vermilion. the million and purple, vermilion. the million duller question, are you cross? the like update, keir starmer has said the flag is used by everybody, it does need to be changed, wejust need to be proud of it. lee anderson, who defected from the conservatives to reform uk recently, called it virtually signalling nonsense, namby—pamby woke nonsense. people are calling on who might not be natural admirers of lee anderson, and they don't like it. nigel farage said it is a joke, there are no relationship to the st george's cross whatsoever. we have gotjess in halifax and harry in birmingham, joe in stirling and katie in clitheroe. katie, what do you think about all this fuss, are you cross?

i'm really not. i was watching newsround with my children this morning and the thing that we all stopped and focused on was the cost of the kit. the colour of the flag, i think is irrelevant. i'm surprised that the debate isn't focusing on how much they want people to pay for this kit. i might be wrong with the figures but i think they said £120 for the full kit.— figures but i think they said £120 for the full kit. 124.99, i have the fi . ures for the full kit. 124.99, i have the figures here- _ for the full kit. 124.99, i have the figures here. that _ for the full kit. 124.99, i have the figures here. that is _ for the full kit. 124.99, i have the figures here. that is for _ for the full kit. 124.99, i have the figures here. that is for the - figures here. that is for the authentic version. there is a cheaper version which is still expensive, called the stadium version, which is 84.99. it’s

expensive, called the stadium version, which is 84.99. it's crazy. i can't believe _ version, which is 84.99. it's crazy. i can't believe the _ version, which is 84.99. it's crazy. i can't believe the conversation - version, which is 84.99. it's crazy. i can't believe the conversation is. i can't believe the conversation is focusing on what colour of flag is on the shirt and not how much they are expecting people to pay for a football kit. it's going beyond a joke. football kit. it's going beyond a “oke. ., , football kit. it's going beyond a “oke. . , , , ., joke. can i “ump in, because i am workinu. joke. can i “ump in, because i am working. .— joke. can ijump in, because i am working- i am _ joke. can ijump in, because i am working. i am joe. _ joke. can ijump in, because i am working. lam joe. i— joke. can ijump in, because i am working. lam joe. ijust- joke. can ijump in, because i am working. i am joe. ijust want - joke. can ijump in, because i am working. i am joe. i just want to l working. i am joe. ijust want to say quickly, _ working. i am joe. ijust want to say quickly, because i am a taxi driver, — say quickly, because i am a taxi driver, i— say quickly, because i am a taxi driver, i have steam coming out of my ears _ driver, i have steam coming out of my ears and my customers are asking, what's _ my ears and my customers are asking, what's the _ my ears and my customers are asking, what's the matter? i said, have you listened _ what's the matter? i said, have you listened to— what's the matter? i said, have you listened to this? people died for that flag — listened to this? people died for that flag thousands of years ago, carrying — that flag thousands of years ago, carrying that flag with pride. and when _ carrying that flag with pride. and when our— carrying that flag with pride. and when our team carrying that flag with pride. and when ourteam go carrying that flag with pride. and when our team go out on the football field, _ when our team go out on the football field, they— when our team go out on the football field, they are wearing that flag with pride. it has nothing to do with— with pride. it has nothing to do with the — with pride. it has nothing to do with the woke. they wear that shirt with the woke. they wear that shirt with pride — with the woke. they wear that shirt with pride. it's our country's flag,

and its— with pride. it's our country's flag, and it's disgraceful, what nike have done, _ and it's disgraceful, what nike have done, and _ and it's disgraceful, what nike have done, and the fa. apologies, it's not nike, — done, and the fa. apologies, it's not nike, it's the fa. they agreed to this _ not nike, it's the fa. they agreed to this and — not nike, it's the fa. they agreed to this and they need a kick up the backside — to this and they need a kick up the backside i— to this and they need a kick up the backside. i have got to run, because i am on _ backside. i have got to run, because i am on a _ backside. i have got to run, because i am on a taxi — backside. i have got to run, because i am on a taxi fare. see you later. bye! _ i am on a taxi fare. see you later. b e! ., i am on a taxi fare. see you later. b e! . bye! high, i agree with the last caller. bye! high, i agree with the last when it's _ bye! high, i agree with the last caller. it's jess _ bye! high, i agree with the last caller. it's jess from _ bye! high, i agree with the last caller. it's jess from halifax. i i caller. it'sjess from halifax. i lived — caller. it'sjess from halifax. i lived in— caller. it'sjess from halifax. i lived in wales _ caller. it'sjess from halifax. i lived in wales for— caller. it'sjess from halifax. i lived in wales for three - caller. it'sjess from halifax. i lived in wales for three yearsl lived in wales for three years stormed _ lived in wales for three years stormed i_ lived in wales for three years stormed i went— lived in wales for three years stopped i went to _ lived in wales for three years stopped i went to bang - lived in wales for three years stopped i went to bang a - lived in wales for three years - stopped i went to bang a university and i_ stopped i went to bang a university and i know— stopped i went to bang a university and i know how— stopped i went to bang a university and i know how proud _ stopped i went to bang a university and i know how proud the - stopped i went to bang a university and i know how proud the welsh i stopped i went to bang a universityl and i know how proud the welsh are of their— and i know how proud the welsh are of their ftag~ — and i know how proud the welsh are of their flag. when _ and i know how proud the welsh are of their flag. when i _ and i know how proud the welsh are of their flag. when i texted - and i know how proud the welsh are of their flag. when i texted in- and i know how proud the welsh are of their flag. when i texted in this . of their flag. when i texted in this morning. — of their flag. when i texted in this morning. i— of their flag. when i texted in this morning. i said _ of their flag. when i texted in this morning, i said the _ of their flag. when i texted in this morning, i said the welsh - of their flag. when i texted in this morning, i said the welsh would i of their flag. when i texted in this . morning, i said the welsh would not have liked _ morning, i said the welsh would not have liked it— morning, i said the welsh would not have liked it if— morning, i said the welsh would not have liked it if there _ morning, i said the welsh would not have liked it if there shirt— morning, i said the welsh would not have liked it if there shirt had - morning, i said the welsh would not have liked it if there shirt had a - have liked it if there shirt had a blue _ have liked it if there shirt had a blue dragon— have liked it if there shirt had a blue dragon on— have liked it if there shirt had a blue dragon on their— have liked it if there shirt had a blue dragon on their flag. - have liked it if there shirt had a blue dragon on their flag. thatl have liked it if there shirt had a blue dragon on their flag. that last brilliant core _ blue dragon on their flag. that last brilliant core from _ blue dragon on their flag. that last brilliant core from joe, _ blue dragon on their flag. that last brilliant core from joe, talking - brilliant core from joe, talking about people, thousands of years ago, people died for that flag. if he is referring to the crusades, call me woke — actually, don't — but

that wasn't the most glorious episode in english history. but the good thing about it is that it is a flag that has been reclaimed. definitely. but i feel like english people _ definitely. but i feel like english peorrte are — definitely. but i feel like english peorrte are not _ definitely. but i feel like english people are not allowed - definitely. but i feel like english people are not allowed to - definitely. but i feel like english people are not allowed to fly- definitely. but i feel like englishl people are not allowed to fly that fla l people are not allowed to fly that flag with — people are not allowed to fly that flag with pride _ people are not allowed to fly that flag with pride like _ people are not allowed to fly that flag with pride like the _ people are not allowed to fly that flag with pride like the welsh - people are not allowed to fly that flag with pride like the welsh and scottish— flag with pride like the welsh and scottish d0~ — flag with pride like the welsh and scottish do. it — flag with pride like the welsh and scottish do. it offends _ flag with pride like the welsh and scottish do. it offends too - flag with pride like the welsh and scottish do. it offends too many. scottish do. it offends too many people — scottish do. it offends too many --eole. . .' , scottish do. it offends too many --eole. . . . people. yeah, it offends people because the _ people. yeah, it offends people because the union _ people. yeah, it offends people because the union jack - people. yeah, it offends people because the union jack was - people. yeah, it offends people - because the union jack was usurped because the unionjack was usurped by the national front. i remember as an eight—year—old, having matches in birmingham where adults were pointing at us with the monkey masks on and laughing and abusing us. i didn't know what they were laughing at until a few years later. then i understood. they were wrapped with the unionjack. it took decades to reclaim that flag. we are only

