>> from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with the explosion in manhattan on saturday night. taken intoi was custody after being wounded in a gunfight. he is suspected to of orchestrated the bombings in new york and new jersey over the weekend. he's a naturalized citizen or interior ei. inwas discovered captured new jersey. you got pulled into this on saturday after the explosion in

chelsea happened. guest: we have this explosion happened in a dumpster. they found a second pressure cooker. in the first few hours they were not linking it to what happened on the jersey shore. they had a pipe bomb go off. minor. looked then with the bombing in chelsea people asked if they were connected. they send to connect the two and learn more troubling things that added confusion. >> what we know? 4 they are more sophisticated than people thought. which is somewhat worrying. perhaps he had some help on of compoundthe kind

used. not just as simple as looking on the internet and doing it. the other pipe bomb's are more typical of what you may find with black powder type bombs. bomb foundwas a pipe near the train station. we believe they were more typical of type bombs. the most of bombs, sophisticated of which in chelsea. >> did he have more inside of his home? marc: we don't know yet. >> the five people who were questioned not arrested, family members? marc: as they get more concerned about the sophistication of the devices and the fact that he is still out there, they look at surveillance video and focus in on him. they start looking at addresses in new jersey. leave and decide to act.

they pulled the car over and there are five people. two of them are relatives. they are taken in for questioning and released. what their connection is we don't know. it shows you the urgency trying to find this guy. >> as they are putting the pieces of the puzzle together he is found in linden. marc: most new yorkers woke up to this alert saying wanted, this guy. the whole city woke up to it including police officers who were distributed this picture. the picture goes out and 10:30 this morning there is a bar owner going back to work. he is a little suspicious. he calls 911. an officer response. he tried to wake the guy up and he seems scared.

the guy pulls a gun and shoots a police officer. it hits his best. the guy tries to get away. he is shooting wildly in the street. he is shot multiple times and that is where we ended this morningmorning with him going te hospital. >> the times is doing some reporting on what ahmad rahami was doing in the months and years before this happened. before he is suspected of what he is accused of. tell me more about this. the first american fried chicken, his father opened that restaurant. family lives the in the apartment above that. the sons worked behind the counter. it was also a nuisance according

to some neighbors because it was operating 24 hours a day and sometimes there be a rowdy crowd. the neighbors filed a complaint in the city passed an ordinance to have it shut down after 10:00 p.m.. there were some scuffles with the police. betweens some bad blood the neighbors and people there. we are early understanding him and his family and background. >> there was a lawsuit. >> the family sued the discredited against. clear.ot totally for investigators the important thing they are looking at how the trips he may have taken to afghanistan. 2014 severaland trips. , we are not sure what that means but for investigators

trying to decide if there is a direction from overseas or wider influence, these may be critical. >> we don't know how many trips. do we know how long each of the trips was for? marc: we would think somebody knows that. >> he was where in afghanistan? we were told several times he went back to afghanistan but we are not sure exactly when and for how long. you orhbors have told your colleagues at least at this point that he changed after these trips. marc: some described him as more radicalized. he was into fast cars and dressed in western close. >> the suspicion on part of polices that he left in seaside park on saturday morning.

the first devised. -- device. device was ast pipe bomb played the race was delayed. no one was injured. the police are still scouring to see what he drove. all that is part of the investigation. he ends up in new york because he is caught on surveillance tape. he seen planting the devices. some point after the explosions that night he is gone. after those explosions until the time in linden's and then they are trying to piece together to see if he had any help. as far as we know he is on surveillance video and then he shows up this morning outside of that store.

>> he ends up in the vestibule. marc: sleeping in the rain. >> how many shots did he fire? marc: indiscriminate fire. there was a handgun he had. >> two officers were hurt. marc: the officer who approached him first was shot the abdomen. another suffered a wound at some point. both are not life-threatening. >> he was hit where? marc: three times. it looks like the shoulder, the back and the leg. we are still getting the details of that. >> isis did claim responsibility for the incident in minnesota, the stabbings over the weekend but not as far as this goes. marc: that is why the politicians saying they did not think there was a link because

they are quick to claim credit and they weren't. there is no handbook for what they have to do, so there was no claim that we are aware of a credit. what that means, i'm not sure. >> thank you, very much. ♪

