for the rest of the week, we hold on to lower pressure towards the west of the uk. a warning awarning — that will continue to bring our a warning — our next programme contains flashing images. air source from the south—east or the east at times, and there will be weather fronts close by. so, it's an unsettled theme, i think, but it's going to feel warmer throughout this week than what we've had over the past week. it could be up to 20 degrees in the warmest spots across the southeast. but with low pressure nearby, it will tend to remain i think if i look back on the unsettled side. take care. to when i came out, when i was 22 — a couple of years before, you know, gay marriage was a thing that you could do — the world that was around me or any person thinking about coming out then is so different to what a lot of people seem to experience now. there's a couple of teachers who are, like, lgbt—trained. i didn't come out till i was in my 205. yeah, that was a difficult, difficult time for me. i mean, i always knew- i was gay, so i actually saw all of my siblings get| married, one by one. and we've a decade since that law changed. society's changed. expectations have changed. i'm interested to know whether gay marriage has

changed things as much as it seems like it might�*ve. there's still so much work to be done to try and fight for our right to be able to get married in a church. for us, faith is really important. it's really difficult to actually have a religious ceremony. i think within five years i or so, i think we will have same—sex marriage in the church. - so, how did we get here? and is everyone in the country able to benefit from the changes in the law ten years on? i guess it's how equal is equal marriage? live from washington, this is bbc news. israel's foreign minister says his country's military it's ten years since the first could suspend its planned same—sex marriages in the uk incursion into rafah and, for many people, if there is a deal where hamas releases its remaining hostages. it is a bit of a milestone. part of me struggled to come after more russian attacks on ukraine, president zelensky out and i wish i'd done it renews his appeal for a bit sooner, and i

wondered if we had more western allies to provide role models when i was growing more air defences. up, if that might have the united nations warns been a bit easier. of an attack in sudan's north a six—week stop to fighting darfur state, saying the consequences would be in the middle east... "devastating". i also speak to lots of people in this job and hear different opinions on issues in the news and, historically, the law hasn't always been on the side of gay people. it took decades of protests and campaigning to eventually i'm helena humphrey. see marriage laws we start in the middle east where israel's foreign minister has said a planned military change in march 2014. incursion into rafah in gaza could be suspended. that's if a deal is made i am now very happy to announce to free the remaining hostages that you are now legally held by hamas. husband and husband. ceasefire negotiations between israel and hamas have been stalled for weeks. but local media are reporting cheering and applause an historic moment as the first "notable progress" this same—sex marriages take place weekend. us secretary of state antony overnight. it was a time for celebrating blinken is expected to visit for gay people, and lots of it. we want to be classed as equals. we shouldn't be made to feel any different. good morning, gentlemen. lovely day for a wedding. thank you very much! we are now legally married, and that's a wonderful feeling. nearly 5,000 marriages between same—sex couples happened in england and wales that year — though not everyone was happy.

we can'tjust redefine an institution. the law changed at different times across the uk, too. ..as husband and husband! cheering and applause. in scotland, gay marriages started at the end of 2014. northern ireland waited until 2020. this is my wife. i can finally say she is my wife and we have actually had our marriage. but is everyone in the uk now able to benefit and does it make coming out any easier? one person who'd know is a tottenham striker, an england international and a lioness — bethany england, someone who's regularly called an lgbt role model. it's not often i'm sitting with somebody that's played in a world cup final. yeah. captain of a super league football team. fancy a kick—about? yeah, let's go for it. despite bethany�*s skills and success, she has to have a thick skin. this is vaguely terrifying, just in case you're wondering. she's played

in a world cup final. i bought these in the shop this morning. it's not good. you were playing in that world cup final last year. do you find that you do still get the hate? nine times out of ten, it's not women trolling women, it's the men trolling the women's game and how bad we are and it's the same generic, "get in the kitchen" or "no—one wants to watch you". yet, you found the time to comment? so, it's like i don't see the point in people needing to troll. do you get homophobic abuse on there as well? i've had a few comments, mainly when — if i've put a post up of me and my partner, i definitely had a few on twitter of some guys basically saying, "oh, come to my side. "i'll show you a good time." and like, "you don't know what you're doing "with a woman," and it tends to be a lot of religious stuff that gets thrown our way. i find it more awkward, i think, for my partner because, obviously, i'm very much an open book. i don't mind walking down the street, holding hands. my partner is very much more reserved, so it's quite sad that she feels the need to not