talking about the 90s and the 80s, when the flag of st george was for the bnp. we had groups of skinheads going out and beating up people of colour. it takes time for these flags to be treated with respect. this is our country and i am so passionate about it, but we have to have a bit more perspective on these flags. it means different things to different people. if you were abused and called an xp two.— and called an xp two. apologies for the language _ and called an xp two. apologies for the language if— and called an xp two. apologies for the language. if anyone _ and called an xp two. apologies for the language. if anyone was - the language. if anyone was offended, i apologise. the language. if anyone was offended, iapologise. if the language. if anyone was offended, i apologise. if you record a black so and _ offended, i apologise. if you record a black so and so, _ offended, i apologise. if you record a black so and so, the _ offended, i apologise. if you record a black so and so, the union - offended, i apologise. if you record a black so and so, the union jack. a black so and so, the unionjack wouldn't mean the same thing to you. or in the 90s, if you are beaten senseless by people wrapped in the flag of st george, it doesn't mean

the same thing. but flag of st george, it doesn't mean the same thing.— the same thing. but harry, chill out. the same thing. but harry, chill out- keeping — the same thing. but harry, chill out- keeping a _ the same thing. but harry, chill out. keeping a clean, _ the same thing. but harry, chill out. keeping a clean, i- the same thing. but harry, chill. out. keeping a clean, i understand your anger. out. keeping a clean, i understand youranger. it's out. keeping a clean, i understand your anger. it's disgusting, the stuff that you described. and it needs to be in the dustbin of history, but isn't this counter—productive by changing it from red, the traditional st george's cross, to red, navy, light blue and purple? is that going to enrage people? iliiiur blue and purple? is that going to enrage penile?— blue and purple? is that going to enrage people? our flag is our flag. what difference _ enrage people? our flag is our flag. what difference does _ enrage people? our flag is our flag. what difference does a _ enrage people? our flag is our flag. what difference does a colour- enrage people? our flag is our flag. | what difference does a colour make? say that to a welsh person with a blue dragon— say that to a welsh person with a blue dragon on— say that to a welsh person with a blue dragon on their— say that to a welsh person with a blue dragon on their flag. - say that to a welsh person with a blue dragon on their flag. they. blue dragon on their flag. they would — blue dragon on their flag. they would hate _ blue dragon on their flag. they would hate it. _ blue dragon on their flag. they would hate it. they— blue dragon on their flag. they would hate it. they are - blue dragon on their flag. they would hate it. they are so - would hate it. they are so passionate _ would hate it. they are so passionate about - would hate it. they are so passionate about their. would hate it. they are so i passionate about their flag, would hate it. they are so - passionate about their flag, and they are — passionate about their flag, and they are allowed _ passionate about their flag, and they are allowed to _ passionate about their flag, and they are allowed to be. - passionate about their flag, and they are allowed to be. englishl they are allowed to be. english people — they are allowed to be. english people are _ they are allowed to be. english people are not _ they are allowed to be. english people are not allowed - they are allowed to be. english people are not allowed to - they are allowed to be. english people are not allowed to be i people are not allowed to be passionate _ people are not allowed to be passionate about _ people are not allowed to be passionate about their- people are not allowed to be passionate about their flag, i people are not allowed to be i passionate about their flag, and people are not allowed to be - passionate about their flag, and we should _ passionate about their flag, and we should he _ passionate about their flag, and we should be allowed _ passionate about their flag, and we should be allowed to _ passionate about their flag, and we should be allowed to be. _ passionate about their flag, and we should be allowed to be. find - should be allowed to be. and passionate — should be allowed to be. and passionate about _ should be allowed to be. passionate about england. i should be allowed to be.— passionate about england. i wasn't passionate about england. i wasn't passionate about england. i wasn't passionate about this flag when it was wrapped around racists. tote

passionate about this flag when it was wrapped around racists. we are talkin: was wrapped around racists. we are talking about _ was wrapped around racists. we are talking about flying _ was wrapped around racists. we are talking about flying and _ was wrapped around racists. we are talking about flying and football. . talking about flying and football. from _ talking about flying and football. from the — talking about flying and football. from the 60s, _ talking about flying and football. from the 605, it— talking about flying and football. from the 605, it took— talking about flying and football. from the 605, it took me - talking about flying and football. from the 605, it took me until. talking about flying and football. i from the 605, it took me until the from the 60s, it took me until the london olympics to change. it takes time. if you had gone through abuse like that, you would understand, but you don't. it was the same flag wrapped around these racists when they were abusing anyone of colour. this is the argument for re—appropriating, harry. it is about reclaiming it. re-appropriating, harry. it is about reclaiming it— reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would take time- _ reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would take time. that _ reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would take time. that is _ reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would take time. that is why - reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would take time. that is why i - reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would take time. that is why i am - reclaiming it. ok, fine. it would. take time. that is why i am more tolerant about the colour of the flag. tolerant about the colour of the flat. , , tolerant about the colour of the fla., �* , . tolerant about the colour of the fla., , ., tolerant about the colour of the flan , ., tolerant about the colour of the fla., , . ., tolerant about the colour of the flag. just a second. i want to bring david in barnsley _ flag. just a second. i want to bring david in barnsley and _ flag. just a second. i want to bring david in barnsley and will- flag. just a second. i want to bring david in barnsley and will in - flag. just a second. i want to bring david in barnsley and will in north | david in barnsley and will in north london and anyone else who wants to

join us. it's a row that is raging across the english nation stop and as a scotsman, i am listening with great interest. dave in barnsley and will in north london. dave, respond to will. ~ , .. will in north london. dave, respond to will. ~ .. will in north london. dave, respond to will. ~ ., , to will. will, you go first. i was sor to to will. will, you go first. i was sorry to hear — to will. will, you go first. i was sorry to hear about _ to will. will, you go first. i was sorry to hear about your - to will. will, you go first. i was sorry to hear about your dog i to will. will, you go first. i was. sorry to hear about your dog last week _ sorry to hear about your dog last week we — sorry to hear about your dog last week. we lost our cat. it is a storm in a teacup— week. we lost our cat. it is a storm in a teacup for— week. we lost our cat. it is a storm in a teacup for me. it's a cross. to stilt— in a teacup for me. it's a cross. to still predominantly red, and as the lady pointed out 20 minutes ago, is a small— lady pointed out 20 minutes ago, is a small flag on the of the shirt. i think— a small flag on the of the shirt. i think there — a small flag on the of the shirt. i think there is a bit of misogyny in their— think there is a bit of misogyny in their that — think there is a bit of misogyny in their that women can't have a view on football — their that women can't have a view on football. anything that enrages nigel— on football. anything that enrages nigel farage and lee anderson is a -ood nigel farage and lee anderson is a good thing for me. the}r nigel farage and lee anderson is a good thing for me.— nigel farage and lee anderson is a good thing for me. they are furious. dave, do good thing for me. they are furious. dave. do you _ good thing for me. they are furious. dave, do you want _

