[000:00:00;00] hockey minsk dynamo even if with an unsteady gait, but still became one of the applicants for the gagarin cup however, for starters, the khl giant of ska and st. petersburg will have to express their claims to many in this pair of playoffs for a long time everything is clear and we will not dissuade them times and lies in his underestimation of rivals. let the bison try to get out of the most difficult situation in which they have driven themselves. and we have a sports frame in the continuation of the interview with dmitry baskov. today he is a senator, but he is involved in hockey processes kristina kamysh will just talk to him about the development of 19 players. this season, we played at least one match in the continental hockey league, if we could return these belarusians, who have dispersed throughout the continental hockey league at least. it would be a plus for the national team, there are different examples. yes

, there are examples when the top clubs. uh, it doesn't matter if the west or the eastern conference make contract offers. eh, our belarusian. the players of dynamo minsk and the players themselves are asked not to repeat them, because if we repeat them, then they will stay here accepting the player, including, yes, as it was in the situation with e, henkel or with the sheep and let them go so that they get new experience so that they play at a higher level work with others trainers. yes, in any case, this gives progress. a similar situation was with st. petersburg ska, when e falk's game with us for little money received a serious offer from a top club for serious money. why should we inflate our own budget when there is an opportunity to let go a player in a good club that will earn money and get good playing practice and the more our belarusian players will be in this league and not only in this one just in different clubs in different leagues. they will come to the national team with some new fresh ideas and the national team

will only become stronger from this, because the times when belarusian hockey players were legionnaires in the khl have passed, thank god then e, the concept of the base club of the national team was, of course, relevant. yes, now that there is an opportunity to let go belarusians and let them conquer new heights. let them play in the top clubs , earn money, come here , return to their homeland, buy real estate here, leave money in the country and for everyone. this is a big plus, there are situations when a good, talented, promising belarusian guy, just for some reason, e did not fit at the moment. uh , maybe under the distribution of the function of the coaching staff, maybe for some other reason , and uh, this is the story of vanya drozdov who showed himself perfectly, uh, their dynamo and returning to the playoffs of the extraliy, which he didn’t find somewhere, maybe some kind of communication with the head coach, or for some reason, maybe not quite e

showed himself well and he goes to look for his happiness in other clubs and look it's great. an example when a guy achieves success to date in the top khl clubs for a whole year now, we live now without international practice, playing only with russia and kazakhstan in various tournaments. isn't this story dangerous for the entire belarusian hockey russia is, uh, good a suitable opponent for the competitive practice of grand world hockey, so i think that if this suspension had not happened, then we would not have so many e games, and even dreaming of them would be difficult for such a large number of games at all levels not only of the national team, but also at the level of all national teams and to date already. uh, this all goes to the level of children's teams, that is, the ice hockey federation, uh, has done a great job. he is still those international officials who are called

in their places to work for the benefit of the development of the sport are doing absolutely nonsense our sports officials are looking for an opportunity. to give e their national teams to their children, now everyone is thinking how belarus and russia will return to the olympic games, the decision has not yet been made, that according to the international ice hockey federation, if some contact our ice hockey federation, uh, is working on different situations, we cannot say that we are there we ignore. uh, the understanding that we have no opportunity to participate uh in the world championships. this is especially related. e s our youth. that is, if adult players are sufficiently provided today, yes, with full-fledged contracts, full-fledged training matches. here are the young players. in this regard , they lost very significantly, they miss their e, by age something of the world, for which, in fact , they are preparing for the children's and youth school. at the institute of national teams. yes

, the regular world championships give a cycle, firstly, a good motivation for growth. secondly, ah hmm . here is such a kind of talent factory that nhl scouts come to are watching. and if you remember the recent cup of the future tournament, then our belarusians are still in demand, let's say , about 20 scouts came to a simple tournament in which our youth team won first place, so communication. there is communication, it is difficult to predict how the international situation in hockey will behave in the near future. we continue to, uh, prepare our children. we continue to find a good competitive base for them and hope that this double standard policy in sports will someday will pass and our children will definitely find themselves where they should be playing with world migrants shows our belarusian level. okay, you were born a dynamo collar in the mhl and it seems to me that everyone came, and

the beaver. this is a good stepping stone for the progress of our belarusian hockey players today. the most talented guys in this age category, suitable for this league, have been collected. here they regularly get practice in the continental hockey league, uh, many of them yes, on the sidelines they began to say that the dynamo minsk hockey club would never win the gagarin cup until the dynamo collar won the kharlamov ball, there is definitely a grain of logical truth in this, because really, the more our mkhlov young guys get experience with this, the more. they will wipe themselves, i'm not afraid of this word meat grinder. yes, i myself once played in the junior league of north america, where you really go through a big meat grinder. you get a lot of experience. yes, you stuff bumps, and then you're already here practically ready to move to a new level, therefore, the more our belarusians get such competitive practice of such experience. the more powerful, they will be

ready to debut and already become leaders. we wish there was a wonderful advertisement. and our brand dynamo collar. i think next year there will be more choices. uh, there will be more choice of players, including, as you rightly said for this reason, and including that the age is suitable when there was a very strong mass character in hockey after a successful and beautifully held championship in the fourteenth year of the world, boys born in 2007, starting from 2007, began to actively come to hockey . more than 200 children came to the dynamo school. we could not accept everyone throughout the country. e in those cities and regional centers when they were built. uh, ice palaces. this is the beginning of the 2000s . eh, here. exactly this influx is a huge influx of belarusian children who came to play hockey. now, thanks to this, the choice will be much greater. remember, that's before all the time. uh, one coach. uh,

