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claim attorney-client privilege on that conversation with that lawyer. it was very public. >> those guys are great. you know, sometimes they try to make a statement and sometimes just trying to get press for the show and be funny and they use it to wrap up a good message in there. joe, good to see you, as always. and to our viewers, aappreciate you being here with me. stay tuned for wolf blitzer. >> the taliban claim revenge for osama bin laden's death and warn u.s. forces to be the next target. plus, syrians run from protests and clashes with security forces. at this hour, the unrest and the challenges president obama will address in a major speech in the middle east next week. and the newest republican candidate says he's annoyed about the way bin laden went after bin laden. i'll ask congressman ron paul and whether he really thinks
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that he can win the white house. i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room." the taliban warn that this will not be the only death. they are claiming back to back suicide bombings at a pakistani training facility in northwest pakistan. at least 80 people were killed, most of them pakistani army recruits. reza is joining us live from islamabad with pretty horrendous crime. what are they saying where you are, reza? >> reporter: well, wolf, this was a coordinated attack designed to kill a lot of people and indeed it did just that. twin suicide attacks targeting hundreds of army recruits that had just finished an extended training session, about nine months. they were celebrating the night before. they came out of this facility early this morning, ready to go
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home, about to board some vans and that's when police say a suicide attacker came on the scene, and people were there to help and that's when police said another suicide attacker, and the aftermath was an awful seen, body parts and debris, grief-stricken survivors. as you mentioned earlier, indeed, the pakistani taliban has said this is pay back for the death of bin laden. >> they are bracing for more of these kinds of attacks. is that right? >> indeed they are. there was rarely a stretch in pakistan over the last couple of years when they have not seen these kinds of attacks. with bin laden, the taliban coming out and vowing revenge and it really drives home the pressure, both pakistan and the u.s. are under.
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if pakistan continues to be viewed by the militants as a u.s. slack, he's a partner of the u.s. and if the u.s. continues to be hit with the unilateral action, these raids and drone strikes, again, pakistan is going to be hit. you have to wonder how much this country can endure. >> shifting gears a little bit, reza, what are they saying about these reports that we have confirmed at cnn, that among the videotapes discovered in the compound, were pornographic video, pretty explicit video. what are they saying in pakistan? >> reporter: yeah, it's no surprise this story is already making headlines to source close to the investigation who knows about the items recovered by these u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s on the raid. they say that the u.s. soldiers found a stach of pornography in this particular compound. it's not clear who they belong to if indeed they belong to
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osama bin laden or if they belong to his son, a courier. this is certainly fodder for water cooler talk. a man may have been in possession of important nalgraphy. there has been a debate if it's forbidden and generally speaking, a muslim scholar says it is because the koran says you shouldn't go near items that would lead you to sin and lewdness and certainly pornography could fall into that. >> less than two weeks after president obama revealed that osama bin laden was u.s. policy for the middle east. the white house announcing today mr. obama will deliver a major speech on the region over at the state department. this coming on thursday. let's turn to our senior white house correspondent ed henry. he's working the story for us. a lot on the agenda for the
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president right now. what's the point of this major address next thursday? >> reporter: wolf, they have high hopes of resetting things in the mid-east and showing how the u.s. wants to react, all of the tumult. but a surprise with the mid-east envoy stepping down may overshadow all of that. in next thursday's big speech, president obama is planning to use the killing of osama bin laden to make the point that the uprising throughout the mid-east represent a rejection of al qaeda. a case the president first tried to make two years ago in a more formal address. >> the attacks on september 11, 2001, and the continued efforts of this extremist to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view islam as hostile, not only to america and western countries but also to human rights. i have come here to cairo to seek a new beginning, between
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the united states and muslims around the world. >> reporter: aides say this speech is aimed at a broader audience than just the muslim world and will come two days after the president meets with the king of jordan. a critical moment because the hopes that the president express for mid-east peace just three months ago are fading fast. >> i think the opportunity is bad when you have the kinds of young people who are in tahrir square thinking that they have hope and they less likely channel their frustrations into anti-western sentiment because they see the prospect of building their own country and that's a positive.
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the challenge is that democracy is messy. >> reporter: so messy that george mitchell has now abruptly stepped down as the mid-east enjoy. >> there is no such thing as a conflict that cannot be ended. >> reporter: mitchell to great fan fair, his exit raises questions about whether the president's speech will have much substance on the peace process after all. >> very talented guy with a lot of integrity and there was very little reason for him to continue. >> it's interesting, the president has put out a statement allotting george mitchell to only be on the job for two years and leaves behind a legacy. saying it's being known as the arab spring, all of the uprising. given the pessimism building in the region in some cases, it
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could be known as the arab winter, wolf. >> the timing of this decision is going to raise a lot of questions, as you point out. coming on the eve, just before the president's big speech next week. his meetings with these middle eastern leaders will continue to work the story. ed, thanks very much. there's growing concern within the obama administration about serious crackdown on anti-government protesters. disturbing new reports of clashing between demonstrators and security forces. cnn hala is here with us. the situation in syria seems to be getting worse and worse? >> yes. and it's the most important story in the world that nobody is able to cover because of the media black out imposed by the government and because it's impossible for journalists to travel there. although, one western reporter made it into today despite the crackdowns, despite the mass arrests by the government and
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telling us about thousands of people to the streets across syria. here's what happened today. >> reporter: a woman lying in the street, bleeding from what appears to be a massive head wound and we cannot independently confirm the date or the location this was filmed. but these are rare images of women that apparently are taking part in anti-regime demonstrations that have spread throughout syria since mid-march. friday, despite the risks, eyewitnesss tell us demonstrators came out and homes where several deaths were later reported. in damascus, protesters run from tear gas and the chaos. one of the only western journalists to sneak inside
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syria, martin fletcher of the times of london describes parts of a country under virtual military occupation. >> the city is surrounded by checkpoints and i counted at least 100 tanks in a row. in a line. prepared for any eventuality. >> reporter: human rights groups and the u.n. say at least 700 people have been killed in protests. the regime continues to say armed gangs are responsible for the violence. but activists worry the crackdown will only intensify. >> will they bomb cities with aircrafts? >> the government is still talking of national dialogue. it says it is considering political, economic, and social reforms that serve the interest
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of the people. but few on the streets of syria say they believe anything they hear from their leaders anymore. >> i guess the bottom line question is, what does this mean for bashar al assad and his regime? >> it seemed that they were very nervous and they cracked down early on. unlike egypt, people aren't coming out in their millions. they are coming out in their thousands. and in rather isolated spots. so it's easy for the regime to put out the flames where these fires erupt. right now they seem in control of the situation and many of the observers inside and outside the country say they believe the regime should be able to survive this, though it will be weakened. >> it will definitely be weakened. the international committee is outraged. it's interesting, bashar al assad is ordering his troops to kill the syrians.
