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yes, we have released separately. yes, we have devolved governments _ released separately. yes, we have devolved governments in - released separately. yes, we have devolved governments in the - released separately. yes, we have i devolved governments in the united kingdom and they are now going to have to work together with westminster to try and resolve this crisis. the uk treasury has said they will do what it takes to fund the repairs but it is not exactly clear how that will work at the moment. now scotland's list is out, we await england's list, which we have been waiting for for a little while. the fact that scotland's list has been published will put pressure on the government here in westminster to get their list ready. westminster to get their list ready. we know it is supposed to be around 150 schools potentially affected. it is notjust seeing that list of schools which people want to see in the name of transparency, but it is also the numbers. we will be looking to see whether it is the 150, whether it is more than had been
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expected and then i think as well for rishi sunak, will he want to try and get that list out before prime minister questions? he doesn't have long left if you want to do that, 45 minutes away, to say, we have published a list, full transparency is there, notjust for those holding him to account but of course for parents and local communities as well. ,. ,, parents and local communities as well. , ~ , , ~ parents and local communities as well. h , , . , parents and local communities as well. h ,, .,., well. this crisis which is now emerging — well. this crisis which is now emerging dates _ well. this crisis which is now emerging dates back - well. this crisis which is now emerging dates back right i well. this crisis which is now| emerging dates back right to well. this crisis which is now - emerging dates back right to 2010 so there is plenty for a neighbour to pick upon, she did which to do so in the commons, which is in less than 45 minutes. it the commons, which is in less than 45 minutes-— 45 minutes. it dates back before that. concerns _ 45 minutes. it dates back before that. concerns about _ 45 minutes. it dates back before that. concerns about this - 45 minutes. it dates back before that. concerns about this type i 45 minutes. it dates back before i that. concerns about this type of concrete have been known for a long time, since the 905. something that has been put to labour today is that safety concerns around it where
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there when labour wa5 safety concerns around it where there when labour was in power as well. i think labour are less keen to talk about that period, much keener to talk about the period in which the coalition government back in 2010 was in power and the conservatives have been in power as well but certainly, thi5 conservatives have been in power as well but certainly, this problem and the safety concerns around it have been present for a very long time. what 5eem5 been present for a very long time. what seems to have happened though in recent years is more and more 5afety in recent years is more and more safety concerns have been raised and a5 safety concerns have been raised and as we were discussing earlier, there was an incident over the summer with some kind of collapse in a building in england. the government says there was new information and the secretary of state in charge of all of this took what has been seen as a cautious decision to close buildings where there might be any kind of safety concerns in order to protect the safety of children. the timing of course of this has been pretty appalling for the conservative government because not only is it
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back to school here in westminster and rishi sunak�*s prime minister's questions since that, it is going to be dominated by this issue but of course as well, september is when kids head back to school as well and some of them are not being able to do that because of this problem so the timing has been really difficult. but of course comes off the back of the covid—i9 crisis where for a long time, children were kept out of school and the government faced criticism for how they handled that there has been this emphasis to try to get children backin this emphasis to try to get children back in the classroom in order to properly continue their learning. what the conservatives keep saying is, this is actually a minority of schools affected. we are not talking about half the country not being able to go to school at the moment but nevertheless, of course for those parents and children and communities where this is happening in the uk, it is a huge issue for them. ~ , . ., ., them. we might expect to hear some kind of ian them. we might expect to hear some kind of plan of— them. we might expect to hear some kind of plan of action, _ them. we might expect to hear some kind of plan of action, whether- them. we might expect to hear some kind of plan of action, whether it - kind of plan of action, whether it is possible to examine all of these schools to see whether they are
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indeed unsafe and whether the structural integrity of this concrete has been undermined over time through exposure to moisture and so on? i time through exposure to moisture and so on? ~ , , time through exposure to moisture and so on?— and so on? i think this list that ma be and so on? i think this list that maybe we _ and so on? i think this list that maybe we will— and so on? i think this list that maybe we will get _ and so on? i think this list that maybe we will get at _ and so on? i think this list that maybe we will get at some - and so on? i think this list that i maybe we will get at some point today, that will be interesting to see how much detail it has on it. will it say, here at the list of schools affected, will it give details about whether they are closed, partially closed or whether it is just one room closed, partially closed or whether it isjust one room or closed, partially closed or whether it is just one room or classroom for example, and what action is being taken. the government says action is being taken for many of these schools to try and fix the problems quickly but you are right, this is a computed issue that they are going to have to be looking at four schools and one that may expand beyond schools as well and into other further public buildings with this widely used material. there have been safety concerns dating back now a decade —— to kids but
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this has come to a head in the last week and terrible timing for rishi sunak because it is notjust the start of the school season and the parliamentary season but we will soon be heading into conference season as well and any party leader, whether it is labour, the lib dems, the conservatives, when they're heading into a party conference, of course they want to be riding high and be able to show that they are chopping up political successes and this certainly has not been a politically successful few days for rishi sunak on this particular subject because he has been under a lot of scrutiny along with his figures in his government. i’m lot of scrutiny along with his figures in his government. i'm 'ust auoin to figures in his government. i'm 'ust going to go — figures in his government. i'm 'ust going to go through, i figures in his government. i'm 'ust going to go through, for�* figures in his government. i'm 'ust going to go through, for the h figures in his government. i'm justl going to go through, for the benefit of our viewers, the list again that we have seen released from the scottish schools. we have 30 scottish schools. we have 30 scottish schools. we have 30 scottish schools which are on this list which have this so—called concrete and are therefore affected by these concerns.
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reading out that list puts a question into one's mind, if these schools are trying to set up some kind of temporary class facilities for the children, there will be a lot of schools looking for exactly the same resources the same time? yes and it will create disruption of course for children's learning moving them into a new space or maybe doing some learning from home as well. the conservative government have been really trying to say, that is not go into a narrative that is going to create any kind of panic in local communities amongst parents as well but of course, it is worrying for parents to hear that some part
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of a school building that their child goes to may not actually be safe, and at risk of collapse. that is something that is rarely going to wear —— wary parents. they will want to see measures taken to keep their kids safe but that will present lots of logistical issues for schools as they look to come up with measures in order to continue that learning. it is not clear at the moment exactly how long this is going to take to repair these buildings and make them safe. it is not clear either exactly how much it will cost. wejust either exactly how much it will cost. we just know the treasury have said they will do what it takes in order to make these repairs. it is one of those issues, isn't it, when it comes to school buildings, keeping children safe, that a government has to say that. i cannot say, we have limit on our budget. have got to come out politically, really, and say, of course we will do what it takes in order to make
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sure that these buildings are properly repaired and safe for children going into them. that is the kind of position that they have got themselves into now. but of course when i was mentioning it earlier, there are questions, and it is not quite clear yet, i think, but there are questions whether the secretary of state julian there are questions whether the secretary of statejulian keegan has been on charge of olive this might have, and as i say, we will see how the weeks developed, overreacted and been too cautious about this, and thatis been too cautious about this, and that is now spinning out of control as other departments, whether it is those in charge of courthouses, those in charge of courthouses, those in charge of hospitals, might have to also take mitigation measures as well as a result of this. �* , , ., measures as well as a result of this. a ., ., this. as you say, there are other buildings. _ this. as you say, there are other buildings, too, _ this. as you say, there are other buildings, too, and _ this. as you say, there are other buildings, too, and this - this. as you say, there are other buildings, too, and this is - buildings, too, and this is something that could go on for some time. just to give you a summary, we are expecting prime minister's questions injust over are expecting prime minister's questions in just over half—an—hour now, where we will see the prime
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minister grilled on the subject of these schools that have been forced to close temporarily, or indeed partially, because of concerns over the concrete, raac. this is bbc news, now we to the weather. in the last century, they have been only four occasions where the highest tempter of the year has occurred in september. either today or tomorrow, we could make that a fifth time. 32.2 celsius is the highest amateur so far this year, recorded injune. today however, we could get around to 32 celsius and the same again tomorrow. because we have high pressure sitting across northern europe, around the fringes, the storm producing the flooding in greece, this low—pressure out to the west is what is helping to draw the humid air our way with a southerly wind. breezy at times in parts of scotland. mist an luke cloud in shetland. there could be some sea
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fog through the roc. that will limit the temperature rise is areas but for most, 26 in scotland and northern ireland, 28 and 29 in wales and may be up to 32 in the south—east corner. what will follow will be a very humid night. luke cloud in these eastern coasts again but in the west, around the southwest of england, wales and eventually the isle of man, a small chance of one or two heavy and thundershowers. most will be dry and temperatures not much lower, around 15 to 19 degrees as we start. no cloud to the eastern counties of england and eventually scotland later in the day. more cloud with a chance of some showers around the irish sea into northern ireland and scotland. the odd rumble of thunder with those but many of you will still stay dry and if anything, increased unity and highest starting temperature, it could be hotter tomorrow. that heat and those overnight showers in the north and
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west, more mist and no fog to begin with on friday and it will linger around the coasts of the north sea and around parts of the irish sea. isolated showers possible in scotland and northern ireland but for most from staying dry and hot. how long will this melt last? bring an unwelcome into the weekend, but we started see changes in scotland and northern ireland as low—pressure edges its way in and a more widespread breakdown as we go through into the middle part of next week. certainly through this weekend, still pretty warm out there even though the showers structure developed in scotland and northern ireland. hot and developed in scotland and northern ireland. hotand humid in england and wales and then the showers more widespread.
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heading higher — more production cuts from russia and saudi arabia push global oil prices above $90 a barrel. and, we take a look at how artificial intelligence is affecting the world of cybersecurity — as darktrace announces its annual results. welcome to world business report. oil prices are back on the up. for the first time since november, the cost of oil has risen above $90 a barrel on global markets.
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it was driven higher after saudi arabia and russia said they'd extend their production cuts until the end of the year. saudi arabia has cut a million barrels a day from global supplies since july. it's been enough to stoke more inflation fears and will frustrate governments trying to keep fuel prices down. from riyadh, energy analyst cornelia meyer told us saudi's decision to prolong its output cut is a surprise. i was expecting a rollover for the month of october, but i was not expecting until the end of the year, and it shows the kingdom's determination in levelling out prices. it also, it is interesting you saw russia go hand with a 300,000 cut. the kingdom has exported last month as little
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as 6 million barrels a day, which is the last time they did that was towards the end of autumn 2021, when we were still in the thrall of the corona crisis. you see there on the screen brent just dipping below $90. now, it was hailed as a shining light of uk tech after successfully floating on the stock market about two and half years ago. it's been positioning itself as a potential big hitter in the us—dominated cybersecurity sector. but this year, shares in darktrace slumped after warning that new customer sign—ups were slowing and concerns were raised about its accounts. well, it's just released its latest results, so let's speak to beth maundrill, editor of infosecurity magazine. it looks like a big lift in profits so far. what is the story behind
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this firm? we so far. what is the story behind this firm? ~ . so far. what is the story behind this firm?— so far. what is the story behind thisfirm? ., ., _ , so far. what is the story behind this firm? ~ ., ., , , , this firm? we are obviously seen 31% ear on this firm? we are obviously seen 3196 year on year — this firm? we are obviously seen 3196 year on year growth _ this firm? we are obviously seen 3196 year on year growth reported - this firm? we are obviously seen 3196 year on year growth reported by - year on year growth reported by darktrace today, which is a huge increase. the cyber security landscape is ever evolving and organisations are looking for a new tech all the time to deal with the threat actors that are attacking them daily, and that global businesses as well. the company has also reported over 1000 new customers, and in that the information they share to date they highlighted some of their big customers, including royal caribbean. you can see customers coming to them despite some of the issues that you mention in your introduction there. i issues that you mention in your introduction there.— issues that you mention in your introduction there. i wonder if we look at the _ introduction there. i wonder if we look at the sector _ introduction there. i wonder if we look at the sector as _ introduction there. i wonder if we look at the sector as a _ introduction there. i wonder if we look at the sector as a whole, - introduction there. i wonder if we | look at the sector as a whole, how much of a threat does ai pose to security online? bi much of a threat does ai pose to security online?— security online? ai has been the talk of cyber _ security online? ai has been the talk of cyber security _ security online? ai has been the talk of cyber security for - security online? ai has been the talk of cyber security for 2023, i security online? ai has been the i talk of cyber security for 2023, for sure. what we are saying is that threat actors are developing tools
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based on genitive ai that are helping them create convincing fishing e—mails. i'm sure a lot of people are told you can spot a fishing e—mail by bad grammar. that is no longer the case. it is a game of cat and mouse. when there is new technology being developed, it is inevitable that threat actors would use it to their own benefit to make their operations more efficient, because they act as businesses as well. is because they act as businesses as well. , ., ., , because they act as businesses as well. , . ._ ., .., well. is there a way that we can harness the _ well. is there a way that we can harness the power _ well. is there a way that we can harness the power of _ well. is there a way that we can harness the power of ai - well. is there a way that we can harness the power of ai for - well. is there a way that we can l harness the power of ai for good, well. is there a way that we can - harness the power of ai for good, to tackle that risk itself?— tackle that risk itself? darktrace is amona tackle that risk itself? darktrace is among many _ tackle that risk itself? darktrace is among many companies - tackle that risk itself? darktrace is among many companies on i tackle that risk itself? darktrace| is among many companies on the tackle that risk itself? darktrace - is among many companies on the cyber security market today that are offering ai elements to their cyber security tools. i think that everyone knows that is darktrace's nine selling point, that over the last ten years they have built their
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toolset on the back of ai. it is something that cyber security pros are already using and familiar with. it isjust making are already using and familiar with. it is just making sure that we keep pace of those actors because it is an ever evolving landscape. we say over and over again, an ever evolving landscape. we say overand overagain, but an ever evolving landscape. we say over and over again, but it is changing really rapidly, so it is just keeping up with the pace of change. but ai is definitely a cyber security professionals have in their toolkit. , ., , ., , toolkit. interesting to see how this will -la toolkit. interesting to see how this will play out- _ british lawmakers have accused the government of being slow to recover more than a £1 billion lost to fraudulent or incorrect grants given to businesses during the pandemic. three years on, less than 2% of the money has been recouped. the government said it was working with local councils to recover the erroneous payments. our economics correspondent, andy verity, explains how the money went missing. the amount lost due to fraud and error is about £1.1 billion, according to the public accounts committee, who had been looking
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into this for months. we need to cast our minds back to the situation back in march 2020, now three and a half years ago, when the onset of the pandemic meant governments had to put the economies in lockdown and therefore businesses weren't getting the income they needed in order to pay wages. there was a threat that millions of businesses might go under. and of the huge support that the government gave at that time, there was notjust the furlough scheme, for example, but there were also grants administered by local authorities. because there was a fear that so many businesses fell over, speed was prioritised over the normal antifraud controls. you cannot be bothered with all the normal underwriting if you need to get that money out by the day, by the week. so, there were 20 people looking after this at the department for business enterprise and innovation and skills at the time, just 20 people throwing money out there. for example, there was £6 billion distributed in just the first few weeks via local authorities,
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but there are problems which we now know about, for example, the local authorities's databases were out of date. so sometimes that money went to businesses that didn't exist or to accounts that businesses no longer had, or to businesses that were receiving the money on a fraudulent basis. and what the mp5 are slightly bothered about here is the fact that here we are, three and a half years after these schemes began, and the amount lost to fraud that has been recovered isjust over £20 million. so, barely 2% of what has been lost. rising interest rates and the cost of living crisis has taken a dent out of profits at the house—builder, barratt. the firm said rising costs are making it harderfor people to afford its houses. it built 700 fewer new homes in the last year, although it did complete over 17,000 new properties. pre—tax profits rose, but after one—off costs, profit for the year fell 10% decline compared to the year before. let's hear now from tom bill, head of uk residential
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research at knight frank. it is probably no surprise. we are all feeling the squeeze, so we are thinking, hang on, iwon't all feeling the squeeze, so we are thinking, hang on, i won't buy that new house. i thinking, hang on, i won't buy that new house-— new house. i think that's right, i think the house-builders - new house. i think that's right, i think the house-builders are - new house. i think that's right, i - think the house-builders are feeling think the house—builders are feeling it, ithink think the house—builders are feeling it, i think in buying, selling, remortgaging is feeling it. given what has happened over the last 12 months many people are just a shellshocked at what effectively has been strapped into a row in terms of getting back to normality. everybody knew that interest rates couldn't stay near to zero. the iii years we had were the exception rather than the rule. it has been a tumultuous 12 months. the rule. it has been a tumultuous 12 months-— the rule. it has been a tumultuous 12 months. �* . , . ., 12 months. are we anywhere closer to somethin: 12 months. are we anywhere closer to something a — 12 months. are we anywhere closer to something a little _ 12 months. are we anywhere closer to something a little more _ 12 months. are we anywhere closer to something a little more normal- 12 months. are we anywhere closer to something a little more normal now? | something a little more normal now? we the housing market is dominated by perception, it is how we feel. if we are a bit more confident that interest rates may have peaked, a bit more confident that prices are not going to fall particularly
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shortly, do people come back to the market? ~ , , ., , shoi�*tly. do people come back to the market? ~ , , ., , ~ , market? absolutely, that is the key. it is driven by _ market? absolutely, that is the key. it is driven by sentiment. _ market? absolutely, that is the key. it is driven by sentiment. the - it is driven by sentiment. the economic data coming out around inflation, around what the bank of england will do next, has been pretty inconclusive over the summer. people are waiting for the light at the end of the eternal moment and that hasn't really come, it still feels like we are in the middle of the tunnel. there is a glimmer of light at the end of it, it is coming, it is getting closer, but we are not quite there yet. when it comes, i think that will be the key and that is what will improve sentiment. given what has happened to mortgage rates more generally, we are not going to see the market firing on all cylinders. next year... at the moment i think we are in a bit of a lull waiting for a bit of better news.— in a bit of a lull waiting for a bit of better news. what is it mean for eo - le of better news. what is it mean for people like — of better news. what is it mean for people like you? — of better news. what is it mean for people like you? are _ of better news. what is it mean for people like you? are you _ of better news. what is it mean for people like you? are you having i of better news. what is it mean for people like you? are you having to| people like you? are you having to work much harder to sell houses? i
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think at the moment transaction volumes are down, i think buyers are more circumspect, there are probably more circumspect, there are probably more viewings to exchanges and offers. i think the market is stickier. it is plodding along, it is by no means on its knees or in a terrible state. but it is very modest compared to what we saw during the pandemic and the highs of the stamp duty holiday. it is ticking along quite quietly. the economic picture should start to pick up by next year, but by that time of course we could start to see election fever begin to rise, and that presents a whole set of other uncertainties and challenges. does feel like there's _ uncertainties and challenges. does feel like there's always _ uncertainties and challenges. does feel like there's always something to keep you on your toes. good to have you with us, thank you very much. much more on those stories on the bbc website.