good thing for me. they are furious. dave, do you want to _ good thing for me. they are furious. dave, do you want to respond? it'sl dave, do you want to respond? it's the flai dave, do you want to respond? it's the flag of — dave, do you want to respond? it's the flag of this country. you don't -et the flag of this country. you don't get a _ the flag of this country. you don't get a choice — the flag of this country. you don't get a choice in _ the flag of this country. you don't get a choice in the _ the flag of this country. you don't get a choice in the colour, - the flag of this country. you don't get a choice in the colour, is- the flag of this country. you don't get a choice in the colour, is what the colours — get a choice in the colour, is what the colours are. _ get a choice in the colour, is what the colours are. the _ get a choice in the colour, is what the colours are. the flag - get a choice in the colour, is what the colours are. the flag of - get a choice in the colour, is what the colours are. the flag of st i the colours are. the flag of st george — the colours are. the flag of st george is— the colours are. the flag of st george is on— the colours are. the flag of st george is on the _ the colours are. the flag of st george is on the flag - the colours are. the flag of st george is on the flag of- the colours are. the flag of st i george is on the flag of barcelona. would _ george is on the flag of barcelona. would they— george is on the flag of barcelona. would they be _ george is on the flag of barcelona. would they be happy— george is on the flag of barcelona. would they be happy with - george is on the flag of barcelona. would they be happy with it - george is on the flag of barcelona. would they be happy with it being i would they be happy with it being changed _ would they be happy with it being changed in— would they be happy with it being changed in these _ would they be happy with it being changed in these other— would they be happy with it being changed in these other places i would they be happy with it beingl changed in these other places that have the _ changed in these other places that have the flag — changed in these other places that have the flag of— changed in these other places that have the flag of st _ changed in these other places that have the flag of st george - changed in these other places that have the flag of st george on i changed in these other places that have the flag of st george on their flag? _ have the flag of st george on their flai ? . , have the flag of st george on their flai ? . y .. have the flag of st george on their flai ? . , ., ., flag? until recently, due to modern technology. — flag? until recently, due to modern technology, there _ flag? until recently, due to modern technology, there was _ flag? until recently, due to modern technology, there was never - flag? until recently, due to modern technology, there was never a i flag? until recently, due to modern technology, there was never a flag | technology, there was never a flag on the _ technology, there was never a flag on the kit— technology, there was never a flag on the kit in the first place. it's only— on the kit in the first place. it's only in— on the kit in the first place. it's only in the _ on the kit in the first place. it's only in the last 15 years that they have _ only in the last 15 years that they have lreen— only in the last 15 years that they have been putting these little motifs — have been putting these little motifs on. have been putting these little motifs om— have been putting these little motifs on. �*, ., . ., , motifs on. it's not a motif, is the national flag- _ motifs on. it's not a motif, is the nationalflag. i— motifs on. it's not a motif, is the national flag. i find _ motifs on. it's not a motif, is the national flag. i find it _ motifs on. it's not a motif, is the national flag. i find it difficult i national flag. i find it difficult to iet national flag. i find it difficult to get too — national flag. i find it difficult to get too excited _ national flag. i find it difficult to get too excited about i national flag. i find it difficult to get too excited about it. . national flag. i find it difficult to get too excited about it. i | national flag. i find it difficult i to get too excited about it. i think it's a _ to get too excited about it. i think it's a very— to get too excited about it. i think it's a very good kit, reminiscent of the french— it's a very good kit, reminiscent of the french national kit. it has an identity— the french national kit. it has an identity with pale blue and hints of green _ identity with pale blue and hints of green on _ identity with pale blue and hints of green on the shoulders. that wasn't in the _ green on the shoulders. that wasn't in the traditional kit. that

green on the shoulders. that wasn't in the traditional kit.— in the traditional kit. that is the kit, not in the traditional kit. that is the kit. not the _ in the traditional kit. that is the kit, not the flag. _ in the traditional kit. that is the kit, not the flag. the _ in the traditional kit. that is the kit, not the flag. the flag i in the traditional kit. that is the kit, not the flag. the flag is i in the traditional kit. that is the kit, not the flag. the flag is the | kit, not the flag. the flag is the national— kit, not the flag. the flag is the national flag _ kit, not the flag. the flag is the national flag. you _ kit, not the flag. the flag is the national flag. you cannot - kit, not the flag. the flag is the i national flag. you cannot change it willy-nilty, — national flag. you cannot change it willy-nilty, just _ national flag. you cannot change it willy—nilly, just for— national flag. you cannot change it willy—nilly, just for a _ national flag. you cannot change it willy—nilly, just for a bit _ national flag. you cannot change it willy—nilly, just for a bit of - willy—nilly, just for a bit of playfulness _ willy-nilly, just for a bit of playfulness-— willy-nilly, just for a bit of playfulness. they will still be raisin i playfulness. they will still be raising the — playfulness. they will still be raising the flag _ playfulness. they will still be raising the flag of— playfulness. they will still be raising the flag of st - playfulness. they will still be raising the flag of st george | playfulness. they will still be i raising the flag of st george before the game, they will still sing the national— the game, they will still sing the national anthem. the game, they will still sing the nationalanthem. it�*s the game, they will still sing the national anthem.— the game, they will still sing the national anthem. it's not the flag of st george _ national anthem. it's not the flag of st george on _ national anthem. it's not the flag of st george on their— national anthem. it's not the flag of st george on their back. it's i of st george on their back. it's very similar. — of st george on their back. it's very similar, in _ of st george on their back. very similar, in my opinion. of st george on their back. it's| very similar, in my opinion. it's racism, because _ very similar, in my opinion. it's racism, because it is the national flag _ racism, because it is the national flag it— racism, because it is the national flag it is— racism, because it is the national flag it is taking _ racism, because it is the national flag. it is taking back— racism, because it is the national flag. it is taking back the - racism, because it is the nationalj flag. it is taking back the national fla- flag. it is taking back the national flag and _ flag. it is taking back the national flag and saying. _ flag. it is taking back the national flag and saying, this _ flag. it is taking back the national flag and saying, this is _ flag. it is taking back the national flag and saying, this is ours. it. flag. it is taking back the national flag and saying, this is ours. it isl flag and saying, this is ours. it is causini a flag and saying, this is ours. it is causing a backlash. _ flag and saying, this is ours. causing a backlash. somebody flag and saying, this is ours.- causing a backlash. somebody said earlier, can you imagine them doing this to the stars and stripes, dave? well, the americans would be up in arms _