well-deserved constant criticized. how about other schools work when we went to the first international in my life. the tournament is the european championship, it was interesting to watch the prospectuses, booklets, mm of all teams, when our entire team of belarus was made up of pupils. e of one e school youth today and the last world championships were shown even by youthful world championships, in which we beat the yefins. and chekhov showed how our team is already formed from a larger number of many more schools and every year. it will be more and more and more efficiently in the 2000s , skating rinks were built. and someone began to closely monitor their schools. and someone as i remember in my time. such as the mogilev hockey club, they simply brought whole railway wagons. hmm. e russian hockey players. yes, they performed well and showed results, but, unfortunately, e did not always pay attention to their companions.

today, everyone will have to pay attention to their pupils, because there will be no such replenishment and such active visits. you have to educate your students. we see more more belarusian talented young guys who today have every opportunity and every chance to achieve great success at different levels. a lot of things have been created, many sports facilities have been built , ice rinks, track and field arenas , football fields in order to make girls boys. eh, they just had the opportunity to fully develop to go in for sports and achieve. uh, as the tasks set for ourselves, this nation only becomes stronger, so i am very glad that in our country a socially oriented state all conditions for free sports are created. and let the expectations of the khl dynamists be, frankly, mundane, however , the belarusian extraliga will definitely be kept in suspense almost until may. on saturday ended

the regular season from the champion. no, not only on the top line, zhlobin barely climbed into the top six in the playoffs, of course, everything will start from scratch and given the density of the result, there will definitely be surprises, our correspondent stanislav lipsky came to his hometown to ask championships. in general, they are going to wake up unambiguously, but the director of the zhlobin club declares. andrey pavlovich's not the most convincing performance of the current champion is explained by a number of factors that were predicted in the offseason. in fact, no changes in the composition. it's all normal enough processes after the championship season and e. of course, it has been updated with us, a little more than we wanted, but there are also objective reasons, but in principle, we have already eliminated all these reasons and, well, i’ll sip a little more on my shoulder. i think that in next season we will have a full squad. how realistic are you the return of suvorov if severstal finish your performance no with uvarov this season

will not be for sure. uh, we are watching the performance of dynamo minsk uh, we are counting on vitaly pinchuk to help us. well, of course, first of all, we want dynamo minsk to solve its problems, because pinchuk and any others from close dynamo should be in dynamo minsk to play. there as long as possible pinchuk that is hypothetical , yes. if there are scandinavians will end season earlier than we vitaliy pichuk, can you join us? why is it so hard to get into the playoffs? yes let's start with the question there for sports we will play there. well, this season we have such an unbalanced composition , there were always a lot of injuries. they are often they we have and thus we could not create. eh, vision, in principle, we have such a pretty thing. no, a young team, a lot of young ones somewhere e didn’t hold the blow, the closer to

the end, then at first they got more concentrated somewhere, probably more and so successfully played the ending. this is what i think will give good energy to the championship. there is no panic. this can be clearly felt in a conversation with sergei kostin, just for your attention. we have now leveled the championship after all, and uh, there are more teams, but because of this , i think that such a pinot. it's good. it's interesting. eh, everyone is more fun to play. no , i'll try to play as long as possible. i don't

know how to please the fans. well, first now, but let's try to win the championship and then we'll see if you have a charge. well, of course, it's better you have another question, but i can't help but ask. worry that we will fall back in this international atmosphere or endure one on you. yes, i think we will survive in principle, yes, it's bad that they don't play there. there, the national team has now been suspended unfairly, but the way it is. i think that i think that everything will be fine. well, due to integration with the russians, the fact that there are a lot of matches at all levels due to this or due to the fact that well, in the same place, and now the teams play in the mhl in the same place , and he and dynamo seem to have a lot of young people, i.e. raise. well, then they are preparing, then it is well, in the same place and a in the junior leagues they play and wahl there klimovich well, solovyov is there, yes, yes. well, that is, there already are, guys. they're trying

trying to get in. well, that's good, and in the same place and juniors, it's probably enough to play ours, that is, there is good preparation for the end. okay, if you play in new york, i agree, we are getting out of this crisis , entering the international arena, uh, gathering the guys and at the adult world championship, uh, the top 12 will turn out to be 12 at once, so we have. well , depending on when we get out there, like this. maybe, by the time we get out, the kleimovich is already there, and they will grow up there. vdnhl. you will already have a nhl simpso person then already top 8, at least there is support from the plant management. well , of course, yes, of course, it comes. yes , everything is on the level with us, and if you ask your back, everything is fine. everything is fine. i play, so normal in principle, uh, live here permanently or travel. lets, yes, then they go for the weekend. so, in principle, here you feel that you see, the guys are standing. well

, they don’t understand who you are. you understand that’s the significance for the anger of your figure. yes i somehow, in principle, i don’t think about it, but i don’t even know how to say it. well, it’s nice for you, of course, the kids are good, of course, they come to the matches and try. he is the class to show hockey play. well, come on, so it's cool, uh, on the bench and in the locker room with the young is difficult or they listen and how the communication goes after all, you would already be an older player. yes, it's basically okay. of course, the second one is hard to understand, but it's okay. well, in principle, everything is fine, no matter how andrei says that he also did not complete it, he did not tell me. i read too, i don't know, i'm into it all did not tell. well, since he said no, so it means no. well done, he trains every day. but that is, it means, yes, kostitsyn did not finish speaking. well, kravchenko lured me here.