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we are going to talk about new york. airbnb has changed the way people travel. it was originally designed to let people rent out spare rooms to visitors or travellers. but it's been accused of inflating rents, pricing out locals and changing entire neighbourhoods. traditional hotels haven't been too happy either. now new york city is to enforce strict new laws to limit such rentals. it's angered those who rent out rooms, or whole apartments, but tenants and community groups say it could ease the city's housing problem. nada tawfik is in new york and explains what's changing. airbnb has called this law a de facto ban on short—term rentals in new york. thousands of bookings across various sites, notjust airbnb, will no longer be able to offer stays of less than 30 days unless property owners have registered with the mayor's office. so, whereas last month, for example, airbnb estimated that there were 15,000 hosts with active listings for those short—term stays, while only 260 registration applications have been approved by the city so far. and those new restrictions are things like hosts must be
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physically present during the stay, and no more than two guests are permitted at a time. now, those who do not follow the new rules could be fined up to $5000. and for those wondering what this means for them, well, airbnb's existing reservations for stays that start after december 2 will be cancelled and guests will receive refunds. new york is just the latest in a series of cities that have enacted strict regulations, and revenue from the big apple makes up barely 1% of the company's $8.4 billion annual revenue, so experts say this won't drastically impact airbnb. if you want to reach me online —
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i'm @benthompsontv. we arejust keeping we are just keeping you up—to—date with the schools crisis and the raac concrete related concerns, and those schools which are affected by it. on the bbc website we first of all the saw 30 schools from scotland affected by this particular concern, and we have now got a list of schools in another part of the uk, which is england. 104 schools listed in england. 30 in scotland, 104 schools have been listed in england is being affected by reinforce
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autoclaved aerated concrete, the lightweight material at risk, we think, of dangerous collapse. we are soon going to be going to the commons. it is prime ministers question time injust commons. it is prime ministers question time in just over 15 minutes, where the prime minister will be facing questions concerning the decision to keep some schools closed and how the schoolchildren children affected by that will be dealt with the checking of the skills and so on, and why this crisis has particularly come to the fore now. primary is going to be the funding of schools, not education itself, but the renovation and maintenance of schools and cuts in funding is relating to that. on your screen you can see the bbc live page, and we are showing the list of schools. if you would like to see the full list, please go to the bbc live page. we arejust
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the full list, please go to the bbc live page. we are just showing shots of the comments, but the prime minister is not yet on his feet. jess parker are from westminster. we now have a list of 104 schools in england? we now have a list of 104 schools in encland? ~ . , ., ., england? we have been waiting for this list for a _ england? we have been waiting for this list for a couple _ england? we have been waiting for this list for a couple of _ england? we have been waiting for this list for a couple of days. - england? we have been waiting for this list for a couple of days. we i this list for a couple of days. we knew it was coming for england, we got one for scotland earlier. just reading through this list, it is quite interesting. it lays out that different schools are having to take different schools are having to take different measures. a lot of schools on this list affected by the concrete crisis, all the pupils are in the face—to—face education. that might be if example, if one particular room has been deemed unsafe, no bee that is out obvious but it does not affected by the operation of the school. a lot of the schools looking through the slits are contained to do that.
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however, it does quite clearly say that the start of term has been delayed for some of them. sent and raised in your school, our lady's catholic high school, outwards primary school — i won't go through all of them. but according to this list the start of term has been delayed. forthose list the start of term has been delayed. for those schools, those communities, children and parents, thatis communities, children and parents, that is going to be extremely disruptive. it is not the majority of cases here. that is one other category listed, where there is a mix of face—to—face and related arrangements. some kids are obviously coming into school and having that important face—to—face learning, and others are maybe having to do remote learning from school, as many children had to do during the covid pandemic. it does look as if a lot of the schools
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affected, all the people's are in face—to—face education, but there are other cases where you are seeing mixed remote and classroom learning, or at the start of school delayed. it is at the start of the school year, something that families build up year, something that families build up to four ages during the summer holidays. it is a really important moment for children, and for some children they have not been able to go back to the classroom at all. find go back to the classroom at all. and the scale of — go back to the classroom at all. and the scale of the _ go back to the classroom at all. and the scale of the problem means it will take some time and some degree of funding to fix? the will take some time and some degree of funding to fix?— of funding to fix? the treasury and the chancellor _ of funding to fix? the treasury and the chancellorjeremy _ of funding to fix? the treasury and the chancellorjeremy hunt - of funding to fix? the treasury and the chancellorjeremy hunt saying | the chancellorjeremy hunt saying they will do what it takes. really, they will do what it takes. really, they are going to have to say that. when it comes to the safety of children in publicly funded schools, clearly the government has to, and say, look, it is going to do what it needs to do in order to fix this problem and ensure that schools are
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safe for children. as we have been talking about this issue of rat concrete, it has been known about for a long time, even back in the 905. —— for a long time, even back in the 905. -- raac for a long time, even back in the 905. —— raac concrete. over the summer there was and incident were something collapse related to a raac concrete. the education secretary gillian keegan took this decision to close the skills or to have these ongoing inspections. we have the list for scotland and england, so the full picture is slowly coming to light. the full picture is slowly coming to liht. , the full picture is slowly coming to liuht. , ., , , light. loosely with ours, because prime minister's _ light. loosely with ours, because prime minister's questions - light. loosely with ours, because prime minister's questions time | light. loosely with ours, becausei prime minister's questions time is just starting in about 11 minutes. let's go told joe inwood joining us from the news room. information coming out on this fast and furious now? ~ , ,.. , coming out on this fast and furious now? absolutely, fast and furious. this is that — now? absolutely, fast and furious. this is that the _ now? absolutely, fast and furious.
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this is that the full _ now? absolutely, fast and furious. this is that the full list _ now? absolutely, fast and furious. this is that the full list that - now? absolutely, fast and furious. this is that the full list that has - this is that the full list that has just been published, all these skills that have had to close or alter their learning because of this problem. what is interesting is we don't have the details of exactly where they are. essex, for example, we found 26 already. but we are going to start going through this and pinpoint exactly where they are. firstly, i should say we have got 147 listed here, that is a few more than the government said had been affected. of those 147, 104 of them are still doing lessons face—to—face, so the majority of pupils are still in classes with no teachers, having lessons as normal, although they may be in some other building. fourof although they may be in some other building. four of them are fully remote, but all the lessons had been cancelled face—to—face and at their having to have them online, obviously something people got used to during the pandemic. that has been brought in the four four
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schools in england that we know about. 20 schools are doing a mix of the two. 19 schools have had to delay the start of term. these are children that are having to stay at home or not go to school for some period. 81 of these schools are primary schools, 59 secondary, and six of these numbers falling into another category. not everything is listed, we don't have geographical locations, for example, but we can see here the type of school. 98 of them are academy schools, 26 community, five foundation schools, and 14 are voluntary aided schools. we have not had a chance to crunch through the numbers of this data. but for now this is the information we can glean from this very long list of schools affected by raac.