well, the americans would be up in arms they— well, the americans would be up in arms they have _ well, the americans would be up in arms. they have the _ well, the americans would be up in arms. they have the right - well, the americans would be up in arms. they have the right to - well, the americans would be up in arms. they have the right to bear. arms. they have the right to bear arms— arms. they have the right to bear arms and — arms. they have the right to bear arms and in— arms. they have the right to bear arms and in america, _ arms. they have the right to bear arms and in america, they- arms. they have the right to bear arms and in america, they wouldl arms. they have the right to bear. arms and in america, they would do. when _ arms and in america, they would do. when they— arms and in america, they would do. when they use — arms and in america, they would do. when they use the _ arms and in america, they would do. when they use the american - arms and in america, they would do. when they use the american flag i arms and in america, they would do. when they use the american flag onl when they use the american flag on their kits, _ when they use the american flag on their kits, they do all sorts of things — their kits, they do all sorts of things. they change the colours and have silver— things. they change the colours and have silver and grey and i do all sides _ have silver and grey and i do all sides they— have silver and grey and i do all sides. they don't change the number of stars _ sides. they don't change the number of stars and — sides. they don't change the number of stars and stripes. like the st george's— of stars and stripes. like the st george's flag is still a cross. the stars and stripes _ george's flag is still a cross. the stars and stripes have changed over time with— stars and stripes have changed over time with the — stars and stripes have changed over time with the amount _ stars and stripes have changed over time with the amount of _ stars and stripes have changed over time with the amount of states i stars and stripes have changed over time with the amount of states thatj time with the amount of states that america _ time with the amount of states that america have — time with the amount of states that america have. they— time with the amount of states that america have. they represent - time with the amount of states that america have. they represent the l america have. they represent the amount— america have. they represent the amount of— america have. they represent the amount of states _ america have. they represent the amount of states in _ america have. they represent the amount of states in the _ america have. they represent the amount of states in the american| amount of states in the american union _ amount of states in the american union. . ., ., ,. amount of states in the american union. . , , union. on a football shirt, it is not union. on a football shirt, it is rrot red. _ union. on a football shirt, it is not red, white _ union. on a football shirt, it is not red, white and _ union. on a football shirt, it is not red, white and blue, i union. on a football shirt, it is not red, white and blue, they| union. on a football shirt, it is i not red, white and blue, they have done _ not red, white and blue, they have done all— not red, white and blue, they have done all sorts of things, so to say they would — done all sorts of things, so to say they would not accept change is incorrect — they would not accept change is incorrect. �* .. they would not accept change is incorrect. �* ., . , ~ ., incorrect. don't go anywhere, i know ou both incorrect. don't go anywhere, i know you both have _ incorrect. don't go anywhere, i know you both have more _ incorrect. don't go anywhere, i know you both have more to _ incorrect. don't go anywhere, i know you both have more to say. - incorrect. don't go anywhere, i know you both have more to say. some i you both have more to say. some breaking news. west yorkshire police are investigating alleged racist

comments made by the tory party donor frank hester at a meeting in 2019. the police said the investigation had been passed over from the metropolitan police as the meeting took place in horse fourth in leeds. the spokesperson said officers were working to establish the facts and to ascertain whether a crime had been committed. they added that the metropolitan police had been contacted on march the 11th about a report in the guardian and this was the first time the comments had been brought to their attention. ah, this is on the colour. i hope no sensible indian football fan will buy these overpriced shirts and boycott wearing anything —— i hope no sensible england football fan will buy these shirts and will boycott wearing anything by nike. why is blue and white english is make that is from sarah. well, the blue comes from the unionjack, but the blue in the unionjack is the st

andrews cross, isn't it? correct me if i'm wrong. i was a graphic designer, says this one. a flag is inextricably linked with colour. imagine a german flag being changed to yellow, purple and orange. it would mean nothing. the england flag is just red and white. that is from dave. this is from john. if i were an england player, i would tape over it. this says, that the police have the option of wearing a black and white unionjack on their uniform, isn't that messing with the fly? that is from pete in egham. we have got our call is hanging on. dave, why are you so angry about this? because it's the national flag. why are you so angry about this? because it's the nationalflag. if because it's the national flag. if you put— because it's the national flag. if you put a — because it's the national flag. if you put a hit— because it's the national flag. if you put a bit of— because it's the national flag. if you put a bit of pink— because it's the national flag. if you put a bit of pink on - because it's the national flag. if you put a bit of pink on the i because it's the national flag. if you put a bit of pink on the flag| because it's the national flag. if.

you put a bit of pink on the flag of st andrew, — you put a bit of pink on the flag of st andrew, what _ you put a bit of pink on the flag of st andrew, what would _ you put a bit of pink on the flag of st andrew, what would happen? i you put a bit of pink on the flag of . st andrew, what would happen? we st andrew, what would happen? c would st andrew, what would happen? would have a phone in. st andrew, what would happen? we would have a phone in. the - st andrew, what would happen? we would have a phone in. the clans i would have a phone in. the clans would have a phone in. the clans would be walking _ would have a phone in. the clans would be walking out _ would have a phone in. the clans would be walking out of - would have a phone in. the clans would be walking out of the - would be walking out of the highlands _ would be walking out of the highlands-_ would be walking out of the hiahlands. t t, , _ would be walking out of the hiahlands. , t, , _ highlands. marching to derby, as the did in highlands. marching to derby, as they did in 1745. _ highlands. marching to derby, as they did in 1745. juliet, _ highlands. marching to derby, as they did in 1745. juliet, do - highlands. marching to derby, as they did in 1745. juliet, do you i they did in 1745. juliet, do you understand this? hot they did in 1745. juliet, do you understand this?— they did in 1745. juliet, do you understandthis? ., ., , , , understand this? not really, because i can't understand _ understand this? not really, because i can't understand why _ understand this? not really, because i can't understand why people - understand this? not really, because i can't understand why people put - i can't understand why people put their identity in a piece of cloth with some colours from years ago. as a woman born and bred in england, that flag does not identify me at all. i have no connection with it whatsoever. if this is going down the route of being english, i don't understand it. do the route of being english, i don't understand it.— the route of being english, i don't understand it. , ., , ., understand it. do you understand it, liz? not really. _ understand it. do you understand it, liz? not really. i— understand it. do you understand it, liz? not really. i don't— understand it. do you understand it, liz? not really. i don't understand i liz? not really. i don't understand the lad 's

liz? not really. i don't understand the lady's attitude. _ liz? not really. i don't understand the lady's attitude. i— liz? not really. i don't understand the lady's attitude. i am _ liz? not really. i don't understand the lady's attitude. i am intensely| the lady's attitude. i am intensely proud _ the lady's attitude. i am intensely proud of— the lady's attitude. i am intensely proud of being english. i would stand _ proud of being english. i would stand up— proud of being english. i would stand up for that flag, no matter what _ stand up for that flag, no matter what the — stand up for that flag, no matter what. the thought of it being changed _ what. the thought of it being changed to a different colour incenses _ changed to a different colour incenses me. can you imagine anybody incenses me. can you imagine anybody in ukraine _ incenses me. can you imagine anybody in ukraine standing under a ukrainian flag that was suddenly changed — ukrainian flag that was suddenly changed to purple and orange? i don't _ changed to purple and orange? i don't think so. your flag is your national— don't think so. your flag is your national emblem. is don't think so. your flag is your national emblem.— don't think so. your flag is your national emblem.- a - don't think so. your flag is your national emblem. is it? a rose can be english- — national emblem. is it? a rose can be english- we _ national emblem. is it? a rose can be english. we are _ national emblem. is it? a rose can be english. we are because the lions. _ be english. we are because the lions. the — be english. we are because the lions, the lionesses. it's all to do with our— lions, the lionesses. it's all to do with our heritage, and to think that some _ with our heritage, and to think that some football association has decided, — some football association has decided, obviously for some money somewhere, that they can change it, i somewhere, that they can change it, i disagree _ somewhere, that they can change it, i disagree with the right hijacking the flag — i disagree with the right hijacking the flag i— i disagree with the right hijacking the flag. i have no side with them whatsoever in hijacking for their purposes. — whatsoever in hijacking for their purposes, which is abhorrent. but i