how to replace him here is an athlete who does not need to be represented much, we worked together in gomel for two, he came to be small and was still a couple of seasons and played together under my leadership. uh, the boy was so ambitious. now the man is a professional and despite the fact that the juice was flying from injury. he shows his level, probably seeing how they interact, so it only raises the spectacular responsibility. athletes of a person, decent in the final match of the season, metallurg beat mogilev and vitebsk lost to the chemist, as a result, the steelworkers advanced from fifth place to the playoffs, where they will play with gomel. the first game will take place on march 10. in the meantime, we turn our attention to syria playing,

where the two remaining participants in the series up to two victories dynamo molodechno will try to pass lokomotiv a. chemist of brest will add to the winners of the regular season became soligorsk and the conclusion of another winter interview is a biathlon interview with one of those who was the idol of viewers 20 years ago, elena zubrilova celebrated her anniversary on saturday, like our recent hero oleg ryzhenkov, she has a whole scattering of medals, and only by some ridiculous accident there is no , not a single olympic, in general, when a person has half a century of life experience. he is usually asked to look back and asked what he would have done differently. our correspondent. andrey kozlov will take an interest in this from elena zubrilova and, of course, a ukrainian. in our the interview cannot be silent. and

we are watching today's events in ukraine. you in general, here to such yes there to any. yes, there in life they have always been treated somehow especially, or this is such a milestone that you should not pay attention to, for example, the round date is special. although i say the inner box to me. no, but this is a summing up of a certain part of life, of course, not everything worked out, because i would like for this rather, not a small period of time, unfortunately, there is no olympic medal, which has been striving for many years and hoping that it will not formed while the biathlon world. and the surname sounds and left, probably, a good mark. and what concerns. in general, as a result of life, there is a favorite job, if a beloved daughter, mother is a sister, that is, this is the most valuable thing that is in the life of any person, and when everything is fine with them. this makes me happy. well, in that case, sport is not the main thing in life. here you

are as one of the best biathletes in our history. you can say it directly, yes, the sport ends and at one fine moment the simple life begins, where you have to find yourself and do something else. that is, looking at modern youth and juniors at all and at a girl already an adult team. you probably already look differently. yes, you see yourself in them. surely yes, and so that its common can be, now , looking at them, they said that each generation is special, it somehow differs from each other in its own way in our generation it was a little from the hand and upbringing. today, young people have completely different views and attitudes towards sports from our generation in a cardinal way. they are more obsessed with themselves more obsessed, but on the internet, because there is more communication on the internet, we had more lively

communication. at our world cups, after each stage of the world cup, such small discos of gatherings were held, where all the teams gathered, they danced and at the same time the next day they went to the start and won today in the biathlon world there is no such thing. she is on hiatus from commonwealth international sports with a russian team. what do you think, it’s difficult for the guys there in this situation to compete in general to find motivation. i think that our athletes are worthy and professionals. they find motivation to compete not only to compete, but also to win russian athletes are also of a very high level, and in order to win the commonwealth cups or the russian championships, you need to offer a lot of work to beat the russians. for athletes, these competitions that we hold between the two countries allow them to stay at a certain level, they have gone

at least once during this time. well, the logical answer to the question. why are they taking the national team removed from international competitions, recently sport has become political and uh, many politicians in other countries, sport politicizes sport should always be out of politics. it's right at home, it's convenient, because, as an athlete, going to a distance with himself from a distance and rivals. but at the same time, yes, pay attention that even some athletes from other countries are negatively in favor of a return. why, again, is it difficult to get into the heads of other athletes and is responsible for their actions, i guess. something pushes them to this possible, it's fear, additional competition. perhaps there are some other reasons for such a difficult library situation. we even live. i think to you, especially this is all very experienced and very painful. i can only suspect,

because my relatives are there too. very painful and very. we hope that everything there will end in the near future, and we will all live in peace and communicate and be friends . that's all for today , the news agency presents a project sports frame for belarus 5

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i welcome you. i remember. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of each of the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. i will tell you right now. us president joe biden made an unexpected visit to kiev the visit to the capital of ukraine by the american leader was not announced anywhere for security reasons . it is known that the white house, a few hours before biden's arrival in ukraine informed the russian side about the visit to avoid excesses, analysts link the trip with the start of the us election race where biden intends to run for a second term, and president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko expressed his opinion on the visit of the us leader in an interview with a news agency, xinhua and the china media corporation but this is a parrot you know, it's already happened. that's exactly the kind of visit. why

elections are presidential elections and he wants, uh, joe biden on a horse on a horse of war. jump into this election campaign i visited moscow head of the office of the commission of the central committee of the communist party of china for international affairs. wang im in the recent past, wang and led the thread hp ah now serves as a special envoy of president xi, jinping press is actively discussing the possible business card. mr. xi to moscow this spring, such an event will be a demonstration of china's unambiguous support for russia's position in the ukrainian conflict. in the meantime, during his visit to russia , wang emphasized in every possible way that the efforts of third countries to destroy the russian-chinese partnership are doomed to failure under the third