make other people feel uncomfortable when, ultimately, what should it matter what other people think, as long as you're happy and you're with me? you're engaged. we are, yeah. congratulations. thank you. i know it was a year ago, roughly... yeah, yeah. just over a year ago. ..that you posted that news. yeah. how was that? it was really nice. 0bviously, when it happened, it was all emotional and i always wanted this big, fancy wedding, but now, obviously, i'mjust like, maybe not so big. we're not getting married in a church. 0bviously, most churches, it's quite hard to accept for a gay wedding but also, it's such a shame that there's still so much work to be done to try and fight for our right to be able to get married in a church as well. livingston was a nice place to grow up. we moved here when i was nine or ten from glasgow. i loved football. i was obsessed with football. it's looking very different than it used to. wanted to play it, wanted to talk about it, watch it, get it on the computer game, talked about it with my friends. i've seen this before. there was just nobody in football that was gay. in a football world with lots

of other guys that don't have those conversations, it's easier to ignore completely. this is where we all met or got to know each other, because of livingston football club. it was a cup final — i think a scottish cup final — where some of the fans at it were singing about the other team's fans being gay as an insult, and that was just accepted. i kept telling one of my mates that i needed to speak to them about something and kind of then putting it off. it took being on a night out and probably having too many beers, trying to go home and them saying, "no, "actually, wait a minute. "you've been trying to tell me something for weeks." "you're not leaving before you do that." i knew i didn't really want to date girls. i remember thinking you were incredibly unlucky or really bad at it! because we would put ourselves in situations — obviously talking about going to pubs and clubs, so we were around it a hell of a lot. i didn't overthink it, to be honest with you, but, yeah. me coming out. i think back a lot, and what i might have done differently, how i might have dealt with it differently. what do you remember about it?

iremember it. it was — i think at the time it was something that was — i don't want to say taboo but it wasn't something that we'd really probably had much experience of, like, as a group. we were all guys who played football, went to the football, went out together. it wasn't probably at that time something that you'd heard much of. i think when you did, for us it was — or, certainly, for me — it didn't change anything. it was more nice to know that you felt comfortable to do that with us. yeah. i know when we talked - after that, that was a big deal for you having those i conversations with us and coming out to us. was it a surprise? yeah, ithink- it was a surprise. for me, it moved on quite quickly into, "ok, let's go| "and get another drink, then". we were in the pub at the time, so... i do you remember much about it? no, i do, i do, i do. you told me about the experience of going and meeting someone for the first time and that was the way you chose to deliver it. it was just a case of, "well, how did it go?" was the first thing i think i remember saying to you. i didn't say the word �*gay�*.

the word gay was probably used quite a lot and thrown around back then by all of us — harmlessly, we probably felt — but in a different way to maybe it would be now. you know, playing football, in the changing room, you probably weren't realising, "are the things i'm saying — "could they be potentially hurting people in the group?" words like that and the conversations that we were having at times like that, we're very conscious of now. even though my experience of coming out went well, i want to see if things have changed for people younger than i was. i was at high school from 2001 to 2008. i don't remember any out gay pupils in the school. we didn't talk about people we'd seen on telly that we liked that might be gay or talk about the fact they were gay. how are you going? what sort of support do you think you get at the school when it comes to talking about identity and that sort of stuff? if you want to learn about it, you can go to, like, obviously ask questions in wellbeing, and you will get the occasional pse lesson. but other than that, it's, like, everyone�*s kind of chill about it. there's a couple of teachers who are, like, lgbt—trained. sometimes we have, like,

meetings and it's, like, "how do we, like, represent lgbt more?" is it stuff you guys talk about or not really something you mention? occasionally. but most of the time, just kind of, like, - like, i was alwaysjust me. it doesn't really come up a lot, honestly. just it's there, and simple. what i ended up with was feeling a bit uneasy about something as i went through my teens because you knew there was this thing you weren't being honest about. it would have been, like, a neater situation, in a lot of ways, if you'd realised, "ok, i'm gay". so, ten years on from the same—sex marriage act coming into effect. but let's go back a bit — to the 16th century, when king henry iii made gay sex punishable by death. over 300 years later, the death penalty was replaced with a life sentence in prison, or hard labour. by 1885, when canal street