charlie: mr. president, thank you for this opportunity to talk to you as you arrive for the

united nations general assembly. i want to talk about egypt, how you see your country, what you see are the tensions between human rights and national security, and economic development. i want to talk about how egypt sees its neighbors, how it sees other powers around the world, and how they see you, and questions they raise about human rights and your economy. let me begin with you and egypt. tell me what your vision is and what you think you can accomplish. president el-sisi: let me first thanking you and to present all the greetings to the american public. and all the greetings to the flow from all over

from canada, from other states, from egypt to come here and join with us on this activity. i see that egypt a stable pace.t challenges lot of chang in all fields. stability,king about security and human rights. i want to say that egypt has 90 million people. 90 million people need to live in peace and security. while we are doing this, we are also committed to a state of law, to the rule of law and this what we are trying to down route.

that the law should dominate. perhaps there are some violations but we are very committed to the rule of law. to treat all issues within the legal framework. there is some kind of balance between security and stability in the turbulent region with a lot of serious challenges. here in thetwo days states, you have seen the negative impact terrorist action can have on stability. charlie: i is him you're talking about the explosions in new york. president el-sisi: yes. charlie: they have not identified where they may have come from but i understand your point. president el-sisi: regardless of who has committed it, i'm talking about the reaction and

the bad impact that it has on the tensions. it puts on the security forces who are responsible for the security and any other place in the world. >> what is the threat today of terrorism in egypt in the sinai? terrorism issisi: the most dangerous threat not only facing egypt but the regent -- the region and the whole world. previously i called for a global strategy and i said before it is not a security strategy, but it is a comprehensive one with a lot of components including ,ecurity economy culture intellectual signs and bringing reformation so that we will be able to stand firm in

front of terrorism. we have substantially improved compared to what we have before. now the terrorist attacks are very limited to one or 2% of the area. we have improved a lot. many good things. charlie: we have watched in egypt president mubarak leave government. overthrown.rsi ifre are those who worry egypt doesn't change you might revolutionme kind of that came about with the arab spring. do you worry about that? i want to sayisi:

to you that egypt, the egyptian people on the 21st of january 2011 wanted a change in on the 30th of june 2013 corrected there will. , andhere is a constitution now there is an egyptian president who cannot stay in longer than his term. be a newhere has to presidential election for either a new president or according to the will leave the egyptians, this is fundamental change that has taken place. charlie: what do you think you can accomplish? what is the vision of your egypt? president el-sisi: this is a very important question. egyptians have a lot of hopes. i have a lot of hopes as well.

restores itsgypt rightful place. egypt is a big country, in a turbulent region. i hope egypt will enjoy all freedom, prosperity, development for the egyptian people. charlie: you are saying some people have hijacked islam, and used it to -- for their own political agendas. yes? president el-sisi: definitely. absolutely. this has happened over many years and it is being used, it is taking place now. a certain religious context is being formulated. and then it is introduced to

recruit followers in order to bring it to reality. this is done through killings and murders. at the end of the day you have thisoyed and eventually spreading withis , who who embrace the idea embrace the ideology. this is the problem we face in our region and beyond in afghanistan and and syria, and libya. as you know in the united states some people including the president does not use the term radical islam extremism. you seem to be comfortable with that. he believed that is where it is coming from.

president el-sisi: we are the oldest country in the region. we know very well about our religion. we know very well about the genuine islam that upholds values and principles, that holds for tolerance and moderation. that prevents people from killing and terrorizing others. what do you recommend to the west, your arab nation -- neighbors to stop isis? state, whatever -- what is necessary to win this battle against terrorism?