countries are referring to the eu ball russia announced the suspension of participation in the strategic offensive arms treaty the treaty provided for limiting the number of deployed nuclear weapons carriers and warheads placed on them for the united states and russia the document was the last international agreement in the field of nuclear weapons control that was in effect we can say that the system of checks for the two leading nuclear powers formed during the cold war has ceased to exist and today's let's start the program with poetry. blessed is the one who consecrated the world in its minutes, fatal all the good called him, as an interlocutor to the feast, he is a spectator of their high spectacles, he was admitted to their council and alive, like a celestial from the cup of their immortality, he drank these lines, not only of a poet, but also of a diplomat fyodor ivanovich tyutchev for a year now, as a consolation to all of us, the world has been experiencing the most abne since the end of the cold war, shocks, what is

the result and what will be the vector of changes and what to expect from the new cold war? we will look into this program and natalya valerievna eremina, doctor of political sciences, professor of the department of european studies, faculty of international relations, st. petersburg state university, will help me in this. hello. hello and alexey dzhent. the political scientist is with us today. hello alexey, we are starting our program with the question, in your opinion, is there a high risk that the new cold war will become hot. alexey please what is meant by a hot war? that is, a nuclear conflict or a collision within let's say conventional weapons? yes, if , uh, the second option, then in fact this is already happening, and uh, we are standing here, of course, on the threshold of a larger-scale conflict. yes, and i would not want it to be with the use

of nuclear weapons, but i will say, so since the caribbean crisis , the risk of such a conflict is greater than ever, i absolutely agree with you. natalia vareevna. i share the belief that in fact we are already in a state of conflict of a very serious nature. and in fact, in general, hot spots have always existed and one of the distinguishing the feature of the cold war is just a hot clash in different parts of the world. therefore , in fact, we see such a reincarnation of the cold war now, but just now the war has come, very close to us. it is actually on our doorstep. i will ask my colleagues to withdraw the card. the theater of military operations in the east of ukraine today looks exactly like this. alexey , i know that your trip to the kherson region took place not so long ago. tell in general. what moods prevail in society and how successful is it at the moment? is a special military operation. yes, i was in kherson and zaporozhye regions.

and of course the main question that people ask. how long will the war last and whether russia has come forever, because this is the most important thing for people to feel confident in the future and the second impression about what happened there in the ukrainian time, unfortunately, is the decay of society. that is , on the one hand, the state was replaced by nationalist groups, which, uh, took over power and inflicted a monopoly. uh, already belonged to them. yes, that is, not an official, and the second is how they decomposed. well, relatively speaking the soul and consciousness. that is, the mass influence of sects. this is the decomposition. well, our community is some kind of spiritual. this is what i just saw. and of course, when you come there with people, you have to work, that is , russia has already begun this work, but you need to go deeper and more systematic and, of course, tell what will happen next. yes, someone is waiting for the return of ukraine, but the most important message

is what russia brought and what these people gives here it is necessary to explain to explain. well , including also on the part of an ally of the republic of belarus, this is a matter, but our people are not lost. you just need to practice. natalya and please tell us how you assess this year of vision of a special military operation as a whole by how there were different periods and, probably, the one, but the potential that russia planned to deploy was not always successful and recently there have been great successes, but there have been from a private military company. wagner what are the future plans prospects? in your opinion, the russian federation has very concretely and clearly shown its intention to be in these territories. here at least, at least. this is a very basic point, the most important one, in which we will go further and on which we will rely. but besides the fact that we have clearly

stated that we are here in these territories, that we have come here, and we do not intend to leave, because there is a certain strategy for the development of these territories, inclusion in the russian federation, respectively, from all over accompanying tour, and so on and so forth , such work has really begun already, but it is very important to really solve the issues of the military plan. here, without a decision on the final military plan, without a clear understanding. here is the format in which ukraine will exist and whether it will exist at all, we will not solve the issue of these territories, because the question should still be in hostilities . will represent ukraine as a whole. and now answering this big question. what is ukraine, we will answer all other questions, including military ones, including those of a socio-political plan, and including economic ones. i want to remind everyone that when these territories were included in the russian empire. they gave a very big impetus to economic development. this is the port area. this is the southern zone. this is

a recreation area. the agricultural zone is the labor zone. that is metallurgy. uh, minerals and so forth, so in this case it's a very, uh, large volume. useful resource in general, and above all, of course, people. people who are hardened, and terrible trials and in general, the feeling of this big country, which should now come to it. i hope that we all will somehow contribute to this feeling that you belong to a big family in a huge country, and we are all different, but we are all relatives to each other. this is the main task that we now face, in addition to military operations, but i will repeat once again without answering the question of what ukraine will be like and whether it will be with it represent something at all, we will not answer these questions. there is a key question that is being asked. probably every participant in this process is every person who monitors the situation that has erupted in the community. how long will all this go on? here's to your point of view. i want us to try to pass at the beginning of the program. this, of course, is a subjective opinion,

but another year 2023 will be a hot year, based on tactical considerations, based on the position of relations, for example, novorossiya. it is clear that this is still the period of spring, based on strategic considerations. we understand that this is a much larger space. these are necessary, and the corridors, including those connected with transdniestria and so on, this situation before e may be in the summer season and may be in the autumn season, because we do not know how the situation will develop. yes, but there is a socio-political situation that requires much more time, but for work with the population alexei please, are you ready to give your forecast ? alexey dzerzhin. i think that the fighting will continue, probably for a year at least, but the most key question. eh, he sounded in the speech of a colleague, what will ukraine be like and will it really be here now to save ukraine

