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is marine one landing on stop that is marine one landing on the lawn at winter. he will then be getting into the beast and making his way to windsor castle. it is such a lovely sight to see winter on a sunny day. it has been the family home of british kings and queens for almost a thousand years now and very much the centre of attention today because of this visit by president biden. let's go over to winter now. they are right on time, it seems? yes, and i would expect nothing else. the helicopters are so loud, even though they landed quite a distance from us we could hear them very clearly. president biden is there with his entourage. he has arrived at windsor castle. he will be moving into his limousine, the beast, and that will take into the gates of windsor castle, which are
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just behind me. there is a crowd gathering there. people who live in the town are pretty used to this, to be honest, but there is a crowd behind me gathering waiting to see president biden arrived. this is the first meeting between the two men since the king was crowned in may. president biden did attend queen elizabeth ii's funeral. the president did not attend the coronation, his wife tate. the two men will be meeting just behind me. it is a beautiful sunny day here. an amazing day to be in winter, it is gorgeous. they will be greeted by the welsh guards, you can see them on the screen there. the welsh guard band will be playing for president biden as ceremonial welcome for president biden and king charles. with me is our royal correspondent
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who is watching proceedings with me. talked me through the welsh guards. they have come back specially for this?— back specially for this? that's ri . ht, back specially for this? that's right. they — back specially for this? that's right. they had _ back specially for this? that's right, they had been - back specially for this? that's right, they had been in - back specially for this? that's l right, they had been in exercise back specially for this? that's - right, they had been in exercise in belize _ right, they had been in exercise in belize earlier on in the year. there barix _ belize earlier on in the year. there barix are _ belize earlier on in the year. there barix are here in winter. they came back_ barix are here in winter. they came back for— barix are here in winter. they came back for ceremonial duties, trooping the colour_ back for ceremonial duties, trooping the colour and taking part in the coronation — the colour and taking part in the coronation in may. today they get the top _ coronation in may. today they get the topjob in the quadrangle in the centre _ the topjob in the quadrangle in the centre of— the topjob in the quadrangle in the centre of windsor castle. where they are preparing to give the president as ceremonial welcome. a big ceremonial moment here for the president — ceremonial moment here for the president. it ceremonial moment here for the resident. , ,., . ,, president. it will bring back memories _ president. it will bring back memories of _ president. it will bring back memories of the _ president. it will bring back memories of the time - president. it will bring back| memories of the time when president. it will bring back- memories of the time when the president. it will bring back— memories of the time when the queen tried to steerformer
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memories of the time when the queen tried to steer former president trump in the right direction when doing an inspection.— trump in the right direction when doing an inspection. there were a few political _ doing an inspection. there were a few political issues _ doing an inspection. there were a few political issues of _ doing an inspection. there were a few political issues of that - doing an inspection. there were a few political issues of that one . few political issues of that one with the — few political issues of that one with the president standing in front of the _ with the president standing in front of the green. i don't think that will happen today. i think those men are very— will happen today. i think those men are very accustomed to this kind of ceremonial— are very accustomed to this kind of ceremonial event and will know where to stand. _ ceremonial event and will know where to stand, where to go. the welsh guards _ to stand, where to go. the welsh guards are — to stand, where to go. the welsh guards are properly been in place now for— guards are properly been in place now for a — guards are properly been in place now for a good hour or so making sure _ now for a good hour or so making sure everything looks absolutely perfect — sure everything looks absolutely perfect. we have seen the presidential entourage arrived here. ithink— presidential entourage arrived here. i think we _ presidential entourage arrived here. i think we can probably see the president— i think we can probably see the president himself coming in on one of these _ president himself coming in on one of these helicopters, it will land on the _ of these helicopters, it will land on the east lawn, marine one and we will see _ on the east lawn, marine one and we will see joe _ on the east lawn, marine one and we will see joe biden come out and head into the _ will see joe biden come out and head into the quote of the castle ready for that— into the quote of the castle ready for that ceremonial welcome. those
