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�*of vladimir putin's anniversary of vladimir putin's all—out invasion of ukraine is fast approaching. the ensuing conflict has exposed deep geopolitical division here at united nations headquarters. it's also exposed deep political division within the united states. further american economic assistance is blocked by those on capitol hill. does kyiv now feel betrayed? ambassador, welcome to hard
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talk. do you think right now ukraine is facing the toughest times it has seen since those early weeks after the full—scale russian invasion? it's yes and no. yes because we have entered a new stage where the effects are very different and we have to find a new modus operandi both inside and outside the country. but, the very first hours and days were exceptionally difficult and i'm proud that both my people and my leadership have done their best. ., . , my leadership have done their best. ., , ., my leadership have done their best. ., . , ., my leadership have done their best. ., , ., ., best. how closely do you follow the front line _ best. how closely do you follow the front line fighting? - the front line fighting? because i guess if you do you must have deep concerns about what is happening in the east,
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particularly around one of the major cities where it seems after months of hugely costly fighting, ukrainianforces after months of hugely costly fighting, ukrainian forces are in retreat. fighting, ukrainian forces are in retreat-— in retreat. i'm not a military exert in retreat. i'm not a military expert but _ in retreat. i'm not a military expert but my _ in retreat. i'm not a military expert but my humble - in retreat. i'm not a military expert but my humble view| in retreat. i'm not a military. expert but my humble view is that those retreats, as you call them, they are very incremental and the cost for the russians much higher so i would not really use this retreat to support the nepotistic narrative that we increasingly face every day. it's not defeatist to look at the cold at what is going on on on the ground. for every shale the ukrainians fire, the
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russians fire 8—10. outgunned and out manned as well. and this is a situation that appears to worsen by week. that mi . ht appears to worsen by week. that miaht be appears to worsen by week. that might be true — appears to worsen by week. that might be true and _ appears to worsen by week. twat might be true and perhaps is true but... might be true and perhaps is true but- - -— true but... well it isn't really perhaps, - true but... well it isn't really perhaps, is - true but... well it isn't really perhaps, is it? l true but... well it isn't i really perhaps, is it? you true but... well it isn't - really perhaps, is it? you need to front up with your people in the world the fact that you don't have the men and ammunition to match the russian forces in the front line. nevertheless, we have managed to stop the invasions so you should not undermine this spirit of the ukrainian soldiers, no matter how the numbers are looking on the front line.— front line. it's how ukraine deals with _
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front line. it's how ukraine deals with the _ front line. it's how ukraine deals with the realities. it | front line. it's how ukraine. deals with the realities. it is interesting that the president has chosen to replace the chief of the army at this particular time and it seems like he was angered by one of his generals saying that the war had reached a stalemate. why would that be so infuriating. the a stalemate. why would that be so infuriating.— so infuriating. the purposes of m “ob, so infuriating. the purposes of my job. i _ so infuriating. the purposes of my job. i see _ so infuriating. the purposes of my job. i see it _ so infuriating. the purposes of my job, i see it as _ so infuriating. the purposes of my job, i see it as the - myjob, i see it as the constitutional right of the precedent. and i think that the whole body of the army should work holistically and they should be total synergy between the defence and the other parts of the army. the defence and the other parts of the army-— of the army. your chief backer, the us, of the army. your chief backer, the us, is _ of the army. your chief backer, the us. is no —
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of the army. your chief backer, the us, is no longer— of the army. your chief backer, the us, is no longer giving - of the army. your chief backer, the us, is no longer giving you | the us, is no longer giving you what you need. do you feel betrayed by the united states? i have very complex feelings. when i speak to the us ambassadorfor the united ambassador for the united nations and ambassadorfor the united nations and a member of the cabinet for president biden so i see how she personally is dedicated to do everything possible to help ukraine. and, in fact... ~ , , . possible to help ukraine. and, in fact- - -_ in fact... with respect, and ambassadors _ in fact... with respect, and ambassadors feelings - in fact... with respect, and| ambassadors feelings aren't relevant. i5 ambassadors feelings aren't relevant. , , , relevant. is still very
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important. _ relevant. is still very important. she - relevant. is still very important. she can l relevant. is still very - important. she can make personal inputs into discussions. based around other conflicts top discussions. based around other conflicts to— conflicts top when i asked you if ou conflicts top when i asked you if you are _ conflicts top when i asked you if you are betrayed, _ conflicts top when i asked you if you are betrayed, you - if you are betrayed, you paused, he tried to find some words, perhaps you are betrayed?— words, perhaps you are betrayed? no, i am very anxious. _ betrayed? no, i am very anxious, and _ betrayed? no, i am very anxious, and frustrated l betrayed? no, i am very i anxious, and frustrated as betrayed? no, i am very - anxious, and frustrated as many people are but that would be quite a stretch to say at this point that i am betrayed. the biden administration is hoping against hope that the legislation will change so that $60 billion of new assistance to ukraine could appear. it's