, the people of ending the war? it would be important to have a ukrainian entity. whether he will act from abroad or rely on the underground within ukraine, the fate of ukraine must still be decided, including by the ukrainians themselves, and for this there must be a subject who would say clearly, we want an end to the war. we want peace with our neighbors , this is difficult. here. so far i see some there are signs of a hint that he is starting to appear, but he has not become a factor, yes, which influences , among other things, serious decisions, because so far, on behalf of the ukrainian people , the kiev regime, headed by zelensky, is speaking, which , in fact, made zombies and all their meat grinders out of ukrainians allowed. and if this continues. e further, it will continue for a long time until the last ukrainian. we understand this, therefore, a cardinal demolition

of the situation in a political and other sense will come only when, after all, a ukrainian subject actually appears, which declares gotta stop this. we have our right to vote and we want to see our country peaceful. well, you see, aleksey, i think you will agree that the year was extremely nervous, and this nervousness turned out to be the citizens of the republic, belarus, because this is hysteria , the desire to raise the degree to the maximum, probably the degree possible on the part of the neighbors of the republic of belarus, extremely aggressive statements were made from the lips the leaders of poland or you and latvia, and by the way, the leader of the republic of belarus expressed his anxiety and certain thoughts question alexander lukashenko let's hear that we are ready to fight together with the russians from the territory of belarus or that only in one so far, what is better if at least one soldier from there

with a gun comes to our territory to kill my people, if they commit aggression against belarus, the answer will be the most cruel ukraine was only the united states of america and someone in western europe wanted this as a pretext for starting this war. i mean, your manners with the hands of the poles chop off western ukraine, but this will already be a fight. well thing, and then you won't ask me questions. will we advance with the territory of belarus or not? ah here is, indeed appetite grows with food. and, of course, your ambitions. give your desires, which apply to western ukraine the leader of poland has repeatedly expressed, but also note how opponents. the current authorities of the republic of belarus tried in every possible way to manipulate public opinion, saying, and warning that belarus would enter

the war, belarus would enter the war, the escalation was maximum, but this is not happening, and now certain red lines from the lips of the president of the republic of belarus sounded aleksey why they sounded, we all understand, if to one degree or another. poland acquires control over the western or central part of ukraine for us for belarus - this is an existential threat. we find ourselves surrounded on three sides by hostile regimes. yes, all the more so if there is some form of the union of bandera, with the pilsuchiks, yes, this is schizophrenia, but nevertheless, for the sake of geopolitical goals, they will go for this, and this is the main goal for us here it will be easy to survive as a state, and we, of course, will not look at this, especially since we know the character of our president. we must not allow either belarus or russia to allow the poles to control at least some part of ukraine, they will simply tell me, this is utopia. it

is impossible there. she falls apart there. no. we must set maximalist goals somewhere , but the national interest of the republic of belarus of the union state is answered by the fact that all of ukraine should not be under the control of nato, how to achieve this is another question over by this think together, but in the minds we must have this formula no poles. nato members should not be anywhere in kiev , odessa, or lvov. this is the maximum that , in my opinion, adheres to, including alexander grigoryevich, i want to remind you, of course, when the west is in the sanctions department. he was convinced that russia would probably suffer a catastrophe in economic terms. let's remind our viewers. which states have imposed sanctions? which abstained and which opposed it, and this is what we have map of the world, and we see that

those parts of the world that opposed this are colored in blue, there are countries of the european union that opposed the imposition of sanctions , this is austria bulgaria hungary greece cyprus luxembourg slovakia finland and the czech republic and there are those who sued the sanctions, this is argentina belarus brazil you ecuador, south africa, many others, and in fact, a key role, and especially in providing those technological opportunities, and having lost, which russia tried for sanctions. yes , reimburse with such a partner within the framework the republic of belarus also acted as a union state yes absolutely, because we saw very interesting processes, and russia , in a sense, the situation around ukraine has become like this. uh, maybe drew dividing lines allowed to draw dividing lines. and this conflict was perceived as a way to strengthen the unity of the so-called western world, but against russia and its allies and, accordingly

, to prove that russia has no allies and in fact we saw a completely opposite picture. we saw what she really is. even these countries that may still be afraid to openly oppose sanctions, because indeed this is an unfair competition tool, and maybe at some point they will too. the station is set against itself, but nevertheless, at least, the number of countries that at least refrain from any assessments is constantly growing. and of course, there is a growing number of countries that are increasingly opposed to the sanctions tool of the sanctions regime as a policy tool. we know that in fact many countries in the world are under a permanent regime of sanctions, and this is not only russia and belarus - these are cuba and iran and many, many other countries, therefore and accordingly, we see that the world is developing unevenly and also for reasons and, of course, in in this case, uh, russia should also act as a country that opposes this kind of division of countries into those that are allegedly shaking hands, and this handshake

is determined by a certain gentleman in the white house in washington. this is an unacceptable situation. and, of course, we saw this also thanks to this dividing process. of course, now we understand that the world is much more diverse, and those countries that at one time also adhered to the atlantic vision of the world are on a larger scale. they suddenly begin to understand that there are other countries besides the eurofactual world. there are also the countries of central asia, there is the same belarus , and suddenly the world opened up and became more diverse and wider. especially you know the theme of our program, cold war 2.0 someone really today calls it cold hot, but we are currently trying to draw a causal relationship. how did it happen and we are talking about the prospects of motivation. and uh, at the moment. i would like to talk to a historian, a military expert to the maru savers, he is now in france . mr. haypetita is very glad to see you on

our program. thank you for your offer. does his west have an idea of ​​\u200b\u200bthe winning line, the successful offensive of ukraine to the south towards the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov cuts the fact that russia capitulates and accepts all unrealistic requirements of ukraine and inside russia for the ukrainian army scenario, in principle , unbelievable so islam judging by everything , just the continuation of the war without any specific solution. in my opinion, the west has only one plan, only a plan, and no plan b. and this plan, but