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and it is important to emphasise that these schools in many cases are able to function. it is just that they are closing some classrooms and they are closing some classrooms and the children are affected in some way by et?_ the children are affected in some way by et?— the children are affected in some wa b , way by et? absolutely. to bring some reassurance — way by et? absolutely. to bring some reassurance to _ way by et? absolutely. to bring some reassurance to parents, _ way by et? absolutely. to bring some reassurance to parents, this - way by et? absolutely. to bring some reassurance to parents, this is - way by et? absolutely. to bring some reassurance to parents, this is not. reassurance to parents, this is not a huge list of schools that have had to shut down. 104 of these schools on this list are still face—to—face classes. forthe on this list are still face—to—face classes. for the most part, people are still able to go into the schools as they would have done beforehand. schools as they would have done beforehand-— schools as they would have done beforehand. ~ . , . ., beforehand. what might this all mean for prime minister's _ beforehand. what might this all mean for prime minister's questions? - for prime minister's questions? which is due to start now in under ten minutes. jess parker is waiting to explain all of that in westminster. it is going to be a very wide ranging discussion, one would imagine, because it is a political opportunity for labour. i
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think labour really going for this issue. prime minister's questions should start in nine minutes. we have had this list in the last ten minutes or so. it seems to me the government were quite keen to get this list up to four prime minister's questions so they can say, look, we have published the list, it is there for you to see. the context thatjoe inwood was just laying out, they will say it is there for you to see. the context thatjoe inwood was just laying out, they will say in most of these cases most pupils are in face—to—face learning, it is a minority were at the start of term has actually been delayed, and they have been transparent in all of that. i think the timing is quite an interesting and i think rishi sunak will use that to say, look, we are getting a grip of this crisis. the other thing thatis grip of this crisis. the other thing that is going to happen, notjust prime minister's questions today, as labour are also trying to push later in parliament for the publication of documents that might tell us more
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about what funding decisions were made back when rishi sunak was chancellor of the exchequer on education funding. they are really trying to push a narrative that rishi sunak himself my directly, the prime minister, has questions to answer. of course prime minister, has questions to answer. of course we prime minister, has questions to answer. of course we have that former civil servant recently who said the funding we had before for the refurbishment of schools had not been fully met by the chancellor at the time. the government at the time said 50 schools a year will be looked at, repair, refurbish, that they do take education funding extremely seriously, and this is a minority of schools that have been affected by this crisis. i think labour's effort, we have seen from the start of the day, is to try and really put pressure on the prime minister. interestingly, when keir starmer the labour leader was asked earlier exactly what you do in terms of the funding, which he restart the
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school funding programme that the conservative led coalition government cancelled back in 2010, he wasn't too clear on exactly what he wasn't too clear on exactly what he would do. but labour do you see this as an opportunity to put pressure on this government for the first prime minister's questions since parliament returned from the summer recess. it since parliament returned from the summer recess-— summer recess. it will no doubt be reassurin: summer recess. it will no doubt be reassuring as _ summer recess. it will no doubt be reassuring as the _ summer recess. it will no doubt be reassuring as the prime _ summer recess. it will no doubt be reassuring as the prime minister i reassuring as the prime minister walks into the commons that these schools, for the most part at least, are open. it isjust schools, for the most part at least, are open. it is just that some of the buildings are close, or some of the buildings are close, or some of the classrooms within them are close. .. ,. the classrooms within them are close. ,. . . , , close. each school will clearly be different in _ close. each school will clearly be different in terms _ close. each school will clearly be different in terms of— close. each school will clearly be different in terms of where - close. each school will clearly be j different in terms of where raac close. each school will clearly be - different in terms of where raac may have been found, and there for the scale of the issue will vary. clearly, the scale of the issue has been sufficient to see the start of term actually delayed. we were just discussing a moment ago some schools where there is a mix of face—to—face
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and remote arrangements going on, which of course for those children and parents is still going to be far from satisfactory. i havejust and parents is still going to be far from satisfactory. i have just seen on this list, there is one school which has fairly remote learning. so, it hasn't had the start of term delayed exactly,, but all the children other than from home. for those families who may be have already had to go without for to some extent during the pandemic, this is the last thing they want to see, and relate really is the last thing the government wants to see as well. there has been so much emphasis to make sure that the children out in the classroom with a teacher, fully focused on their learning rather than that remote learning, but some children having to do that, either because there is a mix of learning going on or because therejust isn't a mix of learning going on or because there just isn't enough space in a school site that is safe for all the children to be in. it is
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going to be a massive logistical issue as well for parents, who themselves will be trying to do theirjobs, go to work after those long school holidays, and it will be a massive inconvenience for them as well, as well as parents being concerned that if they hear the school building at their child has been going to for a number of years has this raac problem. the question is just really go on and on about how much was no one, whether action should have been taken earlier. there is going to be a lucky man for the same resources, isn't there a? i'm thinking about outside tents, marquees, and building materials? potentially. i think we will have to wait to get a fuller picture about exactly how much mitigation work has to be done, whether some buildings just have to be completely demolished or whether they can be repaired or measures taken to ensure
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they are safe. i do wonder as well whether it will broaden out a wider issue about investment in the school infrastructure and whether school buildings as a whole has seen sufficient investment. i think again you will see labour trying to talk about this. we have got to go back to the fact again that this raac issue has been known about for a long time, before rishi sunak was prime minister, before he was chancellor of the exchequer. but there have been numerous safety concerns and expections going on in the recent years, and it appears things to gain to a head over the summer, leading to this very untimely decision for the conservative government to take action at this moment, and see some schools having the start of term to fill a delayed, while other schools it seems are able to more or less fully function. but it has been extremely difficult timing for rishi sunak and his education secretary,
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gillian keegan. he is going to have to face up to those questions now. it is a cross party constituency because these schools will be in constituencies with mp5 from all different parties, so it won'tjust be labour who are very clearly going to go on the attack on this. they will of course be conservative mps who are part of that government, they will be getting flak from their constituents as well about what is going on and having to answer questions. it's an uncomfortable one for them. , , , questions. it's an uncomfortable one for them. ,, . ~ questions. it's an uncomfortable one forthem. ,, . ~ , for them. jess parker downing is from westminster, _ for them. jess parker downing is from westminster, thank- for them. jess parker downing is from westminster, thank you . for them. jess parker downing is i from westminster, thank you very much. prime minister's questions is due to begin in very short amount of time. the prime minister shortly to enter the commons. he will be grilled on the concrete crisis when he walks in and stands in the commons. this after the government published a list of schools in
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england with risky concrete and numb, this so—called raac concrete. we also have a list of 30 schools in scotland. 104 schools were known to be affected by the concrete, but more than 50 others had been mitigated. the list available on the bbc website, you can take a look at it if you are concerned about your child's school, or indeed about your general community. dozens of school buildings in england and wales have been closed at the start of term, but in large part, in fact, the schools concerned will be able to teach. only four schools we are hearing will actually be fully remote learning. one of them is in harrow, saint gregory's science college. harlow green in gateshead. saint annes primary school. those are the ones that will be fairly
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remote learning. in many cases, these schools have been able to reorganise their staff and pupils, such that they are able to be taught elsewhere in the school. we are now heading to prime minister's questions and the prime minister has left downing street. but we are not quite there yet. prime minister's questions is about to begin. it could be a tough one for the prime minister, facing a grilling from the opposition on the subject of concrete in schools which was deemed over the summer not to be safe and action has been taken. let us take another look at that list which looks pretty daunting. the term has been delayed in these schools. 19 schools have had their start delayed according to the department for education. we are listing those schools now. many of
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them will be able to move to remote learning which is an unwelcome prospect for both pupils and parents. it is quite a daunting list. as i have said, we have 30 also listed from scotland. rishi sunak is now about to start. we are all incredibly _ sunak is now about to start. we are all incredibly proud _ sunak is now about to start. we are all incredibly proud of— sunak is now about to start. we are all incredibly proud of the _ sunak is now about to start. we are all incredibly proud of the lioness i all incredibly proud of the lioness is. i also note the whole house will want to join me is. i also note the whole house will want tojoin me in sending condolences to the family, friends and colleagues of sergeant graham must have. it is a testament to his bravery that he died in the line of duty. a terrible reminder of the work of the police do every day to keep us safe. mr speaker, this morning i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others in addition to my duties in this house and i shall have further such meetings later today. the labour party used _ meetings later today. the labour
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party used to _ meetings later today. the labour party used to claim _ meetings later today. the labour party used to claim that - meetings later today. the labour party used to claim that it - party used to claim that it represents working—class people but the expansion to greater london will now have millions of working people with bills of £12 50 per day or £4005 per year. does he agree with me that that is unacceptable for londoners and those in surrounding counties to face this regressive and unacceptable attacks and will he do everything he can to working people? mr speaker, i agree with my honourable friend, it is disappointing that last week, the labour leader allowed the labour mayor to introduce these charges, charging people £12 50 every time they start their car, adding to the burden of the cost of living. all i can say is, when we focus on helping hard—working families, all he does is punish them. we hard-working families, all he does is punish them.— is punish them. we now come to the leader of is punish them. we now come to the leader of the — is punish them. we now come to the leader of the opposition, _ is punish them. we now come to the leader of the opposition, keir - leader of the opposition, keir starmen _
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starmer. can ijoin starmer. can i join the starmer. can ijoin the prime starmer. — can ijoin the prime minister in congratulating the lionesses and his comments about sergeant saddle. i think we speak for the whole house when we speak on that subject. i would also like to extend the warmest welcome to our new labour memberfor warmest welcome to our new labour member for selby and ainsdale. he has already made history for the labour party by overturning the largest tory majority ever in a by—election. i would also welcome the on about members for oxbridge and south ruislip, somerton and from. mr speaker, the roof of a primary school in gravesend collapsed in may 2018. thankfully, it happened at a weekend and no children were injured. the concrete ceiling was deemed dangerous and liable to collapse. everyone knew the problem existed in other schools. yet the prime minister decided to half the budget for school maintenance just a couple of
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years later. does he agree with his education secretary that he should be thanked for doing a good job? mr speaker, i know how concerned parents, children and teachers are and i want to start by assuring them that the government is doing everything it can to fix this quickly and minimise the disruption to children's education. we make no apology for acting decisively in the face of the information and let me provide the house with an update on where we are. of the 22,000 schools in england, the vast, vast majority won't be affected. in fact, in two thirds of inspections of suspected schools, ravichandran ashwin is not actually present. to tackle the 1% of schools that have been affected so far, the 1%, we are assigning each of those schools i dedicated caseworker and providing extra funding to fix the problem. in the majority of cases, children will
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attend school as normal and the mitigations take typically just attend school as normal and the mitigations take typicallyjust days or weeks to complete. we will do everything we can to help parents support teachers and get children back to normal school life as quickly as possible. mr back to normal school life as quickly as possible. mr speaker, we screen academy _ quickly as possible. mr speaker, we screen academy in _ quickly as possible. mr speaker, we screen academy in sandwell- quickly as possible. mr speaker, we screen academy in sandwell was - quickly as possible. mr speaker, we screen academy in sandwell was on | screen academy in sandwell was on labour's building list in 2010. they scrapped it at no children there are in a crumbling school. the head of the national audit office accuses him of taking a sticking plaster approach. the nio report says he cut £869 million. the person to run the department for education says he is personally responsible. on monday, he leapt to his own defence saying it is utterly wrong to blame him. so why does literally everyone else say it is his fault? mr why does literally everyone else say it is his fault?— it is his fault? mr speaker, the professional —
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it is his fault? mr speaker, the professional advice _ it is his fault? mr speaker, the professional advice from - it is his fault? mr speaker, the professional advice from the i professional advice from the technical experts has evolved over time and indeed, it is something that successive governments have dealt with dating back to 1994. as new advice has come forward, the government has rightly decisively and swiftly acted in the face of that advice. but he talked about school budgets and talked about what i had done but let mejust walking through the facts of actually what that spending review did because he brought it up. he brought it up so possibly he would like to hear the facts. funding for school maintenance and rebuilding will average £2.6 billion a year over this parliament as a result of that spending review which represents a 20% increase on the years before. indeed, mr speaker, farfrom cutting budgets, as he alleges, the amount spent last year was the highest in a decade. that spending review
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maintained the school rebuilding programme, delivering 500 schools over a decade, a pace consistent with what had happened previously and it is worth pointing out that during parliamentary debates on that spending review, the labour party and him did not raise the issue of this one single time as before he jumps on the next prodigal bandwagon, he should get facts straight. mr bandwagon, he should get facts straiiht. ~ . ,, bandwagon, he should get facts straiiht. ~ .~ ., bandwagon, he should get facts straiiht. ~ .~ . straight. mr speaker, a college in darliniton straight. mr speaker, a college in darlington was _ straight. mr speaker, a college in darlington was on _ straight. mr speaker, a college in darlington was on the _ straight. mr speaker, a college in darlington was on the labour's - darlington was on the labour's building list in 2010. they scrapped it and now children there are in a crumble in school. on the one hand, we have him saying, it is nothing to do with him. on the other side, we have the facts and there is a simple way to clear this up. why doesn't he
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commit to publish the requests from the department for education for the school rebuilding programme and what risks he was one of before he turned them down. mr risks he was one of before he turned them down-— them down. mr speaker, the un-gentleman _ them down. mr speaker, the un-gentleman has _ them down. mr speaker, the un-gentleman has now- them down. mr speaker, the i un-gentleman has now brought them down. mr speaker, the - un-gentleman has now brought up un—gentleman has now brought up twice the labour school building programme. so let us just look at that undercut the facts surrounding that undercut the facts surrounding that because we do know the truth about the programme because the na actually reviewed that programme later on. what they define? they found that labour's building programme actually excluded of schools. next, what did they find? that it was a third more expensive thanit that it was a third more expensive than it needed to be, needlessly wasting resources that have gone to schools and mr speaker, this is the worst bit, the worst bit is that that programme, because now he is talking about the physical condition of schools, that programme only allocated funds solely on the basis
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of ideology with no regard whatsoever to the physical condition of schools. that is why the independent review described that programme as time—consuming and expensive. just like the labour party. expensive. just like the labour pa . ~ expensive. just like the labour pa .~ expensive. just like the labour pa . ~ ., �* . expensive. just like the labour pa .~ . ., expensive. just like the labour pa .~ . party. we don't want to start off with somebody _ party. we don't want to start off with somebody leaving - party. we don't want to start off with somebody leaving so - party. we don't want to start off with somebody leaving so early| with somebody leaving so early because — with somebody leaving so early because that is what is going to happen — because that is what is going to ha en. . . , because that is what is going to hauen. . . , . because that is what is going to ha i sen. ,, . , . ., happen. keir starmer. they want more so let me continue. _ happen. keir starmer. they want more so let me continue. a _ happen. keir starmer. they want more so let me continue. a school _ happen. keir starmer. they want more so let me continue. a school in - so let me continue. a school in county durham was on labour's building asst in 2010. they scrapped it at no children there are in a crumbling school. the truth is, this crisis is the inevitable result of 13 years of cutting corners, botched jobs, sticking plaster politics. it is the sort of thing you expect from cowboy builders and saying that everyone else is wrong, everyone else is to blame, protest that they
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have done a good job, even as the ceiling falls in. the difference, mr speaker, is that in this case, the cowboys are running the country. isn't he ashamed that after 13 years of tory government, children are cowering under still supports, stopping their classroom riff from falling in? stopping their classroom riff from fallini in? . ., , , ., stopping their classroom riff from fallini in? ,, ., , , ., falling in? seriously, iwould calm down. falling in? seriously, iwould calm down- first— falling in? seriously, iwould calm down. first session, _ falling in? seriously, iwould calm down. first session, i— falling in? seriously, iwould calm down. first session, i understand| down. first session, i understand people _ down. first session, i understand people are — down. first session, i understand people are expected and excited to be back— people are expected and excited to be back but i expect better behaviour. prime minister. mr speaker. _ behaviour. prime minister. i speaker, this behaviour. prime minister. ii speaker, this exactly the kind of political opportunities and, the kind of political opportunism we come to effect from captain haas hindsight over here. before today, he has never once raised this she with me across this dispatch box. it was not even worthy of a single...