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in the senate right now. it may emerge from the senate, get to the house and fail or get to the house and fail or get to the house and some sort of agreement may be found but it could take weeks. every single day, ukraine is falling short of ammunition, new supplies. i can quote you a host of republicans in the senate and the house of representatives who are adamant that the united states should send no more money to ukraine. extreme trump supporters within the republican party. calling the idea of spending money to help ukraine as "sick." i idea of spending money to help ukraine as "sick."— ukraine as "sick." i regret, although — ukraine as "sick." i regret, although i'm _ ukraine as "sick." i regret, although i'm not _ ukraine as "sick." i regret, although i'm not ukraine's| although i'm not ukraine's
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ambassador, it is a shame they go against the intrinsic national support of this country. it's not the first case in my political history where the minority voices, the most loud voices has control leveraged in decision—making so i don't find it exceptionally unusual. i don't find it exceptionally unusual-— i don't find it exceptionally unusual. ., ~ ., ., ., unusual. you know what some of the republicans _ unusual. you know what some of the republicans say _ unusual. you know what some of the republicans say about - unusual. you know what some of the republicans say about the i the republicans say about the money that's been spent, they say that much of the money ends up say that much of the money ends up in corrupt hands that it is been siphoned off and then base site reports from inside the
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ukrainian government, saying that an audit had uncovered a $260 million siphoning. they are branding your government is corrupt. t are branding your government is corru t. ., are branding your government is corrut. ., , , corrupt. i would say she is unaware _ corrupt. i would say she is unaware of _ corrupt. i would say she is unaware of where - corrupt. i would say she is unaware of where the - corrupt. i would say she is - unaware of where the majority of the money goes. most of it stays in the united states. it's factually, and politically incorrect. in the midwest, where the military industrial complex produces the weapons. white make it easy to focus on those who are blocking funding right now from the trump wing of the republican party but when you assess the biden's administration approach, do you sense that there is a backing off from ukraine from some of
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the senior advisers around joe biden. they say that when he was defending the ukraine's interests of that we would be with you some as it takes. do you think this second—guessing? i'm not in washington to see, to have this assessment, so you need to talk to those people directly. i think that the discussions inside the administration of very intense but i do not believe that this nation as a nation and the government are backing away from ukraine.— from ukraine. lets talk about the economic _ from ukraine. lets talk about the economic squeeze - from ukraine. lets talk about the economic squeeze that i from ukraine. lets talk about | the economic squeeze that the west said it would put upon russia to the point of crippling the russian economy. you talk to your ambassador colleagues from various different parts of this western
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alliance, in europe, in asia, wherever. are you satisfied with the measures that have been taken to isolate... ihla. been taken to isolate... no, i'm not satisfied, _ been taken to isolate... no, i'm not satisfied, i'm - been taken to isolate... no, i'm not satisfied, i'm not. been taken to isolate... no, i'm not satisfied, i'm not even satisfied with the culpable responsibility. when it comes to cases such as the sanctions which were approved by the security council on north korea because the united nations... referring to sanctions concerning arms trade? the russian ambassador who categorically denied there was any evidence that russia was being armed by north korea. i’m being armed by north korea. i'm not auoin being armed by north korea. i�*m not going to dignify his uncommon balderdash. as a
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matter of fact, the security council failed and the united nations system failed in their decisions when it comes to the transfer of weapons and technologies between iran and russia, between north korea and russia, between north korea and russia so we are not satisfied. we can see the european trade with potential third countries you trade a great deal with russia has increased massively. i'm thinking of the car trade between germany and a country like kazakhstan.— like kazakhstan. kurdistan. there's been _ like kazakhstan. kurdistan. there's been a _ like kazakhstan. kurdistan. there's been a 50096 - like kazakhstan. kurdistan. i there's been a 500% increase like kazakhstan. kurdistan. - there's been a 50096 increase in there's been a 500% increase in buying mercedes—benz and bmws. it seems some countries are
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allowing russia to bypass certain countries. i allowing russia to bypass certain countries.- allowing russia to bypass certain countries. i can't say we are not _ certain countries. i can't say we are not being _ certain countries. i can't say we are not being listened i certain countries. i can't say we are not being listened toj certain countries. i can't say i we are not being listened to or not being heard what i am saying is as though sanctions are not as efficient as everyone wished them to be. 0r everyone wished them to be. or as we were promised. you are right, the volume of trade in the russian federation skyrocketed. and those figures, well, you can see that. logic and —— logic and common sense can see this. and -- logic and common sense can see this-— can see this. engagement has been affected _
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can see this. engagement has been affected by _ can see this. engagement has been affected by the - can see this. engagement has been affected by the world's l been affected by the world's attention focusing on the conflict in gaza over the last three months. has it affected the way in which ukraine gets its message across? it affected it. let's its message across? it affected it- let's go _ its message across? it affected it. let's go back— its message across? it affected it. let's go back to _ its message across? it affected it. let's go back to 2022 - its message across? it affected it. let's go back to 2022 for - it. let's go back to 2022 for example and see how the work in ukraine hijacked attention from other conflicts. when the war started and full—scale russians went into ukraine, how many of them? it has affected but what is very important is that we are not in competition for their attention.