3-6 months was reflected in destroying the russian economy. and uh the plan failed and it turns out that the assumptions. the west were absolutely wrong about the strength of the russian economy at the request of the pro western government. c then moldova will come, the end or later will be in odessa and uh transnistria will succeed in this

situation. it is possible that the western part will join romania, but transnistria will return to russia, but it is not a fact that this will happen, since it is a very high risk for the west from my donation point of view. now don't lose it. odessa organized provocation russia will have no choice but to get through transnistria and it turns out. maybe there's an onion. future red line over addicted traces of conflict neck looks very blurry western ritlers think russia will never does not use its nuclear arsenal, does this create a miscalculation that

could lead to, uh, a new caribbean crisis. i don’t think that russia will use eggs on the territory of ukraine because vladimir putin himself said that this is part of the russian territory of the historical territory of russia. however, there is a risk for the country that if long-range weapons are supplied to ukraine, it can use them, but the russian military doctrine agrees that there are intermediate stages between the ordinary ones. for example, they can use this kind of weapons somewhere in the united states or in poland uh, and such a risk is already higher now, but i don’t think that russia will use nuclear

weapons on the territory of ukraine however, of course, i must even add that russia does not need to use with nuclear weapons in order to defeat the nato army in ukraine, if we are talking about how the issues raised by the arms will be used with ammunition, issues that should not be able to be resolved, as i think russia for victory does not need weapons. thank you for your time for our conversation alexey well, this is the opinion expressed by a military expert historian from france, he is well aware that the position that voices the european leader definitely contradicts what we just heard, but absolutely sound logical argumentation is the motivation of nato and of course the united states america and again such, it is very important to emphasize

that, naturally, the western partners set the initial goal - to allow ukraine to hold out for 3-6 months. that is, later of course, this whole situation got out of control, and therefore today ukraine is already meeting mr. biden on its territory. and america openly show that she is a kind. not just a partner, yes, but such paternal love is manifested. well, although cynicism. here, too, there are a lot of similar actions, and everyone is well aware that the same biden visit. it is designed exclusively for its target audience on the eve of the 2024 elections , it needs to be argued. and why so many funds from the pockets of american taxpayers go to support? ukraine yes, so far it is still beneficial for america. because we see how america is blocking cooperation in the energy sector between europe and russia, that is, the strategic

task is being fulfilled europe is drifting towards the united states , euro-atlantic unity is being strengthened, and not relatively speaking towards eurasia, russia, china , yes, that is, we see how the redistribution has occurred in in this respect, of course, europe is the victim of this war. it loses the strategic loses the strategic subjectivity and loses the potential of the industrial and ukraine to this is losing more demographic. well, the most miserable victim, of course, is ukraine. yes , because people suffer and die there. this is the demographics. well, i don't even know. how much time will it take. how many hundreds of billions of dollars to restore therefore to ukraine well, do we really think that

the united states will deal with this well, of course not. for them , it will be beneficial for the gray zone, which will draw resources from russia the chestnuts that were hawked for us did not go away. it’s a pity, folk bloodworms of scarves come to life for us, some kind of zhikhars and zhikharki of belarusian vesoks for us yasha more than teak belarusian songs and traditions.

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to talk about the current rhetoric of the key statements of the leaders of the united states of america and the russian federation, and the detail is not about that in our story. on the same day, february 21 , the presidents of the united states and russia delivered a speech, journalists were already baptized. this is a global event. at the same time, many experts and the media immediately began to compare the messages of the two leaders, opposing joe biden's statement to vladimir putin, all the years after the collapse of the soviet union, the west did not stop trying to set fire to the post-soviet states and, most importantly, finally finish off russia. interests and used means of economic deterrence and suppression even before biden's visit to poland the white house assured that the american

leader's speech would by no means be a response to putin's message. however, in reality. everything turned out differently. the united states and the countries of europe are not going to. not going to attack russia as putin says but we will punish everyone who commits war crimes and crimes against humanity conflict. ukraine will never be a victory for russia, perhaps the most discussed moment in vladimir putin's speech was the finale moscow announced when stopping its participation in the start treaty. after all, it is necessary, at the head of the united states, not only to build up their military potential around russia, but also not to hesitate to use nuclear rhetoric. the united states and nato quickly deployed their army bases near the borders of our country, secret biolaboratories in the course of manners mastered the theater of future military operations, prepared the ukraine enslaved by them, subject to the kiev regime to