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also, mubarak left the media. in syria, they are not letting you or anyone. martin fletcher snuck it. >> that's right. he posed as a tourist, said he was a teacher and was very careful not to take pictures or record any video because he knew if detained, that would be the first thing they looked for. then indeed he was told not to leave and then he was the lucky one. >> there are two martin fletchers. one for nbc and this one for the times of london. >> all right. >> so two different martin fletchers. thank you very much. moammar gadhafi is trying to convince the world that he survived the bomb on his country. and would ron paul survive legalizing heroin. his more controversial views as he kicks off the presidential
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we are getting information that there has been discovered at bin laden's compound an unreleased audiotape that bin laden had produced in late april, only days before he was killed in support of the so called arab spring, the uprising in north africa and the middle east. the message on this unreleased audiotape refers to the egypt and tunisia but does not mention any other uprising or elsewhere through the region. the official says this is puzzling because bin laden was a fierce opponent of gadhafi, for example, in libya the assumption had been that gadhafi might have mentioned and libya he did not. but they are not releasing this audiotape so we are not playing the audiotape or anything like that but we are getting more
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information. we wanted to alert you that there is an unreleased audiotape of bin laden in the possession of u.s. intelligence right now. m moving on to other important information, ron paul says the time is right for his libertarian views. i spoke with the congressman about some of his more controversial positions as he kicked off his bid in new hampshire. >> on the whole issue of fema, the federal emergency management agency, do you want to see that agency ended? >> well, if you want to live in a free society. if you want to pay attention to the constitution, why not? i think it's bad economics. i think it's bad morality and it's bad constitutional law. why should people like myself who will not too long ago a house on the gulf coast and it's expensive there and risky and dangerous, why should somebody
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from central part of the united states rebuild my house. why shouldn't i have to buy my own insurance and protect about the potential danger. well, the reason we don't have marketed insurance, it's because it's expensive. why? because it's dangerous. why should we take money from somebody else. i'm trying to get people to not do dumb things because it's not authorized in the constitution. >> if there's a disaster, like flooding or an earthquake or hurricane catherinkatrina, whatg with asking fellow americans? >> they have very traditionally, americans are getting poorer and are not able to come to the rescue. but to coerce people, to ask them to help, that is fine and
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dandy. but when you bankrupt our country and nobody has a job and then they say, fema needs to bail out everybody, they want to know if it's true that ron paul wants to legalize heroin in the united states. >> you know, it's amazing. i spent about 20 minutes on this sort of mocking this type of attitude. you know, i've never mentioned heroin. but if you look at a truly free society, that's what it would lead to. people would make personal choices. the reason i want to legalize freedom of choice is so that you have a freedom of choice of picking any type of treatment that you want for your cancer treatment, to smoke marijuana if it helps you, to be able to drink raw milk if you want to. to go and get nutritional substitutes if you want to without government regulation. it's the legal lie zags of
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freedom that i'm talking about and people's personal choices and responsibility. that is what is so important. so to summarize my position, oh, he wants to legalize heroin, that is a gross distortion. i want to legalize freedom. people make up their own decision. the states right their own regulations. it's sort of what we do with alcohol. that's a much better way. kids can get marijuana easier than they can get alcohol. so the war on drugs needs to be assessed, reassessed, and we need to make a decision uft just as we need to on economic policy and it's all based on the principle of personal liberty and rule of law which is our constitution. >> so i guess the follow up is on the issue of abortion, do you support a woman's right, freedom, to have an abortion? >> i support the protection of all human life and the big question is who is that individual who is a live human being and heartbeat and brain
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waves and has legal rights. it's how do you protect all rights? and the fetus does have human rights and deserves rights. but the problem is, who speaks for them? i'm for repealing row versus wade and it's not an attack on women's rights. they also have responsibility if they are responsible for life. to me, if there is something wrong with a baby, and they don't like it, and the baby is in the crib, nobody accepts the notion, well, there's justification. it's in my house and we don't want to violate a person's privileges in the house so we can throw the baby away. if we don't have respect for life, tla is not much respect for liberty. >> let's wrap it up with a couple of political questions. last time around 2008, you raised a lot of money but in iowa you came in fifth and fifth in south carolina and fifth in florida.
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what makes you think that you will do better this time? >> there are a lot of changes. the country has changed. before i was trying to get people's attention about the seriousness of our economic crisis and the financial bubble and the housing bubble. but that became very clear, you know, in 2008. people are starting to realize that was the case. >> and you're 75, almost 76. i guess that must have been a considerable issue for you, is at this stage in your life, do you want to put in all of this work and then if you're elected, you're obviously going to be late 70s, early 80 sds? is that an issue for you? >> well, i don't know if i felt -- you know, where do i get my energy and my support? the enthusiasm comes from the young people. that really excites me because this issue is so important. it's important to my kids and it's important to all of the kids of america. much more on the interview
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with ron paul in the next hour, including why he disagrees with the president of the united states on the decision to go after bin laden the way that president obama did. meanwhile, the concerns that the united states may have released too many details about the elite military raid on the bin laden's compound. was releasing that information a mistake. and new concern about the safety of the navy s.e.a.l.s. could that put them in serious danger? [ male announcer ] to the seekers of things which are one of a kind. the authentic, the rare, the hard to define.
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all right. the wife of the former egyptian president, hosni mubarak, has been hospitalized. mary snow is monitoring that. what is the latest?
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>> well, they are saying that mubarak suffered a heart attack and is in intensive care. hosni mubarak and members of his regime are being investigated for the deaths of hundreds of protesters in the february uprising that ousted them from power. the trust company of the two trust earlier than expected. social security will now have sufficient resources through 2036. medicare's hospital insurance program likely through 2024. after that, the programs will only be able to pay a portion of the benefits promised retirees. and luckily, a 38-foot sailboat only suffered cosmetic damage after a chance encounter with a whale off oregon. the coast guard says the whale breached the surface of the water and then crushed the rigging and mass as it fell back
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into the water. the boat was participating in a race at the time of the strike. no one was injured, wolf. the crew was in the cockpit at the time. it was a 30-foot long whale. >> at least no one was injured. >> no. new information from evidence on the bin laden raid and how the navy s.e.a.l.s captured the mission on camera. and hundreds of libyans escape by boat. now we uncover some of the dangers that they face. [ male announcer ] to the seekers of things which are one of a kind.