in manchester was trading cotton instead of drinks, the law was extended to include all homosexual acts as gross indecency. it was used to prosecute gay men like oscar wilde, the author, and world war ii code—breaker alan turing. by 1954, more than 1,000 men a year were being sent to prison. that led to calls to look again at the law. i went into this toilet i suppose two or three times in the course of an afternoon. i came out and somebody said that they was arresting me for importuning. in other words, looking for sex in a public place. this man spoke anonymously to the bbc about being arrested. so, they put me in a cell. i never slept. ijust sat and cried. in 1957, a uk government report recommended decriminalising gay sex. sirjohn woolfenden chaired the committee that published it. adult, consenting males in private should not have their behaviour in this matter brought

within the criminal law. it didn't happen until 1967, and only in england and wales. but a change in the law doesn't guarantee a change in attitude by the rest of us. for many of us, this is revolting — men dancing with men. any progress in the rest of the uk was slow. gay sex was illegal in scotland until 1981 and an offence in northern ireland until 1982. mufseen from london came out as gay when he was 24. he's from a big family and has gone to lots of their weddings. but he wonders whether it's something he might be able to do, too. yeah, so i grew up in brighton and my parents are both bangladeshi and muslim. it was, like, a very lovely childhood to grow up by the sea. so, i grew up with five sisters and one brother and i'm the youngest. wow. so, i actually saw all of my

siblings get married, one by one, until, like, the pecking order came down to me. going to some weddings, especially as i got into, like, teenage years, it became bittersweet because i was like, "oh, you know, i really enjoy "weddings and all the tradition. "when it's my turn, i'm just going to probably "disappoint my parents." and that's quite a lot to hold as a young person. when did thinking you might be gay start? i've always been gay. and i think in south asian cultures — especially, like, with the older generation, there's this idea that it was a choice, which is obviously completely false. it was difficult and i knew i wasn't going to get a positive reaction, so i kind ofjust took it on the chin. and over the years, we've been able to rebuild our relationship. the relationship with my siblings is great now and they are very supportive. i have seen some of my queer south asian friends get married, been able to incorporate their culture, have family members and relatives come, and that's beautiful. and if i do get married, i'd love to do it the same way. i would love for everyone just

to be able to celebrate that one day with everything, with completely unfiltered joy. wagwan, 1xtra! happy tuesday. and when it comes to no filters, remi, who i work with at 1xtra, really fits the bill. i wish there was just like a live feed where people canjust watch what's going on in the studio. that's right. it's remi burgz, your local energy provider. i'm going crazy to these songs. this hat is off, the glasses are in the corner. the hair's swinging from side to side. it was very, very important for me to come out to my family. growing up nigerian, respect is a massive thing in our culture so, for me, i didn't feel like i could do anything until i told them. how did that go? how did that work? telling my dad — ithink he was the one i was scared

to tell the most because we had a good relationship. it was just a random day, where i casually go to my parents' house and i kind ofjust told him like, "yo, like, this is who i am." i had a massive cry, like, and he hugged me and hejust told me that, "i just want you to be happy" and i remember — i remember leaving that house like i was flying. ifeel like, growing up, iwas like, "yeah, "i want to get married." the law is there which allows you to have same—sex marriage. it's still something that i don't think is visual. growing up, i didn't see anyone who looked like me, so it was very hard for me to imagine that i could live it. i'm just following love and wherever that leads me, oh, if it means i say i do, then i do, innit? but if not, then i don't. while marriage isn't on everyone's minds, the issue is forjide

macauleay. he's a priest in the church of england, which right now doesn't allow same—sex weddings. i grew up in a very religious environment. part of my personal challenge was actually trying to deal with the fact that i'm gay and that it was against both my culture and my religion, as i understood it at the time. i was on a journey suppressing my same—sex desire. i was also having mental health issues. i was breaking down. and i remember it was the summer of 1994 when i sat with my ex—wife and had to tell her that this is who i am, and that broke the two of us. goodness me. sorry. it's all right. i haven't thought about this for... but it's ok. take your time. it's ok. you know what? every time i share my story, it hurts. i always felt that, you know, the church could be a safe space and that is why i do what i do today. i just love the fact