the problem-sisi: extremism,e idea of the whole ideology is not confined to a certain terrorist group. the ideology we have to face and confront, this is important. there are certain stances that the middle east is undergoing. and this has an impact and influence on how the western united states deals with the region. need toean is that we stand hand-in-hand to confront this dangerous phenomenon. charlie: you are suggesting the coalition united states is part of should do more than it is

doing. do you fall president obama for not doing enough? president el-sisi: i am not blaming anybody. i am presenting my viewpoint. join thet we need to effort and strong will on all of our parts. allocate all of those sources to confront effectively terrorism. element.the decisive if egypt is not able to overcome its economic problems, and to be able to fight off the pressures the forces of evil, this means this will become a threat to the region, to europe and perhaps to

the world. charlie: and to your administration. president el-sisi: stability is a very important thing. you are talking about the security and life of 91 million people. this is not an easy thing. country.a big charlie: speak about your economy for a minute. tour is down partly because of terrorism. president el-sisi: yes, yes that is true. surprisedly this has -- revenue that contributed to the economy. these are manifests of what terrorists do to destabilize countries. sources ofto hit revenue so that they can weaken the egyptian economy and

eventually have a negative impact on the egyptians and lead to instability. charlie: notwithstanding, american objections to human rights policies which they have expressed to you, and your foreign minister has responded, the united states gives you military aid more than $1 billion. president el-sisi: yes, definitely. i want you to visualize something here. egypt has been in a ferocious campaign against terrorism for three years now in providing security over long borders with libya that extends 1000 kilometers and another long borders on the south. needss very big and it

enormous resources. where we are in the is weak security wise. balances to strike this in this region with suitable military capabilities. charlie: after some egyptians were killed you attacked in libya. where is egypt prepared to put its troops in the fight against terrorism? libya or syria? yemen? president el-sisi: egypt is bring aboutain to security in our country first. egypt is doing all of its powers to have an economic rebalance.

contributing with the international coalition with what it can provide. charlie: how significant is the imf? president el-sisi: the significance is that it is going to give more credibility to the economic past -- path we have taken. charlie: you have 50% unemployment among young people. correct? president el-sisi: i want to say in egypt the population annually. 2.5% this means 2.6 million people every year. more than 600,000 young people are introduced into the labor market every year. you need to provide them a lot of job opportunities. charlie: but you're are not able to do it so far. president el-sisi: so far i have not been able to do it.

charlie: how much time do you have? to overcome-sisi: unemployment completely and effectively, this will take a long time. charlie: to restore growth to the economy of egypt, with all of its currency problems, it's revenue issues. president el-sisi: actually we are very keen on resolving this problem within the rest of this year. egyptlly the currency in and its availability in the coming 3-4 months until the end of 2016. charlie: mr. president, characterized the relationships with united states notwithstanding the military aid you perceive and whatever , whichc aid you receive

is less than the military aid. what is the relationship between egypt and the knotted states? -- and the united states. because you are not seeing the prim the president. let me firstsisi: characterize the relationship. this is a stable strategic relationship. it has been a test to the endurance and resilience of this relationship. the concerns of the u.s. administration regarding the region. this is a manifestation of the strong core of this relationship in egypt and the united states. it is not only defined by the

aid. if the whole relationship revolves around the size of the and characterizes the nature of the relationship, this would not be a good thing. we have had strong relationships , strategic for more than three decades that we have been commit -- omitted two. -- committed to. thelie: many are saying nicest have to reconsider its relationship with egypt if there is not a dramatic improvement in your human rights record. that journalists are in jail. a crackdown on

human rights and it is offensive to the united states government because it goes to the heart of american values and they believe in some cases you are doing it and using security and the threat of terrorism as an excuse to solidify your power. that it approaches authoritarianism. , this will be an over simple vocation. it does not reflect the reality in egypt. is presented not accurately as i just mentioned. the president will be able to

be one more day in his chair on the tenure because the constitution will not allow him. neither will the egyptian people. the other thing is that we are trying to strike a balance between stability and security. country cannot be violently shaken. there will be consequences on the country. in the meantime we are making sure we are committed to the rule of law. sayimportant thing want to about the media and journalism in egypt, follow the media in egypt. you will find the egyptian media

says whatever they like. there are no more tyrants in egypt. but, collinsville suggest there is -- they say two things. that you believe political a complete freedom of expression is suicide. that is what you believe. for egypt. does that reflect your mindset? that we have to crackdown to stop terrorism? end of human rights is violated that is essential. president el-sisi: i simply want to say you should not overlook one important thing. we have factions in the egyptian community that are not

certain actions like an opposing party. they are doing something else. we need sometimes on order to evolve. we have disagreeing forces living together and they have their own rules of the game. like here in the united states have oppositions. they can create together the political scene. factionthe green resorting to violence against the state in the egyptian people. charlie: but that is not because. those people who are advocates are not because of security threats.