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it is the same for the side as well. can i_ it is the same for the side as well. can liust — it is the same for the side as well. can ijust say, we are going to have eight. _ can ijust say, we are going to have eight, question time. i want to hit the question, i want to hear the answer. — the question, i want to hear the answer, just like your constituents. before _ answer, just like your constituents. before today, he never once raised this issue with me in parliament. it was not even worthy of a single mention in his so—called landmark speech this summer and if we had listened to him, our kids would have been off school and looked down for longer. it is a simple as that. he talks about 13 years. let us see what happened when we head into office, two thirds of schools were good and outstanding and now it is 90%. we introduced a premium to get more funding to the more disadvantaged pupils. today there are 75% more likely to go to university and as a result of our reforms, we now have the best breeders in the western world. that is what 13 breeders in the western world. that is what13 years of education reform
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gets you, all of which are opposed by the party opposite. iie gets you, all of which are opposed by the party opposite.— gets you, all of which are opposed by the party opposite. he claims to be a man of— by the party opposite. he claims to be a man of detail. _ by the party opposite. he claims to be a man of detail. 100 _ be a man of detail. 100 parliamentary questions from the side on this issue but mr speaker, thatis side on this issue but mr speaker, that is continue. holy family catholic school in bradford was on the labour building list in 2010. they scrapped it at now children there, too, or in encumbering school. i there, too, or in encumbering school. ~ . there, too, or in encumbering school. ,, . . ., school. i thinki have heard enough. now then. — school. ithinki have heard enough. now then. this— school. i thinki have heard enough. now then, this is _ school. i thinki have heard enough. now then, this is the _ school. i thinki have heard enough. now then, this is the last _ school. i thinki have heard enough. now then, this is the last time. - school. i thinki have heard enough. now then, this is the last time. you j now then, this is the last time. you either— now then, this is the last time. you either go _ now then, this is the last time. you either go now or you are required for the _ either go now or you are required for the rest — either go now or you are required for the rest of the session. if either go now or you are required for the rest of the session.- for the rest of the session. if you can believe _ for the rest of the session. if you can believe it, _ for the rest of the session. if you can believe it, in _ for the rest of the session. if you can believe it, in april— for the rest of the session. if you can believe it, in april this - for the rest of the session. if you can believe it, in april this year, | can believe it, in april this year, the education secretary signed a contract for refurbishment of her offices. it has a personal stamp of approval. it cost, i cannot quite believe this, £34. can he explain to parents whose children are not at
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school this week, why he thinks a blank cheque for a tory minister's office is better use of taxpayer's money and stopping schools collapsing. mr money and stopping schools collapsing-— money and stopping schools colla-isin. ~ .~ ., money and stopping schools colla-isin. ~ . collapsing. mr speaker, what i say to arents collapsing. mr speaker, what i say to parents is. _ collapsing. mr speaker, what i say to parents is, in _ collapsing. mr speaker, what i say to parents is, in the _ collapsing. mr speaker, what i say to parents is, in the receipt- collapsing. mr speaker, what i say to parents is, in the receipt of- collapsing. mr speaker, what i sayj to parents is, in the receipt of new information, we have acted decisively to ensure the safety of children and minimise disruption in education, as we have laid out and communicated extensively. that is the right thing to do and i would also gently point out to him but whilst the department for education started this process 18 months ago in spring of last year, as far as i can tell, it labour run wales, they still don't know which schools are affected. but again, he brought up this issue of funding and again, let us look back to what happened in that spending review because in that spending review, i increase the department for education's capital budget by 25% to a record £7 billion. it tripled the amount that
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we spend on children with special education needs and disabilities. it improved the condition of the estate and it set the course for funding to be the highest ever but it also, crucially, invested £5 billion to help our pupils recover the lost learning from covid—19. £5 million, mr speaker, and he might remember that because we wanted pupils learning, he wanted longer locked oz. i learning, he wanted longer locked oz. ~' , learning, he wanted longer locked oz. ~ , ., , ., .. oz. i think he 'ust does not get how this is all fine— oz. i think he just does not get how this is all fine out _ oz. i think he just does not get how this is all fine out there, _ oz. i think he just does not get how this is all fine out there, he - oz. i think he just does not get how this is all fine out there, he is - oz. i think he just does not get how this is all fine out there, he is so i this is all fine out there, he is so at odds with the live experience of millions of working people across this country. mr speaker, that is go on, this is a long list of at least six schools in essex from labour's building list in 2010. they scrapped them at now children there or encumbering schools. what he will not admit is the reason he cut these
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budgets, ignore the warnings is quite simple. just like he thought his tax rises other families to pay, he thinks his school cuts are for other families to endure. doesn't it tell you everything you need to know that he is happy to spend millions of taxpayers money sprucing up tory offices, billions to ensure there is no vat on tory school fees, but he will not lift a finger when it comes to protecting other people's schools, other people's safety, other people's children. mr speaker, i know he comes _ other people's children. mr speaker, i know he comes here _ other people's children. mr speaker, i know he comes here with _ other people's children. mr speaker, i know he comes here with his - i know he comes here with his prepared script but he has not listened to a single fact of six questions about the record amounts of funding going into schools. about the incredible report that education impacted the most disadvantaged children in our society, a record we are rightly proud of, and yes, of course we can't name the schools but thatis course we can't name the schools but that is because we are reacting to
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information and publishing that information, mr speaker. so we know where the issues are, something we are still waiting for by the welsh government in wales. of course he wants to try and score political points from something we are urging within the right way but i do know that he has not mentioned a single other thing that has happened since we last met across these dispatch boxes. he talked about hard—working families across britain but what has happened? energy bills, down. what has happened to inflation? down, mr speaker. what has happened to small blood crossings? down, mr speaker. when it comes, mr speaker, to economic growth, what has happened? it has gone up, mr speaker. he tried time and time again to talk down the british economy but people were not listening, thankfully. his entire economic narrative has been demolished and the conservatives are
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getting on, delivering for britain. inflation falling, energy bills coming down, people in the west midlands are disappointed to see that labour run the birmingham city council has gone back. as a west bromwich mp, i am no stranger to labour incompetence. does he and that labour have demonstrated yet again that they always run out of other people's money? mi; again that they always run out of other people's money?— other people's money? my other friend is exactly _ other people's money? my other friend is exactly right. _ other people's money? my other friend is exactly right. we - other people's money? my other| friend is exactly right. we started by hearing how a labour in london are charging hard—working people with fees at now we are hearing how labour in birmingham are feeling hard—working people, losing control of taxpayers money and driving their finances into the ground. they bankrupted birmingham, we cannot let them a bankrupt britain. mr
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bankrupted birmingham, we cannot let them a bankrupt britain.— them a bankrupt britain. mr speaker, them a bankrupt britain. mr speaker, the ublic them a bankrupt britain. mr speaker, the public needs _ them a bankrupt britain. mr speaker, the public needs no _ them a bankrupt britain. mr speaker, the public needs no reminding - them a bankrupt britain. mr speaker, the public needs no reminding that i the public needs no reminding that today marks a year since the prime minister's predecessor took office. upon her speedy departure, they will have thought that things were going to get better but when we look at unemployment figures, they are higher. when we look at food prices, they are higher. look at mortgage rates, they are higher. economic growth? it is stagnant, so can i ask the prime minister, when is he going to get off his backside and do something about it? mr to get off his backside and do something about it? to get off his backside and do somethini about it? ~ .. . ,, something about it? mr speaker, with the honourable _ something about it? mr speaker, with the honourable gentleman _ something about it? mr speaker, with the honourable gentleman failed - something about it? mr speaker, with the honourable gentleman failed to i the honourable gentleman failed to point out is that the amount of times i have sat across the dispatch box from him and his colleagues and heard how somehow, we were we were like of butted and not tick the opportunity to correct the record also we had the fastest recovery out of any european economy after coming. of any european economy after comini. .. ..
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of any european economy after comini. .. ., , ., coming. you would be forgiving thinkini coming. you would be forgiving thinking the — coming. you would be forgiving thinking the prime _ coming. you would be forgiving thinking the prime minister - coming. you would be forgiving i thinking the prime minister things everything is all right but let us look at his proposals for the winter when it comes to a cost of living package because when it comes to energy bills, his plan of course is to do nothing. when it comes to mortgage bills, his plan is to do nothing. when it comes to food bills, his plan is to do nothing so when the secretary of state for education said earlier this week that everyone was doing nothing, she was referring to the prime minister, wasn't she? he was referring to the prime minister, wasn't she?— wasn't she? he is a little bit out of practice _ wasn't she? he is a little bit out of practice because _ wasn't she? he is a little bit out of practice because when - wasn't she? he is a little bit out of practice because when it - wasn't she? he is a little bit out i of practice because when it comes wasn't she? he is a little bit out - of practice because when it comes to energy bills, what we have done is paid for around half of a typical family's energy bills over the last year. support for the £1500, benefiting from is in scotland. he asks about mortgages, the chancellor's mortgage charter covers and ensures a typical mortgage holder can save hundreds of pounds a month when it comes to their
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mortgage refinancing and when he talked about energy, thanks to the actions of this government, we are supporting the hundreds of thousands ofjobs in the scottish oil and gas industry, securing this country's energy supply, something he opposes. i will always do what is right with people of scotland and it is time the snp the same. i people of scotland and it is time the snp the same.— people of scotland and it is time the snp the same. i was delighted when the prime _ the snp the same. i was delighted when the prime minister _ the snp the same. i was delighted when the prime minister last - the snp the same. i was delighted when the prime minister last year| when the prime minister last year said that on his watch, we would not lose swathes of farmland to solar applications. instead, rightly arguing for solar to be installed on rooftops. my constituency sees a constant flow of planning applications for solar farms and battery storage plants on food producing [and so, ask right honourable friend, when will his pledge a reality? mi; honourable friend, when will his pledge a reality?— pledge a reality? my honourable ffiend pledge a reality? my honourable friend makes _ pledge a reality? my honourable friend makes an _ pledge a reality? my honourable friend makes an excellent - pledge a reality? my honourable j friend makes an excellent point. solar is one of the cheapest points of electricity generation so it is right we try to see more of it across the country but we do need to
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protect our most valuable agricultural land protect our most valuable agricultural [and so that they can produce food for the nation and increase our food security and that is why the planning system now sets this out explicitly with a clear preference for brownfield sites. of course we want to do more to encourage solar and defra will be updating the house with further information on that policy in due course. . , ~' information on that policy in due course. . , ~ , course. last week, the prime ministers _ course. last week, the prime ministers stated _ course. last week, the prime ministers stated that - course. last week, the prime ministers stated that he - course. last week, the prime ministers stated that he was | course. last week, the prime - ministers stated that he was proud of his furlough scheme. i wonder if he is equally proud of the 400 billion he put on the national debt of inflation it has caused. is he proud of the jobs lost, businesses closed and lives crushed due to the lock downs? proud of the nhs waiting lists, premature deaths in the 1 million young people now needing mental health support and finally, as he proud of the excess deaths, affecting everyone of our constituencies, that no one wants to talk about, and will he give an undertaking to the public that they
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will never be inflicted upon them ever again? $5 will never be inflicted upon them ever again?— ever again? as the on about gentleman _ ever again? as the on about gentleman knows, - ever again? as the on about gentleman knows, there - ever again? as the on about gentleman knows, there is. ever again? as the on about| gentleman knows, there is a ever again? as the on about - gentleman knows, there is a formal inquiry regarding covid—19 which will examine all the decisions that were made including lockdown and the impact of them but with regard to the scheme, i am proud that at a time of extreme anxiety in the country facing an unprecedented situation, that this amount put its arms around a bit as public to ensure we protected 10 millionjobs and as the report showed last week, those actions, combined with all the other things we did to support the economy, ensured that we had the fastest recovery through the pandemic of any european nation. $5 pandemic of any european nation. as a pandemic of any european nation. ills a nation pandemic of any european nation. is a nation of animal lovers, pandemic of any european nation. i.s a nation of animal lovers, the conservative government record on animal welfare is a source of great pride. but sadly, too many abuses remain from pet theft, the smuggling of puppies and heavily pregnant dogs and dogs with their ears
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horrifically cropped, to illegal export of horses to europe for slaughter, these issues are personal to me as a veterinary surgeon. can the prime minister reassure the house that animal welfare is a key government priority and that he will bring forward the necessary legislation to tackle these issues as soon as possible? can legislation to tackle these issues as soon as possible?— legislation to tackle these issues as soon as possible? can i fight my on a boyfriend _ as soon as possible? can i fight my on a boyfriend for _ as soon as possible? can i fight my on a boyfriend for both _ as soon as possible? can i fight my on a boyfriend for both raising - as soon as possible? can i fight my on a boyfriend for both raising this| on a boyfriend for both raising this issue but also his work in this area. i am issue but also his work in this area. iam proud issue but also his work in this area. i am proud that thanks to the actions of previous governments, with regard to things like cat aggro chipping, the ivory ban or indeed raising the maximum sentence for animal cruelty to five years, we are now the highest ranked g7 nation when it comes to world animal protections. we are determined to go even further and to deliver on our manifesto commitments individually during the remainder of this parliament.— during the remainder of this parliament. ~ , . , parliament. the prime minister has said he will lead _
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parliament. the prime minister has said he will lead a _ parliament. the prime minister has said he will lead a government - parliament. the prime minister has said he will lead a government of i said he will lead a government of honesty, accountability and integrity. so can he explain how he was found to have breached the code of conduct this time for failing to declare his wife's shares childcare agency which received a monetary post from measures in his budget? if the honourable lady reads the full transcript and the full findings, she will see a detailed explanation of what happened which the commissioner described as a minor breach but given that at the time i was not aware of the policy that was being discussed and i corrected it later on, she will also know that i am not the only person across these dispatch boxes that has had the same thing happened to them. . dispatch boxes that has had the same thing happened to them.— thing happened to them. , enters the prime minister _ thing happened to them. , enters the prime minister in _ thing happened to them. , enters the prime minister in proposals _ thing happened to them. , enters the prime minister in proposals from - thing happened to them. , enters the prime minister in proposals from the | prime minister in proposals from the carbon competitiveness commission, which i chair, which would deliver on its hero cheaply and without the industrialising of our economy. it would help british money factors facing imports from other countries
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with lower costs, make exports more competitive everywhere and cut fuel duty here at home. we have strong backing from heavy industries, cross party support so with the prior minister consider adding his name to our list of supporters as well? i am irateful our list of supporters as well? i am grateful to — our list of supporters as well? i am grateful to my _ our list of supporters as well? i am grateful to my honourable friend and the commission for carbon competitiveness for the report that he has worked on and highlighted. the government is absolutely committed to putting in place the necessary policy for uk industry to decarbonise successfully stopped government recently consulted on addressing carbon leakage in particular with a range of potential options and we are in the process of considering those responses and will issue a formal response in due time. every year, billions of wet wipes go out into our rivers and oceans and clog our service. i have been campaigning on this for years, to ban plastic in wet wipes and the government has finally promised to
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ban plastic in wet wipes but that was five months ago and there has been nothing since then. when the prime minister today finally give a date when that ban will come into force and make a difference to our environment, or is this another broken promise from his zombie government? in broken promise from his zombie government?— broken promise from his zombie government? broken promise from his zombie iovernment? _, , . ., government? in the competence of ian government? in the competence of [an that government? in the competence of plan that was _ government? in the competence of plan that was published _ government? in the competence of plan that was published by - government? in the competence of plan that was published by the - plan that was published by the environment secretary in april, we did confirm our intention to ban wet wipes containing plastic, subject of course as is legally proper, to a public consultation. that consultation will be launched in the coming months, in autumn of this year, and i know ministers will keep the house updated. i year, and i know ministers will keep the house updated.— the house updated. i would like to offer some — the house updated. i would like to offer some assistance _ the house updated. i would like to offer some assistance on - the house updated. i would like to offer some assistance on the - the house updated. i would like to| offer some assistance on the small boats issue. has he considered the incongruity of the fact that a uk dinghy manufacturer try to sell into the eu market would have to apply the eu market would have to apply the customs codes and the potential of being stopped and checked and
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similar applies when a simple thing like gb to n i tried, but none of this applies seemingly when these huge super—sized dangerous dinghies are taken in from turkey across eu border into bulgaria and greece. is he as confused as i am by the eu's double standards on this matter? mi; double standards on this matter? my other friend sadly right that we must do all we can to stop the boats and tackle illegal migration and we know that the export of small boats across parts of the european continent is a vital element of the smuggling gangs tactics and that is why specifically, we are stepping up joint operations with turkey and i raise this with the president when we spoke, so we can tackle organised immigration crime and specifically disrupt the supply chain of both parts that are used for these dangerous crossings and i will continue to keep him updated on our progress. tiara continue to keep him updated on our ”roress. ., , . , continue to keep him updated on our ”roress. .. y . , . .. continue to keep him updated on our shores, ., , ., , ., ., , ., progress. two years ago in plymouth, we lost five —
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progress. two years ago in plymouth, we lost five people _ progress. two years ago in plymouth, we lost five people in _ progress. two years ago in plymouth, we lost five people in the _ progress. two years ago in plymouth, we lost five people in the worst - we lost five people in the worst mass shooting the country has seen for a decade. the government has finally consulted on firearms reform but after pressure from shooting groups, even the sensible measures look as if they could be watered down so when the prime minister bow down so when the prime minister bow down to lobbyists from the shooting industry or will he stand with the grieving families and those in plymouth who want to see no other tragedy like this ever happen again with stronger gun laws? i tragedy like this ever happen again with stronger gun laws?— tragedy like this ever happen again with stronger gun laws? i know how im ortant with stronger gun laws? i know how important this _ with stronger gun laws? i know how important this issue _ with stronger gun laws? i know how important this issue is _ with stronger gun laws? i know how important this issue is to _ with stronger gun laws? i know how important this issue is to the - important this issue is to the gentleman following the horrific shooting in his constituency and my thoughts are with the family of all those that were killed. he will know that firearms are subject to stringent controls and rightly so but those controls are kept under constant review. for example we have taken action to improve information sharing between gps and the police to make sure that people are not given access to farms without their medical conditions being checked and the statutory guidance that the chief officers of police have been
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improving so that how people apply for farms is assessed improving so that how people apply forfarms is assessed properly including checks on social media. with regard to the matter he specifically rises, the home office is in the process of considering and will respond in due course. later toda , i will respond in due course. later today. i am _ will respond in due course. later today, i am bringing _ will respond in due course. later today, i am bringing forward - will respond in due course. lstez today, i am bringing forward a ten minute rule bill to include the provision of automated external defibrillators and all new housing developments of ten dwellings or more. will my right honourable friend therefore support this provision and ask as relevant cabinet colleagues to engage with me to ensure these life—saving pieces of equipment can become commonplace where they can have the most impact. people's comes's my honourable friend is right to highlight the importance of these life—saving devices. that is why the national planning policy framework already expects planning policies and decisions to promote public safety but it is also why recently the government launched £1 million fund will will place 1,000 new differ
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polluters and committees across england to help improve equality of access to these life—cycle devices. in 2019, outwards academy three school was approved, with its first year intake arriving at the following year. there is still no new building. i have had no response to my meeting with the secretary of state come up with the intake destined to spend their entire secondary education and there adapted premises. with pupils being shunted around all buildings, talk of levelling up and addressing the gsa attainment gap rings hollow. cannot the prime minister and his education secretary to get off their derriere is and sort this out? i’m derriere is and sort this out? i'm ha - to derriere is and sort this out? i'm happy to ensure that the honourable gentleman gets an answer to the specific questions he raises on the
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specific questions he raises on the specific school. i'm proud of what the government is doing in the teesside and tees valley to support education come up with the recent announcement of sixth forms, but also receiving extra funding and resources, and that is why we have seen standards in reading and mass increase and we are determined to keep going. iiig increase and we are determined to keep going-— keep going. no prime minister is aware of how— keep going. no prime minister is aware of how the _ keep going. no prime minister is aware of how the raac - keep going. no prime minister is aware of how the raac issue - keep going. no prime minister is aware of how the raac issue has effective schools in essex. we have a high number of schools impacted, and he is rightly saying today that the government is doing everything it can to get children back to school. can he commit to fully fund the revenue costs associated with getting children back in school? i would hope he would commit to meeting the leader of essex county council, because they are pioneering some great reforms right now, where they are looking to maintain support as well as academy trusts. i think actually the government could get good insight into how we can get children back to schools fast and to look at the funding model for this.