am purposes, which is abhorrent. but i anr an— purposes, which is abhorrent. but i am an english person and i am intensely— am an english person and i am intensely loyal and i would stand up for that— intensely loyal and i would stand up for that flag at any point in my life _ for that flag at any point in my life it's — for that flag at any point in my life. it's our national team, not 'ust life. it's our national team, not just a _ life. it's our national team, not just a county team or a borough or whatever — just a county team or a borough or whatever. the national team is going to he _ whatever. the national team is going to he sent _ whatever. the national team is going to be sent out with a flag that nreansm _ to be sent out with a flag that means... what? but to be sent out with a flag that means... what?— to be sent out with a flag that means... what? �* ., ., , ., means... what? but what does that flan means... what? but what does that fla: mean means... what? but what does that flag mean anyway? _ means... what? but what does that flag mean anyway? it _ means... what? but what does that flag mean anyway? it means - means... what? but what does that l flag mean anyway? it means england. it doesn't. flag mean anyway? it means england. it doesn't- i — flag mean anyway? it means england. it doesn't. i know _ flag mean anyway? it means england. it doesn't. i know we _ flag mean anyway? it means england. it doesn't. i know we have _ flag mean anyway? it means england. it doesn't. i know we have a _ it doesn't. i know we have a dreadful— it doesn't. i know we have a dreadful history, _ it doesn't. i know we have a dreadful history, but - it doesn't. i know we have a dreadful history, but so - it doesn't. i know we have a| dreadful history, but so have it doesn't. i know we have a - dreadful history, but so have an awful— dreadful history, but so have an awful lot — dreadful history, but so have an awful lot of other countries. but to ut that awful lot of other countries. but to put that passion — awful lot of other countries. but to put that passion into _ awful lot of other countries. but to put that passion into a _ awful lot of other countries. but to put that passion into a flag - awful lot of other countries. but to put that passion into a flag is - put that passion into a flag is ridiculous.— put that passion into a flag is ridiculous. ~ , , ., �* , ridiculous. why is that? i'm sure our ridiculous. why is that? i'm sure your parents _ ridiculous. why is that? i'm sure your parents were _ ridiculous. why is that? i'm sure your parents were probably - ridiculous. why is that? i'm sure your parents were probably like l ridiculous. why is that? i'm sure - your parents were probably like mine during _ your parents were probably like mine during the _ your parents were probably like mine during the warand your parents were probably like mine

during the war and they would have stood _ during the war and they would have stood up _ during the war and they would have stood up for it. you during the war and they would have stood up for it— stood up for it. you don't stand up for a flag- — stood up for it. you don't stand up for a flag- it's _ stood up for it. you don't stand up for a flag. it's an _ stood up for it. you don't stand up for a flag. it's an emblem. - stood up for it. you don't stand up for a flag. it's an emblem. i - stood up for it. you don't stand up for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand| for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand u . for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand u- for for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand up for the — for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand up for the meaning _ for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand up for the meaning of _ for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand up for the meaning of the - for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand up for the meaning of the flag. i for a flag. it's an emblem. i stand i up for the meaning of the flag. what is the meaning? _ up for the meaning of the flag. what is the meaning? the _ up for the meaning of the flag. what is the meaning? the meaning - up for the meaning of the flag. what is the meaning? the meaning of- up for the meaning of the flag. what is the meaning? the meaning of the| is the meaning? the meaning of the flat of is the meaning? the meaning of the flag of england- _ is the meaning? the meaning of the flag of england. that _ is the meaning? the meaning of the flag of england. that is _ is the meaning? the meaning of the flag of england. that is your - is the meaning? the meaning of the flag of england. that is your banner| flag of england. that is your banner to stand _ flag of england. that is your banner to stand with. we flag of england. that is your banner to stand with.— flag of england. that is your banner to stand with. we have gone beyond football, haven't _ to stand with. we have gone beyond football, haven't we? _ to stand with. we have gone beyond football, haven't we? that - to stand with. we have gone beyond football, haven't we? that is - to stand with. we have gone beyond football, haven't we? that is the - football, haven't we? that is the point. actually, flag waving stuff is silly. 50 point. actually, flag waving stuff is sill . �* point. actually, flag waving stuff is sill _ �* ., is silly. so you're telling me that when scotland _ is silly. so you're telling me that when scotland play _ is silly. so you're telling me that when scotland play england, - is silly. so you're telling me that| when scotland play england, they don't _ when scotland play england, they don't wave a saltire? gf when scotland play england, they don't wave a saltire?— when scotland play england, they don't wave a saltire? of course they wave them — don't wave a saltire? of course they wave them what _ don't wave a saltire? of course they wave them what is _ don't wave a saltire? of course they wave them what is the _ don't wave a saltire? of course they wave them what is the difference? i wave them what is the difference? why would they wave the saltire or the welsh — why would they wave the saltire or the welsh way of their dragon flag? ithink— the welsh way of their dragon flag? i think it's _ the welsh way of their dragon flag? i think it's all ridiculous. that

the welsh way of their dragon flag? i think it's all ridiculous.— i think it's all ridiculous. that is our i think it's all ridiculous. that is your opinion- — i think it's all ridiculous. that is your opinion. you _ i think it's all ridiculous. that is your opinion. you are _ i think it's all ridiculous. that is your opinion. you are more - i think it's all ridiculous. that is| your opinion. you are more than entitied — your opinion. you are more than entitled to — your opinion. you are more than entitled to your opinion. the idea that people _ entitled to your opinion. the idea that people died _ entitled to your opinion. the idea that people died for _ entitled to your opinion. the idea that people died for the - entitled to your opinion. the idea that people died for the flag - that people died for the flag doesn't make me passionate and cross and angry. it doesn't make me feel that i am english and i don't need a flag to tell me it.— flag to tell me it. juliet and liz, here is marjorie. _ flag to tell me it. juliet and liz, here is marjorie. and _ flag to tell me it. juliet and liz, here is marjorie. and julie - flag to tell me it. juliet and liz, here is marjorie. and julie in i flag to tell me it. juliet and liz, | here is marjorie. and julie in the kent. marjorie, are you there? i here is marjorie. and julie in the kent. marjorie, are you there? kent. mar'orie, are you there? i am, sor kent. marjorie, are you there? i am, sorry about — kent. marjorie, are you there? i am, sorry about your _ kent. marjorie, are you there? i am, sorry about your dog. _ kent. marjorie, are you there? i am, sorry about your dog. i'm _ sorry about your dog. i'm passionate, _ sorry about your dog. i'm passionate, but- sorry about your dog. i'm passionate, but it - sorry about your dog. i'm passionate, but it didn't. sorry about your dog. i'm - passionate, but it didn't take the bbc tong — passionate, but it didn't take the bbc tong to _ passionate, but it didn't take the bbc tong to get _ passionate, but it didn't take the bbc long to get the _ passionate, but it didn't take the bbc long to get the call - passionate, but it didn't take the bbc long to get the call in - passionate, but it didn't take the bbc long to get the call in to - passionate, but it didn't take the bbc long to get the call in to link the st— bbc long to get the call in to link the st george's _ bbc long to get the call in to link the st george's flag _ bbc long to get the call in to link the st george's flag with - bbc long to get the call in to link the st george's flag with racism. j the st george's flag with racism. that is— the st george's flag with racism. that is unfortunately— the st george's flag with racism. that is unfortunately what - the st george's flag with racism. that is unfortunately what are i the st george's flag with racism. i that is unfortunately what are flag is associated — that is unfortunately what are flag is associated with. _