the big war. biden decided not to react to these accusations, but made it clear that the military conflict would continue when president putin ordered his tanks and to enter ukraine, he thought that we would roll over. he was wrong. he thought nato would splinter and divide instead nato is more united than ever before in moscow the importance of keeping the peace has been repeatedly reiterated. after all, now he is more fragile than ever. we protect the lives of people in our own home, and the goal of the west is unlimited power. he has already spent more than $ 150 billion on aiding and arming the kiev regime, for comparison, according to the economic cooperation organization , the strange seven were allocated to help the world's poorest state for 2020-21 about 60 billion dollars in the us the fragility of the world decided not to think in his speech. biden only confirmed washington's further desire to show all kinds

of pressure on moscow there should be no doubt we will not falter and will not get tired of supporting ukraine this week. we will announce new sanctions against russia, according to experts, the message of putin and biden have become political gestures in the framework of the russian-american confrontation, the essence of which is the mutual recognition of the right to interests and spheres of influence , while, as vladimir putin emphasized, neither who should not have dangerous illusions that global strategic parity can be destroyed. by the way, it is worth noting that, again, these are the words of mr. biden, we will not flinch. this is also a reference to a speech that was made in 2003 by bush about the events of 9/11. that is, we understand that if you analyze certain points in this way. here is the same keynote speech about us leadership in supporting ukraine biden. i could have said it in kiev, but he said it in warsaw. and here,

too, this is explained by the fact that rather nevertheless. they did not want to draconize moscow because, and everyone understands that before making this secret visit. anyway , the american side consulted, received permission, yes, the russian side, and, of course, this is biden's pr. natalya, what are your feelings in general, and what feelings did you emphasize for yourself when you heard vladimir putin's speech to the federal assembly and heard the speech of the gentleman. biden to how natural, no matter how the american side did not try to deny it, but still biden's speech was a response to the words putin yes. and by the way, it was very clear that this is for the western world. still, business, first of all, there is such a concept . the key is the ratio of risks and profits. as long as it's acceptable. in general, it is possible to pursue one or another policy, and it was obviously acceptable. and in all the military

interventions that the united states had previously carried out , it is clear that now the situation is critically different. and here we need to correlate these risks and benefits much more and shift the risks, if possible, to our allies, first of all, the poles, who are eager to carry out their, so to speak, external strategy, are healing their historical wounds , if you listen to the president of the russian federation , then there is some feeling that we scattered stones for a long time, then for a long time they collected them, and now they began to defend themselves, but we began to defend ourselves by force, because already on our a. our house was broken into. the ball itself is aggressive. previously, he acted in the backyard, then moved to the front yard. and now he has already broken through the door, and in general, in this situation had to react, that is , this situation is a kind of reaction preemption. and when biden says this or that position regarding ukraine, we understand that the west has a clear understanding of ukraine about its role before fighting russia to the last ukrainian. they made this political project of anti-ukraine. and we don't understand yet. what is our political project in relation to these

territories, but because there really is a certain historical background. there is an understanding that, in general, ukraine as such has never existed. mostly. here is its historical subjectivity. it is so insignificant in a historical context. what's the operation somewhere to go? almost nothing, but there are large simple historical ones that we now rely on. and on which of these periods of periods should we rely on this key moment, and it is very significant, and therefore , actually, this is where our president’s speech that we have the right to defend ourselves comes from. that happened there many times. well, in addition, of course, our president drew attention to the fact that the very architecture of international security was destroyed under er the slogan that allegedly plants observe. and these agreements were precisely with the united states of america, it was the united states that consistently withdrew from those agreements , and as a result, the result was a reaction to these exits. this, of course, is a statement by the russian federation that russia is suspending its participation

in the cis. therefore, in this case , please tell antalyev. irina what does it mean in practice? here is the word suspension in fact, this is, uh, the first step for a full-fledged exit, but in fact, while the ladies are talking about suspension - this is it. eh, that means throw a trial balloon and see the reaction and see. what is it, is there any interest , what is the reaction, if the interest is still to return to dialogue, because this is a call for dialogue and, in general, russia once again, but shows that it does not break any. kleene ties, because if we were to break off ties, we would have declared just a much tougher version of events to decide. uh, these are the problems, and we would say that they are on hold, but the problem is interpretation. again, how interprets wrong. our western non-partners of the events in ukraine believe that rakiyev is worth it. so, this is kiev well done. and this, accordingly, they interpret well done, they do not incorrectly make a logical error, not understanding that

kiev is standing, because russia is conducting these military operations in such a way as not to inflict this maximum damage, which they are usually used to inflicting and, in general, they judge by themselves. uh, they judge by the military campaigns that they themselves conducted , tell alex, then as a witness of recent events collapsing, that's the term strategic stability. hmm well, let's say i would use a different term, and there are cracks. yes, we do not yet see that the facade is completely. here is the foundation, but collapsed. but the crack is serious and we all understand that it will take a very serious effort to update this building, this architecture. and, probably, after the end of this confrontation, because the architecture will already be different, vladimir putin said that the treaty on strategic offensive arms already lacks, at a minimum, britain and france nuclear powers. well, there is also china. we understand that there is also north korea and

india and pakistan, that is, the new architecture should be more global and comprehensive. yes, if we are talking about a polar world, but so far even the united states is not ready to reckon with anyone other than itself, and this, as it were, is a crisis, but the fact that they do not want to give anyone the right to decide something on the planet and russia is fighting in this sense, of course, defending this right for everyone else. well, for now, we will come to a new agreement. it may take a very long time. now this is an acute phase and it certainly. long enough, until everything settles down, and until they understand that they will have to share rights with many in this world. but tell alexei here repeatedly and mr. lavrov has already spoken about this , all the red lines have already been crossed , the level of escalation of the conflict is already so high. and yet russia claims. don't tease us. don't cross this line. do not force us