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can i first of all start by thanking my honourable friend for the constructive engagement she has had with the education departments because like i am happy to cover the reassure and, as the chancellor already said, new funding will be provided to schools to deal with this issue. but also to ensure that can get through this issue as quickly as possible for her constituents and parents, and for everyone. the dfe are in process of increasing the number of dedicated workers from 50 to 80. we have increased the number of survey firms by more than double the sound that we can rapidly over the next few weeks fully assess all the relevant schools and have a mitigation plan place. schools and have a mitigation plan lace. . .. s , schools and have a mitigation plan lace. ., ., .. , , place. steelworkers in my constituency _ place. steelworkers in my constituency have - place. steelworkers in my| constituency have watched place. steelworkers in my. constituency have watched in frustration as other governments have pumped investment into a decarbonisation, while successive tory governments have sat on their hands. when will the premise are
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finally include the talks were tata steel and can he guarantee there will be a matching level of investment of what other european governments are doing on decarbonisation? and can he guarantee that the conclusion will be based on serious engagement comprehensively with the steel unions? . . comprehensively with the steel unions? ,, , . , , . ., unions? steel is absolutely vital to the uk, unions? steel is absolutely vital to the uk. this— unions? steel is absolutely vital to the uk, this is— unions? steel is absolutely vital to the uk, this is something - unions? steel is absolutely vital to the uk, this is something that - unions? steel is absolutely vital to the uk, this is something that of. the uk, this is something that of course is of interest to the honourable gentleman and something i have also discussed extensively with my honourable friend from scunthorpe. the industry supports localjobs and economic growth. conversations with specific companies, like tata steel, are ongoing, but they are understandably commercially sensitive. would you share an omission of securing a decarbonised, sustainable and competitive future for the industry in this country. in the meantime we are supporting the sector with our energy industries exemption, which provides discounted energy bills, and at the industrial energy transformation fund which supports steel company is of their energy
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bills and the transition through capital to a greener future. bills and the transition through capital to a greenerfuture. tina capital to a greener future. two weeks ago _ capital to a greener future. two weeks ago the _ capital to a greener future. turin weeks ago the government announced that the balls over a school's bid for a sixth form in my constituency has been successful. 52% of school leavers at 16 years old across the country go on to a sixth form, but it is 23% there, and in the shire brick it is 7%. millot the prime ministerjoin me in thanking on the red hill academy trust, no head teacher of the school, matthew hill, and all of those who have helped to bring a sixth form to bolsover? can i congratulate red hill and everyone involved with the successful bid for the new sixth form was that i know my honourable friend that shares my desire to ensure a world—class education for every single one of our young people across the country,
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because that is the best way to provide them with an opportunity for a better life, and this new programme of sixth forms will deliver that for his constituency. no north—east has been underfunded in terms of transport investment for decades. hs2, meant to be an economic development and connectivity lifeline, now not coming anywhere near. and the author northumberland duelling position delayed yet again. our services are still running an outdated infrastructure and rolling stock. well the pound must recommit the funding to reopen the sideline to take pressure of the east coast main line and aid economic well—being and movement of passengers and freight services in the north—east of england? on is levelling upjust a rhetoric? england? on is levelling up 'ust a rhetoric? ~ . ., ., rhetoric? what i would say to the honourable _ rhetoric? what i would say to the honourable gentleman, - rhetoric? what i would say to the honourable gentleman, to - rhetoric? what i would say to the honourable gentleman, to give i rhetoric? what i would say to the l honourable gentleman, to give him rhetoric? what i would say to the - honourable gentleman, to give him a sense of our commitment, i can tell
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him that in real terms since 2010 we have spent over a third more in the central capital investment in northern transport every single year since 2010 compared to labour's last six years in government. that is what we had in for northern transportation. when it comes to reopening and restoring railway lines... studio: we are going to leave prime minister's questions there. we will bring you anything important that develops later on in new programme. let me introduce you to kevin hollinrake, business secretary for labour. and of course nick eardley, the bbc�*s political correspondents. nick, this is not the sort that rishi sunak, the prime minister would have hoped for, as this crisis over crumbling schools has unfolded.
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the list has been published, the education secretary says she was going to publish it by the end of the week, we have it here. what have we learnt from this list? it is the week, we have it here. what have we learnt from this list?— we learnt from this list? it is a loni , we learnt from this list? it is a long. 147 _ we learnt from this list? it is a long. 147 in — we learnt from this list? it is a long, 147 in total. _ we learnt from this list? it is a long, 147 in total. 19 _ we learnt from this list? it is a long, 147 in total. 19 schools i we learnt from this list? it is a . long, 147 in total. 19 schools have had to delay the start of their terms because of this issue. i think we found four schools or colleges that have had to switch completely to remote learning because of raac. you are absolutely right, that was a tough session for rishi sunak. he did not want to be talking about this. the reason it is tough, we have sat here a lot on wednesday afternoons and talked about problems for the prime minister, quite often problems from previous administrations, i suppose there is administrations, i suppose there is a bit of that with this. but the problem the prime minister has is that it problem the prime minister has is thatitis problem the prime minister has is that it is his decision making as chancellor. i'm not sure he did quite enough to fend off those questions today, even borrowing completely from the boris johnson
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plate book come up with that captain hindsightjaber keir starmer. i hindsight jaber keir starmer. i think hindsightjaber keir starmer. i think we got the gist of the labour argument, that this was the inevitable result of 13 years of cutting corners. that is absolutely no political attack you with your time and time again. politically, it is a aift to time and time again. politically, it is a gift to the _ time and time again. politically, it is a gift to the labour _ time and time again. politically, it is a gift to the labour party, - time and time again. politically, it is a gift to the labour party, and i is a gift to the labour party, and they will certainly be making the most of it. in terms of what keir starmer is committing to, there is a lot of talk about the building schools for the future programme, which was cut in the wake of the financial crash under the coalition government led by david cameron. i haven't heard a shadow labour minister that they are going to commit to restarting or launching a new programme to do exactly that. that is going to be the big pressure point for labour. i don't thinkjust over this, point for labour. i don't thinkjust overthis, by point for labour. i don't thinkjust over this, by the way. i think when their confidence happens in a few
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weeks, it is going to be about putting sumy on the bounds of criticism, saying what are you actually want to do about it? on the politics of this, there is no doubt this is a really tricky one for the government to stop let's talk to james saunders, a head teacher of one of the schools on the list which has had to partially close due to what is called reinforce autoclaved aerated concrete, we will call raac for our purposes today. horn aerated concrete, we will call raac for our purposes today. how serious is the damage _ for our purposes today. how serious is the damage at — for our purposes today. how serious is the damage at your _ for our purposes today. how serious is the damage at your school, - for our purposes today. how serious is the damage at your school, mr i is the damage at your school, mr saunders? did you have concerns before this?— before this? no, i didn't have concerns. _ before this? no, i didn't have concerns, but _ before this? no, i didn't have concerns, but i _ before this? no, i didn't have concerns, but i was _ before this? no, i didn't have concerns, but i was aware - before this? no, i didn't have | concerns, but i was aware that before this? no, i didn't have - concerns, but i was aware that we had raac— concerns, but i was aware that we had raac and that was being managed according _ had raac and that was being managed according to our raac management policy _ according to our raac management oli . ~ , .. according to our raac management soli _ . , ., .. according to our raac management oli . ~ , ., ., . policy. when did you find out that our policy. when did you find out that your school— policy. when did you find out that your school was _ policy. when did you find out that your school was going _ policy. when did you find out that your school was going to - policy. when did you find out that your school was going to be - your school was going to be partially closed?— your school was going to be partially closed? was partially closed? last thursday. was a shock? 0h. _ partially closed? last thursday. was a shock? oh, yes. _ partially closed? last thursday. was a shock? oh, yes. i— partially closed? last thursday. was a shock? oh, yes. i wish _ partially closed? last thursday. was a shock? oh, yes. i wish is- partially closed? last thursday. was a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting i a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting read for a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting ready for the _ a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting ready for the start _ a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting ready for the start of _ a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting ready for the start of term, - a shock? oh, yes. i wish is getting ready for the start of term, then i ready for the start of term, then all those —
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ready for the start of term, then all those plans are to go out of the window _ all those plans are to go out of the window. we had to put together quite a lot in_ window. we had to put together quite a lot in quite a short amount of time _ a lot in quite a short amount of time. ~ . . i. a lot in quite a short amount of time. ~ . . ., a lot in quite a short amount of| time-_ we a lot in quite a short amount of time. ~ . . , .. .. we have time. what have you done? we have not time. what have you done? we have t ot 22 time. what have you done? we have got 22 classrooms _ time. what have you done? we have got 22 classrooms are _ time. what have you done? we have got 22 classrooms are of _ time. what have you done? we have got 22 classrooms are of action - time. what have you done? we have got 22 classrooms are of action and i got 22 classrooms are of action and 22 other— got 22 classrooms are of action and 22 other spaces, that ranges from our staff— 22 other spaces, that ranges from our staff room, staff toilets, children's _ our staff room, staff toilets, children's toilets, cancelling space, — children's toilets, cancelling space, medical room, offices, photo copying _ space, medical room, offices, photo copying a _ space, medical room, offices, photo copying. a lot of the infrastructure as welt _ copying. a lot of the infrastructure as well. that equates to about half of our _ as well. that equates to about half of our school. the core subjects of maths _ of our school. the core subjects of maths and — of our school. the core subjects of maths and english, all of those classrooms are out, along with half languages — classrooms are out, along with half languages department, our humanities department and all of computer suites — department and all of computer suites. . , .. department and all of computer suites. . .. department and all of computer suites. . , ., ., ., department and all of computer suites. . .. ., .. suites. have you done enough, to tuote suites. have you done enough, to quote gillian _ suites. have you done enough, to quote gillian keegan, _ suites. have you done enough, to quote gillian keegan, have - suites. have you done enough, to quote gillian keegan, have you i suites. have you done enough, to | quote gillian keegan, have you got off your backside enough to do something about this? i off your backside enough to do something about this?- off your backside enough to do something about this? i think so. we have been pretty _ something about this? i think so. we have been pretty busy. _ something about this? i think so. we have been pretty busy. we _ something about this? i think so. we have been pretty busy. we have i something about this? i think so. we | have been pretty busy. we have been proactive _ have been pretty busy. we have been proactive i_ have been pretty busy. we have been proactive. i think to quote, welcome
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many— proactive. i think to quote, welcome many people, we are often referred to as _ many people, we are often referred to as being — many people, we are often referred to as being found for working at pace _ to as being found for working at pace. indeed, ithink to as being found for working at pace. indeed, i think we to as being found for working at pace. indeed, ithink we have been working _ pace. indeed, ithink we have been working at— pace. indeed, ithink we have been working at pace, certain that the staff at _ working at pace, certain that the staff at our— working at pace, certain that the staff at our school. ijust feel there — staff at our school. ijust feel there is— staff at our school. ijust feel there is too much red tape from the dfe, and _ there is too much red tape from the dfe, and they are not working at the same _ dfe, and they are not working at the same place — dfe, and they are not working at the same place and we really need them to catch _ same place and we really need them to catch up _ same place and we really need them to catch up with us.— to catch up with us. kevin, do you acce -t to catch up with us. kevin, do you accept that _ to catch up with us. kevin, do you accept that criticism? _ to catch up with us. kevin, do you accept that criticism? we - to catch up with us. kevin, do you accept that criticism? we should i accept that criticism? we should obviously listen _ accept that criticism? we should obviously listen to _ accept that criticism? we should obviously listen to people - accept that criticism? we should obviously listen to people who i accept that criticism? we should i obviously listen to people who are experts _ obviously listen to people who are experts at — obviously listen to people who are experts at the _ obviously listen to people who are experts at the sharp _ obviously listen to people who are experts at the sharp end. - obviously listen to people who are experts at the sharp end. if - obviously listen to people who are experts at the sharp end. if we i obviously listen to people who are i experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy— experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy is — experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy is out _ experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy is out of _ experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy is out of this _ experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy is out of this and - experts at the sharp end. if we take the policy is out of this and put i the policy is out of this and put into context. _ the policy is out of this and put into context, of _ the policy is out of this and put into context, of course - the policy is out of this and put into context, of course this i the policy is out of this and put into context, of course this is i the policy is out of this and putj into context, of course this is a serious — into context, of course this is a serious issue _ into context, of course this is a serious issue. this— into context, of course this is a serious issue. this is— into context, of course this is a serious issue. this is affectingl serious issue. this is affecting about— serious issue. this is affecting about 140 _ serious issue. this is affecting about 140 schools, _ serious issue. this is affecting about 140 schools, less - serious issue. this is affecting about 140 schools, less than i serious issue. this is affecting i about 140 schools, less than 1% of schools _ about 140 schools, less than 1% of schools in — about 140 schools, less than 1% of schools in england, _ about 140 schools, less than 1% of schools in england, so _ about 140 schools, less than 1% of schools in england, so lots - about 140 schools, less than 1% of schools in england, so lots of i schools in england, so lots of worried — schools in england, so lots of worried parents _ schools in england, so lots of worried parents at _ schools in england, so lots of worried parents at home i schools in england, so lots of| worried parents at home don't schools in england, so lots of - worried parents at home don't need to worry _ worried parents at home don't need to worry the — worried parents at home don't need to worry. the serious _ worried parents at home don't need to worry. the serious nature - worried parents at home don't need to worry. the serious nature of- to worry. the serious nature of this, _ to worry. the serious nature of this, based _ to worry. the serious nature of this, based on— to worry. the serious nature of this, based on new— to worry. the serious nature of this, based on new evidence, i to worry. the serious nature of. this, based on new evidence, we to worry. the serious nature of- this, based on new evidence, we are addressing _ this, based on new evidence, we are addressing these _ this, based on new evidence, we are addressing these problems - this, based on new evidence, we are addressing these problems and i this, based on new evidence, we are i addressing these problems and making sure children _ addressing these problems and making sure children are _ addressing these problems and making sure children are going _ addressing these problems and making sure children are going to— addressing these problems and making sure children are going to school. - sure children are going to school. even _ sure children are going to school. even the — sure children are going to school. even the ones _ sure children are going to school. even the ones going _ sure children are going to school. even the ones going to _ sure children are going to school. even the ones going to school, i even the ones going to school, should — even the ones going to school, should only— even the ones going to school, should only miss _ even the ones going to school, should only miss about - even the ones going to school, should only miss about six i even the ones going to school, i should only miss about six days. james. _ should only miss about six days. james. what _