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helico ters for that ceremonial welcome. those helicopters earlier, _ for that ceremonial welcome. those helicopters earlier, does _ helicopters earlier, does helicopters earlier, does helicopters were at the pre—arrivals. helicopters were at the pre-arrivals._ helicopters were at the re-arrivals. ., ., , ., , pre-arrivals. there are always lots of bits to this, _ pre-arrivals. there are always lots of bits to this, but _ pre-arrivals. there are always lots of bits to this, but now _ pre-arrivals. there are always lots of bits to this, but now my - of bits to this, but now my understanding is we will see marine one landing on the east lawn. we can hear it— one landing on the east lawn. we can hear itiust _ one landing on the east lawn. we can hear itjust above one landing on the east lawn. we can hear it just above our heads. protocol— hear it just above our heads. protocol is— hear it just above our heads. protocol is so important with any royal occasion or royal visit or any visit by a head of state here in the uk. talk it through exactly what protocol means for the royal family and how it will unfold today. it matters because it is what we do. it is a ntatter— matters because it is what we do. it is a matter of global leadership and global— is a matter of global leadership and global show that the british royal family— global show that the british royal family can show. it makes offering a bit family can show. it makes offering a hit unique. — family can show. it makes offering a bit unique, which is why it has to be pitch— bit unique, which is why it has to be pitch perfect with the precision of the _ be pitch perfect with the precision of the troops, the music, the guard of the troops, the music, the guard of honour, — of the troops, the music, the guard of honour, all of that is a level of pomp— of honour, all of that is a level of pomp and — of honour, all of that is a level of pomp and pageantry that perhaps you don't see _ pomp and pageantry that perhaps you
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don't see on other presidential visits — don't see on other presidential visits. that is very much key to what _ visits. that is very much key to what the — visits. that is very much key to what the british royal family can offer— what the british royal family can offer a _ what the british royal family can offer a global leader.— offer a global leader. president biden was invited _ offer a global leader. president biden was invited by _ offer a global leader. president biden was invited by king - offer a global leader. president l biden was invited by king charles offer a global leader. president - biden was invited by king charles to come to the uk. this isn't a full state visits, though.— come to the uk. this isn't a full state visits, though. no, far from it. a full state _ state visits, though. no, far from it. a full state is _ state visits, though. no, far from it. a full state is -- _ state visits, though. no, far from it. a full state is -- a _ state visits, though. no, far from it. a full state is -- a state - state visits, though. no, far from it. a full state is -- a state visit l it. a full state is —— a state visit can— it. a full state is —— a state visit can last — it. a full state is —— a state visit can last up _ it. a full state is —— a state visit can last up to four days and is usually— can last up to four days and is usually centred in london with a state _ usually centred in london with a state banquet, as ceremonial arrivals— state banquet, as ceremonial arrivals on the mall in london. having — arrivals on the mall in london. having said that, it is a pretty decent — having said that, it is a pretty decent welcome you're getting here from the _ decent welcome you're getting here from the royal family. it is a full ceremonial welcome here, there will be a royal— ceremonial welcome here, there will be a royal salute offered to the president, you will hear the band of the welsh _ president, you will hear the band of the welsh guards playing the national anthem, and a military nrarch— national anthem, and a military march past, so all the trappings are there _ march past, so all the trappings are there it _ march past, so all the trappings are there it is — march past, so all the trappings are there. it isjust a more truncated visit~ _ there. it is 'ust a more truncated visit. �* . there. it is 'ust a more truncated visit. �* , visit. and there will be some food, itake visit. and there will be some food,