that is unfortunately what are flag is associated with. you _ that is unfortunately what are flag is associated with. you can - that is unfortunately what are flag is associated with. you can laugh. is associated with. you can laugh all you _ is associated with. you can laugh all you like _ is associated with. you can laugh allyou like-— is associated with. you can laugh all you like. harry was on slightly before our— all you like. harry was on slightly before our tv _ all you like. harry was on slightly before our tv audience _ all you like. harry was on slightly before our tv audience joined - all you like. harry was on slightly| before our tv audience joined us. no, he was on when our tv audience joined us and he said he grew up as a british asian in birmingham and he saw the dark side of the unionjack. i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myseif— i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myself in— i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myself in the _ i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myself in the flag. _ i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myself in the flag. i _ i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myself in the flag. i have - i grew up in birmingham and i didn't rate myself in the flag. i have only l rate myself in the flag. i have only -ot rate myself in the flag. i have only got a _ rate myself in the flag. i have only got a few — rate myself in the flag. i have only got a few seconds, _ rate myself in the flag. i have only got a few seconds, so _ rate myself in the flag. i have only got a few seconds, so with - rate myself in the flag. i have only got a few seconds, so with all - got a few seconds, so with all respect, — got a few seconds, so with all respect, it— got a few seconds, so with all respect, it didn't _ got a few seconds, so with all respect, it didn't take - got a few seconds, so with all respect, it didn't take you - got a few seconds, so with alll respect, it didn't take you long got a few seconds, so with all - respect, it didn't take you long to air the _ respect, it didn't take you long to air the core — respect, it didn't take you long to airthe core to— respect, it didn't take you long to air the core to associate - respect, it didn't take you long to air the core to associate the - respect, it didn't take you long to air the core to associate the flag. air the core to associate the flag with racisnr~ _ air the core to associate the flag with racisnr~ i_ air the core to associate the flag with racism. i think— air the core to associate the flag with racism. i think nike - air the core to associate the flag with racism. i think nike is - air the core to associate the flagi with racism. i think nike is wrong with racism. i think nike is wrong with what— with racism. i think nike is wrong with what they _ with racism. i think nike is wrong with what they have _ with racism. i think nike is wrong with what they have done - with racism. i think nike is wrong with what they have done and - with racism. i think nike is wrong - with what they have done and maybe we should _ with what they have done and maybe we should change _ with what they have done and maybe we should change their— with what they have done and maybe we should change their emblem - with what they have done and maybe we should change their emblem and| we should change their emblem and instead _ we should change their emblem and instead of— we should change their emblem and instead of putting _ we should change their emblem and instead of putting a _ we should change their emblem and instead of putting a nice _ we should change their emblem and instead of putting a nice little - instead of putting a nice little tick. — instead of putting a nice little tick. we — instead of putting a nice little tick, we should _ instead of putting a nice little tick, we should put _ instead of putting a nice little tick, we should put a - instead of putting a nice little tick, we should put a cross. instead of putting a nice little. tick, we should put a cross and instead of putting a nice little - tick, we should put a cross and see how they— tick, we should put a cross and see how they like — tick, we should put a cross and see how they like it _

tick, we should put a cross and see how they like it.— how they like it. mar'orie, i'm aroin to how they like it. mar'orie, i'm going to come _ how they like it. mar'orie, i'm going to come back_ how they like it. marjorie, i'm going to come back to - how they like it. marjorie, i'm going to come back to you - how they like it. marjorie, i'm - going to come back to you because i don't want you to feel you are being curtailed, but we do honestly represent, take this in good faith, we represent the colours that come in. we didn't shoehorn that gentleman in. there have been a lot of people who agree with you, but you are cross, aren't you?- of people who agree with you, but you are cross, aren't you? yeah, i'm cross. i you are cross, aren't you? yeah, i'm cross- 1 like _ you are cross, aren't you? yeah, i'm cross. i like the _ you are cross, aren't you? yeah, i'm cross. i like the way _ you are cross, aren't you? yeah, i'm cross. i like the way you _ you are cross, aren't you? yeah, i'm cross. i like the way you keep - cross. i like the way you keep interjecting _ cross. i like the way you keep interjecting that— cross. i like the way you keep interjecting that word. - cross. i like the way you keep interjecting that word. it’s - cross. i like the way you keep interjecting that word.- cross. i like the way you keep interjecting that word. inter'ecting that word. it's a play interjecting that word. it's a play in words. interjecting that word. it's a play in words- i _ interjecting that word. it's a play in words. i know, _ interjecting that word. it's a play in words. i know, and _ interjecting that word. it's a play in words. i know, and i - interjecting that word. it's a play in words. i know, and i don't - interjecting that word. it's a play. in words. i know, and i don't have to be comfortable _ in words. i know, and i don't have to be comfortable with _ in words. i know, and i don't have to be comfortable with it. - in words. i know, and i don't have to be comfortable with it. i - in words. i know, and i don't have to be comfortable with it. i agree | to be comfortable with it. i agree with ou, to be comfortable with it. i agree with you. but _ to be comfortable with it. i agree with you. but if — to be comfortable with it. i agree with you, but if we _ to be comfortable with it. i agree with you, but if we go _ to be comfortable with it. i agree with you, but if we go back- to be comfortable with it. i agree with you, but if we go back to - with you, but if we go back to looking — with you, but if we go back to looking at _ with you, but if we go back to looking at one of the other points, which _ looking at one of the other points, which is _ looking at one of the other points, which is the — looking at one of the other points, which is the cost of the shirts, if you go— which is the cost of the shirts, if you go back— which is the cost of the shirts, if you go back to a long time ago when football— you go back to a long time ago when football started in this country, there _ football started in this country, there were northern teams that eventually got to play against the etonian _ eventually got to play against the etonian boys. they were thought to

play against the upper echelon because — play against the upper echelon because at the time, it was money that was— because at the time, it was money that was spent in an elitist area. and the — that was spent in an elitist area. and the mill boys played and they won _ and the mill boys played and they won they— and the mill boys played and they won. they would turn in their graves, — won. they would turn in their graves, because mill boys and people from graves, because mill boys and people front that— graves, because mill boys and people from that neck of the woods and from all over— from that neck of the woods and from all over the _ from that neck of the woods and from all over the country that don't have all over the country that don't have a pocket— all over the country that don't have a pocket for— all over the country that don't have a pocket for £123 would be disgusted that we _ a pocket for £123 would be disgusted that we find ourselves here with teanrs _ that we find ourselves here with teams that came up from everywhere, both the _ teams that came up from everywhere, both the elitist teams, but the teanrs — both the elitist teams, but the teams that came way back. they would no longer _ teams that came way back. they would no longer be _ teams that came way back. they would no longer be able to go and watch footbatt — no longer be able to go and watch football. you have all gone down the other— football. you have all gone down the other route~ — football. you have all gone down the other route-— football. you have all gone down the other route._ she - football. you have all gone down the other route._ she was other route. wait, mar'orie. she was shoutin: at other route. wait, mar'orie. she was shouting at me. h other route. wait, mar'orie. she was shouting at me. i'm _ other route. wait, marjorie. she was shouting at me. i'm entitled - other route. wait, marjorie. she was shouting at me. i'm entitled to - other route. wait, marjorie. she was shouting at me. i'm entitled to have| shouting at me. i'm entitled to have nrym _