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should only miss about six days. james, what do _ should only miss about six days. james, what do you _ should only miss about six days. james, what do you say- should only miss about six days. james, what do you say in- should only miss about six days. i james, what do you say in response? it will be about six days of school miss, is that your experience? iiio. miss, is that your experience? no. we come back _ miss, is that your experience? no. we come back to _ miss, is that your experience? no. we come back to that red tape business _ we come back to that red tape business. if i wasjust we come back to that red tape business. if i was just to we come back to that red tape business. if i wasjust to go we come back to that red tape business. if i was just to go along with the _ business. if i was just to go along with the current plan and get the work— with the current plan and get the work done, it would be six months of disruption _ work done, it would be six months of disruption. that doesn't mean that they would — disruption. that doesn't mean that they would be off for six months, but i _ they would be off for six months, but i only— they would be off for six months, but i only get two out of three year groups— but i only get two out of three year groups into — but i only get two out of three year groups into the school. therefore i have _ groups into the school. therefore i have about — groups into the school. therefore i have about 340 children at any one time won't — have about 340 children at any one time won't be in school. it is going to be _ time won't be in school. it is going to be a _ time won't be in school. it is going to be a significantly larger number than six _ to be a significantly larger number than six days, that's for sure. there — than six days, that's for sure. there will— than six days, that's for sure. there will be some schools specifically— there will be some schools specifically affected. - there will be some schoolsi specifically affected. clearly there will be some schools - specifically affected. clearly we'll need to _ specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do — specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do all— specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do all we _ specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do all we can _ specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do all we can and - specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do all we can and can- specifically affected. clearly we'll need to do all we can and can on| specifically affected. clearly we'll i need to do all we can and can on the resources _ need to do all we can and can on the resources we — need to do all we can and can on the resources we can— need to do all we can and can on the resources we can to _ need to do all we can and can on the resources we can to help _ need to do all we can and can on the resources we can to help these i resources we can to help these problems _ resources we can to help these problems it— resources we can to help these problems it is— resources we can to help these problems. it is an _ resources we can to help these problems. it is an average i resources we can to help these i problems. it is an average across the board, — problems. it is an average across the board, because _ problems. it is an average across the board, because there - problems. it is an average across the board, because there is- problems. it is an average across the board, because there is no. the board, because there is no scaremongering _ the board, because there is no scaremongering going - the board, because there is no scaremongering going on i the board, because there is noi scaremongering going on about whether— scaremongering going on about whether kids _ scaremongering going on about whether kids can _ scaremongering going on about whether kids can go _ scaremongering going on about whether kids can go to - scaremongering going on about whether kids can go to school i whether kids can go to school safety. — whether kids can go to school safety. and _ whether kids can go to school safely, and that _ whether kids can go to school safely, and that the _ whether kids can go to school safely, and that the vast i whether kids can go to school i safely, and that the vast majority of four— safely, and that the vast majority of four majority _ safely, and that the vast majority of four majority of _ safely, and that the vast majority of four majority of them - safely, and that the vast majority of four majority of them can. i safely, and that the vast majority of four majority of them can. of four ma'ority of them can. james, ou have of four majority of them can. james, you have asked _ of four majority of them can. james,
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you have asked for— of four majority of them can. james, you have asked for funding - of four majority of them can. james, you have asked for funding from - of four majority of them can. james, you have asked for funding from the | you have asked for funding from the department for education. while you ask for in the past?— ask for in the past? previously, before i arrived _ ask for in the past? previously, before i arrived at _ ask for in the past? previously, before i arrived at the - ask for in the past? previously, before i arrived at the school, | ask for in the past? previously, before i arrived at the school, i | before i arrived at the school, i have _ before i arrived at the school, i have been_ before i arrived at the school, i have been here five and a half years. — have been here five and a half years. i— have been here five and a half years, i know the school was looking to get _ years, i know the school was looking to get a _ years, i know the school was looking to get a new — years, i know the school was looking to get a new build. i don't know whether— to get a new build. i don't know whether it — to get a new build. i don't know whether it was part of the bsf project — whether it was part of the bsf project or not, but for some reason that never— project or not, but for some reason that never happened. since i have arrived _ that never happened. since i have arrived at — that never happened. since i have arrived at the school i have been trying _ arrived at the school i have been trying to — arrived at the school i have been trying to push for a new building. our plans— trying to push for a new building. our plans were sent to gavin williamson during the pandemic for the new_ williamson during the pandemic for the new programme that he had launched — the new programme that he had launched. we have got all new schools — launched. we have got all new schools around us and we are one of the most _ schools around us and we are one of the most crumbling buildings there is in this— the most crumbling buildings there is in this particular area. why hasn't that — is in this particular area. why hasn't that school _ is in this particular area. why hasn't that school had - is in this particular area. tarry hasn't that school had funding kicks i can obviously be specific. i hasn't that school had funding kicks i can obviously be specific.- i can obviously be specific. i have heard what _ i can obviously be specific. i have heard what they _ i can obviously be specific. i have heard what they head _ i can obviously be specific. i have heard what they head teacher - i can obviously be specific. i have| heard what they head teacher has said, _ heard what they head teacher has said. tots — heard what they head teacher has said. lots of— heard what they head teacher has said, lots of other— heard what they head teacher has said, lots of other schools - heard what they head teacher has said, lots of other schools have . said, lots of other schools have been _ said, lots of other schools have been refurbished. _ said, lots of other schools have been refurbished. over- said, lots of other schools have been refurbished. over the - said, lots of other schools have been refurbished. over the last said, lots of other schools have - been refurbished. over the last ten years— been refurbished. over the last ten years we _ been refurbished. over the last ten years we have _ been refurbished. over the last ten years we have seen _ been refurbished. over the last ten years we have seen 500 _ been refurbished. over the last ten years we have seen 500 schools i been refurbished. over the last ten . years we have seen 500 schools have had building — years we have seen 500 schools have had building work— years we have seen 500 schools have had building work done _ years we have seen 500 schools have had building work done to _ years we have seen 500 schools have had building work done to them, - had building work done to them,
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which _ had building work done to them, which is — had building work done to them, which is a — had building work done to them, which is a long—term _ had building work done to them, which is a long—term average. i had building work done to them, i which is a long—term average. over the next _ which is a long—term average. over the next ten — which is a long—term average. over the next ten years, _ which is a long—term average. over the next ten years, 500 _ which is a long—term average. over the next ten years, 500 schools - which is a long—term average. over| the next ten years, 500 schools will be the next ten years, 500 schools will he completed — the next ten years, 500 schools will be completed 50 _ the next ten years, 500 schools will be completed. 50 a _ the next ten years, 500 schools will be completed. 50 a year. _ the next ten years, 500 schools will be completed. 50 a year. that - the next ten years, 500 schools will be completed. 50 a year. that is- the next ten years, 500 schools will be completed. 50 a year. that is a i be completed. 50 a year. that is a long-term — be completed. 50 a year. that is a long—term average, _ be completed. 50 a year. that is a long—term average, that - be completed. 50 a year. that is a long—term average, that is - be completed. 50 a year. that is a long—term average, that is what . be completed. 50 a year. that is a l long—term average, that is what has been _ long—term average, that is what has been done — long—term average, that is what has been done we _ long—term average, that is what has been done. we have _ long—term average, that is what has been done. we have increased - long—term average, that is what has . been done. we have increased funding by 20%_ been done. we have increased funding by 20% over— been done. we have increased funding by 20% over this — been done. we have increased funding by 20% over this parliament. - been done. we have increased funding by 20% over this parliament. so - been done. we have increased funding by 20% over this parliament. so whati by 20% over this parliament. so what is happening — by 20% over this parliament. so what is happening 0r— by 20% over this parliament. so what is happening. or because _ by 20% over this parliament. so what is happening. or because i— by 20% over this parliament. so what is happening. or because i can't- is happening. or because i can't comment— is happening. or because i can't comment on— is happening. or because i can't comment on a _ is happening. or because i can't comment on a specific- is happening. or because i can'tl comment on a specific example, is happening. or because i can't- comment on a specific example, but the department— comment on a specific example, but the department for— comment on a specific example, but the department for education - comment on a specific example, but the department for education has i the department for education has heard _ the department for education has heard what— the department for education has heard what head _ the department for education has heard what head teachers - the department for education has heard what head teachers have i the department for education hasj heard what head teachers have to say. heard what head teachers have to sa , g ., ., ., heard what head teachers have to sa ., ., ., say. jonathan if you do, the next business secretary, _ say. jonathan if you do, the next business secretary, can - say. jonathan if you do, the next business secretary, can you - say. jonathan if you do, the next. business secretary, can you commit to rebuilding james' school? first to rebuilding james' school? first of all, to rebuilding james' school? first of all. let's _ to rebuilding james' school? first of all. let's pay — to rebuilding james' school? first of all, let's pay tribute _ to rebuilding james' school? f “st of all, let's pay tribute to mr saunders there. he of all, let's pay tribute to mr saunders there.— of all, let's pay tribute to mr saunders there. . , , ,. ., ., saunders there. he wants his school rebuilt. saunders there. he wants his school rebuilt- the — saunders there. he wants his school rebuilt. the element _ saunders there. he wants his school rebuilt. the element absolutely. - saunders there. he wants his school| rebuilt. the element absolutely. the simple truth is, schools are just the latest thing to crumble in tory britain. it wasn't about skills, it would be about the nhs... but i'm asking you about schools. all you commit to rebuilding as perhaps part of phase two of building schools for
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the future, or bsf as a gem saunders calls it, in order to rebuild his school in essex. i calls it, in order to rebuild his school in essex.— school in essex. i can't give a secific school in essex. i can't give a specific commitment - school in essex. i can't give a specific commitment to - school in essex. i can't give a specific commitment to one i school in essex. i can't give a - specific commitment to one school, the process has to be a bit more involved than that. but labour governments build schools. there are so many problems in this country about now, and talking to constituents over the summer, i think people are losing faith that the government consult problems, rather than create them. ijust said to people, look at the history. politics is ultimately down to decisions, priorities, and the situation we are talking about here todayis situation we are talking about here today is done specifically to the decision to cancel building schools for the future in 2010, and more recently decisions rishi sunak made as chancellor when he was given information that showed the scale of the challenge and what he had to do, and she didn't choose to do that. that's what they need to be a bit more involved than that. but labour governments build schools. there are so many problems in this country about now, and talking to
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constituents over the summer, i think people are losing faith that the government consult problems, rather than create them. ijust say to people, look at the history. politics is ultimately down to decisions, priorities, and the situation we are talking about here todayis situation we are talking about here today is done specifically to the decision to cancel building schools for the future in 2010, and more recently decisions rishi sunak made as chancellor when he was given information that showed the scale of the challenge and what he had to do, and she didn't choose to do that. that's what the debate in parliament is of course building should be safe, but buildings that tell our young people that we value them, they are of value... that young people that we value them, they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 _ they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 of _ they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 of our _ they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 of our skills. - they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 of our skills. it - they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 of our skills. it was i they are of value. .. that programme excluded 8096 of our skills. it was a | excluded 8096 of our skills. it was a secondary school _ excluded 8096 of our skills. it was a secondary school programme, - excluded 8096 of our skills. it was a secondary school programme, it. excluded 8096 of our skills. it was a i secondary school programme, it would have rebuilt every secondary school in this country by 2010. 50. have rebuilt every secondary school in this country by 2010.— in this country by 2010. so, would ou start in this country by 2010. so, would you start again? _ in this country by 2010. so, would you start again? obviously - in this country by 2010. so, would you start again? obviously the - you start again? obviously the baseline is _ you start again? obviously the baseline is what _ you start again? obviously the baseline is what the _ you start again? obviously the i baseline is what the government you start again? obviously the - baseline is what the government will be at the next election, but labour government are committed to state education and be a horrid side how much more resources will go into education. much more resources will go into education-— much more resources will go into education. , . , ., ., , ., ~ education. james, what do you think of what you — education. james, what do you think of what you have _ education. james, what do you think of what you have heard _ education. james, what do you think of what you have heard from - education. james, what do you think of what you have heard from both i of what you have heard from both politicians? fire of what you have heard from both politicians?—