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i take it? we _ visit. and there will be some food, i take it? we are _ visit. and there will be some food, i take it? we are told _ visit. and there will be some food, i take it? we are told that - visit. and there will be some food, i take it? we are told that he - visit. and there will be some food, | i take it? we are told that he would take tea with _ i take it? we are told that he would take tea with the _ i take it? we are told that he would take tea with the king _ i take it? we are told that he would take tea with the king once - i take it? we are told that he would take tea with the king once they - take tea with the king once they leave _ take tea with the king once they leave the — take tea with the king once they leave the quadrangle. they will have some _ leave the quadrangle. they will have some private time, around 30 minutes or so. _ some private time, around 30 minutes or so. when— some private time, around 30 minutes or so, when they will take tea and have _ or so, when they will take tea and have some — or so, when they will take tea and have some time privately together. we are _ have some time privately together. we are hearing that rishi sunak's spokesman has confirmed that president biden and rishi sunak discussed cluster bomb munitions. there was some controversy that the us is sending ukraine cluster bombs. 128 countries, including the uk, have signed to a convention not to use cluster bombs. rishi sunak has held his commitment to that. i know that king charles in the past as prince charles perhaps would have become involved in some discussion such as these, but how did things change now that he is king? how different will this meeting we now
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with president biden? i different will this meeting we now with president biden?— with president biden? i think he have to tread _ with president biden? i think he have to tread carefully - with president biden? i think he. have to tread carefully differently now. _ have to tread carefully differently now. but — have to tread carefully differently now, but he was a prince for a very long _ now, but he was a prince for a very long time — now, but he was a prince for a very long time i— now, but he was a prince for a very long time. i don't think they will long time. idon't think they will privately— long time. i don't think they will privately steer away from the politics _ privately steer away from the politics. it is like the weekly audience _ politics. it is like the weekly audience that the king has with their— audience that the king has with their own — audience that the king has with their own prime minister. that is private. — their own prime minister. that is private, never up for discussion, a very— private, never up for discussion, a very private — private, never up for discussion, a very private space. in his time at the president here, there will be able to— the president here, there will be able to talk about what they like awav _ able to talk about what they like away from the cameras and all this pomp— away from the cameras and all this pomp in— away from the cameras and all this pomp in public view of things. it may well— pomp in public view of things. it may well be that ukraine is up for discussion — may well be that ukraine is up for discussion. the public political side _ discussion. the public political side of— discussion. the public political side of this visit is around the environment and climate change, that is the _ environment and climate change, that is the stuff— environment and climate change, that is the stuff we know that they definitely will be discussing. it is a sub'ect definitely will be discussing. it is a subject close _ definitely will be discussing. it is a subject close to _ definitely will be discussing. it 3 a subject close to both men's cards. president biden said to king charles, when he was prince charles,
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we need you badly and he praised his leadership on the subject. prince charles said you're very kind for saying that. we can see king charles now walking ahead. do we know who he is with? . . . , now walking ahead. do we know who he is with? ., , , , , is with? that is his equerry behind him there in _ is with? that is his equerry behind him there in the _ is with? that is his equerry behind him there in the kilt. _ is with? that is his equerry behind him there in the kilt. a _ is with? that is his equerry behind him there in the kilt. a key - is with? that is his equerry behind him there in the kilt. a key figure | him there in the kilt. a key figure that we _ him there in the kilt. a key figure that we have seen alongside him. we will see _ that we have seen alongside him. we will see the _ that we have seen alongside him. we will see the king now move up to the little stage _ will see the king now move up to the little stage that is there, where he will await — little stage that is there, where he will await the president. he will be accompanied by a number of military leaders _ accompanied by a number of military leaders from the welsh guards and also from _ leaders from the welsh guards and also from its own private office who have helped set up the engagement todav _ have helped set up the engagement todav it _ have helped set up the engagement today. it is very much about the king _ today. it is very much about the king and — today. it is very much about the king and the president. the optics today— king and the president. the optics today will— king and the president. the optics today will be very much about king charles _ today will be very much about king charles and president biden. gf charles and president biden. course, charles and president biden. of course, these pictures will be not only broadcast in the uk, but around the world. now we have the national
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anthem. god save the king.