shouting at me. i'm entitled to have m �* ., shouting at me. i'm entitled to have my... i'm not shouting at you. honestly. _ my... i'm not shouting at you. honestly. it's _ my... i'm not shouting at you. honestly, it's not _ my... i'm not shouting at you. honestly, it's not a _ my... i'm not shouting at you. honestly, it's not a bbc - my... i'm not shouting at you. honestly, it's not a bbc thing. j my... i'm not shouting at you. i honestly, it's not a bbc thing. in our meeting this morning, half the programme meeting were saying this is ridiculous, the other half were saying, what's the problem? they represent the nation.— represent the nation. everybody should have _ represent the nation. everybody should have their— represent the nation. everybody should have their say. _ represent the nation. everybody should have their say. i - represent the nation. everybody should have their say. i don't i represent the nation. everybody i should have their say. i don't want to fall out with _ should have their say. i don't want to fall out with you, _ should have their say. i don't want to fall out with you, because i i should have their say. i don't want to fall out with you, because i like | to fall out with you, because i like you. to fall out with you, because i like ou. �* ., ., to fall out with you, because i like you._ marjorie. l to fall out with you, because i like i you._ marjorie, are you. i'm not mar'orie. mar'orie, are ou you. i'm not mar'orie. mar'orie, are you there? i h you. i'm not mar'orie. mar'orie, are you there? i emh you. i'm not marjorie. mar'orie, are you there? i am here. i i you. i'm not marjorie. marjorie, are you there? i am here. i don't i you. i'm not marjorie. marjorie, are you there? i am here. i don't wantl you there? i am here. i don't want to fall out — you there? i am here. i don't want to fall out with _ you there? i am here. i don't want to fall out with you _ you there? i am here. i don't want to fall out with you because i you there? i am here. i don't want to fall out with you because you i you there? i am here. i don't want| to fall out with you because you are making some interesting points. when i said, are you cross, it'sjust a silly pun. i i said, are you cross, it's 'ust a sitty pun.— i said, are you cross, it's 'ust a sill tun. ~' ., ., ,, ., ., silly pun. i know, and i know how our silly pun. i know, and i know how your radio — silly pun. i know, and i know how your radio show _ silly pun. i know, and i know how your radio show works. _ silly pun. i know, and i know how your radio show works. i - silly pun. i know, and i know how your radio show works. i have i your radio show works. i have listened — your radio show works. i have listened to— your radio show works. i have listened to you _ your radio show works. i have listened to you for _ your radio show works. i have listened to you for years, i your radio show works. i have i listened to you for years, nicky. but equally. _ listened to you for years, nicky. but equally. a _ listened to you for years, nicky. but equally. a pun— listened to you for years, nicky. but equally, a pun shouldn't i listened to you for years, nicky. but equally, a pun shouldn't be| listened to you for years, nicky. i but equally, a pun shouldn't be put in when _ but equally, a pun shouldn't be put in when people are so upset about it. ~ in when people are so upset about it. u , ., in when people are so upset about it. . , ., .,i ., in when people are so upset about it. we started off, and i was quite ha- . it. we started off, and i was quite happy and — it. we started off, and i was quite happy and l _ it. we started off, and i was quite happy and l was — it. we started off, and i was quite happy and i was cleaning - it. we started off, and i was quite happy and i was cleaning the i it. we started off, and i was quite l happy and i was cleaning the house and listening — happy and i was cleaning the house and listening to _ happy and i was cleaning the house and listening to all— happy and i was cleaning the house and listening to all these _ happy and i was cleaning the house and listening to all these lovely i and listening to all these lovely football — and listening to all these lovely football fans _ and listening to all these lovely football fans coming _ and listening to all these lovely football fans coming on - and listening to all these lovely

football fans coming on at i and listening to all these lovely football fans coming on at the i football fans coming on at the start — football fans coming on at the start then— football fans coming on at the start. then all— football fans coming on at the start. then all of— football fans coming on at the start. then all of a _ football fans coming on at the start. then all of a sudden, i football fans coming on at the. start. then all of a sudden, the racisni — start. then all of a sudden, the racisni canie _ start. then all of a sudden, the racism came in— start. then all of a sudden, the racism came in and _ start. then all of a sudden, the racism came in and i— start. then all of a sudden, the racism came in and i thought, i start. then all of a sudden, the i racism came in and i thought, why? we were _ racism came in and i thought, why? we were not— racism came in and i thought, why? we were not talking _ racism came in and i thought, why? we were not talking about - racism came in and i thought, why? we were not talking about that, i racism came in and i thought, why? we were not talking about that, we | we were not talking about that, we were talking — we were not talking about that, we were talking about _ we were not talking about that, we were talking about the _ we were not talking about that, we were talking about the back - we were not talking about that, we were talking about the back of i we were not talking about that, we were talking about the back of the i were talking about the back of the shirt _ were talking about the back of the shirt and — were talking about the back of the shirt. and that — were talking about the back of the shirt. and that call— were talking about the back of the shirt. and that call was _ were talking about the back of the shirt. and that call was selected, i shirt. and that call was selected, like all— shirt. and that call was selected, like all our— shirt. and that call was selected, like all our calls— shirt. and that call was selected, like all our calls are _ shirt. and that call was selected, like all our calls are selected. i shirt. and that call was selected, i like all our calls are selected. the woman— like all our calls are selected. the woman said — like all our calls are selected. the woman said to _ like all our calls are selected. the woman said to me, _ like all our calls are selected. the woman said to me, talk— like all our calls are selected. the woman said to me, talk with- like all our calls are selected. the i woman said to me, talk with passion, marjorie. _ woman said to me, talk with passion, marjorie. but— woman said to me, talk with passion, marjorie, but don't _ woman said to me, talk with passion, marjorie, but don't swear— woman said to me, talk with passion, marjorie, but don't swear step - woman said to me, talk with passion, marjorie, but don't swear step and i marjorie, but don't swear step and you are _ marjorie, but don't swear step and you are i— marjorie, but don't swear step and you are iani. _ marjorie, but don't swear step and you are. i am, because _ marjorie, but don't swear step and you are. iam, because i— marjorie, but don't swear step and you are. i am, because i am i you are. i am, because i am passionate _ you are. i am, because i am passionate about _ you are. i am, because i am passionate about the - you are. i am, because i am passionate about the flag. l you are. i am, because i am passionate about the flag. i| you are. i am, because i am - passionate about the flag. i would stand _ passionate about the flag. i would stand up— passionate about the flag. i would stand up for— passionate about the flag. i would stand up for the _ passionate about the flag. i would stand up for the flag _ passionate about the flag. i would stand up for the flag like - passionate about the flag. i would stand up for the flag like my- passionate about the flag. i wouldi stand up for the flag like my uncle who died — stand up for the flag like my uncle who died at— stand up for the flag like my uncle who died at dunkirk. _ stand up for the flag like my uncle who died at dunkirk.— stand up for the flag like my uncle who died at dunkirk. absolutely, and we salute your _ who died at dunkirk. absolutely, and we salute your uncle. _ who died at dunkirk. absolutely, and we salute your uncle. and _ who died at dunkirk. absolutely, and we salute your uncle. and i - who died at dunkirk. absolutely, and we salute your uncle. and i salute i we salute your uncle. and i salute m famil we salute your uncle. and i salute my family and _ we salute your uncle. and i salute my family and i — we salute your uncle. and i salute my family and i salute _ we salute your uncle. and i salute my family and i salute my - we salute your uncle. and i salute my family and i salute my flag, i we salute your uncle. and i salute | my family and i salute my flag, and i my family and i salute my flag, and i despise _ my family and i salute my flag, and i despise what _ my family and i salute my flag, and i despise what nike _ my family and i salute my flag, and i despise what nike has _ my family and i salute my flag, and i despise what nike has done. - my family and i salute my flag, and i despise what nike has done. if- my family and i salute my flag, and i despise what nike has done. if i l i despise what nike has done. if i had the _ i despise what nike has done. if i had the skills _ i despise what nike has done. if i had the skills to _ i despise what nike has done. if i had the skills to do _ i despise what nike has done. if i had the skills to do clipart - i despise what nike has done. if i had the skills to do clipart onto . had the skills to do clipart onto all these — had the skills to do clipart onto all these facebook_ had the skills to do clipart onto all these facebook pages, - had the skills to do clipart onto all these facebook pages, that| had the skills to do clipart onto l all these facebook pages, that is what _ all these facebook pages, that is what i _ all these facebook pages, that is what i would _ all these facebook pages, that is what i would do. _