that i was so camp. actually, i want to be that person that you can look up to to say, "jide is notjust a priest — "he's also a black man, a gay man, and someone that's "living well with hiv. "we can look at him as an example of change that "we're seeking to see." i would love to be able to celebrate and offer same—sex marriage as a priest in the church of england. the church has evolved from issues around slavery, racism, the subjugation of women. if we came back in ten years from now, will that be happening? i strongly believe it will be. it will be a dream come true. i'm hoping that within five years to ten years that we will say, roll over, you know, in the church of england, where we can have those marriages in our church and be able to say to people, "god bless you". that is all it takes. it's a big church. it is a big church. jide is someone who's turned his life around. but the pain and trauma of his past lives with him —

a burden many gay people say they also carry. so, protect yourself. by the �*80s, the outbreak of hiv and aids, which killed millions worldwide, saw gay people stigmatised. you must wear a condom. some politicians even called for making gay sex illegal again. we've rolled forward since 1957 and today is very different. we've got aids, which is a menace to health. and the schoolbook the education secretary wants to ban. in 1988, a law was brought in to stop schools from doing what they said was "promoting homosexuality." there's some very good material on sex education, but this is propaganda. it was called section 28. ..are being taught that they have an inalienable right to be gay. in 1990, justin fashanu became the world's first top—level footballer to come out as gay. his professional career ended soon after. no, i'd do the same again because the bottom line is be true to yourself —

the bottom line. he took his own life eight years later, aged 37. by 1994, the government lowered the age of consent for gay men from 21 to 18. when it went in favour of 18 and the vote for 16 was defeated, the crowd erupted. in 2000, it was lowered for most of the uk to 16, but northern ireland held out for another eight years. by 2000, section 28 was toast. devolution saw scotland become the first part of the uk to scrap it. why did you force through this repeal of clause 28? well, i haven't forced it through — it's not through yet. i've come to leeds to meet a bishop and ask why the church of england won't allow its clergy to do same—sex weddings. but first, some numbers. under the 2014 law, religious institutions were automatically not included in doing gay marriages. they could opt in if they wanted to. most still don't. in fact, of almost 40,000 places of worship in england and wales, which you need

for a religious wedding, only around 1,100 do same—sex marriages today. that's less than 3% of all buildings where those weddings happen. some of the people we've spoken to would like to see the church of england opt in to the gay marriage law and allow its priests, if they want to, to do gay marriages. what do you say to them? just a few months ago, in december, we had the first services where churches were able to bless the relationships of gay couples. when same—sex marriages first came along ten years ago, the legislation that enabled that specifically said that the church of england cannot do gay marriage. so, as part of that, in order to get to a point of changing it, requires the church of england's own parliament, and parliament itself,

to actually go through the process of changing that law. do you think it's happening fast enough? because right now, a person of faith who's gay can't get married in their own church. and i think there are many voices within the church — not least the gay women and men who are bishops, priests, in our pews — who are saying, "this needs "to happen sooner." and there are others — and some of them also gay women and men — who are opposed to this and who would say that the services that happened in december are already something that's happening too quickly for them. the church of scotland has opted in. there isn't a total figure we can compare but 156 of its ministers will conduct a same—sex wedding. 105 from the scottish episcopal church will do the same. we're the first in the county, so we're very, very thrilled. in 2005, civil partnerships were brought in — a new legal relationship status for same—sex couples.

..why we may not register as each other's civil partner... then in 2013, a law was passed paving the way for gay marriage. the first gay weddings in england and wales took place on 29th march, 2014. peter mcgraith and david cabreza from london were among the first to tie the knot just after midnight. it's very, very humbling. i feel very privileged and honoured and proud. scotland came slightly later that year and northern ireland in 2020 — though, at the time, some people were still concerned about redefining marriage. there are many millions of our fellow citizens who are deeply uncomfortable with a change to a treasured institution. northern ireland introduced same—sex marriage in 2020. steve ames performed the first religious ceremony here. we have folks who are from all sorts of different denominations and they all want to get married.

so, although the legislation changed from the government side, the churches still have to opt in, and none of the mainstream churches have — in fact, 98% of all religious officiants in northern ireland have not opted in. so, that leaves very few of us who are actually legally able, so that means i have a lot of couples who will come to me and they're asking me can i officiate a more catholic same—sex marriage or a more presbyterian one? these folks really would've preferred to have gotten married within their own religious context. i can still offer them something like that but it's not really what they wanted, you know? chris hudson's from a smaller church that allows same—sex marriages, and he campaigned for the law to be changed here. there's still not very many celebrants in northern ireland who will do a same—sex marriage. why do you think that is? i think it's because of social conservatism. however, you will find in opinion poll after opinion poll that the majority of people in northern ireland support equal marriage.