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so just waiting now, sojust waiting now, after so just waiting now, after having heard the national anthem, for the arrival of the president.— arrival of the president. that's ri . ht, arrival of the president. that's right. we _ arrival of the president. that's right, we should _ arrival of the president. that's right, we should see - arrival of the president. that's right, we should see the - right, we should see the presidential motorcade enter the quadrangle of windsor castle. marine one has landed on the east lawn. it will be a short drive round the corner for the will be a short drive round the cornerfor the president to meet will be a short drive round the corner for the president to meet the king here at the centre of windsor castle. what is an equerry, it is sort of
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like a personal assistant. that would be to really undercut what he says, he is a key figure in terms of royal engagements, the planning of them, execution of them. if you look at the king's public engagement in recent months you will nearly always see him by his side. he is a very important figure within the royal household in terms of keeping the machine running. you can see from the way they are talking there is familiarity and a clear connection between him and the king. they work very closely together and he is a very closely together and he is a very important member of the royal household. late very important member of the royal household. ~ , ., very important member of the royal household. ~ ., ., household. we spoke earlier about the two men. _ household. we spoke earlier about the two men, the _ household. we spoke earlier about the two men, the king _ household. we spoke earlier about the two men, the king and - household. we spoke earlier about the two men, the king and the - the two men, the king and the president, and how they are quite similar in age, a similar vintage, you described it. i wonder whether that will in some ways have an impact on their relationship? it
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impact on their relationship? it perhaps means there is a natural understanding between them, their life experiences similar. the important thing, as well as their age, president biden is six years older than king charles, they have both lived their lives in the public eye, largely. king charles obviously is a member of the royal family, eye, largely. king charles obviously is a member of the royalfamily, as prince of wales was so much of his life, joe biden is a senior politician, for much of his life he has been involved in the public eye in us politics. they have both had a very long public life, which brings with it of course extensive experience, of understanding of the world, they are two men who have both have a long—standing interest in global politics, this and the environment and climate change, which will be on the agenda afternoon, and i think there is an understanding and a connection between them both. they are familiar with each other. in terms of when they formally met, today is the first meeting they will have had
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since the coronation of the king. they did meet in the aftermath of the king's mother, queen elizabeth ii. president biden and jill biden were overfour of the ii. president biden and jill biden were over four of the funeral of the queen in september and we note that joe biden met the king the night before the general then attended the funeral service itself. prior to that he metjoe biden twice in 2021 at the climate summit, and again at the climate summit in glasgow. there is a familiarity there. they will have met over the years perhaps more informally when he was prince of wales, that is whenjoe biden was as vice president. again they will know each other very well and i think that helps in terms of communication and understanding. i think we should see the motorcade shortly coming
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into the quad and windsor castle ready for the welsh guards to offer that ceremonial welcome to the american president. i think that is the motorcade that's is coming through. the motorcade that's is coming throu~h. . ., ., , ., through. yes, there are a number of cars coming — through. yes, there are a number of cars coming now- — through. yes, there are a number of cars coming now. the _ through. yes, there are a number of cars coming now. the number- through. yes, there are a number of cars coming now. the number of- cars coming now. the number of vehicles that formed the presidential motorcade. even here in the safety of windsor castle you still get all the security and trappings that come with it. i huge amounts of very tight security around here. as one would expect of around here. as one would expect of a presidential visit. around here. as one would expect of a presidentialvisit. i'm around here. as one would expect of a presidential visit. i'm assuming a sinister president arrives the welsh guards will play the us national anthem. . . guards will play the us national anthem. , ., ., , , anthem. yes, that will happen quite tuickl . anthem. yes, that will happen quite quickly- you — anthem. yes, that will happen quite quickly- you can _ anthem. yes, that will happen quite quickly. you can see _
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anthem. yes, that will happen quite quickly. you can see some - anthem. yes, that will happen quite quickly. you can see some staff- anthem. yes, that will happen quite | quickly. you can see some staff from the royal household and castle, as well as those travelling with the president already out there in the quad, full site, taking their own personal snaps. quad, full site, taking their own personalsnaps. it quad, full site, taking their own personal snaps. it is a very important moments. the king now stepping down, walking towards the car. a warm handshake. our hand on the
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elbow they are _ a warm handshake. our hand on the elbow they are of _ a warm handshake. our hand on the elbow they are of the _ a warm handshake. our hand on the elbow they are of the king _ a warm handshake. our hand on the elbow they are of the king from - a warm handshake. our hand on the elbow they are of the king from joel elbow they are of the king from joe biden. so the king and the president now move up to the diocese. we will then see the guard of honour formed by the welsh guards, who will give the royal salute to the president of the royal salute to the president of the united states here in the quadrangle of windsor castle. usa national anthem.
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what we are seeing here now is the officer commanding the guard of honour inviting the president to come down and inspect the guard of honour of the welsh guards there within the quad, on the parade square of windsor castle. you can see the two men coming off the diocese there, the major of the welsh guards will now sleep both men to the front row of the guard of honour. there will be a formal inspection of the trips by king charles and presidentjoe biden.
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there is an immense sense of choreography with these events. these events very rarely go wrong, they are practised within an inch of their life. these guards know exactly what they�* re their life. these guards know exactly what they're doing here. they will have been rehearsing this again and again, for the ceremonial part their duties. major alex major leads the king and the president along the front row thereof the guard of honour, formed by the prince of wales company, the welsh guards, here in the quad of windsor castle.