to use what we would not like, and here are the statements about the suspension of participation in the cis agreement again. that is, again, this is such a signal. and if west it again will ignore what methods then remain hmm well, you know, i'm here, maybe more subjectively they will say, of course russia shows amazing restraint and honor their praise to the leadership realizing that here is the behavior of russia here any figures in this deadly tango by the west depends on the fate of the world . this is a very responsible role. i understand how difficult it is for the military-political leadership of russia to take any other retaliatory measures, but there are things that need to be demonstratively responded to, for example, infrastructural terrorism, we hear a lot

statements regarding the fact that the united states is to blame are obvious actors. it is they who are to blame for this, the american journalists themselves. they say we hear a certain loud vocabulary. yes, dmitry anatolyevich yes, in his telegram, and i understand how difficult it is to make a choice. what to answer, but the emir. and the people need to be shown a real answer, so that it is clear that russia is not only concentrating and thinking, but can also answer in this way. well, let everything be symmetrical. let it be pointwise, so that, nevertheless, in the west, they feel a clear threat to themselves. only this one will force to go to real negotiations. well , that's what they are talking about right now, we have the opportunity to talk with timothy, glove box. hello, glad to see you in our studio. hello hello colleagues. alexey natalya hello.

you, too, when analyzing the interests involved in the current confrontation of the parties it seems that the easiest way for the west to give in is the russian compromise on ukraine will not bring any losses to the united states or the european union, except for partial reputational losses in the eyes. those the same hawks in western societies. well, most then what's the catch? maybe we don't understand something for the west , something so grandiose is at stake, which makes the continuation of the confrontation the best choice. here. what is your opinion, because we would like to talk about the world, but honestly there are no prerequisites. you know, it seems to me that now in the west there is no understanding that the situation is dangerous, maybe they are right about something, because russia also does not say that the current situation poses a direct threat to russia here and now russia is talking about strategic

threats, the president spoke about this in his message, but the situation is far from the caribbean crisis. for example, when the united states of the soviet union directly threatened each other's territories. that is, i do not think that now the perception of this crisis of this conflict is dramatic enough to make any concessions or negotiate with anyone. russia says that despite the supply of weapons, it will. will bring his work to an end. despite the supply of western weapons, and in principle in the west, can this be considered as such an invitation? well, we are fighting, and we are fighting to the last ukrainian, and then we will see why give in, then? why negotiate if he is at war, but, by the way, timofey, i think many international experts followed the movements and meetings of mr. wang, and in recent days

there has been a lot of talk that in the current crisis, china has finally made its choice and is ready to switch to more active support for russia as far as it is, according to you opinion. well, it depends on what we understand as more active support for russia and at all levels throughout the year it was repeatedly confirmed that the chinese russian strategic partnership is strong, like the rock as mr. ivan defined and, in principle, no one in russia questions, so the occasion has not arisen over the past year. well, we are completely satisfied with the positions that our chinese friends occupy. they consistently call for peace, which is right and they will follow point out who is the main culprit european crisis. and who should? to go to negotiations, who should stop supplying the kiev regime with weapons and thereby

more and more to lead the deaths of the people of ukraine , so i do not think that china, we can say that the chinese position. somehow, somehow, it has changed; it has remained consistent throughout the past year, and russia is quite happy with that. well, i can’t help but ask, in your opinion, at what other points should we expect an aggravation of the confrontation between russia and the west, whether it could be africa, syria, venezuela or will ukraine take away so much power from moscow that russia will avoid any confrontation elsewhere? you argue in some interesting way, as if in russia it was the initiator of confrontation, i think i dream of your position being wrong hope russia nowhere would it ever be wrong. russia has never been the initiator of confrontation anywhere, not in syria, not in africa, not in ukraine, in fact. this smell was the initiator of the confrontation, therefore, from russia. what does it mean there are no forces in russia

? russia ensures its basic interests and values, and where westerners will do bad things to us, russia will respond. they may well try to spread it. uh, radical islamic terrorism in central asia now they have experience, they keep a lot of isis under their wing in order to throw them into the central asian regions. and there they may well try to do something bad there. well, i think that russia with its allies in central asia , first of all uzbekistan, will solve these problems for the time being. maybe they're trying to screw something up. in the south caucasus there, the muddy position of the armenian leadership greatly contributes to this and the behavior of azerbaijan, which clearly makes its choice not in favor of russia, but russia itself, you are mistaken. she never

initiates any conflicts. thank you for your answers, this year there were a lot of hot spots, rather like powder kegs, which the west could easily ignite even the situation with kosovo, and again, serbia for the russian federation is a very important historically , first of all, an international actor relations could not be ignored either, but if the west has such a desire either now, but the situation with the same taiwan and this is the main fight, which i think we still have to see and forces the united states of america to concentrate exclusively on the situation around ukraine, this is a very interesting question . for the simple reason that it is strategic, if we look at the main documents of the united states of america , then, of course, they are focused on the pacific regions, and just like the british consider the pacific region, as the main one for its claims in order to confirm its global leadership, but a very interesting approach, but the point is that