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moammar gadhafi is intent on showing that he is alive. he just released a new audiotape on state television. it's been a while since we've actually seen him live, although there have been video appearances, some audio. what is the latest? what do we know?
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>> reporter: we did see him just a bit ago. that was after not seeing him for almost two weeks. there were pictures of him meeting but it wasn't live. and then today it was very short, a minute long audio clip that he made. it sounded like it was in response and although libyan tv has been killed and saying that they are civilians, that being distributed and directly pointed at nato, calls them the crusaders. >> tell the crusader cowards that i live in a place that you cannot reach or kill me. i live in the hearts of millions and even if you kill my body, you cannot kill my soul. glory is for us. immortality is for the martyrs
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and death and shame is for the cowardly trader spies and their cowardly masters. >> reporter: so calling nato cowards, saying that he cannot live in the heart of millions, defia defiant there from moammar gadhafi. and he also said that you cannot find me. all of this action from nato has forced him into hiding which is probably why we haven't seen him in a live situation for the last couple of weeks. wolf? >> he's obviously very, very worried, understandably so, given what is going on. we'll continue to monitor this. meanwhile, thousands of libyans have risked their lives to escape their homeland. some have made the hair row weeing journey by boat. refugees have been arriving in
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big numbers. >> reporter: they come by sea with fishing boats jammed full: some women and children, all desperate to escape north africa. all willing to risk their lives to get to this tiny island on the edge of europe. for years, most of the boat people were subsaharan african migrants but now there is a new driver, the grinding war in libya. >> it's very dangerous. let me see, i don't know. i can't say. so i have to -- i have to escape. >> it's only noon and this is already the third fishing boat crammed with migrants and
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refugees to land here in just one morning. on friday, more than 1200 refugees from libya landed in a single day. >> we have experienced the reality everywhere in the world. every time you have a war, you have civilians that try to escape. >> reporter: the united nations says more than 30,000 my grants and refugees have landed here in just the last three months. >> this is a russian roulette. you really don't know at this point if you can read the other side of the mediterranean. it's terribly risky. >> reporter: look what happened last sunday? a boat hit the rocks and they struggled to save hundreds of people but not all made it. italian villagers held a funeral service for people from that duped boat. no one even knows their names.
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in the past three months, the u.n. estimates hundreds of boat people died attempting this journey across the mediterranean. faceless victims of a dangerous voyage who never got a funeral. ivan watson, cnn, italy. >> the pentagon chief is raising a red flag about the information that's been leaked about the u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s. will the heroes of the bin laden raid be protected. and we'll show you more coverage of the mississippi flooding. dozens of homes now under water. lexus holds its value better than any other luxury brand. ♪ intellichoice proclaims that lexus has the best overall value of any brand. ♪ and j.d. power and associates ranks lexus the highest in customer satisfaction.
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louisiana governor bobby jindal says authorities could open a critical spillway as early as tomorrow to protect residents bracing for mass flooding in the disaster prone state. but what if that is not enough. >> we've got to be ready for the worst case scenario just in case. this is an historic amount of water. when you look at the volume of the water and duration of the water, this is going to be a marathon. even if they decide to open the spillway, this is not going to be over this weekend. we are going to be facing weeks of elevated water. some parts of our state, the water will be higher than normal through july and august. >> meanwhile, president obama will travel to the flood stricken area on monday to meet with families, first responders, and how bad is it there, martin? >> reporter: well, wolf, we
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moved from memphis, tennessee, down to greenville, tennessee. the water is still rising. you can see the levee at 55 feet and will crest at 65 feet. and there is a devastating impact. this is on the water front here. you can take a look at some of the commercial activity, casinos and the water up to the center of the doorway. we heard of a community called lake ferguson. it's an offshoot of the mississippi but the water is still rising as well. we want to show you the video that we got. because it's really some of the most devastated what we would say devastated areas that we have seen so far in our trek down the river and watching the flooding. and this extended for about three or four miles. r along the banks of this lake
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ferguson. this is following lower lake ferguson road although the road is totally obliterated. only every once in a while do you see the indication that there was a road at some point. we were basically driving along the lakefront. what was striking is the homes. these are not sort of lakefront homes or vacation homes or cottages. these are solid structures and residents at which people live year round. the water in many cases was up to the roof or beyond. those houses where you saw the exposed areas, in other words, that appear to be above water, those are an illusion. they are built on very tall stilts. that was designed to protect them from the typical flooding that happens in this part. uchb fortunately, the water is continuing to rise. everybody is out of those homes and the water has been in those homes for nearly two weeks now. it is going to be a very, very slow process.
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governor hayley barbour was talking about this. the governor has said that he has closed the river down for commercial traffic and not for any pedestrian boaters to be out there. it's too dangerous, too much debris and high tension wires in the water that you may not see or even know that there there. only the experts need to be on the water now. and that's why we were with them. wolf? >> martin, thanks very much. we'll stay in close touch with you. good luck to all of the folks over there. did the united states make a mistake in releasing critical information about the military raid on bin laden's compound? we'll talk about it in our strategy session. plus, much more of my interview with ron paul. could he be a game changer in the republican race for the white house? rts from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy.
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the democratic strategists and republican strategists and tony blackley, they are here in washington. and this party, the conservative and ron paul can do to raise money and for one thing, he's not been able to give up. and that's the kind of movement closer to him now as opposed to 2008. he's a guy, a principal, and
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every time you see him, he is a courteous man. he is a very principal guy. he doesn't take positions from anybody, anything. maybe so. until now, his history has been that he's been able to get a lot of attention and no votes. >> it's true, the country is restraining government but he's for -- he's against the bin laden raid. if you look at his votes, he pays for the price for consistency and that gives him a high floor and low sealinceilin >> how does that affect the fact that he is 70 years, almost 75 years old. >> i think he will be there and come in third, fourth, fifth, which is what he did last time, and he will have to drop out. >> what about mike huckabee? your former governor of
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arkansas? our later poll was that he was atop of the republican field. >> you know, for what you hear he's not going to run because he's doing speeches and stuff like that. you know, once he's run before and did pretty well when he ran he has a path to the domination and i have to put a $2 -- >> he's going to announce tomorrow night. >> i know. >> whether or not he's running. >> that's my exact instincts. when you've run before and have the bug and the best chance of anybody, based on all of the polls, it's amazing to walk away from it. maybe he will. but boy and like sarah palin,
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making millions of dollars, she can't win. and turn that down, it's not something you see too often zen mitt romney, right now in your opinion, is he the leading republican candidate? of all of the people that are in the race, he seems to me to be -- and i don't know how strong -- he's a very strong candidate or whatever, you know, he seems to me to be the person in the best position and, heck, how can huckabee be better for him? >> i don't think there's a front-runner. i think romney is to be cautious but without having the position in the race. he's barely at 18, 20%. that's less than a fif of a percent of the vote.