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of what you have heard from both i politicians?_ not politicians? are you reassured? not reall , politicians? are you reassured? not really. no- — politicians? are you reassured? not really. no- l'm _ politicians? are you reassured? not really, no. i'm no _ politicians? are you reassured? not really, no. i'm no expert— politicians? are you reassured? not really, no. i'm no expert on - really, no. i'm no expert on politics. _ really, no. i'm no expert on politics. so— really, no. i'm no expert on politics, so an hour of my depth talking — politics, so an hour of my depth talking about politics with you all. but i _ talking about politics with you all. but i am — talking about politics with you all. but i am a — talking about politics with you all. but i am a bit more of an expert on education. — but i am a bit more of an expert on education. so— but i am a bit more of an expert on education, so hopefully you will listen _ education, so hopefully you will listen to— education, so hopefully you will listen to me more on that side. the problem _ listen to me more on that side. the problem is — listen to me more on that side. the problem is that we have got lots of competing — problem is that we have got lots of competing ideologies, we even have that in— competing ideologies, we even have that in the _ competing ideologies, we even have that in the education sector, you have _ that in the education sector, you have progressive traditionalists. but it _ have progressive traditionalists. but it is— have progressive traditionalists. but it is a — have progressive traditionalists. but it is a bit of everything all the time. _ but it is a bit of everything all the time, really. you have to take from _ the time, really. you have to take from both— the time, really. you have to take from both sides of the ideology spectrum. i think what we really need _ spectrum. i think what we really need to— spectrum. i think what we really need to do— spectrum. i think what we really need to do is take the politics out of education, otherwise we are going to get— of education, otherwise we are going to get short—term ideologies that keep changing every time. i think that's— keep changing every time. i think that's the — keep changing every time. i think that's the only way to sustain things— that's the only way to sustain things going forward, so that we can have an _ things going forward, so that we can have an agreement on what is going to happen _ have an agreement on what is going to happen to the fabric of school buildings. — to happen to the fabric of school buildings, notjust until the next point _ buildings, notjust until the next point when there is an election. but actually— point when there is an election. but actually long—term. i think it is the only— actually long—term. i think it is the only way we are going to make it work _ the only way we are going to make it work. ,., ., .~' the only way we are going to make it work. ,., ., a ,. ., ., work. good luck with the school, i ho -e ou work. good luck with the school, i hope you get _ work. good luck with the school, i hope you get your _ work. good luck with the school, i
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hope you get your pupils - work. good luck with the school, i hope you get your pupils back i hope you get your pupils back shortly in a few days, not weeks, as you fear. on the funding, jeremy hunt, the chancellor, and we are going to make it work. good luck with the school, i hope you get your pupils back shortly in a few days, not weeks, as you fear. on the funding, jeremy hunt, the chancellor, and reared rotate about the prime minister today in the chamber, that all the funding needed to get the 147 schools that have been this far affected will be provided. where is that money going to come from? is going to, resisting education budget? to to come from? is going to, resisting education budget?— to come from? is going to, resisting education budget? to be honest, that is a matter for— education budget? to be honest, that is a matter for the _ education budget? to be honest, that is a matter for the chancellor - is a matter for the chancellor chancellor. _ is a matter for the chancellor chancellor, not _ is a matter for the chancellor chancellor, not me. - is a matter for the chancellor chancellor, not me. i'm- is a matter for the chancellor chancellor, not me. i'm the i is a matter for the chancellor- chancellor, not me. i'm the business minister. _ chancellor, not me. i'm the business minister. not— chancellor, not me. i'm the business minister, not the _ chancellor, not me. i'm the business minister, not the chancellor. - chancellor, not me. i'm the business minister, not the chancellor. we i chancellor, not me. i'm the business minister, not the chancellor. we run| minister, not the chancellor. we run this country. — minister, not the chancellor. we run this country. we _ minister, not the chancellor. we run this country, we look— minister, not the chancellor. we run this country, we look after— minister, not the chancellor. we run this country, we look after the - this country, we look after the finances — this country, we look after the finances properly, _ this country, we look after the finances properly, the - this country, we look after the finances properly, the balance this country, we look after the i finances properly, the balance the books _ finances properly, the balance the books that's _ finances properly, the balance the books. that's what _ finances properly, the balance the books. that's what conservativesl finances properly, the balance the i books. that's what conservatives do. we have _ books. that's what conservatives do. we have been— books. that's what conservatives do. we have been through _ books. that's what conservatives do. we have been through a _ books. that's what conservatives do. we have been through a very- we have been through a very difficult — we have been through a very difficult time _ we have been through a very difficult time because - we have been through a very difficult time because of- we have been through a very. difficult time because of covid, we have been through a very- difficult time because of covid, the cost of— difficult time because of covid, the cost of living — difficult time because of covid, the cost of living crisis. _ difficult time because of covid, the cost of living crisis. we _ difficult time because of covid, the cost of living crisis. we have - difficult time because of covid, the cost of living crisis. we have had . cost of living crisis. we have had to free _ cost of living crisis. we have had to free hundreds _ cost of living crisis. we have had to free hundreds of— cost of living crisis. we have had to free hundreds of billions - cost of living crisis. we have had to free hundreds of billions of. to free hundreds of billions of pounds — to free hundreds of billions of pounds into— to free hundreds of billions of pounds into the _ to free hundreds of billions of pounds into the economy. i to free hundreds of billions of| pounds into the economy. but to free hundreds of billions of. pounds into the economy. but i absolutely _ pounds into the economy. but i absolutely jeremy _ pounds into the economy. but i absolutelyjeremy hunt- pounds into the economy. but i absolutelyjeremy hunt is - pounds into the economy. but i absolutelyjeremy hunt is the l pounds into the economy. but i. absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person— absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person to — absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person to make _ absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person to make sure _ absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person to make sure that - absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person to make sure that money. absolutelyjeremy hunt is the right person to make sure that money is spent _ person to make sure that money is spent wisely —
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person to make sure that money is spent wisely. but _ person to make sure that money is spent wisely-— person to make sure that money is sentwisel. �* , ., spent wisely. but you can understand a susicion spent wisely. but you can understand a suspicion of — spent wisely. but you can understand a suspicion of people _ spent wisely. but you can understand a suspicion of people when _ spent wisely. but you can understand a suspicion of people when they i spent wisely. but you can understand a suspicion of people when they hear| a suspicion of people when they hear commitments to providing money, it sounds as if there is some doubt that it could be new money. existing budgets are already under pressure. it would lead people to think that maybe we can't afford it? is that what your government is saying, that we can't afford to have safe schools? i we can't afford to have safe schools?— we can't afford to have safe schools? ., �* ~ ., , schools? i don't think that is riuht. schools? i don't think that is right- part — schools? i don't think that is right. part of _ schools? i don't think that is right. part of the _ schools? i don't think that is right. part of the five - schools? i don't think that is l right. part of the five priorities that the — right. part of the five priorities that the prime _ right. part of the five priorities that the prime minister- right. part of the five priorities that the prime minister set i right. part of the five priorities| that the prime minister set out right. part of the five priorities i that the prime minister set out is to bring _ that the prime minister set out is to bring that _ that the prime minister set out is to bring that down _ that the prime minister set out is to bring that down as _ that the prime minister set out is to bring that down as a _ that the prime minister set out isi to bring that down as a proportion of gdp. _ to bring that down as a proportion of gdp. which _ to bring that down as a proportion of gdp, which is _ to bring that down as a proportion of gdp, which is what _ to bring that down as a proportion of gdp, which is what is _ to bring that down as a proportion i of gdp, which is what is happening. that is— of gdp, which is what is happening. that is a _ of gdp, which is what is happening. that is a responsible _ of gdp, which is what is happening. that is a responsible approach i of gdp, which is what is happening. that is a responsible approach to i that is a responsible approach to take _ that is a responsible approach to take but — that is a responsible approach to take but of— that is a responsible approach to take. but of course _ that is a responsible approach to take. but of course there - that is a responsible approach to take. but of course there will- that is a responsible approach to take. but of course there will be| take. but of course there will be situations — take. but of course there will be situations like _ take. but of course there will be situations like this _ take. but of course there will be situations like this out _ take. but of course there will be situations like this out of - take. but of course there will be situations like this out of the i situations like this out of the blue. — situations like this out of the blue. where _ situations like this out of the blue, where we _ situations like this out of the blue, where we have - situations like this out of the - blue, where we have contingencies, where _ blue, where we have contingencies, where we _ blue, where we have contingencies, where we can— blue, where we have contingencies, where we can find _ blue, where we have contingencies, where we can find money, - blue, where we have contingencies, where we can find money, new- blue, where we have contingencies, . where we can find money, new money for money— where we can find money, new money for money for — where we can find money, new money for money for schools _ where we can find money, new money for money for schools for— where we can find money, new money for money for schools for rebuilding i for money for schools for rebuilding costs _ for money for schools for rebuilding costs or _ for money for schools for rebuilding costs or in — for money for schools for rebuilding costs or in the — for money for schools for rebuilding costs or in the temporary _ costs or in the temporary classrooms _ costs or in the temporary classrooms. as _ costs or in the temporary classrooms. as the - costs or in the temporary| classrooms. as the prime costs or in the temporary - classrooms. as the prime minister has committed _ classrooms. as the prime minister has committed to _ classrooms. as the prime minister has committed to do. _ classrooms. as the prime minister has committed to do. one - classrooms. as the prime minister has committed to do.— has committed to do. one of the issues is the _ has committed to do. one of the issues is the level _ has committed to do. one of the issues is the level of _ has committed to do. one of the issues is the level of investment | issues is the level of investment over the last 13 years since the
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coalition government. leicester showed this graft so our viewers can see it. education investment, look at the 2009 levels, up to £10 billion a year. going back down after the financial crash and the response by the coalition government. but look at the 23—24 projection. is it that part of the problem, a lack of investmentwhat rishi sunak is done in 2021, increased the budget by 21%, £2.6 billion a year. £15 increased the budget by 2196, £2.6 billion a year-— billion a year. £15 billion since 2015. billion a year. £15 billion since 2015- the _ billion a year. £15 billion since 2015. the same _ billion a year. £15 billion since 2015. the same number- billion a year. £15 billion since 2015. the same number of. billion a year. £15 billion since - 2015. the same number of schools... 0ver— 2015. the same number of schools... over the _ 2015. the same number of schools... over the next— 2015. the same number of schools... over the next ten _ 2015. the same number of schools... over the next ten years, _ 2015. the same number of schools... over the next ten years, 500 - over the next ten years, 500 schools — over the next ten years, 500 schools. there _ over the next ten years, 500 schools. there will— over the next ten years, 500 schools. there will be - over the next ten years, 500 schools. there will be no i over the next ten years, 500 schools. there will be no cut| over the next ten years, 500 . schools. there will be no cut to rebuilding _ schools. there will be no cut to rebuilding programme, - schools. there will be no cut to rebuilding programme, quite . schools. there will be no cut to - rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand — rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand that. _ rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand that. but— rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand that. but i— rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand that. but i am - rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand that. but i am going i rebuilding programme, quite rightly. i understand that. but i am going to| i understand that. but i am going to put tojonathan, will you commit to under a labour government that she
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had a few in the election that you will return to the real terms levels of investment of the last few years of investment of the last few years of the last labour government? that rah is a of the last labour government? trust graph is a graph of the last 13 years. short—term solutions, sticking plasters. will years. short-term solutions, sticking plasters.— years. short-term solutions, sticking plasters. will you go back to that 8 billion _ sticking plasters. will you go back to that 8 billion where _ sticking plasters. will you go back to that 8 billion where that - sticking plasters. will you go back to that 8 billion where that red i to that 8 billion where that red line is? i to that 8 billion where that red line is? .. ., , ., , to that 8 billion where that red line is? ., , ., , ., line is? i cannot promise that because the _ line is? i cannot promise that because the strength - line is? i cannot promise that because the strength of i line is? i cannot promise that because the strength of our l line is? i cannot promise that - because the strength of our economy has to be improved before you can make those decisions on public services. for people in this country right now their taxes are high, their services are poor, and at the heart of that is how the economy has performed over the last 13 years. our plan is to make the economy grow. no ways in the... we are not gone back to the financial crisis. the fact is, the economy grew faster, ladies were better, investment was better as a result of
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that. that is why my role as the shadow secretary of that for business is to encouragement that will make this economy grew faster, get back to the good days we had under labour. not have... it is get back to the good days we had under labour. not have... it is very laudable to — under labour. not have... it is very laudable to want _ under labour. not have... it is very laudable to want to _ under labour. not have. .. it is very laudable to want to grow— under labour. not have... it is very laudable to want to grow the - under labour. not have... it is very i laudable to want to grow the economy more quickly — laudable to want to grow the economy more quickly but— laudable to want to grow the economy more quickly. but be _ laudable to want to grow the economy more quickly. but be realistic, - laudable to want to grow the economy more quickly. but be realistic, our- more quickly. but be realistic, our economy— more quickly. but be realistic, our economy is— more quickly. but be realistic, our economy is the _ more quickly. but be realistic, our economy is the third _ more quickly. but be realistic, our economy is the third fastest - more quickly. but be realistic, our. economy is the third fastest growing economy— economy is the third fastest growing economy since — economy is the third fastest growing economy since 2010 _ economy is the third fastest growing economy since 2010 in _ economy is the third fastest growing economy since 2010 in the _ economy is the third fastest growing economy since 2010 in the g7. - economy is the third fastest growing economy since 2010 in the g7. onlyi economy since 2010 in the g7. only at the _ economy since 2010 in the g7. only at the canada — economy since 2010 in the g7. only at the canada and _ economy since 2010 in the g7. only at the canada and us— economy since 2010 in the g7. only at the canada and us have - economy since 2010 in the g7. only at the canada and us have grown i at the canada and us have grown faster~ _ at the canada and us have grown faster~ you — at the canada and us have grown faster. you cannot— at the canada and us have grown faster. you cannot have - at the canada and us have grown faster. you cannot have some i at the canada and us have grown i faster. you cannot have some magic wand _ faster. you cannot have some magic wand where — faster. you cannot have some magic wand where you _ faster. you cannot have some magic wand where you grow _ faster. you cannot have some magic wand where you grow the _ faster. you cannot have some magic wand where you grow the economy. faster. you cannot have some magic- wand where you grow the economy more quickly _ wand where you grow the economy more quickly this _ wand where you grow the economy more quickly this has — wand where you grow the economy more quickly this has a — wand where you grow the economy more quickly. this has a exceptionally- quickly. this has a exceptionally challenging _ quickly. this has a exceptionally challenging time. _ quickly. this has a exceptionally challenging time. our— quickly. this has a exceptionally challenging time. our economyl quickly. this has a exceptionally. challenging time. our economy has grown _ challenging time. our economy has grown at _ challenging time. our economy has grown at the — challenging time. our economy has grown at the 31st _ challenging time. our economy has grown at the 31st since _ challenging time. our economy has grown at the 31st since the - grown at the 31st since the pandemic _ grown at the 31st since the pandemic. you _ grown at the 31st since the pandemic. you cannot- grown at the 31st since the j pandemic. you cannot give grown at the 31st since the - pandemic. you cannot give people false _ pandemic. you cannot give people false hope — pandemic. you cannot give people false hope l”inv— pandemic. you cannot give people false hope-— false hope. i'm not giving them false hope. i'm not giving them false u, false hope. i'm not giving them false up. and — false hope. i'm not giving them false up, and giving _ false hope. i'm not giving them false up, and giving them i false hope. i'm not giving them i false up, and giving them specifics. if you take the period since you have gone to power, the economy you... since 2010, it has not performed well. real wages is... our