all these facebook pages, that is what i would do. i— all these facebook pages, that is what i would do. i would - all these facebook pages, that is what i would do. i would put- all these facebook pages, that is what i would do. i would put a i all these facebook pages, that is| what i would do. i would put a big cross— what i would do. i would put a big cross on— what i would do. i would put a big cross on their— what i would do. i would put a big cross on their tick— what i would do. i would put a big cross on their tick and _ what i would do. i would put a big cross on their tick and i— what i would do. i would put a big cross on their tick and i would - what i would do. i would put a big cross on their tick and i would puti cross on their tick and i would put it in pink— cross on their tick and i would put it in pihkahd _ cross on their tick and i would put it in pink and see _ cross on their tick and i would put it in pink and see how— cross on their tick and i would put it in pink and see how they- cross on their tick and i would put it in pink and see how they feel. it in pink and see how they feel attout— it in pink and see how they feel about it — it in pink and see how they feel about it itite— it in pink and see how they feel about it. ~ . . it in pink and see how they feel about it. ~ , . . , ., about it. we selected harry and we selected you- _ about it. we selected harry and we selected you. and _ about it. we selected harry and we selected you. and it's _ about it. we selected harry and we selected you. and it's not - about it. we selected harry and we selected you. and it's not a - about it. we selected harry and we selected you. and it's not a racist l selected you. and it's not a racist flan. you selected you. and it's not a racist flag- you have — selected you. and it's not a racist flag. you have said _ selected you. and it's not a racist flag. you have said it. _ selected you. and it's not a racist flag. you have said it. wait - selected you. and it's not a racist flag. you have said it. wait a - flag. you have said it. wait a minute. _ flag. you have said it. wait a minute, everyone. _ flag. you have said it. wait a minute, everyone. just - flag. you have said it. wait a minute, everyone. just give | flag. you have said it. wait a i minute, everyone. just give me flag. you have said it. wait a - minute, everyone. just give me a second. 85058 on the texts. we will continue discussing this on the radio after ten o'clock. i am loving hearing all of you this morning was that there are such passion here. karen in preston and julie in kent, good morning. karen, 22 years serving queen and country. what would you like to say? to serving queen and country. what would you like to say?— serving queen and country. what would you like to say? to me, the flat is would you like to say? to me, the

flag is very — would you like to say? to me, the flag is very important. _ would you like to say? to me, the flag is very important. it's - flag is very important. it's disgusting that nike want to mess around _ disgusting that nike want to mess around with something that, i don't around with something that, idon't identify— around with something that, i don't identify it _ around with something that, i don't identify it with racism. like the queen— identify it with racism. like the queen was important when i was in the army— queen was important when i was in the army and the king is important now, _ the army and the king is important how. and _ the army and the king is important now, and the flag as part of that. it's now, and the flag as part of that. it's our— now, and the flag as part of that. it's our country's heritage. to mess around _ it's our country's heritage. to mess around with— it's our country's heritage. to mess around with it when your national team _ around with it when your national team is— around with it when your national team is going to be playing all over the world, — team is going to be playing all over the world, you should not mess with an english— the world, you should not mess with an english flag. the the world, you should not mess with an english flag-— an english flag. the point you make is aood. an english flag. the point you make is good. likewise, _ an english flag. the point you make is good. likewise, marjorie, - an english flag. the point you make is good. likewise, marjorie, in - an english flag. the point you make is good. likewise, marjorie, in that| is good. likewise, marjorie, in that lets park the racism thing, because when it comes to the flag, that flag

is being reclaimed withjoy when it comes to the flag, that flag is being reclaimed with joy and with patriotism, not nationalism. looking on from afar, it's been one of the great things, the way that flag is now something people can be proud about without any of that guilt. you're right, caron. this is actually about what nike have done in changing that colour.— in changing that colour. yeah, it's disgusting- _ in changing that colour. yeah, it's disgusting. and _ in changing that colour. yeah, it's disgusting. and it's _ in changing that colour. yeah, it's disgusting. and it's not _ in changing that colour. yeah, it's disgusting. and it's notjust - in changing that colour. yeah, it's disgusting. and it's notjust nike | disgusting. and it's not 'ust nike that have done h disgusting. and it's not 'ust nike that have done that. _ disgusting. and it's notjust nike that have done that. the - disgusting. and it's notjust nike that have done that. the fa - disgusting. and it's notjust nike | that have done that. the fa have done _ that have done that. the fa have done that — that have done that. the fa have done that-— that have done that. the fa have done that. n, . ,., ., done that. may i add something to the conversation? _ done that. may i add something to the conversation? who _ done that. may i add something to the conversation? who is - done that. may i add something to the conversation? who is that? . done that. may i add something to | the conversation? who is that? it's julie from kent. _ the conversation? who is that? it's julie from kent. let's _ the conversation? who is that? it's julie from kent. let's talk - the conversation? who is that? it's julie from kent. let's talk about. julie from kent. let's talk about football for a change and why this has cropped up. my husband was a

football coach. i have worked with football, particularly the girls�* teams, youngsters who were proud to wear their shirts to training and they were proud to have their shirts on to identify with their peers. at the end of the day, if you go way back and look at how football started, which was mill teams in the north of england that used to play against the old etonian boys to try to win to make the spot available to everybody, it is important that we have the flag available because the majority of people stand by the flag. i was born in england and i am proud to be english. i belong to great britain, but i am english and i have the right to wear the flag whenever i want. but the middlemen would turn in their graves that what they fought to have as a sport for everybody... they fought to have as a sport for everybody- - -_

they fought to have as a sport for everybody. . ._ yes, i they fought to have as a sport for l everybody. . ._ yes, they everybody... would say? yes, they would. everybody... would say? yes, they would- they _ everybody... would say? yes, they would. they and _ everybody... would say? yes, they would. they and me _ everybody... would say? yes, they would. they and me as _ everybody... would say? yes, they would. they and me as a _ everybody... would say? yes, they would. they and me as a woman, l everybody... would say? yes, they l would. they and me as a woman, our army and police force and everybody. hang on, let me have my say. hie. army and police force and everybody. hang on, let me have my say.- hang on, let me have my say. no, at the end of— hang on, let me have my say. no, at the end of the _ hang on, let me have my say. no, at the end of the day, _ hang on, let me have my say. no, at the end of the day, this _ hang on, let me have my say. no, at the end of the day, this discussion i the end of the day, this discussion started because it was about football and the flag. throughout history, our teams have played with their own colours, tottenham, arsenal, nottingham forest, liverpool, manchester united... and liverpool, manchester united... and their own emblems. when _ liverpool, manchester united... and their own emblems. when those i liverpool, manchester united... and l their own emblems. when those men, women, children _ their own emblems. when those men, women, children and _ their own emblems. when those men, women, children and youngsters i women, children and youngsters playing for the youth teams go on to playing for the youth teams go on to play with the english shirt to represent us worldwide, that was a fantastic point.— fantastic point. hold fire, everybody- _ fantastic point. hold fire, everybody. thank - fantastic point. hold fire, everybody. thank you i fantastic point. hold fire, everybody. thank you for j fantastic point. hold fire, - everybody. thank you for watching this. they are leaving us on the telly. i hope you found it edifying.

live from london, this is bbc news. america�*s top diplomat arrives in tel aviv for talks with israel�*s leaders on a plan to govern and secure gaza after the war. the kremlin says that special military operation in ukraine has turned into a war as it launches a large—scale attack in ukraine, hitting the country�*s largest dam. west yorkshire police launched an investigation into the tory party donor and in a investigation into the tory party donorand in a race investigation into the tory party

donor and in a race war. investigation into the tory party donorand in a race war. —— embroiled in a race row. hello, i�*m catherine byaruhanga. we begin with the latest on the israel—gaza conflict. america�*s top diplomat antony blinken is in tel aviv to meet with israeli leaders for talks on a plan to govern and secure gaza after the war — while pushing for more aid, and the protection of civilians. it�*s his sixth visit to the middle east since the war began. the un security council will vote later on a draft resolution proposed by the us which ties an immediate ceasefire in gaza to the release of hostages held by hamas. washington has previously vetoed three ceasefire resolutions — but has grown increasingly critical of israel�*s military campaign. our middle east correspondent, yolande knell, is injerusalem with more on what to expect from the ceasefire talks. well, he�*s here on the last stop of his middle east tour. he�*ll be meeting the prime minister, also members of the war cabinet.

we can expect to hear some more demands from the us at this time