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and yesterday responded to the letter to "the wall street journal" and criticizing the health care reforms we enacted and the distortions. >> it's reputation, he -- twice governor of massachusetts. okay. >> his weakness -- two weaknesses. one, position on health care. two, the reputation he flip-flopped. i think that he kind of played it as about as well as he could where he decided to say look,this is what i believe and am standing by it. he strengthens his reputation for the forthrightness even as he can't completely fix -- health care is a problem with him. >> quickly on this, did -- did the administration release too many details about this raid on bin laden's compound? i ask you because you were a corporate in the united states army. >> marine corps. secretary of defense -- who slightly above me in the chain
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of command seems to think so. let's see. apparently according to secretary gates i think there is a top man said there was an agreement not to -- what we know is that generally this stuff gets out and gets out pretty soon. you know, i think they are going to get a lot of questions about this. >> the question is where -- where did it -- where was the excessive information from? was it an official leak? was it people in the bowels of the pentagon? certainly the nsc started off in public giving out a surprising amount of information on was it monday, i guess good first day. this is not a one-day story. >> no. this is one of the big stories of our life. from a journalist's point of view you want all that information. the american public wants it. but at the same time they want to make sure navy s.e.a.l.s aren't in danger. >> i'm not sure -- i don't know how -- i'll see but the fact, look, they know the place was
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attacked. bin laden's wives, pakistanis know what happened. >> "the washington post" sunday had an article where it was quoting ex-elrod and different people. just chafing at the bit to play that -- this issue which-to-their advantage. i think that was a wrong strategy. i think they should have done less. >> guys, we will continue this conversation as we always do. we didn't get to your former boss, newt gingrich. >> we able to talk about that. >> guys, thank you very much. cnn went to the scene of the twin suicide bombings in pakistan today. stand by for a full report. going there live on the damage, the taliban's claim of revenge for bin laden's death. also, torrid details from ethics report on former republican senator john ensign. his affair. and the criminal allegations. love to hang out in the kitchen. you love the aroma of beef tenderloin, don't you? you inspired a very special dog food. [ female announcer ] chef michael's canine creations. chef inspired. dog desired.
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it is now up to the justice department to pore over the sordid details over the case of former senator ensign and decide whether the nevada republican should be prosecuted. the senate ethics committee turned over the findings of the investigation stemming from ensign's fair with the wife of a top aide. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash first reported the news of the commit's findings yesterday. she has been going through a lot of the details. all of this, dana, it is sort of like a soap opera. >> it certainly is. in this case the real life story of a self-ascribed christian who had an affair with abuse of power and criminal activity. here's what john ensign told cnn in october 2009. >> we absolutely did nothing except for comply exactly with what the ethics laws and ethics
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rules of the senate state. >> reporter: now not only does the senate ethics committee conclude ensign broke the law and senate rules, the report is a stunning narrative detailing exactly how. the backdrop, extramarital affair with cynthia hampton, a longtime friend and employee and wife of doug hampton, friend, golfing partner, eventually aide in his senate office. the ethics report tells of ensign buying cell phones and using alias e-mails to hide the relationship. telling cynthia hampton he wanted to marry her during this national prayer breakfast. and after they got caught and the affair continued the man ensign called his spiritual adviser tracked him down saying i know exactly where you are and i know exactly what you are doing. put your pants on and go home. torrid details are embarrassing. allegations of criminal behavior that followed are damning. breaking lobbying laws that
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helped the husband get lobbying jobs, again, ensign in 2009. >> we each complied with all of the ethics. remember just like -- you know, we -- senators who -- they have two year. doesn't mean you don't -- >> reporter: the report details evidence of ensign illegally aiding and abetting for the lobbying clients saying he used his office sxand staff to con jl constituents into hirepling hampton. when one wouldn't hire hampton ensign instructed an aide to quote, jack him up to high heaven and tell him he's cut off from the office. then there's the allegation of obstruction of justice. the report says that ensign may have deleted up to 174 e-mails and highly relevant document after the ethics committee told him to preserve everything. and caught up in this, another senator, tom coburn. ensign's good friend who served as an interpete jerry to doug
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hampton. at first pushing ensign to stop the affair with hampton's wife. later meeting with hampton's lawyer three times to discuss a possible financial deal to help him, quote, start over. then balking on hampton asked for $8 million. ensign ainterruptly resigned last week rather than face what the ethics chair woman now says would likely have been expulsion. his farewell speech now even more revealing. >> i even tried not to become caught up in my own self-importance. unfortunately the urge to believe in it was stronger than the cowher to fight it. this is how dangerous the feeling of power and adulation can be. >> ensign's former colleagues said he violated campaign finance laws and made false statements to the practical election commission about $96 thousand payment his parents made to the hamptons. the justice department is reviewing all of the charges which could amount to jail time and as for the senate ethics committee, issuing this kind of
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damning report about one of their season never easy. the fact they were so determined to make it public so fast after ensign resigned last week shows how deeply they think he breached his power. >> does indeed. dana, thanks very much. you are in "the situation room." most shocking revelations to date about what was found in bin laden's house. pornography described by a u.s. official as a large stash. also, taliban revenge from bin laden's killing. twin suicide bombings that have left dozens of people dead. and as congressman paul launches another presidential campaign, very critical of the mission that took out bin laden. i will ask him why. breaking news in political headlines straight ahead. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." it is not all what military planners thought they might find in bin laden's pakistan compound. we are now talking about pornography. sources tell cnn stash of
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explicit material was found by the u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s who took out the world's most wanted terrorist. let's go straight to the pentagon correspondent, chris lawrence who is working the story for us. chris, what are you learning? >> well, wolf, senior who is now confirming to us this was a large stash and said flat out that there was a lot of it. he said it was sexually explicit. he wouldn't get into the details but he said it was varying things in the realm of pornography. although it is believed to contain at least some videos. he wouldn't get into exactly where it was found or whether they could even confirm it belonged to bin laden or one of the other men that also lived at that compound. but we spoke with a former navy s.e.a.l. who says despite al qaeda's promotion of a very strict form of islam, he's not surprised by the discovery. >> i'm not too terribly surprised. i mean, what we need to remember is that we are all human. we are all a part of the human race. and as such, you know, even --
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even hard-core muslims and muslim extremists are human as well. there is a saying in muslim circles, muslim communities, when you are away from mecca, allah is blind. >> again, not only osama bin laden lived there but his son and two couriers. they will have to try to figure out exactly whose pornography this belonged to. >> they also discovered an audiotape we reported in the last hour of -- bin laden apparently made. tell us what we know about that. >> yeah, wolf. he made this audiotape late april, days before he was killed. and it basically speaks to this arab spring that's going on now in the middle east. it talks specifically about some of the uprisings in egypt and tunisia. but the -- what -- what sort of perplexing to some u.s. officials who have seen this is the fact that he does not mention some of the other revolutions taking place in places like syria, uprisings in
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yemen and most especially the one in libya. it is well known that osama bin laden detested moammar gadhafi. the officials are saying they would have thought he would have spoken to that, trying to, you know, give his support to some of those that are participating in the uprising against gadhafi. but these specifically address only tunisia and egypt. they also recovered some written material that suggests osama bin laden wanted to target president obama for an assassination. >> chris lawrence, thank you. pakistani tamm ban say twin sow side attacks were revenge for the death of bin laden. the bombings killed at least 80 people at a military training facility in northwest pakistan. cnn's stan grant has more. >> reporter: ever since the killing of osama bin laden this is day that people here have feared would come. just when would the militants
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strike in revenge, what would be the target. those questions were answered today in spectacular and a violent way. the taliban did this? that one word, enough to strike terror into people here. the militants claiming responsibility for this carnage. revenge for the killing of osama bin laden, they say, a warning of watt what is to come. >> shooting. shooting. >> reporter: both men were taliban. one came on a motorcycle and the other one was walking. we shot him and he ran and exploded the bomb. all around debris. test many to the ferocity of the attack. shattered buildings and blown-out cars. here blood visible on the ground. these are parts of a motorcycle, here you have the mechanism used to kick start the bike that's strewn wreckage and this is the badge of the bike itself. cr-70. scores of wounded rushed the nearby hospital. a scene of grief.