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real industrial strategy, making bricks at work, planning reform. it is a package in aggregate to improve the overall performance of business, investment and growth and wages and prosperity. we are not offering people false hope. fsine prosperity. we are not offering people false hope.— prosperity. we are not offering people false hope. one could set our not people false hope. one could set your not offering _ people false hope. one could set your not offering anything - your not offering anything different. listening to this argument, it is going to be rehearsed and we rehearse in the run—up to the election, which probably starts now. we are going of the party conferences fairly soon. but it is true that whatever jonathan benaud says for the labour party, they don't want to make any commitments at the moment to what they say is the mismanagement of the economy under 13 years of conservative government. how difficult is that going to be? is anyone listening to what the conservatives are saying and the first instance? or have theyjust move on to labour and then wondering what it is that a labour government would do differently. i what it is that a labour government would do differently.—
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would do differently. i don't think it is one or— would do differently. i don't think it is one or the _ would do differently. i don't think it is one or the either. _ would do differently. i don't think it is one or the either. both i would do differently. i don't think it is one or the either. both kevini it is one or the either. both kevin and john— it is one or the either. both kevin and john i'm _ it is one or the either. both kevin andjohn i'm sure it is one or the either. both kevin and john i'm sure would agree with this _ and john i'm sure would agree with this over— and john i'm sure would agree with this. overthe and john i'm sure would agree with this. over the road and john i'm sure would agree with this. overthe road in parliament people _ this. overthe road in parliament people think they conservatives have lost already, that people frankly aren't _ lost already, that people frankly aren't listening. that's actually problems— aren't listening. that's actually problems that we cover every on the programme — problems that we cover every on the programme it is going to be hard to -et programme it is going to be hard to get the _ programme it is going to be hard to get the upper foot back. but i'm not sure that _ get the upper foot back. but i'm not sure that is — get the upper foot back. but i'm not sure that is quite true. i think over— sure that is quite true. i think over the — sure that is quite true. i think over the next few months, the other question— over the next few months, the other question will will be asking every week, _ question will will be asking every week, if— question will will be asking every week, if there are problems, what do you do— week, if there are problems, what do you do to _ week, if there are problems, what do you do to fix — week, if there are problems, what do you do to fix them? i think that is labour's — you do to fix them? i think that is labour's big — you do to fix them? i think that is labour's big challenge right now, to at some _ labour's big challenge right now, to at some point move on from saying this is— at some point move on from saying this is the _ at some point move on from saying this is the big problem to this is how we — this is the big problem to this is how we would fix it. ijust wonder, johnny. _ how we would fix it. ijust wonder, johnny. are — how we would fix it. ijust wonder, johnny, are we going to start to see that in— johnny, are we going to start to see that in the _ johnny, are we going to start to see that in the two are a couple of weeks? — that in the two are a couple of weeks? 0r— that in the two are a couple of weeks? or is it something in the run-up_ weeks? or is it something in the run-up to — weeks? or is it something in the run—up to the general election, you continue _ run—up to the general election, you continue to— run—up to the general election, you continue to say the other lot have done _ continue to say the other lot have done a _ continue to say the other lot have done a bad — continue to say the other lot have done a bad job, continue to say the other lot have done a badjob, sojust continue to say the other lot have done a bad job, sojust give us a shot _ done a bad 'ob, so 'ust give us a shot. , ., ., . ., shot. there is not an inch of complacency _ shot. there is not an inch of complacency on _
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shot. there is not an inch of complacency on the - shot. there is not an inch of complacency on the labourl shot. there is not an inch of- complacency on the labour side. you will not find anyone on the shadow cabinet thinking any of it has been cast in the next election. j’ee cabinet thinking any of it has been cast in the next election. i've been s-ueakin cast in the next election. i've been speaking to _ cast in the next election. i've been speaking to shadow _ cast in the next election. i've been speaking to shadow cabinet - cast in the next election. i've been i speaking to shadow cabinet ministers who arem _ speaking to shadow cabinet ministers who are... , , ., , ., who are... they better not set out to me or who are. .. they better not set out to me or keir— who are... they better not set out to me or keir starmer, _ who are. .. they better not set out to me or keir starmer, i _ who are... they better not set out to me or keir starmer, i can - who are... they better not set out to me or keir starmer, i can tell. to me or keir starmer, i can tell you that. where there are major public service problems, we do say how we will raise the money. how we will scrap the non—dom regime for the super—rich, change the equity on private education as part of that. in relation to my agent and a treasury team, we do also have to put how we will see that the economy grew faster than it has done for the last 13 years. because if we don't see that, every single shout you do forum now on for years, the problems are evident. but forum now on for years, the problems are evident-— are evident. but how are you going to instill trust _ are evident. but how are you going to instill trust in _ are evident. but how are you going to instill trust in voters _ are evident. but how are you going to instill trust in voters than - are evident. but how are you going to instill trust in voters than the i to instill trust in voters than the other big story today on the headlines of papers is birmingham
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city council, the biggest council in britain, run by labour, has gone bankrupt?— bankrupt? thurrock, woking, northamptonshire... - bankrupt? thurrock, woking, northamptonshire. .. why - bankrupt? thurrock, woking, | northamptonshire. .. why has birmingham _ northamptonshire. .. why has birmingham under _ northamptonshire. .. why has birmingham under labour - northamptonshire. .. why has i birmingham under labour been mismanaged? that is what the critics are saying. it has gone bankrupt. there are issues around the equal pay claim in birmingham. the fact is, look at local government across england across the piece, whether it is labour, conservative, liberal, independent, they are in the same place. we can talk about local government, the nhs, criminal justice system, wherever you look at as failure, failure, failure... that is not a single public service in this country that works better today than when you came to power. let’s than when you came to power. let's have a look — than when you came to power. let's have a look at _ than when you came to power. let's have a look at these _ than when you came to power. let's have a look at these other _ than when you came to power. let's have a look at these other bankrupt councils. you can see that there is a fair sprinkling of conservative councils. this is not primarily a
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labour issue, although birmingham is the biggest authority in britain. they have had severe cuts over 13 years to local governments. should more funding be committed to these councils who have been served section 114 notices?— section 114 notices? specific problems. _ section 114 notices? specific problems, every _ section 114 notices? specific problems, every single - section 114 notices? specific - problems, every single situation around _ problems, every single situation around this _ problems, every single situation around this. keir— problems, every single situation around this. keir starmer- problems, every single situation around this. keir starmer this. around this. keir starmer this morning — around this. keir starmer this morning ptaying _ around this. keir starmer this morning playing budget- around this. keir starmer this morning playing budget cuts. around this. keir starmer thisi morning playing budget cuts in around this. keir starmer this- morning playing budget cuts in terms of bringing _ morning playing budget cuts in terms of bringing him~ _ morning playing budget cuts in terms of bringing him. but _ morning playing budget cuts in terms of bringing him. but labour's - morning playing budget cuts in terms of bringing him. but labour's own- of bringing him. but labour's own internal— of bringing him. but labour's own internal report _ of bringing him. but labour's own internal report has _ of bringing him. but labour's own internal report has called - of bringing him. but labour's own internal report has called out - internal report has called out dysfunctional, _ internal report has called out dysfunctional, misogynistic. i internal report has called out - dysfunctional, misogynistic. there are similar— dysfunctional, misogynistic. there are similar problems— dysfunctional, misogynistic. there are similar problems within - dysfunctional, misogynistic. there are similar problems within that. are similar problems within that councit~ — are similar problems within that council. ., ., , ., , , council. so, what has happened in thurrock which _ council. so, what has happened in thurrock which has _ council. so, what has happened in thurrock which has gone - thurrock which has gone bankruptnorthumberland and northamptonshire? i am bankruptnorthumberland and northamptonshire? lam not acquainted with the specifics around those councils, but clearly most councils do not go bust.- those councils, but clearly most councils do not go bust. these are challenging _ councils do not go bust. these are challenging times, _ councils do not go bust. these are challenging times, there - councils do not go bust. these are challenging times, there is - councils do not go bust. these are challenging times, there is no - councils do not go bust. these are l challenging times, there is no doubt about— challenging times, there is no doubt about it. _ challenging times, there is no doubt about it, particularly— challenging times, there is no doubt about it, particularly around - challenging times, there is no doubt about it, particularly around social. about it, particularly around social care _ about it, particularly around social care but — about it, particularly around social care but the _ about it, particularly around social care. but the reality— about it, particularly around social care. but the reality is, _ about it, particularly around social care. but the reality is, labour- care. but the reality is, labour
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always— care. but the reality is, labour always talked _ care. but the reality is, labour always talked a _ care. but the reality is, labour always talked a good - care. but the reality is, labour always talked a good game. i care. but the reality is, labour- always talked a good game. jonathan talked _ always talked a good game. jonathan talked about — always talked a good game. jonathan talked about stuff— always talked a good game. jonathan talked about stuff to _ always talked a good game. jonathan talked about stuff to do _ always talked a good game. jonathan talked about stuff to do with - talked about stuff to do with non-doms _ talked about stuff to do with non—doms, vat— talked about stuff to do with non—doms, vat on - talked about stuff to do with non—doms, vat on schools. | talked about stuff to do with - non—doms, vat on schools. their commitment _ non—doms, vat on schools. their commitment since _ non—doms, vat on schools. their commitment since keir— non—doms, vat on schools. their commitment since keir starmer. non—doms, vat on schools. their. commitment since keir starmer has been _ commitment since keir starmer has been in _ commitment since keir starmer has been in power— commitment since keir starmer has been in power amounts _ commitment since keir starmer has been in power amounts to- commitment since keir starmer has been in power amounts to around . commitment since keir starmer has . been in power amounts to around £100 billion— been in power amounts to around £100 billion of— been in power amounts to around £100 billion of annual— been in power amounts to around £100 billion of annual spending. _ been in power amounts to around £100 billion of annual spending. will- been in power amounts to around £100 billion of annual spending.— billion of annual spending. will you blame the labour _ billion of annual spending. will you blame the labour council _ billion of annual spending. will you blame the labour council there - billion of annual spending. will you blame the labour council there in l blame the labour council there in birmingham for mismanaging what has gone on? the difference between the conservatives and labour as we do confront problems in our own party. we are very tough and demanding the right standard or ripping sedation but we will have a labour rosette on and are elected as a labour candidate. but you cannot look at that and say anything other than there is a systematic problem in english, that is based on decisions... people may be aware that council tax you pay is on a small bar of budget authorities. the decisions you made have directly led to that picture. fin
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decisions you made have directly led to that picture-— to that picture. on that note, i'm auoin to to that picture. on that note, i'm going to thank — to that picture. on that note, i'm going to thank all _ to that picture. on that note, i'm going to thank all my _ to that picture. on that note, i'm going to thank all my guests - to that picture. on that note, i'm going to thank all my guests for. going to thank all my guests for joining me today on his first prime minister's questions after the new term. i'll be back tomorrow. bye—bye.
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today at one... the prime minister defends his record on schools with potentially dangerous concrete. it comes as the government publishes a full list of the schools in england affected by the problem — 147 of them. isn't he ashamed that after 13 years tory government, children are cowering under steel supports stopping their classroom roof falling in? this falling in? is exactly the kind of political this is exactly the kind of political opportunism... this is exactly the kind of political opportunism. .. exactly the kind of opportunism _ political opportunism. .. exactly the kind of opportunism that _ political opportunism. .. exactly the kind of opportunism that we - political opportunism. .. exactly the kind of opportunism that we have l kind of opportunism that we have come _ kind of opportunism that we have come to— kind of opportunism that we have come to expect from captain hindsight over here. we'll have the latest live from westminster. also this lunchtime... a new development in
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the case of sara sharif — the ten—year—old girl found dead in surrey: her father and step mother release a video message from pakistan. my main concern is that the pakistani police will torture or kill us. that is why we have gone into hiding. the air traffic control meltdown that left passengers stranded — claims the chances of it happening were one in fifteen million. and the sun is out, the water is full of people. summer is finally here and we have only had to wait until september. and coming up on bbc news. spain's women's world cup winning head coachjorge vilda says being sacked is unfair, after he was dismissed in the fallout from the luis rubiales scandal. good afternoon. the prime minister has defended his record on the issue of repairing schools with potentially dangerous concrete.
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in the commons in the last hour, labour leader sir keir starmer said

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