an american citizen has been in jail with her husband for two years. she ran a nonprofit to help street perth -- street children. you know about that case. what evidence is there that she is in jail? she is not a threat to egypt security. she is not a terrorist. president el-sisi: we address any issue in egypt within the legal framework of the laws applicable in our country. if we want to uphold the rule of law, if we want to make our judiciary system stable and strong we have to all obey the legal framework of the laws applicable in our country. charlie: so even today there is a report in the news about

organizations that were being repressed to use a kind word because -- for no apparent reason and the natixis government complained about it. tell me what the u.s. government as the elected president of egypt that they want you to do about human rights, and are they satisfied with your answer when you tell for ouris necessary security against terrorism? or not? is this a point you disagree with them? opportunity to help us understand.

you are the elected president and you have the support of your people in the military. president el-sisi: i have to admit this is the point of disagreement with the united states. we are trying to address these concerns and explain the situation in egypt. egypt now we have a parliament in session. discuss a law that will regulate the work of the ngo's in egypt. in a way that will be respectable code that will regulate the work of the ngo's. this will be done by parliament. we are not against the ngo's. we are not against their role. ngo's working in egypt.

they are providing valuable services to the community. they are contributing to the development and the solving of many problems. organizeo regulate, to in a good way. charlie: you say you respect the rule of law and want to do this with the parliament. but it is causing -- it is damaging. it is damaging to the image of egypt. i see that it is misinterpreted to give a bad image of egypt. withinhe whole region is a turbulent context. i also believe friends understand and appreciate the circumstances of each other.

we are talking about a turbulent region, extremist factions, sectors they want to destabilize countries. we need to be sensitive when we deal with all of this while being committed to human rights. but at the end of the day we need a country that is stabilized. otherwise there will be many violations of human rights this country is not stable and we can see unfortunate manifests of this bike in syria, yemen. we don't want to reach this level because of the absence of security and stability. violations oft of human rights in these countries. charlie: in countries like syria is that what you are saying?

president el-sisi: yes. charlie: i want to come back to syria in a moment. do you agree you are saying it is necessary to restrain human rights, inlate human the interest of the security of egypt. president el-sisi: no. charlie: you are not acknowledging there are any violations on the part of your government, whether it is ngo's, journalists. people who are in gilles simon because of opinions they express. president el-sisi: absolutely not. in the past five years i have but in office for two years egypt was in a destabilized

state in the past five years. there were things that happen before i came to office. when they are referred to me and i can do it with presidential pardon within the legal framework i don't hesitate to do that. i have done this with journalists and the australian and the canadian journalist to resolve things that happen before i came into office. you restortant that assured and everyone who listens to me that we are committed to because ins eventually i'm a person who loves his people and i'm not ready to do them in justice or to violate rights. or be unfair to them.

like you americans. i love my fellow people in a committed to that freedom of rights. ♪

charlie: may i ask that if i present cases to you you would take a look at them. president el-sisi: definitely i

will. charlie: i will present the cases to you. you would as you said if you find there has been a human rights violation you will correct it. president el-sisi: it goes without saying i will do that. we uphold the principles of respecting people. of honoring their rights. these are principles we embrace and we will not hesitate to correct any violation according to the law and we will hold people accountable for that. charlie: because it is in your interest to do that. it is in my-sisi: interest in the interest of my country, and liberty, and justice. charlie: clearly you say there is a disagreement over these issues are you said that.

so you have not yet satisfied the government of the united states, your good friend who support you. yet. they still have disagreements. president el-sisi: let me tell you that the last meeting with himetary kerry, i gave figures of people who have been released. whether it was a criminal release or presidential release. i gave him ammunition. figuresim a list and just to tell the u.s. administration we are very keen on resolving this and i believe

he appreciated it. not a lot of media coverage is given to the efforts that we are doing to resolve these issues. charlie: i must say that was my impression, the secretary had expressed great concern, and he came out and he said there was possibilities of progress on that. i do understand that. if i look at that list and i come back to you, someone will take my call. i will be able to reach someone in egypt? where would you like the relationship between united go? whatd egypt to would you like to see happen between these countries?