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the number of dead counted in the dozens. in the hours after the attack. rising throughout the day. witnesses tell moments from the dual suicide bombers shattered the morning peace. i heard an explosion and i rushed to the road four minutes later, there was another one, this man says. i saw people dead and injured. even hours after this attack you can see the military is still very edgy. there is a line of them here that have been pushing back, any of the onlookers trying to come down to this scene and especially keeping a very close eye on these buildings along here. the attack is targeted this military training center. members of the frontier military police just finished a nine-month program. these vehicles lined up to collect them. this car carrying a prayer that god will make their journey safe. it was a journey many would never take. almost all the dead, young recruits. victims of what some say is pakistan's double game. killed by the taliban to avenge
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osama bin laden just at the very time the military here is denying claims it was hiding him. pakistan is often described as a puzzle. much of the puzzle is this. one hand allegations for decades that the military, the intelligence service here harbors militants. it deals with the insurgency and it fosters the insurgents. often as a line of defense against potential threat from india. at the same time its alliance with the united states meant hit to go after other militant groups and go after them hard. the reality is, though, that ordinary people, in fact, members of the military even, as we have seen today, acaught in the cross fire. >> thank you. let's dig deeper with the national security contributor fran townsend. she was homeland security adviser to president bush. she is a member of the external advisory board to promote the department of homeland security. as well as the cia. it is ironic, fran, that the --
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these terrorists go after pakistani soldiers, young recruits, if you will, pakistanis didn't know anything about this u.s. navy s.e.a.l. mission on the bin laden compound. >> that's right. you know, it is -- this is not a new target for the pakistani taliban. they targeted intelligence offices and targeted military office -- stations. so it is not a new target. it is just a new excuse for them. it really is -- extraordinary to me that at this time given this sort of pressure internal to pakistan they actually did give access to bin laden's three wives. that's a very controversial -- to the u.s. that's a very controversial thing. >> they didn't do at this time way the u.s. would have liked. they made them sit there together instead of individual interviews and -- it was sort of seen as a waste. they were hostile in this first round of questioning. >> that's right. pakistani service was in the room which is also not something we would have preferred. but that they did it at all in -- in given the pressure there under internally, is at
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least a step in the right direction. >> incredibly tense time, dangerous time for pakistan right now. i'm very worried about what's going on. let's never forget there is about 100 nuclear warheads in that country as well. >> that's exactly right. so we have to be -- we have to press them very hard. pakistan wants to cooperate, i think, with the united states. but has to do so mindful of their own domestic political situation. >> were you surprised they found pornography in bin laden's compound. >> not at all. you know, i think one of the prior interviews said you find this in raids, al qaeda raids in afghanistan. it is not unusual. they profess to have this jihad -- name of religion. they are not -- they are frauds. they are not true muslims. this is another example of the -- hypocrites, the frauds, that they really are. including bin laden. >> you will remember it because you were there in the white house at the department of homeland security. mohammed aatta and other hijackers were going to strip
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clubs even professing they were devout muslim. >> that's right. this is not -- not surprised because of that whole history of this sort of conduct we have seen of al qaeda members. >> you are here in our situation room right now. earlier in the day, you were at the white house situation room. tell us what the president wanted to do there, why he invited you into his situation room. >> sure. well, this is the 50th anniversary. situation room established in 1961 under president kennedy. and the president was dedicating the large conference room. one we have seen in all the pictures while watched the bin laden raid. the john f. kennedy conference room and caroline kennedy, son jack were there. president made some remarks. you have to mention, wolf, i tweeted that the president said it is not quite as breathless in his situation room as it is in -- wolf blitzer's. >> mentioned i have a situation room. he has a situation room. we are not celebrating our 50th anniversary but will be in august celebrating our sixth anniversary of our situation room. i read your tweet.
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i will read it. i-want our viewers to follow you at fran townsend. president obama, thankfully this situation room is not at breathless as wolf blitzer's situation room. yea, wolf got a mention. invited me to come over to the situation room. >> it was only the former homeland security adviser and national security adviser. it was quite a group. >> none of them promoted the situation room like i promoted the situation room. >> that's right. >> you will have to have a cake. he had a cake at his anniversary. >> we sent him our situation room cake to the white house as well. it would be the right thing to do. >> it would. >> thank you. we are also learning today that there's video of the raid captured by navy s.e.a.l.s that wore helmet cams. we are going back to the pentagon for details of what the video shows. growing concern about the safety of men that took out bin laden. there is fear their families are
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today it is as simple as a tweet. not long ago announcing a run for the white house was major event. president obama declared himself a candidate with a formal speech at the old illinois state house in springfield back in 2007. >> our government will play a crucial role in bringing about the changes we need. more money and programs alone will not get us to where we need to go. each of us in our own lives will have to accept responsibility. instill an ethic of achievement in our children, for adapting to a more competitive economy. for strengthening our communities and sharing some measure of sacrifice.
