bipartisan moment. this is a moment where we all agree, everybody agrees that what happened to mr. floyd was wrong. he needs to walk over there and talk to ms. pelosi, they need to get together and make a joint
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statement and that is a street movement. we have to get to the streets. it's as simple as that. it's time for compromise. this is a 9/11 moment for our country, and we can come together around this, but in order to do mr. president, please leave us. the country is in crisis and the country needs a leader. you are a son of memphis since you were 14-year-old. a lot of people look at the pictures and they think of 1968 and think of after rodney king, many police died since then. as you ask for the president to step forward here. where are we? how do you see the historical context here? >> going back to when i was 13
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or 14-years-old, i remember they reflect each other. we need leadership. i can't emphasize it enough. i may not have enough opportunity to say something to get to our president. mr. president, we need you to reach out and bring us all together. i heard one of your guests say it is too late. it is not too late mr. presid t president. get on the horn, get busy bringing us together. >> when you heard our correspondents saying that the president is weak asaying our g are weak and they should be tougher. is that what you want to hear
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from the the president? >> what happened to mr. floyd was a beasley act. we can't hate the beast so much that we become the beast ourselves. it is important that we use discretion and compassion and right now we only have one death as a result of this riot. let's not lose anybody else again. >> grateful for your time today and your insight. appreciate it. >> i am praying for the country and praying for you, john. god bless you. >> thank you very much. coming up for us, protesters around the world shows solidarity across america holding demonstrations on their own for the death of george floyd. is that net carbs or total?...
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the world is watching this time of testing here in america and many places joined in protests. this is toronto. similar story in new zealand and berlin, berlin. in london, this is the scene outside u.s. embassy. that confrontation following protests in other parts of
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london as well and on downing street, outside the prime minister's office. melissa ward is here with us. >> across europe and west new zealand. you are seeing this grief and outrage and solidarity with the black lives matter movement. here in the u.k. as you mentioned we saw protests throughout the day and yesterday taken place in a number of different parts of the city. some people congregated outside the u.s. embassy holding out signs saying "justice can't wait." well saw protests at the streets of berlin and copehagen. they are truly shocked by it even though it has become more and more common, they are
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outraged and they want to show their solidarity with the black lives matter movement. on the other hand you have countries that are authoritarian. americans hypocris america hypocrisy, it is usually the u.s. for using force against their own people and suppressing journalists from doing their jobs and so all and all what you have is a broader picture of people looking to the u.s. and feeling either shocked or horrified by what's happening or feeling almost gratified by what's happening because it pays into their narrative about the u.s. being bevolant.
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>> clarissa ward, thank you for that. at the top of the hour now, i am john king in washington. thank you jurfor sharing your d with us. right now we are waiting to hear from governor tim walz and president trump with the conference call he had with governors the last hour. he called the governors weak so far. barack obama says let's not excuse violence or rationalize it or participate in it. the former president says we have to model the ethical code ourselves. demand for justice and people calling

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