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are not in competition for theirattention. it's are not in competition for their attention. it's a response to the intrinsic need of ukraine that the middle east is contained and does not spill over. , ., , , ., ., , over. the problem is that many --eole over. the problem is that many people across _ over. the problem is that many people across the _ over. the problem is that many people across the world - over. the problem is that many people across the world and i people across the world and you've talked to colleagues in the so—called global sales as well as your western departments, many see the exposure of a profound double standard when it comes to the western response to russia's military invasion and occupation of territory in ukraine compared with a western reaction to the prolonged israeli occupation of lands which the palestinians claim for themselves. two different forms of occupation and two very different forms of response. i very different forms of response-— very different forms of resonse. ., ., , response. i would not put neither the _ response. i would not put neither the etymology - response. i would not put| neither the etymology and history of those two conflicts in the same basket. they are
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very distinct and their rates are very different. yellow may come asking you if colleagues particularly in the global spouse are saying there's a real problem here and a problem being taken seriously, and the west and its subsistence and holding international law, crisis in one conflict but not so much in the other. the thing is that the _ so much in the other. the thing is that the west _ so much in the other. the thing is that the west is _ so much in the other. the thing is that the west is not - so much in the other. the thing is that the west is not as - is that the west is not as united on gaza as the west is united on gaza as the west is united on gaza as the west is united on ukraine. because when you see the difference in the position, for example, of barriers in various cities such as paris and london. i want it back to ukraine itself. we talked a little bit
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about the president's decision to replace the leader of the armed forces. the idea was to find new approaches the generalship must be reset. the army's action needs to become more technologically advanced. what is a new approach do you think chris? taste what is a new approach do you think chris?— think chris? we need new tactics, planning - think chris? we need new tactics, planning and - tactics, planning and operations. if we have much limited human resources, then
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the russians will have a technological superiority. there was another decree and decision by the president to establish a new branch for armed forces, specifically, dealing with uavs.- armed forces, specifically, dealing with uavs. that's the military prospect. _ dealing with uavs. that's the military prospect. what - dealing with uavs. that's the | military prospect. what about the political outlook. i see the political outlook. i see the president's approval ratings have beans nipping dramatically. trust has been down from what it was but trust in the military sky high. it is less about strategic considerations or about political emotions. i
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considerations or about political emotions. i think the - resident political emotions. i think the president of _ political emotions. i think the president of the _ political emotions. i think the president of the ukraine - political emotions. i think the president of the ukraine fully| president of the ukraine fully realises the responsibility for his actions and i don't think thatis his actions and i don't think that is the time to approach that is the time to approach that time of issues through politics. it's a decision based on profound analysis to maintain the unity of all branches.— maintain the unity of all branches. �* , ., , branches. always do end. they and when _ branches. always do end. they and when the _ branches. always do end. they and when the parties _ branches. always do end. they and when the parties decide. l and when the parties decide. now, the russian ambassador told me that the russians are ready to talk but a law has been passed to stop the ukrainian government from speaking to vladimir putin. would you recognise that
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ukraine will have to talk. imagine, the russian side accepts the principles that the general assembly in february 2023, the principles of sustainable. even the russian side accepts that. the authority we are talking to can deliver. , ., authority we are talking to can deliver. ,., , ., ., deliver. the point is that at some juncture _ deliver. the point is that at some juncture ukraine - deliver. the point is that at some juncture ukraine will| some juncture ukraine will probably have to abandon its maximalist position that there can be no peace until every inch of ukrainian territory has
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been restored. but of course including crimea. is there an acceptance? does that maximalist position may have to be adapted? i maximalist position may have to be adapted?— be adapted? i think it's not a maximalist _ be adapted? i think it's not a maximalist position. - be adapted? i think it's not a maximalist position. i- be adapted? i think it's not a maximalist position. i think i maximalist position. i think the polls you refer to support the polls you refer to support the premise that no peace at the premise that no peace at the cost of territorial concessions and it doesn't mean whole territories can be liberated. but, idon't whole territories can be liberated. but, i don't think any serious politician in ukraine can survive if he or she proposes territorial positions. she proposes territorial positions-— she proposes territorial ositions. ., ., positions. you're a diplomat based in _ positions. you're a diplomat based in the _ positions. you're a diplomat based in the united - positions. you're a diplomat based in the united states. | positions. you're a diplomat i based in the united states. we don't know what will happen in november but we do already that