how do you engage on that with other people in those churches? you don't run around calling people homophobes, you enter into dialogue with them and, a lot of the time, you'll hear a sort of a fear element that somehow, by changing the laws of marriage, you're diminishing marriage. but when you explain to them, here is a group of people who are every bit as religious as you are but yet, you think they should be on the outside. they're discriminating against somebody on the basis of their sexuality — is that not the definition of homophobia? it's a conservatism to conserve what they believe are the better things in life. if you call somebody a name, it's not a great way of pushing your point of view or winning an argument. yes, there are people who are homophobic but i believe that most people aren't. but sometimes, something that you might think is homophobic is just innate conservatism on a particular issue. you've a rainbow flag in the corner of a church —

i don't think i've ever seen that before. jade came here to all souls church for a pride service, and she says it helped change how she thought about her identity and faith. she's here with her fiancee, lucy. we are getting married. woo! still feels a bit surreal to actually say that. you went down on one knee, did you? i went down on one knee. idid. you know, with a view of the sea behind us. i arrived to lucy standing at the most beautiful viewpoint on the north coast, loads of italian tourists, who'd been put on pause to wait. yeah, that's where you proposed, and it was beautiful. jade, you've been quite involved in getting to this point, where gay marriage is a thing in northern ireland. i suppose there are a couple of ways that we've been involved. one is through active campaigning. the more profound piece for me has been holding space publicly for our relationship. when i say "oh, do you know my partner, uade?" my colleague's in front of me and goes, "0h, "your partner's name isjake?

" how lovely! " just sort of being able to have the confidence to correct that. whilst we now, thankfully, do have equal marriage in northern ireland and across the uk, it's not as straightforward — now we have that. for us, faith is really important and it's really difficult to actually have a religious ceremony and to get married in a church. if a church doesn't want to marry us, i wouldn't want to force them to do that, but i think they should have to opt out. i think i was a little bit naive in thinking religion wouldn't be a big part of this because, all right, ten years on from gay marriage, so many more people have role models they can look up to, they can feel themselves, they can be comfortable as themselves, they can get married. but if you're a person of faith, you don't really have equal access to marriage. if you or anyone you know has

been issued —— affected by issues discussed in this programme, more information is available on: hello there. we're seeing some changes to the weather this weekend. part two of the weekend promises to be quite wet across some eastern areas. another chilly but bright day further west that you are. but it marks a change to our weather because as we move into the new week, we'll start to draw up some warmer air from the near continent. many areas will actually turn a lot warmer than what we've had over the past week. this area of low pressure will continue to bring some rain to central, southern and eastern parts of england through the night. so, early sunday, this is the position the rain will be in. less cold for england and wales — 5—8 degrees — but another cold night

for scotland and northern ireland — a touch of frost. but it's here you'll have the best of the sunshine from the word go for sunday morning. further east, it will be a cloudy, wet picture, with that rain slowly pulling away from eastern england, becoming confined to north—east scotland, the northern isles. elsewhere, plenty of sunshine around, a few scattered showers developing into the afternoon, and a windy day to come, particularly close to the north sea, close near to that area of rain. temperature—wise, the low teens for many but distinctly chilly again across this northeast corner. that rain continues to clear northwards into the northern isles during sunday night. it turns a lot drier for many with clear spells. we'll start to see thicker cloud and some showery bursts of rain pushing into western areas, though, by the end of the night — though many areas will stay dry. temperature—wise — well, actually milder for many, particularly scotland and northern ireland, than we've had of late. still a few chilly spots there for northeast scotland. this is the picture for monday. we've got low pressure out toward the west. this will be bringing south or southwesterly winds across the country and actually, for large parts of england and wales, particularly towards the south and east, it's going to stay

dry all day with some good spells of sunshine but rain will be splashing into western areas and moving across the irish sea as we move through the course of the day. some of this will be quite heavy. we've got the low teens celsius in the north and the west. could be up to 16 or 17 celsius in the southeast with that 00:28:16,111 --> 2147483051:50:52,771 sunshine and the warm wind 2147483051:50:52,771 --> 4294966103:13:29,429 coming off the continent.