what would you say to president obama if you were saying him? president el-sisi: i will tell him we are very committed to the strategic relationship with united states. it's important for the united states understand egypt has been through fundamental change. to tyranny.return there is no return to human rights. , no president in egypt can stay in office more than the tenure. this is history now. this is a fundamental change. ishe past this something that did not happen in egypt door other countries around egypt.

there is a parliament that has been related through elections. parliament has more than 85 egyptian women. about thealking structure of religious backgrounds. in egypt we say we are all fellow egyptians. we don't characterize people according to religious faith. now, hashas happened happened in a very short time.

charlie: you want to say to the united states we try to change, and there are positive things happening. you may not know, but we want to things areu that changing. i want to ask you about coptic christians. president el-sisi: we don't say -- we don't characterize people according to religious faith. they are all equal. this is very important for you to know. there is noticed the nation. fellow egyptians have the same rights in the same responsibilities. one of their rights as they shouldn't be defined by their religious faith.

very recently there is a law passed by the parliament to regulate the building of houses of worship for all religious faiths and egypt. laid overlaw that was 150 years but now it has been passed by the parliament for all fellow egyptians. now you can ask the question. charlie: i have friends who are christians and without signaling the mouth, -- signaling them out, they have had a tax against them they believe because of their religion. president el-sisi: used to be. by thethat happened

extremist current but i talked about. the extremist faction i talked about. these extremists factions and .lements destroyed churches after the 30th of june 2013. all of the damage churches are being restored and refurbished. at the end of this year they will be as good as new. charlie: let me ask you -- president el-sisi: let me add something here. you need to know that in order to reach a certain level of awareness within the community to instill the concept of equality, to instill the concept of not discriminating people because of religious

backgrounds, something important , but it is a process in the making that will become more and egypt and it will spread out to the other countries to respect the other, to accept the other. not to discriminate because of racial, religious or dogmatic backgrounds. charlie: let me ask about two initiatives on the foreign-policy front. you have developed a better relationship with israel, correct? president el-sisi: the relationship with israel is pretty good. there is continuous coordination. we have deployed egyptian troops to fight terrorism in an area that was spanned by the security annex to have forces and israelis understood that.

operations that we need aerial assets, and these aerial operations would be overlooking the borders with israel. they understand this. let me say to you that we are of past the phase insecurity. now we are in a phase where we need a new piecemeal. this region has digested the peace treaty that was signed more than 30 years ago. charlie: you also encouraged the prime minister to seek an agreement with the palestinians. was he responsive? president el-sisi: yes, absolutely. the israeli address prime minister. israeliddress the public opinion and i tell them

to be sure that peace can change the face of this region. if there is a palestinian state side-by-side the state of israel , there will be a fundamental change to the region where the region can enjoy security and stability. i'm speaking to the israeli public, the israeli citizens. i cannot just encourage the prime minister of the israeli government on something as sensitive as this. charlie: many israeli leaders are not looking at a two state solution. that is a concern to people who are friends of israel like the united states. president points the had said he wants to make.

do you worry about that? that the israeli leadership is no longer interested in a two state solution? believet el-sisi: i they believe in a two state solution but there is a difference between convincing people of the significance and importance of peas and imposing the solution on others. i believe that applying pressure will not be as effective or as successful as creating a belief, a conviction that if she's is achieved-- if peace is , and there is no threat to the israeli citizen this home marketing neustar and a new phase to the middle east who should not forget that the palestinian issue has been one of the underlying problems, one of the causes of terrorism in

the region. , iwe can find a way out believe this will be another asset we can use to ensure stability. that will be much better. charlie: turkey. i read there is improvement in communication with the turkish government. which is getting more involved in syria and they have before. is there an improvement? in your relationship? president el-sisi: until now, not yet. charlie: are you hopeful? president el-sisi: let me say something to you, the region where we live has enough conflicts and enough

intensities. andre giving time opportunity to the others in order to understand circumstances of the region and the circumstances taking place in egypt. ♪

mark: i am mark halperin. john: and i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to donald trump junior, we think we know what cap of candy he is not giving out halloween. ♪ john: on our show tonight, new details emerging about ahmad khan rahami, the man suspected of setting off homemade explosives in manhattan and new jersey, injuring 29 people. his father warned police that his son two years ago with an fbi assessme o