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donald trump it seems will be representing the republican party. he may force the president into a compromised piece with vladimir putin. there is a politicalfeeling that ukraine will have to face difficult decisions. i that ukraine will have to face difficult decisions.— difficult decisions. i live in new york _ difficult decisions. i live in new york and _ difficult decisions. i live in new york and the - difficult decisions. i live inj new york and the weather changes from —5 to plus 15 within 26 hours, so the winds are not... the principles can change for us and there is a way that trump can force an
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individual, has no means to force an entire nation in the nation has made a choice. the nation has made a choice. the nation is fighting for freedom and it's not up to the foreign presidents and prime ministers to tell the ukrainian nation how to build. of course it is the choice of the americans to elect their leadership but it's not the choice of the americans or whoever to tell the nation how to go ahead. and so far, the nation of ukraine is very brave, is spilling its blood for the choices it has made. we have to end _ for the choices it has made. - have to end there.
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hello. we had a sunny start to the week, but tuesday is going to be very different for many of us. extensive cloud, outbreaks of rain and drizzle, but it is going to be relatively mild, and indeed this is the outlook for the next few days. now, let's have a look at the big picture across our neck of the woods. weather systems gently streaming in from the southwest and the jet stream is generally just to the south of us. so the air hasn't been all that mild over the uk. but in the next few days we will see these warmer air masses streaming in almost from the subtropics. so temperatures are expected to rise, of course, not to subtropical values, but it will be milder. anyway, here's the early
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morning forecast, then. some wintry showers in scotland, pretty chilly as well, with a touch of frost in the highlands. and then the further south you are, the less cold it'll be in the morning. so around, say five or six degrees celsius in the south of england. tuesday's weather map shows this weather front approaching. it's a warm front. so behind it, we've got that warmer air streaming in pretty much from the azores. and that means extensive cloud across many parts of south western britain initially, then that weather front will basically move sort of north and eastwards through the course of the day. outbreaks of rain will come and go. almost impossible to say at what time. it's just going to be a pretty overcast and dreary day across the bulk of the uk apart from scotland here. in fact, some sunshine and a little bit colder. and then into wednesday it looks as though that weather front will move a little bit further north into scotland. so yes, clouds will increase eventually later in the day on wednesday in southern scotland, eventually the lowlands, too. but to the south, itjust stays cloudy, rainy.
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you can see the winds are coming in out of the southwest, not particularly strong, but noticeable on coasts. and look at these temperatures, up to 16 degrees in yorkshire, still a little bit colder the other side of the weather front in scotland and the northern isles. you can see that slightly colder air there just in the north of the uk. and then the outlook, so this is really for the rest of the week into the weekend, and even into next week. it's a general trend here for these milder air masses to sweep in off the atlantic. so pretty stable temperatures, maybe as high as 16, but generally around 13 or 16 in the south of the country. closer to single figures, around average, in the north of the uk. bye— bye.
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live from london. this is bbc news. president biden urges israel not to carry out a big assault into rafah — where more than a million palestinians have been displaced. he says they need to be protected. labour suspends its rochdale by—election candidate, azhar ali, as more details emerge about the comments he made about israel.
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the german chancellor calls for a massive increase in the european production of armaments. and in rio dejaneiro, the celebrations continue as the final parade of the carnival takes place. hello, i'm mark lobel. president biden has appealed for the more thani million palestinians sheltering in rafah, in the southern gaza strip, to be protected, once again urging israel not to carry out a big assault without a credible plan for the safety of civilians. he was speaking after meeting thejordanian monarch, king abdullah, in washington. the king has repeatedly pushed for a full truce to end the conflict that started when hamas attacked israel on october 7th. on monday morning, a series of israeli airstrikes there killed
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at least 70 people, with israel warning ofan impending ground offensive.

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