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let us begin. let us begin this hard work together. let us transform this nation. >> let's bring in our senior political analyst gloria borger. that was a very formal traditional announcement that he is running for president. newt gingrich, on the other hand, this week sends out a tweet, 140 characters or less. >> yeah. says i'm announcing for president. then you click on it and it -- you go to a canned webcast about newt gingrich why he wants to be president. it is interesting, wolf. every election cycle, presidential candidates seem to believe they are finding a new way to connect with those young voters, those important voters. used to be they went on the sunday talk shows and they -- still do that. i think joe biden did that. or they go on late night television. or morning television. as ron paul actually did. but now everybody seems to think, okay, suddenly we have to do it through twitter and do it
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through facebook. tim pawlenty announced his exploratory committee with this -- be sure to visit my facebook page today at 3:00 p.m. for a special message. exclusive to facebook. you know, there really is a question here which i ask -- does this diminish the people who are really seeking the presidency by kind of -- kind of saying, okay, just -- i'm going to tweet the fact that i'm running for president. >> you write a cole bum this at cnn.com which you say it is like putting the cart before the horse. >> it is. it is. particularly now in this republican field when you look at all of the polling we have done on all these candidates, the people, the republican voters actually say you know, i don't really know much about these people. so how about connecting with the voters first and letting them know why you want to run for president, letting them know exactly who you are. and then tweet to your heart's delight. >> i tweet. i don't know about you but i
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tweet -- but i don't -- i don't tweet i'm announcing a run for the white house. >> right. you tweet tune in to "situation room." >> what was that last line you wrote there was a very, very -- clever last line? >> thank you, wolf. i was pointing out gettysburg was actually short. 272 words. as i said, it was short. but no tweet. >> no tweet. 140 characters or less. how does this work for politics? >> it really works well for them. that's why people have the realize -- when have you so-called spontaneous tweets out there, wolf, they are half the time not spontaneous. there's some staffer tweeting on behalf of any politician, any president, you know, whatever it is. so they are not spontaneous. they have a message to get out. sarah palin, i would have to give her credit, for perfecting the art of the tweet. you get it out there in 1 40 characters. you don't have reporters asking you pesky questions. you make your point and move on to something else. understand the politicians are
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using this media as a way to get it out there without the followup. >> certainly is a whole new world out there. thanks very much. new information about the fate of the libyan leader moammar gadhafi after a strike on his compound in tripoli. also, please stand by for part two of my interview with the newly minted republican presidential candidate ron paul, an unusual position on the raid that resulted in the killing of bin laden. stay with us. is unique... pure... and also delicious. like nature valley. granola bars made with crunchy oats and pure honey. nature valley -- 100% natural. 100% delicious. while i took refuge from the pollen that made me sneeze. but with 24-hour zyrtec®, i get prescription strength relief from my worst allergy symptoms. so lily and i are back on the road again. with zyrtec® i can love the air®. so delicious.
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libyan officials say moammar gadhafi was not harmed in an air strike at his compound yesterday. mary snow's monitoring that from the other top stories in the
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situation room right now. what do we know about this, mary? >> libyan television broadcast an audio message from moammar gadhafi a short time ago. gadhafi expressed gratitude to people around the world who are concerned about his safety and asserted that nato air strikes will not drive him from office. libyan officials say that rockets that struck gadhafi's compound in tripoli killed at least three people but a spokesman said gadhafi is in good health and high spirits. getting word after gruesome murder in spain's canary islands. authorities are confirming a knife-wielding man attacked and behead ad woman in a supermarket and then ran away carrying her head. security guards caught and held the man until police arrived. the victim was apparently a stranger. the man is being identified as bull gain yard and the woman was a british national. aides to georgia governor nathan diehl barred a local reporter and camera crew from the signing of a controversial immigration law today.
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sheen who abruptly dismissed from the show earlier this year was earning a reported $2 million per episode. >> $2 million. not bad. $2 million an episode. thanks very much. helmet camera videos of the raid on bin laden's compound. what exactly do they show? we are getting new information from our sources. the navy s.e.a.l.s that killed bin laden, are their lives in any danger? details of growing concern about their safety. even the safety of their families. plus, he just announced his third presidential campaign and one of his first stops right here in the situation room. my interview with ron paul. that's coming up. >> principle of nonintervention, minding our own business, don't get involved in these civil wars, that's what george bush won on in the year 2000. how quickly we forget. &t is at , building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity,
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he ran a surprisingly strong campaign in 2008. new supporters of ron paul are hoping 2012 will be his year. 75-year-old congressman from texas announced today that he is making another run for the white house. just as they were four years ago, some of his views put him at odds even with his own party. even critical of the mission that took out bin laden. joining us now from new hampshire, republican presidential candidate congressman ron paul of texas. congressman, thanks very much for coming in. congratulations. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> let's get threw the substantive issues our viewers are interested. osama bin laden, did president obama do the right thing in ordering his death? >> oh, you know, i actually endorsed that when i voted for this authority in 2001 to go over and deal with the people that, you know, orchestrated
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9/11. i actually am on record for that. you know, overall, nobody can defend and say well, you know, it is terrible he's dead. so -- i think that the process is what i'm so annoyed about. the fact that we didn't do the job in 2001 and i really think we had an opportunity. we distracted and did not keep the eye on the ball. we went into iraq and fought a useless unnecessary war, compounding our problem. then we went in the nation building and finally we are getting caught up with it. i think the process could have been much improved. and i keep thinking about, you know, that -- in the past, we have dealt with sovereign nations a little bit differently when we -- when we caught mohammed, sheikh mohammed. it was done with the cooperation of the pakistanis. we stirred up a bit of a hornet's nest there. in the past they delivered to us many of these criminals. .
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we brought them here and executed some of them. they should make an effort. >> wait. let me interrupt you for a second, congressman. the white house, the pentagon, they make the point that bin laden even though he wasn't armed he was resist when those navy s.e.a.l.s killed him. >> yeah. you know, that's where the problem comes. at the beginning, you know, there was the great resistance and fire fight. then you can say little. but -- i yes, that is the case. but i -- i keep thinking about how we -- we got hold of the real ringleader in that. and that was sheikh mohammed. and -- >> sheikh mohammed. >> yeah. he was the gash he was the real ringleader. we have him in prison. we have gotten information from him. you know, why should it be automatic that we shouldn't even talk to people? think of what happened after world war ii? i remember the trials. we got the bad guys that brought on the holocaust and put them on trial. and they were executed.