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when this elements of the visit has been complete, the two men will return to the diocese, to the small stage there overlooking the trips and they will watch a military march past, so an extra element of the show being put on by the american visitors here today. the show being put on by the american visitors here today.— visitors here today. the show, daniela, visitors here today. the show, daniela. is _ visitors here today. the show, daniela, is as _ visitors here today. the show, daniela, is as much _ visitors here today. the show, daniela, is as much for- visitors here today. the show, daniela, is as much for the - visitors here today. the show, daniela, is as much for the uk audience as the us audience. in america this kind of pageantry, this kind of ceremony is adored, isn't it? they are fascinated by it. yes. it? they are fascinated by it. yes, i think it is _ it? they are fascinated by it. yes, i think it is what _ it? they are fascinated by it. yes, i think it is what engages - it? they are fascinated by it. yes i think it is what engages audiences in the uk royalfamily i think it is what engages audiences in the uk royal family globally. there is an expectation that they will see it, which is whyjoe biden would not be arriving here and just being driven into the castle gates and not to be seen again. this is
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part of the set piece choreography of the royal welcome, and that is what the president is being given today. the two men chatting as they walk through the quad. titer;r today. the two men chatting as they walk through the quad.— walk through the quad. they seem ve at walk through the quad. they seem very at ease _ walk through the quad. they seem very at ease with _ walk through the quad. they seem very at ease with each _ walk through the quad. they seem very at ease with each other. - walk through the quad. they seem very at ease with each other. they| very at ease with each other. they have known _ very at ease with each other. they have known each _ very at ease with each other. they have known each other _ very at ease with each other. they have known each other a - very at ease with each other. tie: have known each other a long time, day or two men of a similar age, similar understanding, and there is an informality between them that is on show here as they laugh and chat and go up onto the diocese, where they will now watch the military march past. they will now watch the military march past-— march past. we'll take it to sit down, march past. we'll take it to sit down. or— march past. we'll take it to sit down, or will— march past. we'll take it to sit down, or will they _ march past. we'll take it to sit down, or will they stand? - march past. we'll take it to sit down, or will they stand? no, | march past. we'll take it to sit - down, or will they stand? no, they will be standing. _
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tell me a little bit about the welsh guards. where have these soldiers been up until now? titer;r guards. where have these soldiers been up until now?— guards. where have these soldiers been up until now? they have been on a “uncle been up until now? they have been on a jungle exercise _ been up until now? they have been on a jungle exercise in _ been up until now? they have been on a jungle exercise in jamaica _ been up until now? they have been on a jungle exercise in jamaica and - a jungle exercise injamaica and belize earlier on in the year. that is what many of them are doing. they are based here in windsor, the welsh guards. they return to ceremonial dutyjust before the coronation, so we saw them involved in some of the p°mp we saw them involved in some of the pomp and pageantry around the kingcoronation. they also tripped the colour on the king's they were
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enjoyed involved as a key element of that day. the job they had been given here, welcoming the us president, as we watch the march past here, is a key day for them, and one of immense pride i imagine for two soldiers out on parade today in the quad in windsor, to lead this as a welsh guardsman for the american president is quite a memorable moment for them. and american president is quite a memorable moment for them. and a beautiful day — memorable moment for them. and a beautiful day to _ memorable moment for them. and a beautiful day to do _ memorable moment for them. and a beautiful day to do it, _ memorable moment for them. and a beautiful day to do it, daniela. - beautiful day to do it, daniela. they have lucked out with the weather, it is not true one. we saw in some ceremonial events earlier in the year where the heat under the bearskins was difficult for the soldiers. it is warm, dry, and just the right kind of weather for this kind of event. an immensely proud day for the welsh guards as they complete the final part of the ceremony.