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and -- we know they are dead. but -- there's going to be -- i think they set the stage for the conspiracy people to go forever. you know, when was he killed? what happened? and -- the story keeps changing. i don't think there's -- anything extremely wrong with suggesting that there could have been another way of doing this and maybe would have settled a little bit better. my big beef is really the wasted ten years, 5,000 american lives, a trillion dollars, tens of thousands of american casualties and hundreds of thousands of civilians deaths and created a lot of enemies. that's what the taliban is about. they are organized and motivated by the fact that we are occupying their land. if we don't understand that, we just keep, you know, in pakistan, we -- we both are -- want to be their allies and help them, between send them money. at the same time we are bombing them. even today, a bomb went off from a drone and killing civilians over there. it doesn't always just kill
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somebody that we determine -- >> let me ask you this, congressman. if you are president of the united states and your military or leadership come to you and say mr. president, we know where anwar awalaki is located, or we know where zawahiri is. they say we can get these guys, kill them. what would you say? >> well, i would say where and when and how. if he is them n yemen i don't think we should violate the sovereignty of yemen. we should deal with it and come up with it. i mean, to talk about an american citizen and establish a precedent where we -- just say, well, he is an american citizen so we will assassinate him. that's so dangerous as far as i'm concerned. there are three americans on the list and -- now that's policy now. but -- we need to wake up to this. you don't casually drift that because we know that there is a very, very bad guy out there. you know, if we work with the
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rule of law, americansy sent supposed to at least have a little bit of his day in court. i realize they are bad. i don't care about protecting the bad people. i care about protecting american citizens so that they are never treated this way in court. we are drifting in that way when you think about the enforce many of some of our drug laws, how our -- police barge in houses and shoot people, that were totally innocent. i don't like that idea. i think that we should protect the rule of law because we want to protect all americans. not because we have sympathy for the very bad people. >> if you were president, what would do you about moammar gadhafi and libya? >> i would let them fight it out themselves. why should we go in there and protect the oil interests? we are not in syria. we are in iraq because there's oil. there's interest there. yeah, we are over in libya. no. that's a -- that's an internal fight. it is a civil strife going on. now we -- looks like we will be helping the rebels and there may
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be al qaeda there. pretty good hands al qaeda involved. i think principle of nonintervention, minding our own business, no entangling lives, don't get involved in civil wars. that's what george bush won on in 2000. how quickly we forget. the american people like the message. when they are riled up and can have a target, they get careless on how things are done because, you know, we can get up so -- built up so -- so much emotion. no, we shouldn't be over there. we -- this is one of the reasons why this country is bankrupt. we spend over a trillion a year maintaining our empire. we are -- too many places. i just think -- you know, obama was elected with the idea that he would, you know, end some of these wars and he is expanding these wars. i dread the fact what will come out of pakistan now. we are going to -- work it to the day there will be a justification for us to invade
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and occupy pakistan because they will say you know, today, there's breakdown and more people killed and we will have to go in and they will say well, it is in our best interest. it is national security interest. we have to go in and i -- i don't like that. we don't need to be occupy another country. we institute start taking care of our own business at home. >> escalated u.s. involvement, the president in afghanistan. also, he's dramatically curtailing it in iraq, down to -- less than 50,000 troops right now. my interview with ron paul. he is now officially in the republican race for the white house. this just coming in to our situation room from the white house. statement from the press secretary on the meeting that the president's national security adviser, tom donlan had with mahmoud gibril. the statement praises the meeting. the interesting phrase, though, during the meeting -- i will read it specifically, mr. donelan stated the united states views the tmc that --
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transitional national council, opposition, as a legitimate and credible -- of the libyan people. that stops short of formally recognizing the opposition as the legitimate government of libya. that's what -- mr. gibril told us he wanted to get from the obama administration, formal recognition of the opposition as france, italy, qatar and other countries have done. he says jordan is about to do it as well. didn't get that but apparently got enough that they issued this statement saying it was a good meeting. we will see what follows from it as well. also, just revealed -- helmet cam video of the raid on bin laden. getting new information from our sources. we will share it with you. plus, all the leaks about the raid. there is concern they may be putting lives of navy s.e.a.l.s and their families at risk. >> executive branch, legislative branch, friends, relatives and acquaintances need to shut the [ bleep ] up. all that overnight shipping.
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we learned there is, in fact, video of the raid on bin laden's compound. u.s. military official tells cnn members of the navy s.e.a.l. team wore cameras monitored on their helmets. let's bring back our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence who is work thing story for us. what are you picking up there, chris? >> we know from the u.s. military source that the video is hazy, it was very dark. but just think about it. this video means there is actual footage from multiple angles of the moment that osama bin laden was killed. take a look at this army training video and the view from a helmet cam.
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now imagine it is pitch black in a confined space. have you some idea what the navy s.e.a.l.s cam was recording. s that animation of the assault boy on bin laden's compound show, the s.e.a.l.s are in constant motion. the digital video fast and violent. the s.e.a.l.s are moving their heads constantly. so any glimpses of bin laden would be quick. the source said it is not like the s.e.a.l.s would be staring at any one thing for long. it is likely no one in the compound even knew they were being recorded. >> if the housing wasn't there, you wouldn't even see that camera. it would look like a pin dot on a piece of paper. >> reporter: chris was a navy s.e.a.l. for ten years. he's worn a version of a helmet cam and says it started out as a training tool. >> feedback we got, could give to each other was immensely valuable. we said we are going to look at putting these on real situations
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and an operation like this being as -- huge as it is, certainly warrants these types of systems to be -- on the operator's bodies. >> whether the public will ever see actual video from helmets like this is up in the air. especially considering the need to protect how the s.e.a.l.s operate and their identities. >> when i met with the team last thursday, they expressed a concern about that. and particularly with respect to their families. >> robert gates says that there are efforts under way even now to increase that layer of security around both the s.e.a.l.s' identities and their families. as for the footage, the -- defense on pill -- military officials says what it does is it helps the s.e.a.l.s remember what it was like and what they saw in the heat of the moment and right now the military is currently remember viewing some of this footage as part of the post mission analysis. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon for us. thanks very much. let's dig deeper on this
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subject. concern that chris noted that all these new raid details that keep leaking out and could compromise the security of the men that carried out the mission, brian todd is here with us. part of the story for us. what else are you learn being this? >> would have the chief of naval operations says he's absolutely confident that the s.e.a.l.s who took part in the bin laden raid and their families will be protected. the nation's top defense official has put the word out there that all the information leaked out on the raid has raised serious security concerns. members of the navy s.e.a.l. team that killed osama bin laden have told their boss that they are worried about their own security and that of their families. defense secretary robert gates says that the s.e.a.l.s told him that in recent days and says the pentagon is looking at ways to step up security for the team and he's frustrated at leaks about the raid. >> frankly, a week ago sunday in the situation room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin laden.
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that all fell apart on monday. the next day. >> reporter: we learned about the s.e.a.l.s s' secret stealth helicopters, head cameras and about an intelligence safe house nearby. >> the executive branch, legislative branch, friends, relatives, acquaintances, they need to shut the [ bleep ] up. >> reporter: former u.s. special forces officer ken robinson says future s.e.a.l.s' operations could be compromised by those details. but security at home is also a big worry. >> has there been information put out in the public that would compromise the security of the s.e.a.l.s now, identities, et cetera? >> i don't think so but i think what the concern is that there very well could be as people con to dig. where the achilles' heel lies is with friends, relatives, acquaintances, someone that's proud of them and who may know and knows they are back and that gets into a public domain where it gets picked up by a report and then gets broadcast. >> reporter: the s.e.a.l.s' identities are classified but
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the base where that team is stationed is known. s.e.a.l. teams widely reported to operate out of this facility near virginia beach. we couldn't get on base. the unit is covered with a degree of seek yes, siry the military does not acknowledge it exists and that code goes beyond operational security at the banks. the s.e.a.l.s' community protects them, too. we went to where the s.e.a.l.s are known to frequent. several restaurant and bar owners would not talk to us and didn't want us filming their establishments. the s.e.a.l.s appreciate their discretion and they live by it themselves. one baroner told us off camera that if the s.e.a.l.s are at his establishment and a fight breaks out the s.e.a.l.s slip out. wolf? >> there is a strategic motivation that some speculated about release something of this information. >> that's right. robert gates, you know, could have released that or could have made the comment for strategic reasons. ken rob skins other observers say this could be gates' way of telling everyone in the
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administration that your leaking of the information of the raid has gotten out of hand and has to stop. robinson points out as you know, wolf, gates is one of the most sophisticated defense secretaries we had, very savvy. this could be a way of slapping people down, putting them on the spot in the public by raising specter of the s.e.a.l.s' security. >> former cia director himself. he knows this business. thanks very much. former president, george w. bush, breaking his silence about the death of bin laden. abc news reporting that mr. bush talked about it during a private speech in las vegas. calling it a great victory in the war on terror. he says that he was not overjoyed at the news of the killing emphasizing it was, quote, not out of hatred but to exact judgment. the former president also revealed where he was when he heard the news saying -- i'm quoting -- i was eating souflee at a restaurant with laura and two buddies. i excused myself and went home to take the call. obama simply said osama bin laden is dead.
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louisiana governor bobby jindal says the louisiana river commission has given the u.s. army corps of engineers the authority to operate the spillway, the morganza spillway, within the next 24 hours, and the governor says it's extremely likely the flood gates will be open tomorrow night or sunday morning. i know's jeanne meserve takes us behind the scenes for a closer look at how these tough decisions are made. jeanne? >> reporter: wolf, the historic flooding on the mississippi isn't just being fought on the river bags? it's being fought here in this army corps of engineers
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operation center. one key part of the battle, a daily teleconference in this situation room. >> when we start to get down to vicksburg and natchez and baton rouge, you'll see that we again go up against the record crests. >> reporter: this is a war room. the enemy is the water. the weapons are reservoirs and levees and floodways. armed with maps and graphs and weather forecasts, the army corps of engineers is plotting its strategy via teleconference. >> we have three locks currently closed. >> reporter: what this allows all of us in the u.s. army corps of engineers to do is to gain good situational awareness over what is happening with the system currently and in the near future. >> reporter: and the system is huge. >> it's the third largest watershed on the earth. and that is true. it drains 34 states and has many, many tributaries that feed
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into it. >> reporter: the floodwaters are relentlessly pushing southward into cities and cropland. for you, does an emergency get any bigger than this? >> this is the biggest one we've had to deal with since 2005. so there's no question about it. >> reporter: that was katrina, when levees breached and cities drowned. $14.7 billion have been spent rebuilding the levee system, but the work isn't done yet, and a surge of muddy mississippi water is on its way. >> reporter: this is a huge flood fight, an historic flood fight. >> reporter: numbers are being crunched 24/7 at this operation center to calculate the best course of action. open a flood gate, evacuate a town? stop navigation? general temple says if he wins this war against the water, it will be by the thinnest of margins, by inches. and everyone here is well aware that hurricane season is right around the corner. >> well, you can have quite a barrel of monkeys here at the
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end of may, beginning of june, if something like that happens. >> reporter: this command center is 1,000 miles away from the flooding, but it allows the army corps to interact with all the other agencies also involved in this life and death battle on the mississippi. wolf? back to you. >> thank you. jeanne meserve reporting. mary snow is monitoring some of the other top stories in "the situation room." what else is going on, mary? >> wolf, retired justice john paul stevens says the killing of osama bin laden was legally justified. during remarks at a northwestern university speech last night, stevens said he was pleased president obama ordered the raid and called it, quote, entirely appropriate. that's according to two people who were there. and new york city has a new way to remind drivers to slow down. new digital warning signs equipped with radar speed monitors will flash an image of a skeleton next to the words "slow down" when a driver approaches a crosswalk at more than 30 miles per hour. and wolf, i wanted to wish you
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person moving through a crowd. >> these dogs can sense explosives at a greater range for as long as 15 minutes and track down where that scent is coming from. >> reporter: they're joining l.a.x., just as security is being heightened because of the killing of osama bin laden. >> we've always known, we've always said that we are one of the top four targets in the united states. >> reporter: but authorities say adding the dogs was purred by another event, the failed 2009 christmas day terrorist attack, when a man with explosives hidden in his underwear boarded an international flight headed for the u.s. they realized that dogs trained to check out luggage and cargo were not being trained to detect concealed explosives on people. >> we do not have a layer of security in place to detect organic or nonmetallic explosive devices on persons prior to the tsa screening checkpoints.
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>> reporter: the question now, will america's airports begin doing what some other countries have already done, take the next step and begin using dogs at checkpoints to screen individual passengers. some say that would be an invasion of privacy with cultural implications. >> well, it's important to keep america safe, but we should be aware that there's sensitivity among some muslims that dogs are considered dirty, particularly the saliva. >> reporter: so for now, people-sniffing dogs will remain noses in the crowd, they won't be getting too personal. l.a. leaders say while this is a first of its kind program for a u.s. airport, they think we'll soon see these dogs used in other airports. and similarly trained dogs have already been used by amtrak and u.s. capitol police. wolf? >> got to love all those dogs. god bless the dogs. they're doing a lot of good work, no wonder they're man and