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complete the final part of the ceremony-— complete the final part of the ceremon . ., ~ ., , ., , ceremony. talk me through the plans for the day- — ceremony. talk me through the plans for the day. after _ ceremony. talk me through the plans for the day. after the _ ceremony. talk me through the plans for the day. after the ceremony - for the day. after the ceremony ends, what are the two men going to get up to after this? titer;r ends, what are the two men going to get up to after this?— get up to after this? they will go for a private _ get up to after this? they will go for a private tea. _ get up to after this? they will go for a private tea. sconce - get up to after this? they will go for a private tea. sconce are - get up to after this? they will go for a private tea. sconce are no i for a private tea. sconce are no sconce? you would think so, wouldn't you! they will have a tea here within windsor castle, about 30 minutes together, which will be the more private elements of this visit. they will then go to the white drawing room of windsor castle, whether us presidents... they will go and visit elements of the royal collection in the white drawing—room that have an american connection. the king will show the president some items from the royal archives that have an american link. they will then go to the green drawing
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room here in windsor castle where they willjoin participants of room here in windsor castle where they will join participants of the climb and finance mobilisation form, which was a meeting that took place here at windsor castle earlier today, bringing togetherfinancial today, bringing together financial and today, bringing togetherfinancial and philanthropic leaders from both the uk and usa looking at how they can solve and commit to solutions around climate action in emerging markets and developing countries. that meeting has happened already and the king and the president will be briefed on the outcomes of that meeting when they have the last element of their day to day in the green drawing—room of windsor castle. we can seejohn kerry there in the background, a key figure in terms of the us policy towards climate change and tackling climate change globally. the two men will meetjohn kerry, the president, and
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the king, who took part in that earlier. , ., , earlier. john kerry there in the background — earlier. john kerry there in the background. i— earlier. john kerry there in the background. i was _ earlier. john kerry there in the background. i was talking - earlier. john kerry there in the background. i was talking to i earlier. john kerry there in the | background. i was talking to an expert a few days ago in us— uk relations and politics and said that president biden has a strong sense of respect for formality, for ceremony. i guess it will be enjoying this. ceremony. i guess it will be enjoying this-— ceremony. i guess it will be enjoying this. yes, i think he definitely — enjoying this. yes, i think he definitely will _ enjoying this. yes, i think he definitely will be _ enjoying this. yes, i think he definitely will be enjoying . enjoying this. yes, i think he l definitely will be enjoying this, enjoying this. yes, i think he - definitely will be enjoying this, he will have enjoyed that pomp and pageantry of the ceremonial welcome. they climb now into the southern entrance of windsor castle where they will go for their private tea. as you say, joe biden has seen many ceremonial welcomes during his political life and what is offered here will probably feel quite
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special and he will be appreciative of the show laid on for his arrival here today. of the show laid on for his arrival here today-— here today. so, the white drawing-room, _ here today. so, the white drawing-room, then - here today. so, the white drawing-room, then the l here today. so, the white - drawing-room, then the green drawing—room, then the green drawing—room, then the green drawing—room, then the green drawing—room, then after thatjoe biden leaves the uk and heads off to nato, the conference in lithuania. it is interesting to think that he chose london, rishi sunak, king charles to come to on his way to lithuania. that says a lot about where his priorities are.- lithuania. that says a lot about where his priorities are. there had been an invitation _ where his priorities are. there had been an invitation offered - where his priorities are. there had been an invitation offered by - where his priorities are. there had been an invitation offered by king| been an invitation offered by king charles forjoe biden to return to the uk. he did not come for the king's coronation, there was a bit of discussion about that. there was a lot of discussion at the time about whether that was a snub in any way, but the protocol is that american presidents don't come for the coronation. i
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american presidents don't come for the coronation.— the coronation. i was reading up esterda the coronation. i was reading up yesterday that — the coronation. i was reading up yesterday that president - the coronation. i was reading up - yesterday that president eisenhower didn't come to the queen's coronation, so it is tradition. the queen coronation, so it is tradition. ti2 queen subsequently had a very good relationship with pricing —— president eisenhower. he was the very first president that king charles metz, he was just ten years old. just because it didn't come to the coronation doesn't mean that you can forge a good working relationship.— can forge a good working relationshi. . ~' , ., relationship. thank you. so, president — relationship. thank you. so, president biden _ relationship. thank you. so, president biden and - relationship. thank you. so, president biden and king . relationship. thank you. so, - president biden and king charles, are they sipping tea, talk on climate change? we don't know. we will analyse the meeting of those two men throughout the day here on bbc news. stay with us here on the bbc.
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